/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.14245000]

Thanksgiving Edition
What book and/or author are you thankful for having discovered this year?

Monthly Reading, November: Let The Right One In
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Previous Threads
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>>14207535
>>14192370
>>14172604

[Anonymous No.14245011]

first for sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.14245014]

>>14245000
>tfw I haven't discovered a single good author all year

[Anonymous No.14245071]

I believe BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish. My reason for believing this is because I have a foot fetish so I pick up on things most humans do not. Take for instance the ever shitty House of Cards. Now, I do not like this show (House of Cards) but I did sit through 4 seasons of that crap hoping it would get better, and in that time I noticed numerous examples of blatant foot fan service. It is a good fetish to pander to because it occupies a gray area due to the lack of nudity, which is why its perfect for a guy like BRANDON SANDERSON. Reading Mistborn, I can't help but notice how many times we are reminded of Vin's cute bare footedness. She's barefoot on the roof, toes clutching the edge. She's barefoot on cobblestone, only to walk on marble. Vin walked to his bed BAREFOOT, making no sound. Of course the obvious explanation (for the mundane majority of men) is that Vin is a Mistborn -- a thief -- and strives to remain quiet. She has to make lots of sacrifices due to the magneto magic of BRANDON SANDERSON'S world, such as never wearing toe rings or anklets (unless they are wooden or something) but I do not believe this is the sole reason for the foot prose on display in these books. The author (BRANDON SANDERSON) has fueled my spirit with his depiction of Vin. I have a hard time getting through the pages when I keep seeing examples of her beautiful foot-based dexterity, yet its these very passages that push me further on. I see visions of Vin toying with Elend, giving her man a royal footjob that any king would crave with her expertly trained toes. I think about Vin embarrassed, painting her toe nails to match her dress while Zane watches from the window. I think about her wearing glass slippers to show off her new feminine toes at the balls! Oh what a sight to behold! I am not even on the third book so I can't begin to imagine how much footy goodness is still to come. Anyway, these are my reasons for suspecting BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish.

[Anonymous No.14245110]

We're closing in on the deadline, discussion will happen sometime during the weekend depending on thread timing.

[Anonymous No.14245120]

>>14245110
i watched the movie so im good

[Anonymous No.14245123]

Finished Urth of the New Sun. Good but very confusing. The people in the last part who consider Sevarian and the other 3 to be gods arrived on Urth/Ushas which suggests they flew/were flown in. If they flew in then why are they so primitive and if they were flown in why did someone fly them to Urth? Did the flood kill every single person except the 4? And the time travel stuff with Sevarian being a copy of himself because he died multiple times was odd.

[Anonymous No.14245169]

>>14245120
Original movie or the American one?

[Anonymous No.14245195]

>>14245169
original

[Anonymous No.14245217]

>>14245195
While the book is (obviously) more complex and developed the movie does such a good job with characters and most importantly the atmosphere that I'm inclined to agree that you're good.

[Anonymous No.14245317]

>>14245123
at the end of chapter XLII it's said Juturna has seen the people be landed on Urth, “Sh-she s-says,” the young officer stammered, “that certain cacogens have landed a man and a woman from one of their ships.” I think it's helpful to reread Talos's play since it's about this event in particular. Meschia and Meschiane are implied to be created as full grown adults to populate the new Urth after the coming of the New Sun. I imagine more people survived since Eata did just by being on a ship at the time. It could be the hierodules took crew from the ship and wiped their memories. As for why they should be primitive, my guess is that it's supposed to be a fresh start for Urth/Humanity so the past is not relevant.

[Anonymous No.14245331]

thoughts on pic? planning to read this next. im aware the author passed so I'll probably never know the answer to this but do you think it's secretly sci-fi?

[Anonymous No.14245349]

I am thankful for discovering Harrison

[Anonymous No.14245351]

>>14245349
was it about

[Anonymous No.14245644]

>>14245331
What are they feeding these things?

[Anonymous No.14245842]

>>14245351
yes

[Anonymous No.14245888]

>>14245123
i want to read this but im afraid this will ruin book of the new sun for me, which are my absolute favorite books

[Anonymous No.14245925]

I don't read this kind of book usually but my irl friend saw me reading and suggested me a couple fantasy books

The Name of the Wind and Skyward

Are they sffg approved and which one should I read

[Anonymous No.14245978]

>>14245925
Avoid The Name of the Wind at all cost. It's basically the definition of a polished turd (the author spent like 10 years editing the book before he was published) and the quality drops drastically in the second book. The third book is getting the GRRM treatment and it's doubtful if it will ever be released.

[Anonymous No.14246005]

>that fag who made a Goodreads account only to get into the group
>those other fags who aren't currently reading anything

[Anonymous No.14246017]

>>14245110
This is interesting. I like this idea!
I haven't read it but i'll drop in to see what next month's book is

[Anonymous No.14246039]

>>14246005
>finished my book a couple of hours ago
>immediately ridiculed for not reading by some idiot on 4chan

[Anonymous No.14246050]

>>14246005
I don't do currently reading anymore. I just put in my reviews when I'm done.

[Anonymous No.14246170]

Anyone else subscribed to The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction?
They publish the best sff short fiction:
https://www.sfsite.com/fsf/

[Anonymous No.14246269]

>>14246170
No, the stories don't hook me like those in Asimovs.
To me, there is a quality gap between them.

[Anonymous No.14246326]

Are there any books with barbarians as based as conan?
Not 'good' barbarians, but the old barbarian steoreotype, a pillaging brute, but not retarded, and not overly evil.

[Anonymous No.14246370]

>>14245888
Read urth, it answers some questions and didn't ruin anything. Also read long and short. There are parts of long as good as new, but short is really incredible pretty much the whole way through. Long is fairly straightforward, short is, among other things, a story about identity.

[Anonymous No.14246385]

>>14246170
Yes, I am, digitally. I am have all my issues backed up in calibre. I haven't got around to reading the current issue.

[Anonymous No.14246422]

Looking for a fiction book, it can be scifi or fantasy.
But what i want is
>protagonist live in a terrible world where they can die any day and they are in a gruesome disavantage
Kinda like Shingeki No Kyoujin, yeah i know anime, but i like the premise.

[Anonymous No.14246428]

>>14246422
>Shingeki No Kyoujin
That's a rip-off of Muv-Luv Alternative so just read that.

[Anonymous No.14246439]

When is someone making a litrpg chart?

[Anonymous No.14246443]

>>14246428
Already read that as well, i am more interested on a western take on the
>holy shit we are fucked
premise

[Anonymous No.14246451]

>>14245071

Well, that's something I didn't know I didn't want to know.

[Anonymous No.14246461]

>>14246443
Muv-Luv is a rip-off of Starship Troopers (the movie) so just watch that

[Anonymous No.14246481]

>>14246443
>>14246461
It really is, by the way. They even copied its soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEXATrKzt9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gjdrbc_jf0

[Anonymous No.14246484]

>>14246461
is it good?

[Anonymous No.14246496]

>>14246484
Yes muv luv alternate is even better too

[Anonymous No.14246505]

>>14245000
Any books starring catboys?

[Anonymous No.14246509]

>>14246484
Yes. It's not a straight adaptation of the book, but it's a well made satire and action movie. If you've read Muv-Luv you'll notice a lot of similar beats to the story: protagonist starts as stupid dumbass in carefree high schoo settingl, goes into the military with his friends to fight the alien bugs (who end up destroying his hometown), he gradually becomes a hardened soldier, his old teacher is his military commander, there are people who have psychic powers (Yashiro), a bug kills someone by sucking their brain out of their head (kind of like Marimo), love triangle romance kind-of, etc. etc. And like I said there's proof the people that made Muv-Luv watched it since the soundtrack rips it of too >>14246481.

[Anonymous No.14246518]

>>14246509
And I guess the bugs eating people's brains fits with a certain other character in Muv-Luv too doesn't it? Also the bugs live in these hive locations too. I'm sure there's more but I haven't watched it in a while.

[Anonymous No.14246673]

>>14246505
catboys don't exist

[Anonymous No.14246681]

>>14246422
Shades of Grey - Fforde

[Anonymous No.14246688]

>>14246505
Lamento: Beyond the Void

[Anonymous No.14246720]

>>14246505
do your own fetish search u degenerate

[Anonymous No.14246740]

>>14246326
Malazan, obviously.

[Anonymous No.14246748]

>>14246326
So, Vikings.

[Anonymous No.14246757]

>>14246326
>>14246740
The first part of House of Chains especially.

[Anonymous No.14246850]

>>14246439
I'm more interested in a Xianxia chart.
I'm starting to suspect though that the genre doesn't have much to offer.

[Anonymous No.14246871]

>>14246439
There is already a shitrpg chart.

[Anonymous No.14246918]

>>14245349
I'm in the middle of my reread of Light. Not sure if I should read the sequel next or Viriconium

[Anonymous No.14246923]

>>14245071
Austism: The Post

[Anonymous No.14246941]

All books of Joe Abercrombie are breddy gud. Actually a lot more red pilled than most fantasy.

[Anonymous No.14246948]

Has anyone ever read NK Jameson? She won the Nebula award for the Obelisk Gate. Wasnt sure if that was a legit award or just because of muh strong black women

[Anonymous No.14246959]

>>14245925
Get some friends with actual taste, Rothfuss is the lowest pleb tier possible.

[Anonymous No.14246965]

>>14246948
The latter

[Anonymous No.14247083]

>>14246948
Very much the latter

[Anonymous No.14247095]

>>14246965
>>14247083
Bigotry is not cool. /sffg/ can do better than this.

[Anonymous No.14247098]

>>14247095
It's called racism, bigotry I leave for sexual orientation. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.14247111]

>>14247095
Go fuck off and read her next book about a bunch of multiracial trans disabled teens dabbing on lovecraft and never come back.

[Anonymous No.14247274]

>>14247095
The Fifth Season was execrable. I regret reading it.

[Anonymous No.14247281]

>>14247274
You regret it because the loli wasn't lewded enough.

[Anonymous No.14247295]

>>14247281
That would be even worse

[Anonymous No.14247307]

>>14247095
You must be new to /sffg/ and 4ch in general. It really can't do better these days.

[Anonymous No.14247366]

>>14245888
I wouldn't say ruined is a good word. If you were 100% content with the way new sun ended then possibly stay away. It answers some questions left unanswered and has some enlightening moments. The finer points are more confusing than botns thanks to copious amounts of time travel. You still have a clear picture of the overall story, but connecting all the dots can be a headache

[Anonymous No.14247422]

>>14246673
This is the fantasy general retard

[Anonymous No.14247483]

>>14247422
It's just a general sentiment fren

[Anonymous No.14247586]

>>14247366
>>14245888
Pretty much everything in Urth is foreshadowed in the first 4 books. Everything explained is replaced by new questions though. It definitely had a different feeling to it, but that has more to do with what happened to Severian between writing New Sun and Urth.

[Anonymous No.14247655]

>>14247281
what are some books with lolis?

[Anonymous No.14247792]

Is there something you want to say to me, /sffg/? Go on. I’m right here.

[Anonymous No.14247874]

>>14246923
New

[Anonymous No.14247887]

>>14247792

I... I watched your youtube lectures on how to be a better writer. Now Ive written a book.

...

Its all your fault sanderson. Im the mother and you are the father of this abomination of words

[Anonymous No.14247895]

>>14247655

Reject materialism and come closer to god with the help of the ascendant of MAN Lord Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.14247905]

>>14247895
Based and christpilled

[Anonymous No.14247933]

>>14247792
you look like you have down syndrome sanderson.

[Anonymous No.14247943]

Muv-Luv is hot fucking garbage. It should only be read if:
>it is your first VN
AND/OR
>you like waifus

[Anonymous No.14248061]

Are the Witcher books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.14248517]

>>14248061
I thought the first one was a pretty good read.
The short stories are a sensible choice for the structure for the plot and the setting and characters are interesting.

If you enjoyed the games you will most likely enjoy it too.

[Anonymous No.14248597]

>>14245331
Its fucking garbage and so are the two sequels

[Anonymous No.14248610]

>>14248061
No

[Anonymous No.14249047]

>>14247943
What shit is that?

[Anonymous No.14249055]

[Anonymous No.14249111]

>>14248061
Absolutely not.

Oh sorry, I thought you asked about BotNS.

[Anonymous No.14249511]

Xianxia is just repackaged Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.14249516]

>>14244965
You're not wrong that Lucas' conception of the Jedi changed between the OT and PT, but I think it was very deliberate and crucial to understanding the prequels. The pre-fall Jedi are portrayed as flawed and foolish, architects of their own destruction. Their stately integration into the high society and politics of the Republic is brings on disaster as their worst enemy first achieves political power and begins to command them as he sees fit, and then openly destroys them without them having the slightest idea of what was coming until thirty minutes before it happens, when Palpatine literally tells the Jedi the truth himself. They were blind and foolish, they made themselves a warrior elite and they got trashed for it. They fell out of touch with the Force and paid the price.

The survivors revert to a more primitive but also more virtuous lifestyle. They're knights-errant, ronin, wandering penitents doing good. That's why they ultimately turn the tables on the emperor -- not because of their status or their religious dogma or their success in training Luke (he consents to be trained, but is a bad student who responds to Yoda's teaching with at first petulance and disobedience, later reasoned and principled refusal to cooperate) but because one of them did a good deed for a lowly person in need and it turned out forging a connection between him and the space messiah.

Luke setting the Jedi religious/intellectual/warrior elite establishment back up destroys that message. It's fucked.

[Anonymous No.14249550]

>>14249511
Uh they are daoists first off...
And it’s fantastical martial arts practitioners
It’s like DBz in webnovel form, and the protag is freezer

[Anonymous No.14249566]

Stars wars fags need to go to /tv/

[Anonymous No.14249570]

>>14249516
>Luke setting the Jedi religious/intellectual/warrior elite establishment back up destroys that message. It's fucked.
Alternately, and a bit Devil's Advocate-y, I can almost believe that this was done deliberately. As if the whole thing is something of a cycle where the Jedi have to learn again and again that they ought not to try and set up said warrior elite establishment, even if, to the most idealistic among them, having one around to help lead/guard society sounds like a good thing.

But then, I don't think the writers are even smart enough for that shitty idea

[Anonymous No.14250082]

Wtf? We have ads now?
"You won't last 5 minutes playing this game".
And they show a milf pretending to be pure....
Any books where older women pretend like they are pure? I think I found a new fetish.

[Anonymous No.14250100]

>>14245317
This is probably Wolfe's commentary on whether Noah and his boat were literally the only survivors of the Great Flood btw.

[Anonymous No.14250121]

>>14246948
The Fifth Season looked promising but she's doubled down on being Designated Black SF Woman and her work has declined from it's not-amazing peak.

[Anonymous No.14250148]

>>14247586
The difference in perspective is jarring at first, until you start to piece together Severian's life between the two books. I think the thing for me was that it read like an appendix, which kept it from being a lesser sequel and more of a supplement bridging gaps you didn't always know were there. I don't know if I can agree that it posed many new questions, but it's been a while since I read it and I'm still trying to process 5HC years later.

[Anonymous No.14250352]

>>14248061
Yes. They are really good.

[Anonymous No.14250526]

lol this author is the absolute king of unintentional comedy, I was crying at how he sets this one's plot into motion
>>14248061
The short story collections are good the novels depend entirely on your tolerance for the plots being set into motion by kid Ciri being dumb

[Anonymous No.14250565]

>>14250526
That any good? Kings Dark Tidings was alright. Nothing special but entertaining. Is this the same?

[Anonymous No.14250581]

>>14250565
Dunno yet, he's laying it on pretty thick with the theme right now but there's not been much action in the first two chapters.
Tbf if the whole book just exists to justify writing the opening twist/turn of this I'll forgive him for it. Highly recommend reading that far without looking at any spoilers at all but I'll see if the whole "this ain't your usual fantasy novel about prophecy" gets old by the end

[Anonymous No.14250594]

>>14250581
Well i've only read the book blurb so far. That being said a book where the adventurers just say "fuck it" and not go fight that ancient evil would be a novel idea actually. At least the empire makes the trains run on time.

[Anonymous No.14251027]

>>14246948
Nebula can hardly be seen as a legit award. However Jemisin is one of their best picks in quite a long time. She was actually only nominated for The Obelisk Gate, but compared to the book that won, All the Birds in the Sky, The Obelisk Gate a literary masterpiece. Compared to an actual masterpiece, it's average.

[Anonymous No.14251036]

>>14251027
Now that i think about it is any literary award worth anything nowadays? Even the hugo awards feel like they don't mean jack shit.

[Anonymous No.14251054]

>>14251036
Not really. However they were not to good back in the day either, so it's not to much of a loss.

[Anonymous No.14251068]

>>14247792
>I see Singapore Deputy PM Heng Swee Keat
>Am reminded of Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.14251075]

>>14248061
No.

[Anonymous No.14251083]

>>14251068
Branchung Sangchunsen?

[Anonymous No.14251342]

>>14248061
They're okay. Ciri is a pain in the arse especially after she goes off on her own. Geralt's roadtrip is based and the Battle of Brenna was brilliant.

[Anonymous No.14251725]

>>14248061
Yes. I really enjoyed them. If you enjoyed the games, then chances are good that you'll like the books.

[Anonymous No.14251791]

Do you appreciate it when books give you a quick rundown on a new fantasy town/city before it's explored by the characters, or do you want the narrative to take you in there and find out things in real time?

I think the issue with fantasy is that a setting can be so bizzare that it's tempting to do some telling so the audience can actually get a descriptive picture of the place in their mind before the narrative takes you inside, but this can result in an exposition dump rather than a more natural experiencing of the place.

[Anonymous No.14251808]

>>14251791
I always find myself skipping exposition dumps that go beyond three or four sentences.

[Anonymous No.14251829]

>>14248061
The english translation is pretty bland, luckily the finnish translations are excellent

[Anonymous No.14251867]

>>14251808
So if you get right into the point of view of a character in a new place without any explanation you don't feel ungrounded?

[Anonymous No.14251881]

>>14251867
No. Writers should hide the exposition behind the actually exciting stuff. If the setting is a dystopian city of big corporations and hackers and Japanese noodle bars I expect to learn that by reading between the lines, not by the author straight up telling me that word for word.

[Anonymous No.14251927]

>>14251867
If you're going to dump exposition, then make it obvious where it starts and where it ends in your page structure because most people are just going to either skim it, or skip it completely. Infodumping is only interesting when the info itself is interesting.

[Anonymous No.14252304]

>>14251867
Never hand hold readers and spray your pre-ejaculate in their face. A place is more exciting when you show it, not just blab about how cool this town is.

[Anonymous No.14252483]

>>14251881
>>14251927
>>14252304

Thanks lads. It looks like I'll have to think more carefully about the intro. The POV character is a little slow to start diving into the main setting because of the nature of the plot in the first few chapters, so the temptation is there to describe a bit what's due to come. I'll probably work more showing material into conversation and character thoughts about the place while they're still detatched from it.

[Anonymous No.14252562]

>>14252483
Don't worry, you'll book will probably be shit anyway.

[Anonymous No.14252583]

>>14252562
No matter how great anything is, there will always be those hate it. It's all just a matter of finding an audience who appreciates the work and then using social pressure to convince others that it's worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.14252628]

>>14252562
Bit rude

[Anonymous No.14252640]

Group is now at 30 members.

[Anonymous No.14252850]

>>14252583
>then using social pressure to convince others that it's worthwhile.
Never worked for me. Lotr is still shit.

[Anonymous No.14252858]

>>14252640
Lucky thing you have to willingly want to enter that group.

[Anonymous No.14253174]

>>14249055
>Perdido Street Station

Good god, I forgot it's been almost 20 years since its publication.

[Anonymous No.14253181]

>>14248061
As anon from >>14251829 commented their English translation is horrendously dry and generic. Read them in literally any other language if you can, preferably Slavic.

[Anonymous No.14253208]

>>14246941

[Anonymous No.14253233]

>>14252483
Nobody fucking cares. Epstein yourself.

[Anonymous No.14253251]

>>14252483
>The POV character is a little slow to start diving into the main setting
|:)

[Anonymous No.14253253]

>>14250082
Masters of Rome and I, Claudius
If This goes on--
Cyteen
The Snow Queen by Joan Vinge
and stop watching porn

[Anonymous No.14253278]

>>14253253
>and stop watching porn

[Anonymous No.14253309]

>>14253233
Nobody cares that you don't care :^)

[Anonymous No.14253334]

>>14253233
you cared enough to reply to a casual comment 2 hours later you edgy zoomer

[Anonymous No.14253415]

>>14253309
>>14253334
Turns out we all care more than we're willing to admit

[Anonymous No.14253454]

>>14253233
>Epstein yourself.
So, have an assassin kill me, and make it look like I did it by myself?

[Anonymous No.14253835]

Reminder to report the off topic christcucks and philosofag threads that are pushing us to page 8.

[Anonymous No.14254009]

I need some recommendations. I've recently started reading into thrillers specifically thrillers with a good sci-fi or magic bent, like the Joe Ledger series by Jonathan Maberry Chess Team by Jeremy Robinson and Killfile by Christopher Farnsworth. Can you guys recommend other series or authors in that ballpark? Or even other thrillers that are particularly good.

[Anonymous No.14254129]

>>14251808
Thats why I like Grim Dark, which seems to have almost no exposition and deep PoV. Joe Abercrombie is the master of this:

[Anonymous No.14254167]

>The young messenger from Moneo cleared her throat to awaken Idaho from his reverie. "What response shall I return to Moneo?" she asked.
>Idaho focused on her face. "Would you like me to impregnate you?" he asked.
>"Commander!" She was obviously shocked not so much by his suggestion as by its 'non sequitur' intrusion.
>"Ahhh, yes," Idaho said. "Moneo. What shall we tell Moneo?"
>"He awaits your reply, Commander."
>"Is there really any point in my responding?" Idaho asked.
>"Moneo told me to inform you that he wishes to confer with both you and the Lady Hwi together."
>Idaho sensed a vague arousal of interest. "Hwi is with him?"
>"She has been summoned, Commander." The messenger cleared her throat once more. "Would the Commander wish me to visit him here later tonight?"
>"No. Thank you anyway. I've changed my mind."
>He thought she concealed her disappointment well, but her voice came out stiffly formal: "Shall I say that you will attend Moneo?"

>tfw you will never live among a legion of sexually frustrated amazons who worship you as the metaphorical genitals of their god
Any books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.14254184]

>>14254167
you gotta tell me where this is from and ill tell you the exact book for you.

[Anonymous No.14254524]

>>14254184
It's not gonna be what you expect it to be, but Dune.

[Anonymous No.14254532]

>Play Dungeons & Dragons
>I am DM
>Players are all new
>After a few sessions, one player enjoys it so much he starts writing recaps from his characters' point of view
>Feels good as DM

It is cool that the game inspired him. Less than half a session turned into about six dense pages. I'm starting to understand why several fantasy novels started out as roleplaying games (Malazan, Dragonlance etc). Have any of you nerds ever wanted to turn a game into a novel?

[Anonymous No.14254724]

>>14254532
there is a whole genre that does that called litrpg. for the most part is pretty bad though full of amateurs and stat spreadsheets spanning multiple pages every chapter. what you want is classified as gamelit, those are novels in game like environments or worlds but without the constant spread sheets or level up notifications.
litrpg and game-lit are getting increasingly popular. good example of the litrpg genre are hugo huesca's the wraiths hunt series and andrew seiple's threadbare series. be warned though. the genre is littered with extremes. the books are either decent or dogshit. there is no in-between.

[Anonymous No.14254931]

>>14254524
>Brian
kek

[Anonymous No.14254939]

Sanderhack a hack

[Anonymous No.14254969]

>>14254939
stop shitposting about sanderlad and start reading Lord Dunsany

[Anonymous No.14255092]

Why are all new books so tame?
What happen to the days of rape and pillaging?
All we have are PG13 shit.

[Anonymous No.14255096]

>>14254969
More like Lord DunsaZzzzzzz

[Anonymous No.14255113]

>>14255092
Publishers don’t want to get #canceled

[Anonymous No.14255124]

>>14255092
Degeneracy sux

[Anonymous No.14255158]

>>14255092
>What happen to the days of rape and pillaging?
Last part of the second apocalypse hopefully soon.

[Anonymous No.14255198]

>>14255158
>he doesn’t know
Anon...orbit publishing dropped Bakker....
He’s off larping as a carpenter now

[Anonymous No.14255201]

>>14255198
What??
Say it ain't so.
Reee

[Anonymous No.14255349]

>>14245000
Ted Chiang. He needs to live longer and take his sweet time and publish more

[Anonymous No.14255360]

>>14255198
Why did they drop him?

[Anonymous No.14255366]

>>14245888
first of all congrats on your digits
in my opinion, I wish I hadn't read urth, I feel like it kind of ruined everything that I liked about the ambiguity of the end of citadel which was such a perfect ending to me

[Anonymous No.14255590]

>>14255360
Because TUC didn’t do well enough for them to keep publishing his problematic content

[Anonymous No.14255605]

Should I read Conan in published, written or chronological order?

[Anonymous No.14255632]

What's a book or series where the guy actually gets the girl at the end? The Inheritance Cycle just wasted a lot of my time.

[Anonymous No.14255643]

>>14255632
You really should have noticed it was wasting your time around the point where Uncle Owen got killed by Stormtroopers.

[Anonymous No.14256041]

F|T|G|N
A|H|I|O
I|R|V|H
L|E|EO
E|A|U|P
D|D|P|E

[Anonymous No.14256616]

where should i start with greg egan?

[Anonymous No.14256642]

>>14255632

John Carter, and then when other dudes who aren't John Carter become the protagonist they get the girl in the end too

[Anonymous No.14256683]

>>14256616
axiomatic (collection, not the short story itself but it is included)

[Anonymous No.14256855]

>>14255605
Published or written.

[Anonymous No.14256863]

>>14255632
>The Inheritance Cycle
>reading Eragon
Are you 12? Or retarded or something?

[Anonymous No.14257009]

>reading Sword of the Lictor
>climactic confrontation with Typhon
>oh boy, this will definitely lead to some interesting developments
>ends with a punch to the face
If there's one thing that irks me about The book of the new sun, as much as I find parts of it interesting, It's that Wolfe always ends all the interesting shit with these dull anticlimaxes. He pulled the same shit with little Severian's death, too. Like, what was even the point?

[Anonymous No.14257611]

>there's one white male author in the Goodreads Fantasy list
>it's GRRM
lol

[Anonymous No.14257616]

>>14257009

Baldanders fight was pretty good though so was the arena fight with the plant

[Anonymous No.14257627]

>>14257611
No one cares?

[Anonymous No.14257632]

>>14257611
Why would you take reading advice from a controlled mob. Everyone knows Tolkien is the master, they delude themselves because it's fashionable

[Anonymous No.14257633]

What are some recommended coomer fantasy series?

[Anonymous No.14257644]

>>14254009
Not really SFFG material, but if you're after some pulpy thrillers, you could always try the Jack Reacher series. There were two films made with Tom Cruise, the first one was good, the second not so much. There's 24 novels but they're stand alones. The only one which I have read that stood out as particularly bad was the second novel, partly because it's dated, which was written in the 90's, the villain of it is played as a paranoid loon, because he thinks the government has GPS trackers in cars, cell phones, and is engaging in mass surveillance of citizens...

But other than time proving the bad guy of the second book right, they're pretty decent light reading.

[Anonymous No.14257652]

>>14254009
I gave up on reading thrillers every nearly every book I picked up had the same problem
>first chapter amazing
>second chapter worse
>by the middle it's dogshit
And I don't just mean the story, even the writing quality in most cases just fucking dives off a cliff. Most commercial novels seem to have more effort put into the first chapter than the entire remaining 95% of the book.

[Anonymous No.14257729]

>>14257644
>the government has GPS trackers in cars, cell phones, and is engaging in mass surveillance of citizens...
But that is all true, and has always been so.

[Anonymous No.14257735]

>>14257729
It wasn't true in the 90s, dumb zoomer, which I'm pretty sure is his point. Mass surveillance as it is now started as a consequence of 9/11, backed by an army of dumb neoliberals.

[Anonymous No.14257755]

Any books where people use magic in a technical way? Like building a car engine that uses mana as fuel? Or making spells that build fortifications?
I'm fed up of the old man pulling his beard and telling people how magic is too important to help defend the village, or some such.

[Anonymous No.14257771]

>>14257735
>zoomer
They didn't have the computing power to make it as easy as it is today. But they were tracking citizens.

>consequence of 9/11
so they bombed themselves to make mass surveillance open and accepted by the public.

[Anonymous No.14257794]

>>14257771
>They didn't have the computing power to make it as easy as it is today.
There was nothing signed at the time that gave the government the right to do that, so no.
>But they were tracking citizens.
Depends, you're always tracking some aspects of your citizens' lives. But were they tracking calls and credit cards and so on like they did after 9/11? No.
>so they bombed themselves
Really, m8? Really?
>to make mass surveillance open and accepted by the public.
Well, yes, they used 9/11 as an excuse to begin a mass surveillance program that was pushed not only by the Republicans but then expanded by the Democrats under Obama. It wasn't a Left or Right issue - if you refused to vote for it you were seen as a terrorist-loving loon and your career was threatened. They used fearmongering to make the citizens give up all their rights to privacy.

[Anonymous No.14257938]

>>14257794
>There was nothing signed at the time that gave the government the right to do that, so no.
>the government doesn't do things unless it's signed into law
We are done. You think your government/county is some lawful land of freedom that doesn't engage in illegal activities. Enjoy your delusions.

[Anonymous No.14257951]

>>14245110
"Apologies for the lack of I"?

[Anonymous No.14257964]

>>14257938
You're a retard. The CIA has illegally assassinated people for decades, but that's still different from the government passing a law saying that those that oppose the state will be legally executed. If you're so much of a paranoid magapede that you can't distinguish between rogue elements in the government or unlawful acts committed by certain parties from actual laws that's passed an enforced throughout the entire country, you're beyond helping.

[Anonymous No.14257968]

>>14257951
It's GRI APPROVED, without the I

[Anonymous No.14257972]

>>14257964
I'm not a Klapistani, chill. I'm looking in from outside and seeing the entire whole, while you're only seeing pieces.

[Anonymous No.14258005]

>>14257972
No, what you're seeing is tunnel vision. It's like looking at the crime rate in fucking Brazil and then Estonia and because Estonia has 2 murders, you think it's all the same. A government can spy on people, criminally, and a government can do so lawfully which is a BIG FUCKING RED FLAG. If you legitimately can't see the difference then you are a fucking retard, pure and simple. Illegal spying that can be prosecuted in courts is quite different from a law that's upheld by state officials and which forces everyone to comply. You are taking a brainlet position that isn't even remotely helpful.

[Anonymous No.14258229]

Since November has ended what do you guys have put aside for December?
Is your reading goal for the year met?
What are your plans for 2020?

[Anonymous No.14258284]

>>14258229
I haven't met a single one of my 2019 resolutions. I actually think this may have been the worst year ever in terms of reading.

[Anonymous No.14258550]

>>14258229
>Is your reading goal for the year met?
I set 100 books having no idea how much I'd read and I'm at 75 and I'm okay with that.

Could probably hit like 90 if I finished off everything half read but where's the fun in that

[Anonymous No.14258569]

I re-visited some "le epic trump xd" website from the 2016 Election-era and found this: https://altrightfanfiction.wordpress.com/2016/11/28/ascension-to-contentinople-and-the-seven-heavens-part-i/

It's pretty cheesy at first, but the descriptions towards the second half, especially the ending, really had my mind picturing vivid and lovely images.

Does anyone know of any fantasy books similar to pic related?

[Anonymous No.14258577]

>>14245000
"Castle of Bones. Wither to dust. Castle of Fire. Wither to ash. Know me. I am Death. I come for the valiant and cowardly alike. Prepare your lamentations."
- anon

[Anonymous No.14258742]

>>14257009
I don't know but little severian probably represents some religious concept or something that went over my head. Things also pop up in later books. So plenty of seemingly random events only gain meaning much later but there are also plenty of seemingly random things that just stay random and those are probably symbolic of religious or cultural things that will only be meaningful if you do a very detailed read through

[Anonymous No.14259016]

>>14258569
Bump

[Anonymous No.14259116]

>>14257633
The War of Powers by Robert Vardeman
The Bloodsong series by Asa Drake (pseudonym of Dean Anderson)
Demon in The Mirror by andre offutt
and most of Tanith Lee books since she was femalecoomer

[Anonymous No.14259130]

What is your honest opinion about Lud-in-the-Mist?

[Anonymous No.14259593]

I don't read.

[Anonymous No.14259617]

You should give it a try, it's fun!

[Anonymous No.14259700]

No fun allowed.

[Anonymous No.14259824]

>>14245000
Oh boy, here we go again with the shitty fantasy.

[Anonymous No.14259894]

>>14258005
Stop being so butthurt Klapistani.

[Anonymous No.14260118]

>four shitposts one after the other
Why are yall here, if you don't read?

[Anonymous No.14260130]

>>14252850
Congratulations on having an opinion

[Anonymous No.14260141]

>>14254129
>Fletcher grunted as he shart his trousers. Rain trickled down the nose-guard of his helm into the thick growth of his mustache. Slim wrinkled his nose.
>Did ya jus' fuckin shit yerself?
>Fletcher laughed. It was a good day to die.
Ya, "deep" POV

[Anonymous No.14260149]

>>14260130
>an opinion
It's a fact.

[Anonymous No.14260156]

>>14260141
>>14254129
Somebody post the pic with the guy stabbing himself to be tough.

[Anonymous No.14260160]

>>14260149
The majority of people and critics disagree with you, congratulations on having an opinion though

[Anonymous No.14260326]

>>14243213
>>14236713
Still in the middle of God Emperor of Dune. It seems every chapter has something that makes me think "what the fuck am I reading?" But next to all that craziness, the thing that stood out to me in the chapter I just finished reading, is that one of the characters is a homophobe. To a degree in which he's willing to kill. I mean, thinking back on it, he did show wariness to that kind of thing before. But still. To attempt to kill over such a thing?

And the whole altercation felt very overt in it's message about the new generation being more socially conscious than the old generation. They almost threw that message in your face. Kind of felt shoehorned into the middle of the plot to be honest. But I don't know that yet. There's still a large chunk of the book to finish.

Perhaps this is in response to the fact that in a previous book, one of the villains was described as incredibly gross. And one of the ways that was conveyed was to give him an appetite for young boys. Perhaps Frank Herbert wanted some positive gay message to balance the negative.

But maybe the "negative" gay message wasn't negative at all. I'm beginning to think Frank Herbert might very well be a pedo. Or at least some freak freelove hippy, willing to sexualize children.

[Anonymous No.14260343]

>>14260326
Oh yeah, and I hope Nayla is railing Siona with her big futa cock.

[Anonymous No.14260364]

>>14260326
The Baron's pedophilia was more of a aspect of his all-consuming hedonism than his defining villainous trait. He's a character that's held extreme power for so long that he's gotten completely bored with normal decadence and has to go to further extremes to feel anything. And really all of that feels secondary in that scene to him forcing his nephew to personally murder all their slaves in order to prove a point.

[Anonymous No.14260379]

>>14260364
From many people's perspective being hedinous is sinful. And being gay and/or a pedophile is a choice that arises from sin.

[Anonymous No.14260428]

>>14260326
Wasn't the boy that Baron fucked picked out for looking just like Paul? I think there was more to it than just being gay/pedo.
Felt more like he was trying to underscore that Duncan was a relic of the past and his sensibilities were at odds with the modern society. The fact that a trained soldier poses no threat to (physically) middle aged administrator shows he's been left behind physically as well.

[Anonymous No.14260466]

Why can I not upload large files to Bibliotik?

[Anonymous No.14260469]

>>14260428
>Wasn't the boy that Baron fucked picked out for looking just like Paul?
Yes, one of them. He had others. Even after he possesses Alia, he still desires boys. In fact, that was his bargain with her. To share in her carnal pleasures.

>Felt more like he was trying to underscore that Duncan was a relic of the past and his sensibilities were at odds with the modern society.
This is common "progressive" rhetoric. That's what made it stand out to me. It felt very liberal versus conservative.

[Anonymous No.14260487]

>>14260469
Well Leto II keeps reviving Duncan without modification so he sees some value in his old ways. Not sure how far along you are so I don't want to say too much.

[Anonymous No.14260491]

>>14260469
>>14260428
Just to be clear, I'm not accusing YOU of making common progressive rhetoric. But the way you phrased it just now sounded very close to what the character said.

[Anonymous No.14260505]

>>14260487
I'm not any farther than that. It just seems odd to me, because you'd think sophisticated people of their time would be above homophobia. Duncan lived during a time of common space travel, and he's like "ew gross, girls kissing." It doesn't match my preconception of the book's world.

[Anonymous No.14260531]

>>14260505
Remember that eugenics is a big thing in the Dune-verse, and it's a big thing because it demonstrably has large effects on the lineage of the characters. Paul only exists because of a very carefully managed system of breeding that went awry at the last possible minute. A person's reproductive organs are frequently seen a more important than the person themself; there were people back in the first book who saw it as a moral prerogative to seduce and/or rape the Baron's nephew just to get at his sweet, sweet sperm. A society like that is inevitably going to have different opinions on relationships that can't possibly lead to offspring.

[Anonymous No.14260545]

>>14260505
Think about how the Greeks didn't think much of grown men fucking boys. There's not necessarily a progression toward an objective sexual. Society could conceivably swing back to thinking gay shit is gross in 10,000 years and then swing again in another 3,000.

[Anonymous No.14260565]

>>14260545
*objective sexual morality

[Anonymous No.14260604]

>>14260531
That explanation provides context for the pro-gay messaging, but doesn't make it less glaring.

>>14260545
You're not wrong. Still, come one. House Atreides is so sophisticated. They understand living how you like, while keeping traditions. Which is why they marry for power, while breeding for genes. The Bene Gesserit doesn't care what people do, so long as it gives them the genes they want.
Granted, Duncan is neither Atreides or Bene Gesserit. But he's been with them for a long time, and learned their ways. Even Leto calls Duncan more Atreides than those currently living... in a sense.

[Anonymous No.14260678]

>>14260118
pushing memes, of course

[Anonymous No.14261087]

>>14259130
It's bretty good.
>>14260466
You should be able to but if no one downloads it (since it's ratio suicide essentially) then you won't get more ratio.

[Anonymous No.14261090]

>>14245000
What are the most fantasy-ass fantasy series out there besides Wheel of Time and Lord of the Rings?

[Anonymous No.14261126]

>>14261090
The Stormlight Archive
Malazan

[Anonymous No.14261137]

>>14261090
The Once and Future King
The Chronicles of Narnia

[Anonymous No.14261174]

>>14261090

Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
Shannara

[Anonymous No.14261277]

>>14260141
>>14254129
>>14260156

[Anonymous No.14261308]

Any books where they use magical guns? Instead of using gunpowder to fire, it uses magic.
please don't be a smartass and say gravity/railgun.

[Anonymous No.14261317]

>>14261308

[Anonymous No.14261337]

>>14261317
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.14261408]

>>14261308
Light novels series are books.
It's not what you are looking for, but it's the first thing that came to mind. I can't really think of many examples of mixing high tech with magic.

[Anonymous No.14261454]

>>14261087
>You should be able to
I get some "entity too large" cloudflare error every time I attempt uploading.

[Anonymous No.14261457]

>>14245000
Where do I start with Conan?

[Anonymous No.14261464]

>>14261454
https://bibliotik.me/forums/8/4441?page=1#post-38927
I mean if it's the .torrent causing an issue, the piece size will affect how big the .torrent file is. iirc big piece sizes result in smaller .torrent files.

[Anonymous No.14261528]

I though Neuromancer was going to be an easy read? I'm having to refer to refer to my dictionary app a lot - might be me just being a brainlet though.

>>14261457
'The Pheonix on the Sword'

[Anonymous No.14261618]

>>14261464
Yeah pretty sure that's the issue.
WELP how do I make a torrent?

[Anonymous No.14261637]

>>14261464
What is the tracker I use for bibliotik? Is it the announce ID or something else entirely?

[Anonymous No.14261647]

>>14261457
The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian.

[Anonymous No.14261660]

>>14261528
I also had quite a bit of trouble with neuromancer. I don't think it's the fiction so much as the vagueness of so many of the sentences with regard to their own content and how they connect to each other. I had a pretty hard time following the actual plot as it progressed, felt like I was trying to read a book while high almost.

[Anonymous No.14261715]

>>14261637
"Your personal announce URL:" on the https://bibliotik.me/upload/ page.

[Anonymous No.14261826]

>>14261715
Got it all set now. How does uploading work anyway toward my ratio?
>people download my torrents
>"you must upload X MB worth of files" thing doesn't budge a bit
question fucking mark

[Anonymous No.14261851]

>>14261826
Someone has to download it for it to be added to your ratio. Strategies which may be outdated because I built my ratio many years ago:
1) You can upload 100 books especially retail because they can't be trumped and get infinite ratio forever (but if they do get trumped or removed because of inactivity you will have to upload more)
2) Upload nonfiction from libgen. As you can see, certain things get autosnatched automatically. The last time I checked many years ago, these tags were autosnatched: nonfiction with either science, medicine or computer science or something.
3) Retail shids get autosnatched. If you are at university, you will also probably get a free ebrary or ebook central at proquest or whatever so you can mark those as retail and get easy ratio. Overdrive too but most people have overdrive already so all the books with a large amount of mb have already been updated. Anything with a lot of images in it like Cookbooks and artbooks and architectural designs or whatever has a lot of mb in it. In the forums you can fake your details and get a library card.
4) Small non retail books get snatched

[Anonymous No.14261863]

>>14261826
*
Also make sure you get a myanonamouse account. Bibliotik + MAM + Mobilism + IRC is basically the catch all for books and usually the books on Bibliotik won't be only on there but sometimes they will be

[Anonymous No.14261870]

>>14261851
Right. Some of my files have been autosnatched already, within minutes, including a large textbook PDF, yet my pic related hasn't budged an inch. Is there some kind of lag involved in terms of updating or what should I expect?

[Anonymous No.14261877]

>>14261870
Actually never mind, am I reading this wrong? Fuck me, I thought uploading a torrent would count toward seeding or something, Idk

[Anonymous No.14261878]

>>14261870
There's a lot of lag so don't worry. Most torrent clients have an update tracker thing if you right click the torrent which will give you your results faster on your users page.

[Anonymous No.14261890]

>>14261877
If you have numbers in either of the places on your uploaded torrent you have snatches

[Anonymous No.14261896]

>>14261878
Hmm okay. The client says that it has been uploaded equal to its filesize (so downloaded one time) for the biggest file (PDF.)

>>14261890
I have plenty of those. I'll give it time for the site to catch up then before I start worrying.
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.14261916]

>>14261896
That's it. I suggest you stick to uploading decently chonky textbooks from libgen or mam or mobilism because it's the most efficient way of getting ratio unless you're going for the 100 retail book infinite upload meme.

https://bibliotik.me/forums/17/4309/?page=2 There's a script for goodreads that will autofill most pages from goodreads. It's a really good script for really fast uploads.

[Anonymous No.14261927]

>>14261916
I had that one lying around for work business so I figured I'd throw it up there. I really don't use bibliotik too much and even if I do download a book, normal novels are so pitifully small that catching up to this 462mb requirement isn't that big of a deal. All I need to do is have my textbook downloaded one more time probably then I can get my dumb downloading privileges back.
I'll check into this script though.

[Anonymous No.14261947]

>>14261927
Most peeps autodownloading have seedboxes so most of the time you'll be getting 1:1 ratio. Still, that's just like two textbooks worth of mb

[Anonymous No.14261969]

Am I supposed to read Burning Chrome after finishing the Sprawl trilogy?

[Anonymous No.14261979]

>>14261174
I just remembered I need to finish reading Empire of Grass

[Anonymous No.14262051]

/sffg/, the depression is making me not want to read or write, and it's not helping that my writing group is going to go two weeks without meetings, if it meets again at all

[Anonymous No.14262057]

>>14261969
You have to read it before you start the sprawl trilogy

[Anonymous No.14262071]

>>14262057
fuck, I just finished Necromancer. I was just going off of publication date.

[Anonymous No.14262092]

>>14262071
Neuromancer**, even.

[Anonymous No.14262119]

>>14262071
which is the correct order.

[Anonymous No.14262142]

>>14262071
The collection was published in 86´ but most of the stories in it were written in the early 80s and were originally published in scifi magazines or anthologies.

[Anonymous No.14262273]

das it mane

[Anonymous No.14262279]

>>14262273
Just shove one other 213 megabyte book in there somewhere from libgen I guess.

[Anonymous No.14262283]

>>14262279
I'm above my required upload amount now (filled some random's request) so I can only assume that's a glitch or some sort.

[Anonymous No.14262297]

>>14262283
Or maybe bounties don't count toward upload. This is all a new learning experience for me. Uploading torrents is kinda fun, WHY

[Anonymous No.14262302]

>>14262297
>>14262283
Bounties count directly towards upload but a lot of request makers are assholes and will unfulfill it if it doesn't match their criteria. Also the site can be slow to update stuff. That's why uploading random autosnatched shit off libgen is often easier...

[Anonymous No.14262341]

/sffg/, I didn't write tonight and I feel like shit about it

[Anonymous No.14262348]

>>14262341
wow you just wrote a blogpost

[Anonymous No.14262366]

>>14262341
nobody cares about your faggy litrpg anime bullshit

[Anonymous No.14262596]

>>14260604
Why do you equate sophistication with tolerating fags?

[Anonymous No.14262613]

What is meant by the term 'fence in Gibson's Sprawl trilogy/Neuromancer? Shit is confusing me.

[Anonymous No.14262621]

>>14262613
If only there was something you could use to lookup the meaning of a word. A book or website that could do that would be very useful ...

> fence
> a person who receives and disposes of stolen goods.

[Anonymous No.14262646]

Can I get a book recommendation? I'm looking for something that's like the first two game of thrones books but also have the atmosphere of Dark Souls.

[Anonymous No.14262666]

>>14262621
ty

[Anonymous No.14262674]

>>14262646
>what boog lige dark souls :DDDDDDD
every fucking thread

[Anonymous No.14262757]

BUT I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FUCKING FOREVER FOR A MOVIE AGAIN DON'T DOOO ITTTTTTTT

[Anonymous No.14262764]

>>14262646
You need to go back.

[Anonymous No.14263020]

Ded tred.

[Anonymous No.14263110]

How do you keep up-to-date with new genre releases?

[Anonymous No.14263118]

>>14263110
For traditionally published SF, just look at the release schedules.

[Anonymous No.14263119]

>finish the Wizard Knight
>thoroughly disliked it
>prose was good though characters felt stiff and unlikable
>endless politicking with the Giants
>concludes rather abruptly with a jaunt into full-scale warfare where once again muh timezones lay waste to any sense of pace
>finally done, now I can read The Lightbringer book 5
>been looking forward to this shit since I finished book 4 like 2 years ago
>start reading
>it's boring garbage
>too much time spent describing irrelevant places, people and things
>too self aware, can't go a single chapter without Weeks patting himself on the back for being so clever
>realise every book was like this I just couldn't see it

What the fuck happened? I didn't enjoy the Wizard Knight and yet I long to read something with the same narrative austerity. I can't help but admire Wolfe because if he did not tell the most interesting story he was at least very economical with it. What do I read now? I can't continue with Weeks.

[Anonymous No.14263123]

>>14263118
SFF rather

[Anonymous No.14263133]

>>14245000
>>Monthly Reading, November: Let The Right One In

hey ive read that one, good book

[Anonymous No.14263171]

>>14263110
You can also used Goodread's new releases feature that will tell you all the new releases from all the authors you've liked and whatever else you may interested in that's coming out in the current month.

[Anonymous No.14263331]

>>14262666
>>14262613
>being unironically saying ty and not feeling any shame

[Anonymous No.14263345]

>>14263119
Weeks was trying to tie up endings, instead of telling a story.
That entire book was closure: the novel.

You can take a look at self published if traditional publishing isn't doing it anymore for you.

>>14263133
Discussion is tomorrow, so I hope you remember it.

[Anonymous No.14263379]

>>14262596
Because hating gays is a huge waste of time. Nothing else wastes more energy while accomplishing so little.

[Anonymous No.14263396]

>>14263345
>Discussion is tomorrow, so I hope you remember
Probably will be a new thread before it's tomorrow, even in Europe.

[Anonymous No.14263501]

>>14263379
Are you, by chance, an irl literal faggot?

[Anonymous No.14263508]

>>14263501
Are you, by chance, someone without any empathy?

[Anonymous No.14263513]

>>14263508
>asks that on a Maltese Falcon Spitshining Forum

If he does have have empathy IRL, he's still and edgy fuck here.

[Anonymous No.14263517]

>>14263379
>Because hating gays is a huge waste of time.
I have to disagree. By not hating gays, you end up with modern American society.
So while it might be distasteful to weak willed such as yourself, gay hating is a necessary civic duty.

[Anonymous No.14263519]

>>14263513
social justice paladin pls

[Anonymous No.14263529]

>>14263517
Based on your image, you need to return to your containment thread on /tv/.

[Anonymous No.14263535]

>>14263379
>Nothing else wastes more energy while accomplishing so little.
I doubt you need to expend more than a few kilo Calories each day to hate the gays. If hating the gays really was as energy expensive as you say it is it might probe a viable weight loss strategy.

>>14263508
You can hate the gays and be sympathetic to other humans simultaneously.

[Anonymous No.14263553]

>>14263517
Mohammad, you seem confused.
Homosexuality is only illegal in Muslim countries now, there's no reason to single out the US, even though you chant "Death to America!" every day.

[Anonymous No.14263566]

>>14263529
So you look at this poor soul, this horribly disfigured young man, whose castration was televised nationally, who has spent most of his life choke full of anti-depressants and female hormones and who's mere presence causes disgust (like in his sister) and all you can do is be snarky?
You are not horrified by this spectacle of depravity?
What lack of empathy.

>>14263553
That comment was really uncalled for.
Throwing fags off of buildings is barbaric.

[Anonymous No.14263586]

>>14263566
Oh, I am horrified. The same way I'm horrified by similar exploitative reality TV shows. The difference between us is that I'm not supporting it by giving it exposure.

The "alt-right" and radical islam are different sides of the same coin and you'll just have to accept that. I'm aware that the narcissism of small differences is difficult to accept.

[Anonymous No.14263602]

>>14263586
>I'm not supporting it by giving it exposure.
Do you support the Holocaust if you give it exposure?
Dude, you are ridiculous, not him by the way.

[Anonymous No.14263612]

>>14263602
Your motivated reasoning has led to a terrible analogy.

[Anonymous No.14263620]

>>14263586
I don't know how to respond to this incoherent raging.
Alt-right, muzzies, exposure, narcissism - what are you actually trying to say?
Surely I can not be a narcissist alt-right muzzie giving exposure to disturbing American shows all at the same time?
And surely you can not be defending something as abhorrent as this spectacle, which seems to be the main American export these few past years?

[Anonymous No.14263632]

>>14263620
No, but you can be that disingenuous.

[Anonymous No.14263655]

>>14263612
Why doesn't the analogy work?
Exposing something atrocious is not just "giving it exposure", where is the difference?

Why is it okay to expose Jeffrey Epstein for pedophilia and not exposing these monstrosities for their child abuse?

[Anonymous No.14263658]

>>14263632
>No
But you are. You want other people to be quite about it, that is literally what you said.

[Anonymous No.14263681]

>>14263632
Surelly I deserve more of an answer from you. Instead of being called names.
You're not really making a case against doing one's civic duty.

[Anonymous No.14263691]

>>14263655
It doesn't work because a purpose of a television series is to be watched and mere exposure to it makes it more likely for it to be watched, hence it's indirect support. I would have said, "The difference is that you're the one watching it", but I have no proof of that, while there is obvious proof that the image was posted. I didn't type that the poster endorsed the show, whereas your analogy is closer to "endorse" than "support" because you didn't mean "create greater awareness of that the holocaust happened".

>>14263658
The "no" is in response to "Surely I can not be", because I never said you were. In this post >>14263553 I was mocking you. I began responding to you with this post >>14263508. I am not this post. >>14263379.

>>14263681
>Surely I deserve more of an answer from you
No, you aren't entitled to anything. I believe your premise is entirely wrong and are we are conflict. Neither of us are making a mistake. We have different values. Hence, discussing these differences isn't productive.

[Anonymous No.14263694]

>>14263691
It's quite possible have made the same mistake, so I'll fix that now.
> was mocking you. I began responding to you
Should be "mocking that poster" and "responding to that poster".

[Anonymous No.14263700]

>>14263691
>It doesn't work because a purpose of a television series is to be watched and mere exposure to it makes it more likely for it to be watched, hence it's indirect support. I would have said, "The difference is that you're the one watching it", but I have no proof of that, while there is obvious proof that the image was posted. I didn't type that the poster endorsed the show, whereas your analogy is closer to "endorse" than "support" because you didn't mean "create greater awareness of that the holocaust happened".
What are these mental gymnastics?

Tell me, why should bad things not be exposed?
If there was an openly homophobic TV show would you tell gay people to keep quiet about it, because they would just be giving it exposure?

>In this post >>14263553 # I was mocking you. I began responding to you with this post >>14263508 #. I am not this post. >>14263379 #.
??????????

[Anonymous No.14263708]

>>14263691
>>14263694
Poor fag just can't take bantz.

[Anonymous No.14263730]

>>14263700
It's unfortunate that you don't see the difference between hating people for what they choose to be and and what they didn't choose to be.

[Anonymous No.14263741]

>>14263730
You are NOT responding to my arguments.

I am talking about you arguing that you shouldn't expose things you consider evil, because that would give them exposure.

[Anonymous No.14263748]

>>14263741
I wasn't responding because your definition of evil is silly. I'm not going to get riled up about some superficial reality show whose entire purpose is sensationalism.

[Anonymous No.14263753]

>>14263748
The same way I'm not going to be become overly upset about various books the same way that often happens in this thread.

[Anonymous No.14263799]

>>14263748
>I wasn't responding because your definition of evil is silly.
Then replace it by "something I find really bad".

>I'm not going to get riled up about some superficial reality show whose entire purpose is sensationalism.
Totally irrelevant to the point.

[Anonymous No.14263844]

>>14263799
This is my last response.
Most "exposing" is simply self-righteous and self-congratulatory. It's wanting to feel good about expressing an opinion about hating something. It's signalling. As opposed to exposing crimes. The former is "call out culture" or "cancel culture" while the latter is investigative journalism. There's a huge difference between by "I'm offended" and "I'm literally injured". That people are increasingly unable to tell the difference is the real indictment of Internet culture. Not only are they offended for themselves, they take it upon to themselves to feel offended for others, even if the others don't feel offended in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.14264072]

>>14262646
>hey guise ani buk like the manga berserk. griffith didn'tdo anything wrong XDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.14264092]

>>14264072 -2/10.

[Anonymous No.14264210]

>>14263844
Oh the horrors of faggotry.

[Anonymous No.14264236]

cease this faggotry

[Anonymous No.14264269]

fucking faggots

[Anonymous No.14264342]

>>14261308
Anyone? No real answers, only weeabo shit.

[Anonymous No.14264357]

Should have posted this a couple days ago, but oh well. If the Monthly Reading Anon wants their discussion prompt to be the first post in the next thread, I'll need to have it provided before that in some way. Otherwise the second post is going to be the nominations for December because anyone can do that.

I'll put an edition in the next thread if someone provides one, because I don't care about them and think they only get a couple responses and/or are so basic as to not be worthwhile. If it's going to be like the previous thread, may as well just put a post right after the OP with something like "Reply to this post with what you are currently reading" in every thread.

[Anonymous No.14264381]

>>14264357
And put something sexy in the OP, you double faggot.

[Anonymous No.14264385]

>thread ruined by homosexuals
What a shocker!

[Anonymous No.14264410]

>>14264381 Do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.14264421]

>>14264357
Make it a "first frost edition"
Ask questions about books with people killing the gods responsible for the festivities (like the grinch)
ask what people plan to finish before dec 31
Ask them what they read in Turkey week

[Anonymous No.14264437]

>>14264410
Alas I would anon if I could. I would relieve you of your autistic burden.
But with the job, and life and all that other normie shit I just can't. I am going through so much technical documentation daily that I barely have energy left to read for fun, let alone follow this general.

[Anonymous No.14264453]

>>14264437
Yes, you can literally make a new thread this very moment. It'd take less time than you spent making that post.

[Anonymous No.14264456]

>>14264453
Pfffft fine.
Here I go.

[Anonymous No.14264488]

New thread, move it.

>>14264479
>>14264479
>>14264479
>>14264479
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[Anonymous No.14264497]

>>14264488
I appreciate you following through on your complaints, not many do.

[Anonymous No.14264512]

>>14264497
It's the least i could, while I am here.

[Anonymous No.14264686]

>>14264488
I used to read AppleGeeks from when it first started, a long, long time ago.

[Anonymous No.14265781]

Fuck, I posted that just before hitting the sack, thinking I *might* get one reply. I didn't realize /lit/ was so sensitive.

>>14263501
No. But why would that matter? Does my sexual orientation magically change what is true or not?

>>14263517
Gay people and trannies are not the same. I'm actually against the notion of supporting trannies. I still don't hate them. I pity them. But being trans can not be helped without forcing everyone else to pretend that men are women and women are men. That is an objective falsehood I do not tolerate. Supporting trannies is akin to mixing god with state. It should be resisted.

However, gay people can be proven true. You only need to want to fuck the same sex to be gay. You can call it a choice if you want, it doesn't matter to me either way. Who cares is men choose to fuck each other?

>>14263535
You say it costs nothing, until gays are open about being gay, and then gay-haters actively try to stop them from partaking in parts of society that we all partake in. Or they actively try to harm them. And all for what? What's the ultimate outcome here?