Books that explain women?

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Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:18:32 2019 No.14246175 [Reply] [Original]

Books that explain women?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:21:37 2019 No.14246180 File: 791 KB, 2294x751, weininger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:25:38 2019 No.14246192 schopie - of women

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:26:11 2019 No.14246194 How do I read books about woman posted in past threads and in this one and not become mysoginistic

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:28:13 2019 No.14246199 >>14246194 Women are a reflection of yourself. So, get to the point where you love yourself and you'll love the women around you as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:31:20 2019 No.14246209 >>14246194 >No men who really think deeply about women retain a high opinion of them; men either despise women or they have never thought seriously about them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:31:50 2019 No.14246213 >>14246199 I`m an incel tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:33:23 2019 No.14246217 >the diary of a Lepidoptera, desoo

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:34:07 2019 No.14246220 >Have a gf >still hate women Am I just an internal incel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:34:38 2019 No.14246222 File: 63 KB, 850x400, quote-again-the-male-is-by-nature-superior-and-the-female-inferior-and-the-one-rules-and-the-aristotle-119-87-68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246194

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:35:29 2019 No.14246229 >>14246220 Same lol. She actually made me hate women even more

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:37:58 2019 No.14246236 I just want a pretty woman to take care of me :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:39:04 2019 No.14246239 >>14246209 Precisely >>14246220 >>14246229 lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:39:35 2019 No.14246241 >>14246220 Are you me?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:40:24 2019 No.14246245

>>14246220
you may be having troubles reconciling the inherent differences between the sexes
>why would you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree?
you may not consciously speak it, but subconsciously you know theres validity to the often told joke
>men are from mars, whamen are from venus
it dwells within you, like your countless other thoughts and feelings, unable to be articulated in a crystallized fashion

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:45:11 2019 No.14246260 >>14246220 this was me before i got older and found someone i actually liked and didn't THINK i liked

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:50:53 2019 No.14246280 >>14246175 Wtf are those red spots on her knees? Please don't tell me because she kneel on wooden floor and sucked some guy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:52:01 2019 No.14246286 >>14246213 Time for some 12 rules for life

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:03:53 2019 No.14246332 >>14246313 Ayy omlao

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:08:18 2019 No.14246341 File: 119 KB, 200x313, Sachar_-_Holes_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246175

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:12:58 2019 No.14246357 >>14246180 holy shit this is redpilled as fuck gotta read that and it seems to hold true since in the wake of the sexual freedom women literally live for sex they live for the weekend for their ballads and then have casual sex

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:13:24 2019 No.14246360 lolita

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:17:59 2019 No.14246378 >>14246180 FPBP. based weiningerbro

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:23:37 2019 No.14246399

The current idea being pushed by our intellectual betters is that watching pornography increases empathy and respect for women, but I fail to see how watching endless hordes of women allowing themselves to be objectified into living cocksleeve cum depositories is supposed to make me view them as anything other than subhuman filth.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:48:07 2019 No.14246507

you cant understand a part without grasping the whole in which it effectively exists.

you wont understand 'women' without understanding their role and place within the wider whole composed by the specific human group of which they are a part.

to put it simply, you can only understand a single part by grasping how the whole stands together (each part is only allowed to exists insofar as it is useful in that wider task.)

women or men dont exist as anything other than a role played (after being learned) to maintain together the group they constitute though an endless cycle of ritual interactions.

short answer: learn how societies work and you'll instantly understand its components.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:55:35 2019 No.14246532 >>14246507 >women or men dont exist as anything other than a role played fuck off trannie

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:55:53 2019 No.14246533 >>14246399 Welcome to clown world

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:59:53 2019 No.14246545 >>14246507 >societies are the whole Everything truly is relative but societies are only a part of this too. OP should dedicate himself to understanding the whole, God and the nature of being.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:03:00 2019 No.14246557 >>14246175 The Holy Quran

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:05:28 2019 No.14246564 >>14246341 these words are written inside my mind: if only if only the woodpecker sighed that the bark on the tree was just a little bit softer while the wolf waits below hungry and lonley crying to the moon if only if only

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:07:22 2019 No.14246569 >>14246557 based

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:12:04 2019 No.14246582

>>14246357
No. This is a classic example of a man projecting himself onto the Other. He says that Man is partly sexual, partly interested in other things, the the book he is currently writing lol He then says that the Other, woman, is totally sexually. He is speaking for who he is if he wasnt writing such things. Sexuality is a part of life, a part for everyone, except for this man and others who agree with him. As for what you have said the same can be said for men. Freedom provides for us to indulge in classic literature as well as binge eating. The hatred people feel for people who over indulge is from envy and ignorance. For if you indulged as they do in your baser desires you would no longer see them as other but similar to yourself and even as part of you and therefore no longer envy. But you would also relieve yourself of the ignorance that such a life is enviable. For anyone who has been through that brothel of human desire will tell you, its absolute hell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:15:16 2019 No.14246600 >>14246399 >The current idea being pushed by our intellectual betters is that watching pornography increases empathy and respect for women nobody is saying this

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:23:45 2019 No.14246630 >>14246582 Did you even read, he said man is part sexual and part beyond, while women are fully sexual.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:27:08 2019 No.14246648 File: 408 KB, 1715x2500, Catherine-Zeta-Jones-sexy-pics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246175 WOMEN - C. BUKOWSKI

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:33:20 2019 No.14246678 >>14246175 Who is she and tell me why her knees are sore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:34:14 2019 No.14246679 File: 65 KB, 610x470, porn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246600 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201611/6-ways-develop-sexual-integrity

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:34:28 2019 No.14246682 >>14246180 based weininger poster

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:39:33 2019 No.14246702 >>14246209 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:40:36 2019 No.14246711 >>14246220 FUCK THIS

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:43:26 2019 No.14246722

>>14246582
>The hatred people feel for people who over indulge is from envy and ignorance. For if you indulged as they do in your baser desires you would no longer see them as other but similar to yourself and even as part of you and therefore no longer envy.
This is the liberal mentality of trying to justify their vices projecting them into others as a good thing (for you will never be able to accept the blame for being a whore or a landwhale). Even when I partook in promiscuous sex I always felt ashamed the next day. It's not healthy to feel that resentment or yours, chap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:44:51 2019 No.14246726 File: 41 KB, 185x185, Rhea_Portrait_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246175 Mark Manson - Models unironically head up kings

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:46:22 2019 No.14246733 >>14246582 >The hatred people feel for people who over indulge is from envy and ignorance. What about hatred from people who are reformed? I suppose they have not lost the knowledge that such a life is not enviable?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:49:05 2019 No.14246742 Jordan Peterson lectures

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:52:01 2019 No.14246753 >>14246199 Well put. Never thought of it this way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:55:30 2019 No.14246769 >>14246175 Hey there fellow book readers, remember to give this post a (you) if you think OPs with the word "women" in them should be automatically deleted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:58:32 2019 No.14246784 >>14246564 >that the bark on the tree was just a little bit softer This line is wrong but I don’t remember what the right one is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:58:48 2019 No.14246785 >>14246545 >God and the nature of being lel, you serious? thats not even refutable... god is a social tool and its only meaning is the shared practices it allows to establish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:05:29 2019 No.14246812 >>14246769 If I can't talk shit about women here, where do you expect me to do it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:06:40 2019 No.14246817 >>14246812 down the pub like every other man

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:08:29 2019 No.14246826 File: 211 KB, 1200x914, 1572302739486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246785 >lel >followed by fedora tipping

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:17:43 2019 No.14246867 >>14246785 I was ignorance once too, my brother

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:24:17 2019 No.14246891 >>14246582 Did you read this over before you posted it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:27:29 2019 No.14246906 >>14246175 Previously on /lit/: >>>/lit/thread/S13921664#p13924448

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:36:36 2019 No.14246935 >>14246175 I feel the urge to kill women. I hate them and I want to see them die.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:38:52 2019 No.14246945 >>14246236 I want to stab one and stomp on their head. I want to beat them with an axe until you can't even recognize the remains.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:41:08 2019 No.14246954 I'd love to see that worthless, putrid idiot alba's face when she realizes I habe no interest in her and her MISERABLE fucking life is over. I would torture her nearly to death and revive her just to do it all over again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:43:28 2019 No.14246962 Why is neofeminism the best ideology?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:48:12 2019 No.14246985 >>14246175 Bank accounts records, the graphs that track what happens after when women get the vote, the Bible, the Quaran. This are the top ones.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:48:17 2019 No.14246986

>>14246180
There is a glaring gap in this argument. If the reason for woman’s greater absorption into sexual matters is their biological role in reproduction, then what is there to say about women once they do in fact reproduce? Will she remain as sexual once she is mother? It is obvious that if her role as birth giver is so biologically important then it would be this role that would predominate in her character, and not the precipitating role of sexual agent. If the role of birth giver is the determining factor in female character, then sexuality is only a means, not an end. Also, women’s passive role in sexuality means that there is no rational reason to be preocuppied with their own sexuality, which would be satisfied with little intervention on their part. Men’s sexuality is far more active (just look at which sex is empirically more likely to masturbate, and rape); it is a greater determinant in the psychical life of men than it is for women. The greater non sexual activity of men can be interpreted, as a byproduct of the general higher activity levels men need in order to reproduce, or as redistribution of sexual energy (if we go the psychoanalytic route).

in short, Werninger is an incel.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 11:56:36 2019 No.14247023

>>14246180
>Men fear and hate puberty, women enjoy desire it
How the fuck could someone be so legitimately retarded. 95% of female trannies (that's women who want to be men you degenerates) do so because the onset of puberty traumatically exploded their self-image/crippled their self-esteem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 12:03:24 2019 No.14247050 >>14246935 basis et rubrumpastillus

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 12:08:47 2019 No.14247066 >>14246175 Animal Farm

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 12:18:30 2019 No.14247096
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>>14246220
Me too man. Had three girlfriends, all pretty normal girls. Hate women with a burning passion, moreso from knowing them well. 'Have sex incel' is always just impotent and baseless screeching. Incels worship women in their own twisted way. They hate them because they can't fuck them. I just hate them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 12:22:56 2019 No.14247121 File: 11 KB, 230x328, 1479275941766.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246220 >have gf >she hates women too

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:12:40 2019 No.14247373 >>14247023 Trannies have a mental illness. They’re the exception, not the rule.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:16:04 2019 No.14247396

>>14246986
>Also, women’s passive role in sexuality means that there is no rational reason to be preocuppied with their own sexuality

Yes because as Werninger mentioned, women are sex; moreover they lack the awareness that comes from duality so they're not actively preoccupied by sex, though they're passively influenced by it at all times.

>If the role of birth giver is the determining factor in female character, then sexuality is only a means, not an end

Indeed, though this doesn't mean that sexuality stops after birth. It's a process, not a binary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:16:24 2019 No.14247400 >>14247023 It's almost like they are mentally ill or something...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:18:29 2019 No.14247411 >>14247121 Based if true

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:24:12 2019 No.14247439 >>14247400 All trannies have autism, but for the female ones it's overwhelmingly caused by depression/anxiety related to self image. The males, who are overwhelmingly plain fetishists of the AGP-NPD variety, I have no pity for.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:27:56 2019 No.14247459

>>14247396
>moreover they lack the awareness that comes from duality so they're not actively preoccupied by sex

But women obviously have awareness of their sexuality. They know when they are horny, when they find someone attractive, they struggle with the sexual impulse as man do, yet they have other aspirations and necessities; sexuality is just one other factor . Werninger is writing at a time when the sexual instinct was culturally repressed amd subsequently underdeveloped in women. Now, women struggle with all the same sexual issues that men do, of course, with their own characteristic coloring derived from the differences between the sexes. The one who can’t determine women’s duality here is the incel who only thinks of women in sexual contexes.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Wed Nov 27 13:28:01 2019 No.14247460 >>14246175 >sucks so much dick her knees are scarred Well that should be enough discerning for one day, no?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:29:24 2019 No.14247468 >>14247459 Stick to your discord, tranny. If it makes you feel any better, even though you will never be a woman, your thinking is shallow, like a woman's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:34:27 2019 No.14247487 >>14247468 You’re incapable of meeting an objection with a rational argument. You’re brain is crippled by all that cooming and ressentiment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:35:31 2019 No.14247496 >>14247487 nah he's right you're pretty dumb and your post is just pussy defense force in action cringe bro downvoted

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:36:02 2019 No.14247498 File: 15 KB, 397x116, iirrti.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247487 >You’re brain is crippled

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:44:07 2019 No.14247539 >>14246175 How do i avoid picking gf who's an ex chad cumdump?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:48:57 2019 No.14247565

>>14247496
>>14247498
>0 arguments or points offered
You both know that irl you neither have the balls nor the ability to argue your position. You rely on the comfort of anonimity and memes. Pathetic beta makes justifying their lack of success in the sexual sphere, how does it feel to be both too ugly to fuck and too dumb to properly rationalize it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:50:22 2019 No.14247573 >>14247539 Not in Europe or America, buddy

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:51:08 2019 No.14247577 >>14247539 celibacy

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:51:41 2019 No.14247581

>>14247539
Get them while you're young or it can't be helped. You literally can't avoid sluts anymore. The biggest and most common cuck move made by young slut-conscious men who are still naive about the real depth of the slut problem is in thinking that they can detect which girls are "different." "This one's different, man!" is what a soon to be cuck says to his friend while they play video games together on Steam, because he just met some stupid bitch through college or he finally lucked out in getting a single match on Tinder who wasn't fat and progressing beyond the first date. But little does he know she's not different. There is literally no trait in a college-aged woman that is a reliable barometer for chastity. The studious ones, the shy ones, the ones who seem too well-bred and poshly raised to whore themselves out, the ones who have nerdy hobbies, the ones who have dainty girl hobbies, the ones who seem to be rare genuine introverts and not to place a high value on sexual attentions from men. All these women and more, when you dig just a little bit beneath the surface, have a 99.5% chance of revealing to you that they at least somewhat regularly suck cum or went through a cum sucking phase. They then have a 60% chance of revealing that they don't see any problem with this whatsoever, and they think it's completely indifferent to a man whether they "only used Tinder for hookups for my freshman year" or "oh I only did that in college." The remaining 40% is even more insidious because they at least have some awareness that men don't like visualizing their pussy hole as a battered war-torn artillery crater in Flanders in 1917, so they will hide it from you, or become standoffish and hyperdefensive if they sense that you are bothered by it.

Sluts have become the overwhelming norm. All women in college have casual hookups unless they are terrifyingly ugly. Fat ones, smart ones, stupid ones, basic ones, nice ones, depressed ones, rich ones, poor ones, and especially, most of all, that one you think is "different" and unusually deep for a girl. As soon as you start to fall for some college girl, reality check yourself by realizing she is going to make you work for what she gave away for free to Chad.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:52:41 2019 No.14247587

>>14247539
virtually any girl who is attractive with a warm personality has been run through at least twice. you're either going to have to get over it, marry an autistic girl who says words like "poop" out loud and will go into a conniption when you try to undress her, or find the one-in-a-million teen church girl who is feminine in every way and yet will somehow manage to save her virginity until midway through college.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:53:13 2019 No.14247591 >>14247539 >how do I avoid a girl who knows how to sit on her hands and beg for cum I don't know haha

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:53:42 2019 No.14247594 >>14247581 dangerously redpilled

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:54:26 2019 No.14247598 File: 2.66 MB, 300x169, dog_wew.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247587 >>14247581 FUCK why can't I just find a decent girl that hasn't had a cock to marry?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:55:10 2019 No.14247601 File: 35 KB, 300x353, 1551738679211.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247587 >autistic girl who says words like "poop" out loud and will go into a conniption when you try to undress her

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:55:39 2019 No.14247607

>>14247565
First of all, nice insults. Really practicing what you're preaching, eh? lmao

Second, you want an argument? Women's sexuality was never "repressed," that's just a conjecture. If it was and women are now "free" from that, explain why 50 Shades of Grey is the best selling book ever among women? Explain why even now every field in STEM or philosophy is dominated by men, and women who don't go on to be housewives become unhappy? This has all been well documented.

In other words, stop playing the male feminist card. You're on 4chan you fucking idiot. You won't be getting pussy anymore than anyone else on this board. If anything, the more sexist the man is the more likely he is to score some.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:56:23 2019 No.14247610
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>>14247581
>The remaining 40% is even more insidious because they at least have some awareness that men don't like visualizing their pussy hole as a battered war-torn artillery crater in Flanders in 1917

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:57:22 2019 No.14247612 >>14246222 Aristotle smelled like shit therefore his opininon is invalid. He should consider a shower

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:58:24 2019 No.14247619 >>14246222 ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:58:29 2019 No.14247620 >>14246199 very wrong, I love myself but I hate women and I've had 2 gfs

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:58:42 2019 No.14247623

>>14247581
>As soon as you start to fall for some college girl, reality check yourself by realizing she is going to make you work for what she gave away for free to Chad.
Man, this shit hits me the most. I can only imagine finding a late 20s girl that likes "me" (most likely my solid job, house, and vehicle) and she makes me jump through 50 hoops just to go on a dinner date. Why the fuck do I have to do all that work when she has had casual hookups with multiple attractive men in the past? Why didn't she just marry them? Fuck you Chad, marry your dumpsters. Chad is as much to blame as them.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:03:02 2019 No.14247647

>>14247581

This is the mind of the incel. So lustful, so depraved, so sinful and low, that he can’t imagine anything else being the case except his own depravities. In his eyes, there is only sex. Sex is the value of all things, because it is by it (or lack thereof) that his own self-worth derives from. He’s been watching porn and jerking it since he was very young, yet thinks he is some paragon innocemce and moral upstanding because of his virginity. He craves sexual pleasure so much he can’t imagine any other kind kf pleasure as real. The few other pleasures he enjoys are substitutes, and therefore he imagines this to be true fkr everyone else.
>they at least somewhat regularly suck cum or went through a cum sucking phase.
It’s so obvious how much you want this. Porn has glorified this to you so much that you really think it’s some ultimate deviant pleasure. You wanna know why girls (and most men) don’t think higgly of this? Because they’ve done (or had it done to them) and it did fuck all for a second. Once you have sex (if you ever do), you’ll realize how short-soghted your worldview is. Sex is only one among many pleasures, and cannot satisfy a individual totally, or define their worth.

The typical unhappy man is one who, having been deprived in youth of some normal satisfaction, has come to value this one kind of satisfaction more than any other, and has therefore given to his life a one-sided direction, together with a quite undue emphasis upon the achievement as opposed to the activities connected with it” -Betrand Russell

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:03:41 2019 No.14247651

>>14247598
Despite what the studies try and make you believe, girls don't pair bond with every guy they fuck. I'd rather be with a girl who fucked two guys casually three years ago than a girl who fucked one guy in a serious relationship over a period of years. Look for a girl with a low body count who doesn't talk too much about her exes, and get with her because she's warm and fun and not just because you're dying for a crumb of her pussy. in the meantime try hooking up with a teen girl so you don't feel left behind psychosexually.

Call it a cope but I'll deal with a little roast, it's better than having an ugly and frigid wife.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:05:35 2019 No.14247663 >>14247121 Wow, peak based

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:07:06 2019 No.14247672 File: 20 KB, 200x192, jffffa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247651 John Green is that you?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:10:26 2019 No.14247698

>>14247607
>Second, you want an argument? Women's sexuality was never "repressed," that's just a conjecture.
You can’t be serious? Women didn’t have the right to vote til the last century. Women were married in their teens to 30 year old men with no say, by their parents. Fucking look at the middle east.

>If it was and women are now "free" from that, explain why 50 Shades of Grey is the best selling book ever among women?
What’s your point? If men are so “above” sexuality explain why they make up the overwhelming majority of the porn audience? Why people like Elliot Rodgers go around killing people because they feel bad for lack of sexual activity?

>Explain why even now every field in STEM or philosophy is dominated by men,
Literally a whole field of feminists dedicated to answering this question

>and women who don't go on to be housewives become unhappy? This has all been well documented.
Most people are unhappy nowadays, because of an infinity number of factors. You don’t think putting all of that on one factor is epistemically unparsimonious?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:12:48 2019 No.14247706 File: 397 KB, 1247x880, artillery crater in Flanders in 1917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247581 >artillery crater in Flanders in 1917 INCREDIBLY BASED

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:13:18 2019 No.14247709
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>>14247581
>The remaining 40% is even more insidious because they at least have some awareness that men don't like visualizing their pussy hole as a battered war-torn artillery crater in Flanders in 1917, so they will hide it from you, or become standoffish and hyperdefensive if they sense that you are bothered by it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:14:26 2019 No.14247711 >>14247698 >literally a whole field of feminists dedicated to answering this question >women would rather theorize why they're being left out rather than just get a STEM degree Lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:14:42 2019 No.14247712 >>14246313 kek underrated

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:16:48 2019 No.14247726 So are there any actual books on this topic or no?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:17:24 2019 No.14247728

>>14247647
>Once you have sex (if you ever do), you’ll realize how short-soghted your worldview is. Sex is only one among many pleasures, and cannot satisfy a individual totally, or define their worth.
he forgot to mention
>bubble tea
>bath bombs
>traveling
>discovering yourself

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:17:33 2019 No.14247731

Incels are just neurasthenics. Their overmasturbation and lack of intimacy has made then spiteful, obsessional, and depressed. Seriously, are you guys really going to pretend that had you had sex (with a willing and attractive partner) early in life, you’d hold the same opinions about women and relationships in general? Give me a break. All of this is so transparent. It’s sad that they’re people out there killing themselves or others due to their sexual obsession
and the worldview derived from it. It’s this kind of thing that makes me think Maslow is right in attributing sex as a genuine physiological need.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:19:49 2019 No.14247746

>>14247581
Bros I am a sperg about some things, if I ask that we get tested together for like herpes (which is apparently cheap) or HPV (which is much more expensive) will a girl just tell me to fuck off? I know she's going to think I'm weird because, well I am. But I just don't want diseases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:20:51 2019 No.14247751 >>14247731 post antidepressant stack

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:21:31 2019 No.14247754

>>14247711
>>>women would rather theorize why they're being left out rather than just get a STEM degree
The same way you rather constructa whole worldview to justify your virginity instead of getting some pussy.

>>14247728
This textbook ressentiment. Not a rational or logical thing wrong with any of those things except that women tend to like them. You hate those things just because they like it. Isn’t that pathetic to you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:21:38 2019 No.14247755 >>14247698 >he doesnt know about hjernevask

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:22:40 2019 No.14247763 >>14247754 >he thinks only virgins hate women you're in for a rude awakening friend

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:23:16 2019 No.14247765 File: 133 KB, 646x438, ED83024C-BF21-4D8B-A3E8-D365B205E70D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247751

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:25:11 2019 No.14247776 >>14246180 incel tier

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:26:16 2019 No.14247782

>>14247763
There are many reasons one can be a misogynist. I don’t think all misogynists are of this (sexual) kind. But the incel variety represented in this thread is. Even if these incels eventually have sex, their mental construals are heavily engrained and difficult to overcome. But the origin of their worldview is derived from their earlier lack of sexual contact. Even if that factor changes, that is still the precipating cause

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:27:10 2019 No.14247787

>>14247698
lulz, how much you wanna bet this anon is best frens with Cuck Green
>"Women were married in their teens to 30 year old men with no say, by their parents. Fucking look at the middle east"
i dont know how far you wanna go back in time, but certainly at one point it was like that.
first of all, its a little disingenuous to pull one of the most extreme regions to illustrate your point.
second of all, i "reckon" that arranged marriages really have really dropped since the 1800s. im pretty sure even Pride and Prejudice had people proposing in the name of "tru luv"
>"If men are so “above” sexuality explain why they make up the overwhelming majority of the porn audience?"
both sexes crave "the fuck." but men crave it much more. men have 7-8 times the amount of testosterone. also its kinda biologically built into the male species
>see little horny rats trying to get the secks, but being locked out by the dominant male
>" Why people like Elliot Rodgers go around killing people because they feel bad for lack of sexual activity?"
most people are relatively similar when it comes to the middle of the bell curve, regardless of sex. but its toward the tail end that the differences are much more stark. as you aptly pointed out, men are much more likely to be serial killers, crazies, etc
>"Literally a whole field of feminists dedicated to answering this question"
this can easily be answered by looking at gender differences. there have been multiple studies, repeated again and again, and conducted by left-leaning "gender differences are a myth" people like you. they found that in gender egalitarian societies (Scandinavian ones), gender differences in vocations were even more pronounced. once youve removed societal barriers, cultural barriers, etc, the only factor left is genetic, where upon it has free reign to manifest gender differences
>males tend to be interested in things. females tend to be interested in people.
>" You don’t think putting all of that on one factor is epistemically unparsimonious?"
this is legit, its hard to ever pin anything on a single factor
that being said, there have been polls showing many career females regretting not engaging in a relationship and starting a family
additionally, something like 30% of wives are housewives by their own choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:30:14 2019 No.14247797 >>14247746 would chad do this? no. anyways, get the hpv vaccine

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:39:04 2019 No.14247844 >>14247797 >would chad do this? no. I'm not concerned about that. I just don't want diseases.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:40:17 2019 No.14247849
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guys im 23 and ive had sex with 12 girls, i have a girlfriend right now and im too afraid to ask her how many people shes slept with but i know its probably at least 20 and it includes several people i know. any books to cope with this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:44:07 2019 No.14247863 >>14247765 Sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:46:27 2019 No.14247880 >>14247849 Why does it matter to you? What about it makes you uncomfortable to know?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:50:05 2019 No.14247907

>>14247880
sometimes when im licking her pussy i picture the dicks of the guys that i know she slept with going in there, and it grosses me out because i'm putting my tongue there. also i picture them doing degrading things to her like slapping her during sex, or cumming on her face, and it makes me feel like i did in elementary school when the other kids tossed my lunchbox over my head

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:52:02 2019 No.14247913 >>14247907 >i picture them doing degrading things to her like slapping her during sex, or cumming on her face Do you these things with your gf?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:52:05 2019 No.14247914 >>14247907 >sometimes when im licking her pussy i picture the dicks step out of the closet my firend

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:53:04 2019 No.14247922 >>14247907 >makes me feel like i did in elementary school when the other kids tossed my lunchbox over my head Can you explain this feeling more?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:54:29 2019 No.14247932 >>14247907 Also does the HPV vaccine prevent the strands that cause oral/throat cancer bros? I wonder if there's a herpes vaccine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:57:00 2019 No.14247940 >>14247849 what's the highest number you'd accept? and under what circumstances (i.e. level of depravity)? btw i am a loser and 12 at 23 seems impossible, how'd you manage?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:58:45 2019 No.14247950

>>14247913
nope, i slap her ass and pull her hair but i don't think she'd want me to cum on her face or hit her. i've done those things to other girls though
>>14247914
not really interested in guys, maybe i'll try it one day though
>>14247922
i was the smallest kid in my class and socially awkward, the bigger kids would bully me and i felt embarrassed, weak, and angry. at college age, i was handsome enough to have girls pursue me many times, but it always felt hollow and like i was still getting beaten by chad somehow. this is probably not unusual for all the other bookish nerds on this board

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:59:25 2019 No.14247956 >>14247907 0. No hymen? No diamond. The only exception is if she rides horses. However, I would have to meet the horse that broke her hymen. Depending on the size of his cock, even that might be too many partners.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:02:19 2019 No.14247968

>>14247940
i went to art school, so the characteristics that made me ugly in middle school and highschool (thin, odd sense of humor, feminine face) suddenly became attractive, and for the first time i had girls pursuing me, even literally chasing me on one occasion. that was the only way i racked up that number, because i'm way too nervous to initiate anything or flirt with someone i don't know– i was lucky enough to be in a place with such a skewed gender ratio that women would take the initiative. now i'm unemployed and living at my parents house though

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:03:23 2019 No.14247975 >>14247968 >i went to art school, >now i'm unemployed and living at my parents house though i think the second one goes without saying

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:03:39 2019 No.14247976 >>14247950 >i've done those things to other girls though How do you feel about this? >like i was still getting beaten by chad somehow. In what ways does this feeling manifests itself in your life?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:03:42 2019 No.14247977 >>14247940 also iwould always prefer equal to my number or below. for modern women that's really unlikely, so maybe 30? 40? i would just hope that they haven't been gangbanged. also i see my number as low

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:04:27 2019 No.14247983 >>14247968 >odd sense of humor why do all faggots say this? what does it even mean?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:06:10 2019 No.14247991

>>14247976
>How do you feel about this?
i forget about it honestly, but it brings me some level of comfort to remember my own debaucheries when i think about it happening to my gf. not as much as it should though

>In what ways does this feeling manifests itself in your life?
having not succeeded much outside of school yet, i carry a slight inferiority complex

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:11:13 2019 No.14248019

>>14247991
>it brings me some level of comfort to remember my own debaucheries
Do you think your gf’s previous partners would feel the same way had they done the things you fear?

>I carry a slight inferiority complex
Does this carry over to your sexual life?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:12:19 2019 No.14248025 >>14247968 >so the characteristics that made me ugly in middle school and highschool (thin, odd sense of humor, feminine face) suddenly became attractive, and for the first time i had girls pursuing me this is such terrible bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:14:10 2019 No.14248034 >>14247977 >prefer equal You're retarded and fell for the equal genders maymay. Preferably, the female you end up marrying should have 0 partners. If that's not realistic, then as little as possible.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:16:08 2019 No.14248042

>>14248019
>Do you think your gf’s previous partners would feel the same way had they done the things you fear?
probably, i think one of the guys she had sex with was caught repeatedly recording girls sucking his dick without consent? he and one other guy she banged were chad womanizers where i lived who slept with pretty much every girl, so i assume they have some kind of complexes of their own

>Does this carry over to your sexual life?
sex with my girlfriend is really good usually, as long as the intrusive thoughts dont pop into my head

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:17:35 2019 No.14248052

>>14248025
not bait my friend, try living in an american city with lots of women who use they/them pronouns, they only go after homo looking guys and other women
>>14248034
sleeping with a virgin sounds awful honestly, they would be really bad in bed. i did it once when i was 16 and it was some of the worst sex i've ever had

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:18:18 2019 No.14248056 >>14247991 fuck i can relate to that so much. it feels weird being approached by women while having been bullied a year ago

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:18:20 2019 No.14248057 >>14248042 >long as the intrusive thoughts dont pop into my head How do they affect you exactly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:19:28 2019 No.14248059 File: 131 KB, 500x333, 1355073355446.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247975 kek

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:19:29 2019 No.14248058

>>14248052
>sleeping with a virgin sounds awful honestly
And? Just breed her and have several healthy children. She'll be with you forever if you train her right. You can fuck other women on the side if you really must. It's not virtuous, but exceptions can be made for sexual emergencies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:25:14 2019 No.14248086 >>14248057 they make me uncomfortable during sex, and at random times when i'm being sweet to my gf, but sometimes when i'm fapping they give me the so called "cuck rush"

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:26:16 2019 No.14248090 >>14248086 why do you fap if you have a gf what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:27:37 2019 No.14248099 >>14248086 >they make me uncomfortable What do you do when you feel uncomfortable? Do you just push the thoughts aways, try to ignore them or do you think about the explicitly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:28:39 2019 No.14248106 >>14248090 anon... you are so innocent...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:30:25 2019 No.14248118 >>14248106 do you live with your gf? why fap? why don't you fuck her more? let's be honest you're LARPing this sounds like a LARP 99% of 4chan doesn't have a gf and the ones that do don't make 20 posts in a thread about it

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:33:42 2019 No.14248136

>>14246209
ok this statement is cool but it's 'no true scotsman' falacy.
also, you have to have a point of view. what qualities are you evaluating to form an opinion?
I love woman for their beauty, grace and their capacity of making a house a home. but their terrible at being men. they don't have honor, they aren't very trustworthy, awful leaders and awful troubleshooters.
'not to retain a high opinion of them' is a broad statement that's kind of shallow. but it makes sense in the modern world, because every human is judged to male standards.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:33:55 2019 No.14248138

>>14248118
Not the same anon. But a gf is a real person with their own sexual habits and freedom. You can’t just “fuck her some more” whenever you want. Women don’t have the same libido as men. Sometiems you need to nut and she doesn’t want to have sex. Are you sheltered? Husbands keeping nudie mags in the basements is like as old a sitcome trope as there is. Relationships arent picture perfect things, there are variabilities. This is especially true sexually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:34:43 2019 No.14248145 >>14248138 only weak men do this shit, especially >Husbands keeping nudie mags in the basements is like as old a sitcome trope as there is lmfao imagine being this pathetic cringe bro downvoted

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:35:21 2019 No.14248152 >>14246175 Have you ever considered talking to one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:35:56 2019 No.14248156 >>14246678 a random girl feeling existential guilt after meaningless sex.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:37:12 2019 No.14248159

>>14248138
>>14248145
I forgot to add that if she's not sexually interested in you a lot, especially to the point where you have to fap, she's just not that into you and you should find another girl
judging from your other posts about you being ugly, women most likely don't find you sexually appealing so this makes sense they view you like a deformed cat

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:37:40 2019 No.14248162 >>14248145 >only weak men do this shit Sure thing, bud. I hope you keep that in mind next time you’re jerking it to a japanese gangbang or getting drunk on cheap beer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:39:13 2019 No.14248168 THE WAY OF MEN. I know, it's about men. But you learn a lot by knowing what women are not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:39:18 2019 No.14248169 >>14248162 Your LARP is over, ugly fag. Seethe. >jerking it to a japanese gangbang Nice projection. >cheap beer I don't consume alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:40:33 2019 No.14248176 >>14248136 you can find a thousand things with far greater beauty than a decaying piece of flesh, be it man or woman

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:43:26 2019 No.14248190

>>14248159
It’s so clear you’re virgin. One can have sex 5 times a week and still feel the need to ejaculate again depending on your libido. Women also have low libidos in general compared to men. They can be with literal Brad Pitt and still not feel it. This is especially true in longer lasting relationships. Also, there is a qualitative difference between sex and masturbation. A lot of men and women in healthy sexual realtionships enjoy masturbating more than sex. When your in control of your own pleasure, you know what to do better than anyone else. In the cases of men who have masturbated a lot for example, there is also some general insesitivity when they have sex due to it. It takes a refractory period to gain the same sensitivity as a non-masturbator. Then there is the factor of kinks and fetishes that are not shared with your partner or that aren’t possible (like japanese gangbang or etc.). You have a very narrow view on the subject due to either your inexperience or ignorance. Having a sexual partner doesn’t exclude your interest or enjoyment in masturbating. They are distinct things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:47:30 2019 No.14248209 >>14248169 >I don't consume alcohol. Ah yes, the conservative straight-edger. Demonizes other’s pleasure to the point where he deprives himself of pleasure altogether. There’s a 9 out of 10 chance you’re a gamer, but let’s not get into that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:49:52 2019 No.14248217 >>14247581 and that 0.5%... they already have bfs or are married.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:50:34 2019 No.14248220
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>14248190
You're a delusional cumbrain LARPing as someone with sexual experience. It's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. All of your thoughts about the subject matter are from television tropes and internet forums. Your brain has been diseased by porn to the point where your conception of a healthy relationship not only includes a lot of masturbation, but glorifies it to the point of being valued more than the relationship itself. You're not getting a (you) for your pathetic effort. I won't be responding to your posts anymore, so don't @ me.

>>14248209
No, I just don't enjoy the taste of alcohol so I don't force chug it like some retard. Imagine being such a socially indoctrinated individual that you are incapable of selecting your own drinks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:52:26 2019 No.14248228 >>14248209 ever tried to find pleasure in things that don't involve sex or neurotoxic substances?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:53:30 2019 No.14248237 >>14248228 Yeah shrooms are pretty based.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:54:36 2019 No.14248242 >>14248237 People who use drugs really are the last shit stain on this planet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:56:04 2019 No.14248251 >>14248242 yepp unless they're chad opioid abusers

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:58:54 2019 No.14248261 >>14248190 >Women also have low libidos in general compared to men this is cope, only for average or below average men they lust after chad 24/7

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:08:40 2019 No.14248313 >>14246175 she's too frail and ugly

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:15:22 2019 No.14248354 >>14246175 this pic really makes me disgusted, man... She looks so cute and comely i would love to ask her out on a date, but if i knew she was sucking chad's dick becuase of some misplaced hope that would instantly turn me off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:18:11 2019 No.14248379 >>14248354 they're all like that

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:24:05 2019 No.14248418
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>Be a young idealist
>Desire a world where mankind is ultimately more happy than miserable, because it's the only achievable, non-fictional utopia
>Believe that this can be achieved through art, education, philosophy, religion, but mostly art, because I'm not a teacher, nor a philosopher or a priest
>One day realize that half of mankind is female
>Become a misantrophic antinatalist

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:24:51 2019 No.14248422 >>14248418 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKBtMLOC2oU

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:29:56 2019 No.14248446 >>14247581 this is a good post, but the trick is to not care >>14247647 this is also a good post for different reasons, and precisely why talking to prostitutes is more fun than talking to "normal" girls

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:38:03 2019 No.14248490 File: 117 KB, 1080x768, 1557425174369.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14248379 this really is suicide fuel for me i just want a non whore comely girl to love...

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:40:42 2019 No.14248505
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>>14248490
women are the weathercocks of their age. whatever the tendencies of an age are, for better or worse, women will be the perfect vessel for them and will even magnify them

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:42:24 2019 No.14248515 >>14246220 you are fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:44:47 2019 No.14248528 >>14248515 You gotta admit though they are pretty retarded. My girl asks the kind of questions you just have to shake your head at

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:05:33 2019 No.14248644 >>14247581 I am a med student and I thought I would enjoy niggers or other minorites suffering the most. But seeing woman in pain gives me 10x times the pleasure

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:13:15 2019 No.14248691 >>14248515 seething

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:14:17 2019 No.14248699 >>14246280 Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:19:35 2019 No.14248734 >>14246175 Thot's and their lies by me

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:22:41 2019 No.14248755 >>14248515 Found the woman.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:28:06 2019 No.14248784 >>14247907 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Aj6PUX49M HPV HERE WE GO, ur a cuck btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:32:55 2019 No.14248814 >>14247956 Was reading until: >I would have to meet the horse fucking kekked

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:38:08 2019 No.14248847

>>14246220
Do the people who hate women in this thread really hate women specifically, or do they truly just hate everyone? Do you really prefer the company of men? Maybe you feel more comfortable around them because there is no question of sex involved, but do you really *like* your male peers also? Something I've tended to notice is that incels hate women sure but they also tend to lack meaningful relationships of ANY kind. You don't think women are stupid you think everyone is stupid, it's just that women are the ones you want to fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:40:13 2019 No.14248865 >>14248847 Name five (5) women who are fun to hang out with.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:40:48 2019 No.14248868

>>14248847
I generally prefer the company of men because of similar interests, thicker skins and a feeling of camaraderie that I can't have with women.
I don't hate women, I see them as different and with value in their own way, just wanted to answer why I prefer the company of men.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:41:05 2019 No.14248872 >>14248865 Tulpa 1 Tulpa 2 Tulpa 3 Tulpa 4 Tulpa 5

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:42:49 2019 No.14248882 >>14246175 Why is this picture so hilarious? It makes me laugh more every time I scroll past it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:44:40 2019 No.14248891

>>14247121
all women hate other women. they only """unite""" in movements like feminism to get more privileges for themselves. they still tear into their friends ruthlessly behind their backs: e.g. "Did you SEE what Sarah wore to the meal? Wow, what mess. I'm only friends with her because I feel sorry for her."

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:52:20 2019 No.14248946 >>14247121 explain

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:00:32 2019 No.14248993 File: 6 KB, 256x256, avatar_default_08_DDBD37.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14247698 Consider suicide you low test midwit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:03:24 2019 No.14249005 >>14247849 Whatever she eventually tells you, double it

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:13:21 2019 No.14249058

>>14247849
Nigga who cares you're only going to create problems by fuelling arbitrary curiosity. You both know she's going to lie, we both know you're going to be unsatisfied with the response and assume she's lying even if she didn't, everyone knows you're just going to keep bothering her for the answer that will never satisfy you, and she's gonna get tired of the bullshit and fuck off probably. Stop thinking about other men's dicks for a change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:17:36 2019 No.14249077 >>14247849 Whatever man its like dog years. Unless you're a 10 your number is always going to be lower than a girls because the playing field is not even. You can't take it personally or it'll drive you insane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:32:19 2019 No.14249133 >>14246175 What's her name? Is there more of her?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:37:35 2019 No.14249158 >>14246180 cringe, stop spamming this pseud

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:38:41 2019 No.14249168

Please explain this whole thread to a confused woman because nowadays i feel like some males live in a different reality. I constantly hear that all 20 yr old girls have had dozens of sexual partners, they always cheat, they're dumb and addicted to social media, they use and manipulate men. Where are you taking these thots from? By the age of 19 i had 1 (one) sexual partner, when i was 20 i got into a relationship, im 27 and still with the same guy. so my total number of sexual partners is 2. As far as i know all my girl friends have had max 3 total sexual partners by now. I never cheated on anyone, I respect my partner and love him with all my heart. My friends also have husbands/fiances/boyfriends they genuinely care about, we have hobbies that dont resolve around makeup and fashion, we all havee a degree and go to work and none of us is financially dependent on our men, we dont go to clubs for crazy parties, we're not on our phones 24/7, i mean, this is the norm in my social circle - so what bizzare kind of women do you all meet? Im not from some traditional family or anything, im a regular, simple girl, literally the dictionary definition of a basic bitch, theres nothing special about me and yet i feel like some kind of a unicorn when i read all this absurd crap here. So who are these whores??? Is this a problem with women in America? Or you all live in some ghetto? Do you look for a girlfriend at the club?? We never sit down with my friends and talk shit like "all fuckboys are the same they just want your pussy" because we simply dont even have a chance to meet such stupid people, so where are you taking these idiots from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:39:34 2019 No.14249173 >>14249168 post feet

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:41:12 2019 No.14249178 >>14249168 it's incel cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:41:36 2019 No.14249182 >>14249168 >im a regular, simple girl, literally the dictionary definition of a basic bitch I know I'm responding to bait but you can't be posting on 4chan and be a regular, simple girl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:42:21 2019 No.14249188 >>14247787 based and logicpilled

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:42:27 2019 No.14249189 >>14249168 uwu im nat like otherzz gurrlzz uwu

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:45:39 2019 No.14249201 >>14246785 >thats not even refutable Nothing is you goddamn moron.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:47:09 2019 No.14249208 >>14246726 Side question: Was she based or bluepilled philosophically speaking?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:48:01 2019 No.14249210

>>14249182
This is not bait, i mean i know it sounds like one but im not gonna post some nudes or photos of legs with a date or whatever so nevermind. I browse 4chan because of /ic/, im an illustrator so I use ic for resources and I just went here because i was (bored) curious whether 4chan actually reads books (lol). So i wouldnt say im a regular 4chan user you know what i mean

>>14249189
im literally trying to say the opposite thing, the evil sex freak thot you all hate seems like the not-like-the-others type.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:50:36 2019 No.14249221 >>14246180 baste

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:52:38 2019 No.14249229 >>14249210 a lot of people who post here are very fucked up and have an incredibly distorted view of relationships. most of them were probably abused as children or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:54:36 2019 No.14249240 >>14249168 >The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:54:57 2019 No.14249242 File: 21 KB, 474x394, external-content.duckduckgo.com.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14246175 Look at her knees and her get-up. She's been suckin'. Suckin' a whoooooooooole lotta d**k Hehe.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:58:26 2019 No.14249258

>>14249229
Okay sure i understand that this is a place for rather "weird" people, incels, whatever, but Im under impression* that this whole notion of "all women are giga whores and have no brain" has been gaining a lot of traction among "normal" men that socialize, leave their room etc. So they meet women on a daily basis and they still believe this nonsense? Or am I entirely wrong and, in fact, only incels think like this?

*of course im speaking from what Ive been seeing on social media, so maybe its all false, but then I dont really meet men that randomly start hating on women to this extend so i have to base everything on the general internet experiece

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:00:09 2019 No.14249269

>>14249240
Welp okay but then why are there so many pages on facebook, subreddits, online boards other than 4chan, revolving solely around this nonsene? I know I shouldnt treat 4chan with too much seriousness but this whole phenomenon has been bigger than 4chan for a good while now

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:01:08 2019 No.14249277 File: 86 KB, 709x558, 1480373314079.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14249269 Because they're made by dumb outsiders and dumb outsider teenagers from other sites who bought into this shit, and post it on said sites.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:02:39 2019 No.14249283 >>14246359 I read this, but I don't see how it explains women.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:05:57 2019 No.14249301

>>14249277
Mmkay, so the general response Ive gotten here so far is that I shouldnt worry about this whole thing too much because its crazy/weird people that propagate it anyway. Well sounds reasonable.
But Im still confused about this whole thing anyway. Stuff like "25 sexual partners" - that sounds pornstar levels to me, maybe im too old, I dont know. I cant imagine a regular girl having this much sex experience so seeing these numbers used so casually is just... wtf. 10 sounds really intense to me already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:06:06 2019 No.14249303 >>14246175 The game by Neil Strauss

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:08:59 2019 No.14249316

>>14249258
I think there's an element of relativity here. For example, by the age of 19 you had more sexual partners than I ever had, and I'm quite a bit over that age now. The fact your friends are average and have around 2-3 partners each at their age is a ton compared to a lot of more insular guys.

In the past, marriages were arranged for socio-economic purposes, meaning guys like me didn't have to worry about this kind of shit. We could just keep on trucking with studies/work, doing what we do best, and then letting our new wives look after us, basically show us how to be less autistic, and fix us up to be good fathers and fit into society better. Marrying was part of what it meant to be to become a man.

Now, it seems like such a relationship is downright impossible. You're an illustrator, a rather nerdy job by the sounds of it. However, you got laid at 19. Chances are, a male equivalent wouldn't lose their v-card for another 3-4 years. The fact that you've had multiple sexual partners within that period is telling of a massive change in the last century.

Incel is a bad term. Sex isn't the issue. Relationships are. We autists are decent for accruing wealth/resources/security, and so in the past were actually decent bets for long-term partners. Now, were basically an insurance policy for women about to hit the wall. I'm not saying that all women are like that, but it is a genuine fear that I have looking at how so many of my male relatives have had their lives ruined by divorce.

I repeat. Sex is immaterial. It's the relationship.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:09:45 2019 No.14249321 >>14246180 Incel manifesto. And i do not mean that disparagingly

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:11:00 2019 No.14249329 >>14246220 The more I love my gf in particular the more I hate women in general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:13:30 2019 No.14249339 >>14249168 if you don't live in the united states then little to none of incel vitriol will apply to you. be happy you don't have to live in our hellscape

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:14:00 2019 No.14249342

>>14249210
>I browse 4chan because of /ic/
You honestly think /ic/ is a normal place for art resources? 4chan is 4chan all the way through.

But to answer your question seriously, it's a combination of factors. First, the disassociation from physical reality, the digital supplanting the material. The people who browse 4chan tend to take most of their input through impersonal mediums--books, tv, games, movies, internet. These mediums are inherently sensational because they are driven by Darwinistic forces. Only whatever is most interesting survives, over time the criteria for what remains interesting becomes gradually diluted as capitalistic forces encourage regression to the mean.

Most of the browsers here are also very young, either in college or recently graduated, very impressionable and very inexperienced, socially and sexually. Thus they begin to mistake the material reality--of which they have little to no experience--for the sensationalist digital one. The rest is confirmation bias--they seek out philosophers, writers, tweets, pick up gurus, instagram thots, tinder demographics, anything that will support their world view. They find corners of the internet populated with people of similar mind (as here) mistake biased social proof for established fact. They get caught in a vicious feedback loop of isolation, alienation, promotion of the conditions that lead to further isolation and alienation.

In a nutshell, they think everyone is a thot because in their world, everyone really is a thot.

Also:
>Vilppu, Loomis or Hogan?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:14:24 2019 No.14249343

>>14249168
survey of total sexual partners for people, with age range of 15-44
>The male average has come down (since 2006) slightly to 6.1 in the most recent surveys, with girls going up to 4.2.
>"According to the survey, 41.3 percent of men and 32.6 percent of women admitted to lying about their sexual history. Overall, men were more likely to increase their number of sexual partners, whereas women were more likely to decrease it."
theres a reason why the common joke is that males inflate, while females deflate, their numbers.

>"they always cheat"
this is in reference to the female biological reproductive strategy of hypergamy. for many people, i "reckon" that this doesnt happen to them in very serious relationships, such as marriage.
the problem is the always lingering doubt: "you can never be sure that she wont, and moreover, it wont be difficult for her to achieve a successful affair"
whereas men are equally guilty of wanting to spread their seed as wide as possible, the inherent barriers to secks as determined by females makes the reality much less likely unless you are (tongue-in-cheek) a "Chad"
>females are the gatekeepers of secks. males are the gatekeepers of commitment.

>"we have hobbies that dont resolve [sic] around..."
males tend to be more interested in things, while females tend to be more interested in people.
this manifests in various domains, ranging from professions to hobbies.
many males have the problem of passing unfair judgement on females for being interested in "stupid shit."
while a male may give a fair pass to another male for being interested in something else (lulz, look at this dork and his baseball excel spreadsheets), their inherent biases and male paradigm makes it difficult for them to pass that same concept to females.
>"lulz, look at this bitch and her gossip column"

>"none of us is financially dependent on our men"
the common complaint on the Chins isnt that females arent working - modern society dictates that most people need to work (see the rise of dual income households). its more a disgust that stems from some statistical facts:
>near 70% of all divorces are initiated by whamen
>98% (or was it 99? 97?) of all post-divorce financial settlements are adjudicated in favor of the female
males feel gipped, because of the misguided idea of marriage: "till death do us part"
>we made an arrangement, thats true. we divided our shares and contributions to the household so that i, the man, is the primary breadwinner.
>but now youre suddenly leaving what most thought was a life-long contract, instead of bearing down and working things out like our forefathers (see old people saying "it takes work to maintain a relationship, its not all fluttering butterflies"). and now suddenly i have to pay? how come im not getting a substitute wife/replacement relationship in return? oh, because the courts and society dont know how to deal with things that cannot be measured in monetary figures

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:16:50 2019 No.14249359

>>14249301
If you go out clubbing every week and get laid once a month, thats 12 sexual partners in a year. Hell, if you get laid 4 times a year, in 5 years you'll have had 20 partners. This is partially why it's silly to overthink the number of sexual partners a person has had. If you are proactive (and of course it is many times easier if you're a woman) it does not take long to rack up high numbers of casual partners, assuming of course that you are "playing the field" and not in any long term relationship.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:19:22 2019 No.14249371

>>14249301
It's really not that uncommon for women in the western countries to have had 30 and upward partners by the time they were, say, 20 or so. A lot of women have even come forward and said how many they've had. It's really easy to get laid as a girl in the west.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:20:04 2019 No.14249373 >>14249301 > I shouldnt worry about this whole thing too much because its crazy/weird people that propagate it anyway. you're coping, this is reality in the usa

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:20:21 2019 No.14249377
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>>14249168
>>14249343
finally, the explanation for
>"so where are you taking these idiots from?"
stems from the unfortunate byproduct of the revolution in communications via things such as the Internet: "the noise-to-signal ratio is WAY off"
>the vocal minority seem to always be the loudest, and by extension dictate general dialogue and attitudes

its like trickle down economics, but for stupid ideas and attitudes
go find me a random female on the street who doesnt believe in something stupid like
>"but muh gender pay gap"

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:24:04 2019 No.14249390 >>14248136 learn to write you fucking tard

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:24:05 2019 No.14249392

>>14249258
To say that it is limited to online spaces is a bit misleading, because these are all real people who exist outside of the internet too, but for what it's worth I am fairly confidently sure that the viewpoints here are NOT massively common in the "real" world. I think that deindustrialisation, austerity and the collapse of social institutions like churches, sports clubs, unions and shit like that have led to greater isolation and a prolonged adolescence that means a greater proportion of people end up virgins for longer. Thats a real issue and it's reflected in the data, and it shouldn't be ignored. THAT BEING SAID I think your 'average' male is still a normal guy, who wants sex, may even hold somewhat sexist viewpoints, but is still more or less "normal" and does not blame their inadequacies on stacies and giga chads. Such sexual neurosis is the symptom of middle class prudishness (the corollary of the incel is the liberal #MeToo feminist) and if you step outside such circles you will find much more normal and healthy sexual relationships.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:24:54 2019 No.14249395

>>14249377
I always find these kinds of analyses dubious. How do you know you aren't falling prey to sampling bias or Simpson's paradox, for example? And why do they arbitrarily cut off at five years? And how do they account for demographic changes over such a long time period?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:25:41 2019 No.14249404

>>14249316
Okay, I agree that 3 or even 1 sexual partner is more than many 19 year old males have, but then - I had my first time with a man of the same age as me and so did my friends. So, these men had the same "statistics" like us. But okay, i still understand your point here.

>and then letting our new wives look after us, basically show us how to be less autistic, and fix us up to be good fathers and fit into society better. Marrying waas part of what it meant to be to become a man.
well thats an interesting point of view, I never considered it like this and frankly, do men need fixing, or did they ever needed it?... I dont think most men are autistic or something, why would they need a woman to help them socialize? With being fathers i do agree because we rarely raise boys to be nurturing (not that i think its essentially bad or something, just an objective fact). so I guess help from wife is, and has been, needed indeed

Is it a nerdy job... I mean, maybe it is, my major was design. I'd say its just artsy, so a little different kind of nerdy.

>The fact that you've had multiple sexual partners within that period is telling of a massive change in the last century.
Right, okay, (is 2 multiple.. im not sure) but I guess this is the effect of society agreeing that arranged marriage isnt the best anymore, right? And I thought modern men agree?... Ehh, I dont know, this seems like a whole another discussion. Yes i do agree there has been a major change in sex/relationship over the last century but i dont think people changed at all, just what is frowned upon changed. But lets not argue too much about this i dont have any strong opinions here.

>Now, were basically an insurance policy for women about to hit the wall.
> how so many of my male relatives have had their lives ruined by divorce.
Right, now this is where I get confused very often, because to me these kind of problems is an outcome of adult people - so men and women - being just stupid; agreeing to things they shouldnt, marrying people they dont love, making irresponsible financial decisions, you know what i mean. in the past they wouldnt be able to divorce so they would just have to put up with each other until death, the difference now is that divorce isnt frowned upon anymore.

Im honestly, truly trying to empathize with people like you. I just want to say that you might be seeing the whole situation through a very distorted lense. Take my point of view: there are a LOT of male assholes that would ditch me the moment I got pregnant, or abuse me, cheat, whatever, you know its true, the chads are out there (lol) - but I actively avoided these men and now i dont have to worry about being a single mom on a welfare. And so i simply advise young men to avoid thots and obviously stupid girls... cant believe a woman that seems genuinely in love with you and has a kind, good personality and doesnt give you red flags in general will turn out to be a divorce monster in 20 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:26:44 2019 No.14249408 uh okay let me take a moment to respond to all of you, i didnt notice so many new comments because i was responding to that other person

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:28:08 2019 No.14249414

>>14249395
by all means, keep an open-mind. youre free to take a closer look at the data.
but NSFG comes from the CDC, a governmental organization. so you already know they have inherent bias to paint a better picture.
and then throw in the fact that most people who are in the field of psychology and social studies are female, and you get another "well, the possibility of this having a 'paint a better picture' bias just went higher"

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:33:21 2019 No.14249436

>>14249301
The problem with the Internet is that it amplifies and reinforces certain viewpoints. The term echo chamber is a meme, but it is fitting here. There have always been lonely people, there have always been miserable people. Perhaps there are more now, but regardless the internet allows these people to meet and to wind each other up. It allows otherwise normal people who are experiencing some bad luck to misidentify as incel, and to trick themselves into thinking they are doomed and that relationships with women are impossible and not even worth pursuing. There are people in this world who will never fuck, I think we have to accept this. But how many "incels" would wind up in happy sexual relationships if only they had the patience? By patience I really mean patience. It may take 3 or 5 years, and that time may feel agonizing when one is forced to see their peers having sex in that time. The thing is, without the internet such people would have been forced to wait it out. Now, they can form communities that reinforce their negative feelings and ironically perpetuate and exacerbate them. My point to you is this: the internet distorts reality, and the viewpoints you read here should not be understood as normal or widespread. The inverse however is also true, that reality is distorted by the internet, and that the number of people believing such things is undoubtedly higher than it used to be. In my estimation you seem like an incredibly normal person and that your instincts are correct.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:34:15 2019 No.14249440 Gender is a construct that changes over time

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:35:09 2019 No.14249447

>>14249404
>cant believe a woman that seems genuinely in love with you and has a kind, good personality and doesnt give you red flags in general will turn out to be a divorce monster in 20 years.
Of course you can't. Because you're a woman. You intrinsically see yourself in other women, as you see them in yourself. I remember there was a quote from Wolf Hall, where Cromwell comments of his wife, "it's something women do: spend time imagining what it's like to be each other." You're biased in the same way the bitter anons here are biased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjbsD-TYi3s

>>14249414
The problem is that most of the time the statistical errors are unintentional. This is especially true in the social sciences. But even if they were fudged, the bias would be for significance (because that alone results in publication) not to support some ideology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:37:22 2019 No.14249453 >>14249447 >"the bias would be for significance (because that alone results in publication) not to support some ideology." see, "but muh gender pay gap" phenomenon

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:38:13 2019 No.14249454 >>14249404 stopped reading at "is 2 multiple" dumb bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:41:04 2019 No.14249464 >asking on 4chan If you are serious this is probably the worst place to go to ask. This place is swarming with bitter misogynists who are upset at the world and take it out on women

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:43:18 2019 No.14249471 You guys ever think you are just gay?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:46:42 2019 No.14249488 >>14247612 Damn thats a toasty roasty

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:48:08 2019 No.14249494

>>14249339
I dont live in the us thats true, but i've been seing these "opinions" pop up on my local social media as well.

>>14249342
Haha well i admit /ic/ is a circus, i found the link on some board ages ago and I treat it like a trashpile, I just walk around carefully picking up the stuff I need.
I never thought about darwinism in this context, does sound interesting. So basically you're saying we as a society tend to stick to the clickbait (which is a storng signal so it prevails) and forget the rest (which is too weak of a signal so we dont care).
The process of reassuring oneself with likeminded people is, well, a pretty well known one, but then it never fails to amaze me how... detached? from reality such groups can be. They see something completely different than I do when I go outside. I feel like there's no critical thinking involved, even though such people feel like THEY are the only ones thinking critically.
Fuck Loomis! Grandchad Vilppu all the way.

>>14249343
Sorry for that resolve instead of revolve, english isnt my first language as you can see, im still learning (and its going not so well lol)
I understand and am familiar with every idea you described, but I feel like many men think these ideas result in the most extreme possible outcome. For example: when redpillers say women are hypergamous - I think it showed the most when I was 18-19, because I wore a lot of makeup and dresses and was constantly thinking about my looks, so probably I was trying to attract as many boys as possible. But thats it. Nothing more. You know what i mean. I didnt became a sex obsessed freak. Im not against aknowledging some primal insticts or biological differences between women and men but I just dont think they show *that* strongly for most people

>>14249359
Dude but who goes clubbing every weekend!?!? And gets laid in some public place??? Ive never done something like that in my life, this is cray cray. Thots and douches do that, sure, but we dont want them in our lifes as normal people, right?

>>14249371
I SWEAR i dont know any woman with this "experience". 30 is absolutely crazy and unrealistic number. I refuse to believe it. By the time you reached 20 the whole town wouldve started gossiping about you. I just refuse.

>>14249377
Well now here comes a different subject and thats modern feminism. I admit i dont have views that resonate with what looks like the norm on social media. So I dont wanna argue about that. But even then, where I live women arent that feminism-intense, maybe we go protest against absolute abortion ban from time to time but its not like theres some female terror and everyone gets cucked.

>>14249392
>(the corollary of the incel is the liberal #MeToo feminist)
Hmmm.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:48:27 2019 No.14249496

>>14249404
>"Yes i do agree there has been a major change in sex/relationship over the last century but i dont think people changed at all"
this is true. but unrestrained female hypergamy, just because its nature, doesnt mean its a good thing.
men are punished by the legal system and society for spreading their seed as wide as possible
>child support
females, on the other hand, do not have an equivalent punishment.
in the past, there was "enforced" monogamy via soft powers such as cultural values, guidance from older people, and accepted social norms. this was one mean (stoning whamen to death for adultery was another) to curb female hypergamy.
modern culture and attitudes have torn many of these things down without a closer inspection of why, as well as the possible consequences
>see Chesterton's Fence

>"to me these kind of problems is an outcome of adult people - so men and women - being just stupid; agreeing to things they shouldnt"
i agree wholeheartedly with this. but males nonetheless have to pay severe financial consequences for divorce.
are whamen strong and independent or not? you made a bad contract - you chose to marry him, you chose to stay at home instead of advancing your career. why is it suddenly fair to apportion half of the male's assets in the event of a divorce?
>where is the advocacy for female agency and responsibility when it comes to the negatives?

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Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:55:44 2019 No.14249526
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>>14249494
>"I feel like many men think these ideas result in the most extreme possible outcome"
this is the truth. if it ever were as bad as many of people here proclaim, there would actually be an incel revolution

>"But even then, where I live women arent that feminism-intense"
thats because many of the ideas of feminism have already become in-grained in mainstream thought.
>even 26% of Republicans believe feminism hasnt gone far enough
i guarantee that a handful of your "thats not even feminism, thats just common decency" will, under closer scrutiny, reveal to be ill-thought and/or not based on the truth. thats how you know how far feminism has soaked into mainstream thoughts and ideas.
>see "but muh gender pay gap"

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 19:58:34 2019 No.14249538

>>14249494
>Dude but who goes clubbing every weekend!?!?

I mean some people? Or if not clubbing, bars and house parties and the like. I'm not a night club kinda guy but I go out every Friday and Saturday with my friends, and sometimes it leads to hookups. Where do you live, woop woop? Maybe you forget the demographics of these boards. The men here tend to be college aged, the time when a lot of people (not all, but a lot) are going out every weekend and potentially getting laid. For what's it worth, I'm not judging anyone man or women, but this is the reality. I say it completely neutrally. Also I'm not saying it's true for everyone, but for a decent chunk of that demographic it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:01:31 2019 No.14249549 >>14249538 You write in feminine vernacular

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:01:46 2019 No.14249551

>>14249494
>>14249538

Also will add that not everyone is hooking up "in a public place" lol. That definitely happens, but most people take whoever it is they've met back to their place. Have you seriously never heard of a one night stand? It is not only thots and douches who have them... maybe you live in a very sexually repressed climate

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:03:14 2019 No.14249559 >>14249549 maybe thats why I'm the one here getting laid

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:06:34 2019 No.14249576 >>14249559 This is an example of feminine reasoning as well, regarding sex as an achievement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:07:30 2019 No.14249580 >>14249576 thats convenient

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:08:22 2019 No.14249583

>>14249454
Yes i know 2 is multiple, jesus. I just wouldnt use "multiple" in this context and you know you wouldnt either. Oh, i have 2 apples on my table. Multiple apples? Would you think I have 2 if i told you i had multiple apples? Come on, dont be stupid.

>>14249447
Im sorry but I disagree. I dont see women as one uniform social group, I see us as an array of multiple (so not 2!!!) groups. And I used a woman from the "normal" group as an example. I dont relate to, I dont envy thots, I dont even think about them at all because I just dont have any interactions with them. I see every woman as a blank page, as a stranger, she can be whatever. Theres a general concept of feminity I relate to but its too vague to apply to such concepts. But then, yes of course, I am indeed biased in the topic of women, cant say no to that.

>>14249464
On one hand yes, on the other I ve got pretty serious, kind answers here so lets say this has been a good experience so far. So far. Aaand like I said im just bored.

>>14249496
>unrestrained female hypergamy, just because its nature, doesnt mean its a good thing.
Umm yes of course, I agree. But I dont think we as a society have agreed on accepting absolute hypergamy yet... have we? Did I miss something? Because I feel like many people rely of the clickbaitish version of the reality presented by the media. Is it really normal for current 19 year olds to whore around? Dont current 19 year old generally agree that monogamous lifestyle is the most beneficial? I might be completely unaware, thats why I'm asking.

Now, about the divorce - well I do agree with you here and I dont have any contrarguments. I do think the imbalance is unfair. But. I think the negative consequences do come for women, just in a different form. A divorced woman with a kid isn't really gonna do that well in life, I suppose. A divorced man? I dont see any problem, he'll probably find a new girl in a month. Women in general dont care that much about their partner being divorced/having kids as men care about women (I think, at least). I can see myself marrying a single dad and raising hs kid, I wouldnt feel cucked or something. Men? I think most see this as a nightmare.

But then I dont think I can really compare this sort of consequences to losing money during a divorce.

Well you're right, men have it fucked when it comes to divorce, what can I say here.

But I still do believe in power of sticking to normal, trutworthy women with actual sense of honor. I do believe in the depth of my heart they wont fuck you over. I wont, at least.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:13:22 2019 No.14249600 >>14249580 When faced with mounting evidence, women will often give curt replys, in attempts to shut down conversation and not cede more ground.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:13:58 2019 No.14249604 >>14249549 >>14249576 >>14249600 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:15:26 2019 No.14249612 >>14248644 basadum

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:17:11 2019 No.14249621 >>14249168 >we all havee a degree and go to work and none of us is financially dependent on our men cringe

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:20:40 2019 No.14249643

>>14249229
I'm a good boy, too good you could say. Raised by great parents. Everyone I come across admires me for being so well behaved, but I hate it. I treat everyone with respect and kindness, but I don't want to. Secretly, I hate the whole world, especially females. They'll never know though, because I don't even show a hint of it in public.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:22:01 2019 No.14249648

>>14249526
Well Im afraid we dont share a common sentiment here. I differentiate between feminism and "feminism" personally. I see things like women's right to vote or the right to have a bank account as a *positive* achievemnt of society and a common decency indeed and it could be still applied to some countries.

Whining about women in video games, menspreading, oh my god, whatever - thats "feminism" to me. Maybe thats what you think I regard as common decency, I dont know. But I know many, many young women share this sentiment. Crazy feminist stick to crazy feminists, they're not the average.

Paygap - ehh, this whole subject/issue/problem is an absolute clickbait and a buzzword used to anger people. Wages differentiate between SO many social groups for SO many reasons, man/women is just one of the examples and it simply cannot be analyzed without taking these other paygaps into account, and on top of that it looks completely different in every country. I dont see any women outside social media whine too much about it where I live.

>>14249538
>>14249551
Okay maybe I am too prude with this "never heard of hookups" thing (sorry i just have a boring life), but I still dont agree about clubbing, a working adult simply doesnt have energy to waste every weekend on partying hard. We need some time alone, we need to clean the house, you know. I just wanna stay home after 5 days of working. I see clubbing as a whole another subculture. I wouldnt count these people into the general equation. They do ecstasy, wear white mini skirts and suck dick in bathroom, lets say its not -regular-

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:25:13 2019 No.14249660

>>14249621
Can you explain whats cringe here? I think a 25 year old woman with no job that sits in her boyfriend's wallet is cringe.

>>14249643
Well, dude, I dont know what to tell you. Dont be nice if you dont want to, this world is ready for assholes. Im never overly nice to anyone, im neutral at most to people i meet. Why do you force yourself to be someone youre not? Face the consequences and embrace it

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:26:08 2019 No.14249665

>>14249648
>a working adult
I agree with you, I think we are talking past each other. Again, I want you to consider the demographics here. For a working adult in their mid to late 20s? Yes it's not normal. For a college aged student in their late teens to early 20s? Much more common and expected.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:30:19 2019 No.14249676

>>14249660
when women didn't have jobs they relied on men now that they have jobs they have much more leverage over men and don't have to rely on them. it basically turns women into lesser men. women are supposed to be moms and raise offspring, not out working all the time. what these career women end up doing is letting the state and child day care centers spend more time with their children than they do and that ends up creating all sorts of dysfunctional shit down the road and then everyone gets butthurt about how the children turn out.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:30:32 2019 No.14249677

Read top-tier occult texts and study ancient gods and goddesses.

There's a reason it was Eve that was secondary to Adam, yet it was Eve who ate of the fruit first.
There's a reason for the shape and aesthetic of the phallus and the shape and aesthetic of the yoni.
There's a reason women dominate in the modern world, in late stage capitalism, while men suffer.

Woman is the lunar to the man's solar.
She is the water to the man's rock (and fire).
She is the feline to the man's canine.
The totalitarian to the man's authoritatian.
The communism to the man's fascism.

Why have the leaders of North Korea always notably presented and depicted themselves as motherly figures?
Why do women have higher rates of bipolar while men have higher rates of autism?
Why are there so many similarities between the gods and goddesses of various ancient cultures, and the values and symbols they represent?

Answer these questions and you'll start to understand women.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:31:12 2019 No.14249681

>>14249583
>" But I dont think we as a society have agreed on accepting absolute hypergamy yet"
we havent agreed on accepting absolute hypergamy, but its trending that way already
females want monogamy, when its with a Chad
hypergamy doesnt mean whoring around, although whoring around can be a behavior of hypergamy. hypergamy is dating up.
>almost all females either date up, or across. males date down, or across.
theres a reason you see marriages between a male doctor and a female waitress, but rarely between a male barista and a female lawyer.

>" A divorced woman with a kid isn't really gonna do that well in life, I suppose. A divorced man? I dont see any problem"
this is because most divorced females are old, and thus ugly. males are biologically wired to desire youth and fertility, just as males are more likely to place a higher value on looks
>although females are much harsher when it comes to looks, rating 80% of males as below average in the looks department
while males are "superficial" in valuing looks, their standard is so low the vast majority of females will meet the criteria
>as long as she's not ugly (it's not, only if she's a super model)
>as long as she isn't obese (its not, only if shes skinny/hot)
>see Bill Burr joke: "we're biologically wired to want to fuck like 75% of the women out there"

>"omen in general dont care that much about their partner being divorced/having kids as men care about women (I think, at least)"
thats because those men arent interested in being fathers. theyre interested in a child-less relationship and/or secks.
>see the thousands of "beta bois" lining up to date single mothers

>"But I still do believe in power of sticking to normal, trutworthy women with actual sense of honor."
just wait until you get older. the sands of time almost always slowly erode quickly uttered steadfast convictions.
>see young person saying "ill always love you" and then 10 years later and now suddenly is in a brand new happy relationship

>"I do believe in the depth of my heart they wont fuck you over. I wont, at least."
good for you, and i hope you remain committed to your values.
but you have to understand that all humans (probably animals too) will always be inclined toward the easiest path
>obtain your goal (survival/reproduction) while expending the least amount of energy possible
the biological reproductive strategy and evolutionary behavior of females has trended toward this as well.
>should i risk doing XYZ, or let my hunter-gatherer partner do the work? by remaining passive, me and my offspring are more likely to survive.
this lack of agency and responsibility subtly seeps its way into the female way of thinking. intercourse is rarely by design, its always some magic thing that "just happens"
>see Karen Straughn on "the tyranny of female hypoagency"
>https://youtu.be/KBgcjtE0xrE

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:33:11 2019 No.14249691

>>14249665
Hm, okay, I forgot Im not really the demographic were tlaking about anymore lol. I feel old now, heck. Anyway, I partied as a teenager/college student of course, but I went to friends houses and we drunk with friends, or we went out to pubs with whole pack, we just never felt the need to go clubbing, we alwas saw the party harders as an unrelatable groups, and I wouldnt say they were the norm?

But, funfact - even though I'm a boring prude (apparently), I'm a diehard technohead (i mean techno not emt) and I've been to multiple sets. Its ridiculous how different this is from regular clubbing in terms of dating, sex etc, I swear I've never experienced any sort of romantic or sexual stuff in a techno club. I wear tshirt jeans and nike shoes every time, no makeup. I feel so safe at raves and been on my own a few times. What Im trying to say here, apart from rambling about my hobbies which probably doesnt interest anyone here, is that to someone who doesnt know anything about techno, I might probably be a club going thot... interesting.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:36:32 2019 No.14249706

>>14249648
>"Wages differentiate between SO many social groups for SO many reasons, man/women is just one of the examples and it simply cannot be analyzed without taking these other paygaps into account"
close, but not exactly right
there are like 20 factors explaining the gender pay gap. sexism is down there as a factor.
the simple fact is that most males have higher paying jobs, while most females have lower paying jobs.
most males work longer hours, most females work shorter hours.
males tend be less disagreeable than females. for instance, if you plucked two random people (one male, one female) and guessed which one was more agreeable, and you picked the female, you would be right like 60% of the time. disagreeable people are more likely to negotiate and buttheads to ask for a pay raise - agreeable people are less likely to engage in this type of conflict-prone behavior.

im not saying youre wrong, im just trying to provide you a more complete picture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:42:26 2019 No.14249732 >>14246678 >she

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:43:01 2019 No.14249735

>>14249676
Well, it will probably not surprise you too much that I feel very good knowing I can provide for myself and I wont become homeless if my boyfriend suddenly decides to get a sidechick. But then, in the "old times" it would be frown upon him to do so, so women probably didnt have to fear that, they just trusted their husbands they wouldnt throw them out. Nowadays? I would feel absolutely awful if I were to depend on a guy in this sense, I would be scared for my life.
I do agree that work and children clash together and in general children are suffering because of this. The problem is I am probably what many of you see as a degenerate because I dont want kids and its been agreed upon with my boyfriend a long time ago. Well, there, you got me. Ive wasted my biological prime.

>>14249681
>females want monogamy, when its with a Chad
eh, I dont know, I've always had the impression that women want monogamy with the ideal, caring, reasonable, adult man in a gucci suit that stays at home and enjoys cooking.

>their standard is so low the vast majority of females will meet the criteria
I dont agree! Man, I put up with so much shit growing up, I'm over 6 ft tall and have a horse-ish face. Soooo many boys told me im ugly when nobody asked. Im surprised when I see men online saying they have low standards because I feel the EXACT opposite, i feel like every guy i know/meet wants a supermodel and views the average girl as ugly, im not kidding you

>just wait until you get older. the sands of time almost always slowly erode quickly uttered steadfast convictions.
You mean, Im supposed to wait until im older to see these effects in other women, or to see myself transform into a bish? Man, I sure do hope there isnt a ticking red pill inside my body that will explode and tell me to divorce my poor boyfriend when I turn 40. Speaking of, he still hasnt proposed, any redpill advice on that for me?

>will always be inclined toward the easiest path
amen. which actually enrages me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:46:16 2019 No.14249746 >>14249735 >horse face lmao

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:48:25 2019 No.14249756

>>14249706
Okay, what do you have to say about paygaps between front end and back end devs? And between typographers and designers? Because there sure is a prominent paygap where i live and i consider both of these "pairs" to require a very similar basic set of skills in terms of technical level/intelligence/etc? Sorry I know these are pretty random examples but I really do feel like theres a million nuances about wages and paygaps and its just ignorant to generalize it with claiming there is something as simple as just paygap betwen man/woman, no other factors included. I got a lot less money than my male peers when I was an engineer (i have a diploma and a whole career that i dont do anymore, nvm) and I make slightly more money as an illustrator than my male peers. Still I wouldnt generalize any of these 2 examples and say they are just a gender paygap, because there were/are so so many different factors at play

Yeah im not saying youre wrong either just enjoying the conversation

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:52:44 2019 No.14249775

>>14249735
It seems like youre addressing your own insecurites more than the genereal libido of women. Maybe you are a really ugly woman, or maybe youre just self concious. Either way, youre in a relationship which underminds your reasoning that men have high standards.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:53:51 2019 No.14249780

>>14249735
>"women want monogamy with the ideal, caring, reasonable, adult man in a gucci suit that stays at home and enjoys cooking."
this is most likely false. for females, a significant portion of what defines attraction to them is a component known as social value (what your standing is in the social hierarchy)
maybe in a past society that placed great value on a non-working position (shaman) but certainly not in today's world where a man's social worth and standing is in large part determined and influenced by his wealth and/or income

>"i feel like every guy i know/meet wants a supermodel and views the average girl as ugly"
we subconsciously have a way to filter out the people we meet and interact with. ive never asked questions or passed out questionnaires inquiring whether the person i am meeting or interacting with is a Young Earth Creationist, and yet i am fairly certain almost nobody i know is one, despite polls showing something like 20-30% (at the very least, a significant minority) of Americans being Youth Earth Creationist
similarly, i dont know any Trump voters, despite near 50% of the voting population voting for him.

>"Im supposed to wait until im older to see these effects in other women, or to see myself transform into a bish?"
no, im just saying convictions, resolutions, and promises are much harder to keep than what many of us initially believe, especially when the time frame of such convictions are "forever"

>"Speaking of, he still hasnt proposed, any redpill advice on that for me?"
i am not qualified to offer any advice desoo, as evident by the fact im posting on 4chan.
just continue to be (or improve to become one) a better partner. if you demonstrate to him that not only have you met the criteria for "wife material" and that also "you are the best he's gonna get" it will only be a matter of time before he proposes
definition of a better partner depends on your and his values. i wont get into specifics because no one likes a cunty preacher.

>>14249756
>"about paygaps between front end and back end devs?"
you cant compare those two fairly, despite being similar. a patent lawyer will make a lot more than a family lawyer, despite both being lawyers.
like you said already, there are so many factors at play.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:55:23 2019 No.14249788

>>14249735
>The problem is I am probably what many of you see as a degenerate because I dont want kids and its been agreed upon with my boyfriend a long time ago. Well, there, you got me. Ive wasted my biological prime.
You will regret this. They all do. Nice bait fag, but you took it too far with this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:59:47 2019 No.14249808 >>14248847 This. I fucking despise 99% of people and it's killing me

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:00:43 2019 No.14249812 >>14247726 Welcome to /lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:06:59 2019 No.14249849 >>14248025 the amount of arty girls that want people who look like someone off trainspotting will astound you

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:13:58 2019 No.14249878
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>>14249775
Hm, no, I consider myself to be pretty attractive, just not conventionally, I tower over most girls big time, i dont have that cute small tiddy gf body so thats probably unattractive to many men, but i dont think its unnatractive per se. Im fit, i have tits, ass, long hair, a complete set of teeth, all that stuff you know. Well what does it mean, it doesnt at all. I genuinely came here from a place of curiosity. Curiosity about where I can find these raging thots with 35 sexual partners that put a stain on my honor as a woman. *sheds an angry tear*

>>14249788
Im really, really not baiting. Picrel is my very feminine hand, I need you to believe im just a lost, confused femoid woman and I didnt write all these comments in broken english for nothing. No I wont post feet. And i do hope we dont regret not having a kid, although i think about the consequences sometimes. We really dont want a kid and its been 7 years already but everyone keeps saying we will regret it... who knows, anything can happen

>>14249780
I promise you I am positive most girls dream about a husband material. Any girl that doesnt grow out of dating jake pauls by the age of 19 must have issues and we consider it worrying.

Okay boys Im gonna go to sleep its 3 am here and my non-redpilled boyfriend is asking me what tf im doing. Thanks for the talk, I do understand some of the points here now. I enjoy getting the "unfiltered" view on women here, makes me think about a lot of stuff and my own personality, it feels like everyone and everything is tending to me and trying not to offend me at all cost on social media sometimes so this is refreshing. And I didnt even get called a femoid or anything, just a stupid bitch once which is a very tolerable level of gender oppression in my book (lmao). I do wish that every incel here meets a nice, kind hearted girl they can fuck and love forever.

OP - Im really sorry but I dont really have a book that explains women to recommend, because wtf, women are just stupid bags of meat just like men, so dont try to analyze it too much. "Solaris" by Stanislaw Lem is what I read most recently and it was absolutely fantastic so I do recommend that!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:17:00 2019 No.14249893 >>14249878 Why don't you want a child? Are you mentally ill? A woman who doesn't want children has issues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:25:16 2019 No.14249923 >>14249893 This

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:26:43 2019 No.14249931

>>14249893
(ipromise im still going to sleep here) Of course I have issues, come on, who doesnt. I had a really shit mother and a nonexistent father, so daddy + mommy issues - full package - effect: I really find myself unable to view myself as a mother figure, it makes me physically cringe. A mother/daughter relationship sounds absolutely bizzare to me, I cant place myself in that position even theoretically in my head. And Im so afraid of pregnancy, I cant fathom the pain, the stuff happening to my body, breastfeeding, im genuinely terrified, it all sounds so painful and gross, can you imagine going through that? And have strange people at the hosptal watch between your legs when you're naked? I dont hate kids or anything, I just genuinely dont ever feel the need to have kids. I guess I'm also somewhat egoistic because I have so many hobbies that I enjoy so much and I view a kid as a total waste of time, I need to draw, red, design typefaces, travel, i just crave it and I dont want anyone to take all of my precious time, life's too short.
But let me say something, I dont have a dog that I call "baby". Thats fucked up

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:27:54 2019 No.14249936 >>14249931 Plus my boyfriend is probably even more egoistic than me, he just always says kid is too much money and responsibility for him to handle.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:29:28 2019 No.14249943

>>14249931
Ok, but search your heart. You can be a good parents. You don't have to let the past dictate your future. Do you really want to grow old alone and not raise children? Children are great if you're not some selfish brat. The only people who complain about children are the most selfish. I'll let you in on a little secret. I make antinatalist meme threads every other day, but it's just a joke. Children are wonderful and I would consider everyone to seriously question why they don't want them if that's the case. Most of the time, they actually do.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:32:38 2019 No.14249956

>>14249878
>"most girls dream about a husband material"
and husband material isnt the same as stay-at-home husband.
dream husband material is an unrealistic fiction where the man is both a high-income earner, and a man who devotes plenty of time to the family/household
>throw in whatever other attributes you want, such as well-read, fit, humorous, etc

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:43:36 2019 No.14250003 Say what you want about women but men have always been the degenerate sex

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:46:05 2019 No.14250014 >>14249168 "Women" like you don't exist irl and it makes me dead inside is all

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:46:28 2019 No.14250017 File: 274 KB, 480x261, 1544151570643.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i want to rape! I WANT TO RAPE! I MUST RAPE!! RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:48:45 2019 No.14250028 >>14247023 Yes, this behavior is rare and aberrant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:48:55 2019 No.14250029 >>14247787 based and peterson pilled

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:01:32 2019 No.14250074

>>14247607
Let me reply to your idiotic questions too.
>If it was and women are now "free" from that, explain why 50 Shades of Grey is the best selling book ever among women?
Yes it was repressed you RETARDED LIAR. And it STILL IS. You only need to look at the way WOMEN ONLY are being punished for having casual sex with multiple partners, by men and also women, calling them "whores" for doing so. There IS NO BASIS for punishing WOMEN ONLY for having casual sex with multiple partners, other than to repress their sexuality, in order to keep the number of illegitimate children as low as possible the way men can still fuck as many women as they want. You could always present a RETARDED LIE, that men can not be called "whores" for having casual sex with multiple partners, because they were genetically programmed to do so, while women were not. That is BULLSHIT though, as women who have casual sex with multiple partners were genetically programmed to do so too, because there are ANOMALIES in nature. As for that CRAPPY book you mentioned, it is so popular because women NEED TO ADJUST to the sexual demands of modern men. After all, if a woman decides to "like" being a target of violent actions such as a man fucking her into her asshole or deep into her throat or beating her up a bit, it is FAR EASIER for her to have relationships with men.
>Explain why even now every field in STEM or philosophy is dominated by men
That is because women in STEM or philosophy become SEXUALLY REJECTED BY MEN as "feminist cunts" and drop out of society. After all, women need to have relationships to be able to have friends to post pictures of on their social media page, to be able to get some followers, to be able to get hired by someone. As NO ONE wants to be a friend of a woman who has no relationships, and NO ONE wants to follow a loser with no friends and NO ONE wants to hire a loser with no following. It is the law of the era of social media.
>and women who don't go on to be housewives become unhappy
WHAT A RIDICULOUS LIE. If the women who choose to stay home are slightly happier than women who do not, that is because work related stress is taking its toll. If you make a woman stay home even is she's got some talent, intellect and skills requiring something else than the household work to apply to the way that allows using the full capacity of those traits, she BECOMES MENTALLY ILL. This applies to about the 80-90% of the female population of the modern Homo Sapiens.
>In other words, stop playing the male feminist card. ...
Not sure if you are this retarded for real or if you are pretending to be, to invalidate the points of the poster you replied to. If you really are this retarded, I think I just wasted my time replying to you.

Just FYI. Not going to check any replies as there probably will be a herd of LYING FUCKHEADS trying to invalidate what I said with RETARDED LIES. Reading such retarded lies only makes me want to kill the idiots who presented them.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:08:28 2019 No.14250096

>>14250074
>WHAT A RIDICULOUS LIE. If the women who choose to stay home are slightly happier than women who do not, that is because work related stress is taking its toll. If you make a woman stay home even is she's got some talent, intellect and skills requiring something else than the household work to apply to the way that allows using the full capacity of those traits, she BECOMES MENTALLY ILL. This applies to about the 80-90% of the female population of the modern Homo Sapiens.
Bunch of nonsense. Male feminists are worse than women.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:16:23 2019 No.14250139 >>14247647 Only an Anglo could write that quote or think its profound.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:17:45 2019 No.14250145

>>14247787
>they found that in gender egalitarian societies (Scandinavian ones), gender differences in vocations were even more pronounced.
That is because the SEXUAL barriers still exist, in other words, men sexually ostracizing women who are into MEN'S fields of sciences, as "disgusting feminist cunts". This kind of behavior is even more prevalent when there is no excuse for women to INVADE men's territories anymore, such as the societal or cultural barriers.
>career females regretting not engaging in a relationship and starting a family
OF-FUCKING-COURSE they regret using their 20s in getting higher education and starting up their careers, as they realize that most men do not wish to fuck women in their 30s, not even men of that age and only a few older than that. BUT, that does not mean that these women, who have plenty of talent, intellect and skills to apply to something else than the household work, would've been any happier being chained in their homes sucking a dick, cooking, cleaning and breeding. On the contrary, they probably would've become MENTALLY ILL.

(Sorry my harsh language, but I have a working class background, degree on art/design and I never got to be part of the circles in my uni as I never get to be part of ANY circles because I am a sexually inactive person. Even highly educated people are complete fucking apes in the sense that they need to ostracize people who are sexually inactive/failed. Would you imagine?)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:21:34 2019 No.14250163 >>14250017 I dont hate girls but I want a gf who loves to be a subby little slave!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:23:12 2019 No.14250171 >>14246175 Middlemarch Anna Karenina

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:24:57 2019 No.14250178

>>14250096
>Bunch of nonsense.
Yeah, and you are a RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT, not being able to come up with anything else but this LOW EFFORT, BLATANT LIE you can shove up into your filthy ass where it came from.

(As a matter of fact you are a CRIMINAL, presenting the lie you just presented. I mean, you know it very well that what I said is the truth, but you want to DENY it by presenting a lie that the truth I presented is "bunch of nonsense" just to be able to push you agenda, that women should stay home so that your kind could get some young pussy too. You
GIVE A SHIT about the fact that making women stay home would make them mentally ill and also prone to violence. You still want that to happen for your OWN SAKE. That makes you a full blown PSYCHOPATH.)

Bye.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:24:59 2019 No.14250180 >>14246194 I wouldnt really worry about it its not like women ever liked men either

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:27:33 2019 No.14250191 File: 116 KB, 680x680, really.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14250178

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:35:54 2019 No.14250241 >>14249168 America is a continental ghetto

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:43:17 2019 No.14250282 >>14249494 I can tell you don't live in Britain or on the american coasts

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:44:47 2019 No.14250291 File: 66 KB, 500x731, big-dingus-wojak-mask-www-picswe-com-50724157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14250178

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:48:48 2019 No.14250311

>>14250145
>"This kind of behavior is even more prevalent when there is no excuse for women to INVADE men's territories anymore, such as the societal or cultural barriers."
i dont know how you reconcile even more pronounced differences with egalitarian measures taken to lessen "muh sexism"
>your perfect utopia is always one execution away
>"well, you see, no TRUE Scotsman prefers malt liquor over whiskey"
economic prosperity, generous safety nets, social welfare, decreased sexist attitudes, and a myriad of other measures taken up by the Scandinavian countries
>"well, i could become a computer engineer, but its not like im hurting for the money. social welfare allows me to pursue other occupations without having to stress about healthcare, etc."
>"also there are plenty of grants and education subsidies designed to incentivize female enrollment in the computer sciences. in fact, my arbitrary sex gives me a slight advantage."
>"but all that being said, im much more interested in teaching. its where my interest lies. how many money do you really need anyway? is it worth the extra hours? the grueling work? is it worth forcing myself into a field i dont like? wasnt there some study that showed after an income of 75k, more money wasnt associated with more happiness? isnt there something like decreasing marginal returns?"
>"i think ill become a teacher"

>"BUT, that does not mean that these women, who have plenty of talent, intellect and skills to apply to something else than the household work, would've been any happier being chained in their homes sucking a dick, cooking, cleaning and breeding."
this is true. dissatisfaction with one thing doesnt inherently mean satisfaction with another.
but its strongly implied when these polled career whamen speak about "what ifs" in regards to family life.

>" never got to be part of the circles in my uni as I never get to be part of ANY circles because I am a sexually inactive person"
you just sound like an asshole. im not sure your sexual activity has anything with you being shunned.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:53:05 2019 No.14250328 >>14250074 >women in STEM or philosophy become SEXUALLY REJECTED BY MEN as "feminist cunts" and drop out of society. lol where are these homeless slacker women youre talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:59:31 2019 No.14250351 >>14247121 i have the same kind of gf she is better than most girls but still has those annoying feats time to time like other women

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 22:59:59 2019 No.14250353 >>14249404 >society agreeing >theres a discussion

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:00:59 2019 No.14250360 >>14246194 Very carefully

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:04:13 2019 No.14250377 >>14246175 How come the reflection of the person taking the picture doesn't show up on the window?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:05:08 2019 No.14250382 >all these retarded incels ITT who think Humans are monogamous after citing study after study of humanity clearly not being monogamous

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:07:29 2019 No.14250395 >>14250382 Humans are also innately violent and sociopathic. Should we start butchering everyone we see? Appeals to nature are shit arguments, pal. You're not as smart as you think you are.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:08:50 2019 No.14250404

>>14247782
I am sorry but you are stupid.The sole reason the western culture was the most dominant and successful one is because of its cultural dogmas even before Christianity.Which includes morality and family values.Women being sluts is literally against every achievement that western culture has accomplished since its antiquity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:10:15 2019 No.14250410 >>14248847 I dont hate women since its a strong word.I just dislike sluts but i definitely hate the beta cucks that enable those fucking sluts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:11:02 2019 No.14250412 >>14250282 Britain isn't like that

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:11:03 2019 No.14250413

>>14246175
imagine if that was your sister. i say this to everyone who tells me about how it's ok for women to suck cum, eat men's asses, etc. basically do anything besides missionary sex for the sole purpose of reproduction or passionate tender sex at the very least. think about it if you have a good relationship with your sister, mom, whatever female you're close to in your family in a not sexual way. imagine them sucking the cum out of some guy's dick as he slaps them. imagine them getting abused by some guy who spunks on their face and grabs their tits. are you ok with this? could you look them in the face when thinking about this and not cringe? that is the heart of the matter. if not, you are a hypocrite. cope all you want

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:16:45 2019 No.14250445

>>14250395
>innately violent and sociopathic
no were not
dissafected humans who live in civilization are antisocial and displace aggression on other people
if you try to act antisocial in a bone in nose spear chucker tribe, youre getting a spear chucked into your chest
>should we butcher everyone else
oh yes, because society is completely devoid of homici- oh wait, there hasnt been a single civilization without war and currently were bombing 9 different countries at once and supporting countries like turkey that chop tits off women and celebrate dragging people out of cars and shooting them

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:18:27 2019 No.14250454 >>14249878 what made you attracted to your bf? asking notes to get a girl like you.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:21:11 2019 No.14250468

>>14250445
Yes, we are. The natural state of man is brutal. Civilization has its ills, but it tames man. When someone establishes a monopoly on violence, it prevents the other chimps from acting out their violence. Nothing prevents you from gathering a few chimps and waging war against other chimps in earlier times. That is much harder to do against states with armies. Violence was always right around the corner. You can't say it is today unless you live in the ghetto.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:21:12 2019 No.14250469 >>14250445 Turkey isnt really like that and despite having problems it is not what most people think it is on 4chan.Probably safer than a continental ghetto shithole like US of ASS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:21:29 2019 No.14250470 >>14249339 expand on this please? why the us?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:22:41 2019 No.14250473 >>14249339 cope the usa is exporting its culture (feminism and "human rights" aka right to be a degenerate especially) everywhere lol

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:25:03 2019 No.14250483

>>14250145
I'm none of the guys you responded to, but this fucking writing style makes me retch. How the fuck can you write like such an estrogen-poisoned bitch with a straight face? Sometimes I think people like you only exist in sojak shitposts, but it would seem that truth is just as strange as fiction.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:26:21 2019 No.14250490

>>14250468
>natural state of man is brutal
where are these bloodthirsty hunter gatherers?
right, they dont exist
you want to order women's sexuality around the same way states order people to kill other people and youre impotently frustrated you cant

>>14250469
thats what turkey is doing in syria

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:29:38 2019 No.14250512 >>14250490 >that chop tits off women Post a legitimate source on that or i will just disregard your bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:31:44 2019 No.14250517 >>14250490 You're very naive or baiting. Have you grown up around people? Are you sheltered?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:32:14 2019 No.14250520 File: 39 KB, 645x503, 1454191371025.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14250413 you're a funny guy, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:36:06 2019 No.14250532 >>14250520 not an answer

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:38:02 2019 No.14250540 >>14250490 >thats what turkey is doing in syria oh look it's one of the trannies butthurt about muh rojava

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:40:19 2019 No.14250546 >>14250512 https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/23/syria-violence-npw-pkg-vpx.cnn

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:41:40 2019 No.14250550 >>14250546 >CNN >Turkish-allied forces okay

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:41:45 2019 No.14250551 >>14250546 every side in syria commits violence you fucking moron yes even your beloved k*rds

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:41:59 2019 No.14250553 >>14250517 >"women are whores for having sexual agency" >calling other people sheltered stay booty blasted you cant have sex incel

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:43:13 2019 No.14250561 >>14250550 >>14250551 didnt know there were this many roaches on /lit/

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:46:25 2019 No.14250570

>>14250553
That's not what I said at all. If it makes you feel any better, I don't defend promiscuity among men either. I'm not advocating for some forced arranged marriage ordeal. It's funny that your only argument is muh sex. Isn't that a form of monopoly? Restricting access to holes based on beliefs? Sex is inherently a violent game. I'm glad you agree with me. Are you the same guy that said he wants to kill people for disagreeing with him in this thread? You sound exactly like him. So much for being a peace loving natural. No more (you)s for you. Don't bother replying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:47:02 2019 No.14250573 >>14250561 >being this delusional to believe in globalist propaganda from CNN out of all places and calling others roaches for disagreeing

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:48:37 2019 No.14250579 >>14250561 rojavafags are peak cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:50:20 2019 No.14250585 >>14250570 >Sex is inherently a violent game

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:18:40 2019 No.14250698 >>14249496 This is wrong. It's not that men's assets gets split up, but assets acquired by both husband and wife combined during marriage is split up equally

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:21:11 2019 No.14250711 >>14250698 not in america and assets "acquired by both" are also defined very vaguely so all the bread the husband makes during the marriage applies for the women as well, even if she just rots at home because she is "contributing" to the household

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:38:42 2019 No.14250775 >>14250711 Not even in America. The law varies by states, but the ones that splits up property, they do it because assets acquired during marriage is the property of both. So wife's share gets the axe too if she contributed

Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:59:23 2019 No.14250842
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>>14250775
yeah but in most circumstances, the male's contribution outweighs the female's.
>f has 10
>m has 90
>f gets 10+40 = 50
>m gets 90-40=50

i get where OP is coming from. clarity is better. but anyone with half a brain and who followed the conversation could understand what i meant.
>"well, you see, technically" <said in a nasally voice, while tilting your glasses up>

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 01:00:34 2019 No.14250846 >>14246175 books aren't what you need, if you want to understand women cut your dick off and get a lobotomy, then you'll be like them

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 01:01:39 2019 No.14250853 >>14246341 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 01:21:41 2019 No.14250917 >>14246784 the bark on the trees was as soft as the skies

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 02:34:34 2019 No.14251167 >>14246180 fpbp

Anonymous Thu Nov 28 04:08:58 2019 No.14251390

>>14246220
I think I am too like I can't stand some of the shit they do but have never had any dating issues even though I am blatant mentally ill French nationalist. My first gf was this super liberal Hungarian girl who wouldn't even give a fuck if I called someone a "négre" in their face. They just follow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 04:56:23 2019 No.14251488 >>14249208 Based.

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