/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14236203]

What books must I read in order to understand the Russian Federation?

[Anonymous No.14236314]

"Russia" wikipiedia article

[Anonymous No.14237819]

Bump

[Anonymous No.14237842]

>>14236203

[Anonymous No.14237999]

Armeggedon Averted by Kotkin would be a start

[Anonymous No.14238005]

>>14237999
Also, not a book but there is a very good podcast(!) called Sean’s Russia Blog. It features interviews, mostly with academics, about topics related to Russia and Eurasia. You will find some interesting books if you listen.

[Anonymous No.14238199]

What books must I read in order to understand this part of the Russian Federation specifically?

[Anonymous No.14238209]

>>14238199
Gulag Archipelago

[Anonymous No.14238214]

>>14237842
I have this but haven't read yet. Any thoughts on it?

[Anonymous No.14238250]

>>14238199
You need to be more specific about what you are trying to learn.

[Anonymous No.14238265]

>>14238250
culture history lifestyle
How it differs from my countries equivalent barren wasteland

[Anonymous No.14238383]

>>14238265
Sadly I don’t have a specific book to rec but I can tell you a bit that will maybe help your search. Imperial Russia viewed the east like Americans viewed the west, they basically had their own version of manifest destiny. Both Americans and Russians got all the way to California from opposite directions! Native Siberians were specifically conceptualized by Russians as analogous to native Americans (recent linguistic research actually shows a link between Ket, a Siberian language, and some Native American languages). If you have any interest in neighboring areas like Kazakhstan a book just came out on the “enclosure” of nomads under the soviets (people always bring up Ukraine as an example of Soviet overreach but far more people died in Central Asia). There is probably some interesting stuff out there about Russian relations with China and Japan. You could look for stuff about the trans-Siberian railway or the Kamchatka expeditions. Peter the Great was the first tsar to take the Far East seriously.
Idk if any of this will be helpful to you but I hope it puts you on the right path. Lmk if you’re interested in the book about Kazakhstan, I can find the title.

[Anonymous No.14238530]

>>14236203
History of vodka by Pokhlyobkin

[Anonymous No.14238841]

>>14238265
>Canada's barren wasteland
Are there any books on THIS?

[Anonymous No.14240042]

>>14236203
All the Kremlin's Men and Fragile Empire

[Anonymous No.14240117]

>>14236203
a gentleman in moscow

[Anonymous No.14240164]

There is nothing to understand. Modern Russia is an incredibly depressing, culturally void den of corruption and malice populated by browbeaten alcoholics, mongoloid invaders from the steppen regions, hostile and oppressive government, all rotting in rapidly dropping standards of living. Anyone half- sane who lives here wants nothing more than to get out and forget this hellhole forever

t. russian

[Anonymous No.14240177]

>>14240164
I have heard that you basically have to go to Moscow or Saint Petersburg if you want anything like a shot at a decent life.

[Anonymous No.14240444]

>>14236203
I can't believe no one recommended Foundation of Geopolitics yet.

[Anonymous No.14240500]

>>14240444
Meme book

[Anonymous No.14240517]

The Essential Saker

[Anonymous No.14240555]

>>14240444
Why is there a Moorcockian chaos brand on the cover?

[Anonymous No.14240582]

>>14237842
>>14240444
Dugin is a beaten to death meme in Russia, no idea why people being him up so often on this board

[Anonymous No.14240775]

>>14240500
Meme book or not, gives a pretty good insight on modern position of Russia.

[Anonymous No.14240886]

>>14240582
He's still influential. He's Russia's greatest contemporary philosopher. His work will be studied decades after his death. Americans are only starting to notice him. By the time they do, the Russians will have already won.

>>14240517
The Saker is very good.

[Anonymous No.14240956]

>>14240177
Yes. But 'decent' is quite a relative word. The outer rim of both cities feel like a Hong Kong ghetto with frigid climate, and they have about as much Central Asians and North Caucasians as Americans have negroes.
All Russian regions have literally African living standard with Canadian climate to make it worse. Moscow and St. Pete have South African living standards at best, and a Romanian minimum wage is above Muscovite median wage.
Ever since 2014 hit this place deteriorated back to its "Upper Volta with nuclear missiles" status.

t. a Belarusian accidentally stuck in this shithole

[Anonymous No.14241011]

>>14236203

[Anonymous No.14241062]

>>14236203
A cocaine trafficking syndicate running what's left of a slavering empire with leftover nukes and genocide trauma. Read Narconomics.

[Anonymous No.14241131]

>>14240956

Bit of a stretch, Russia is definitely getting a tiered system of attention towards it's cities based on productivity, location of existing infrastructure, and lastly cultural relevance.

Кpacнoдap is a clear example where everything around it is is rotting but the city gets (finally) roads/decent hospitals.

Sadly, only our liberals (who have zero say in any matter) are the only facet of our intelligentsia that cares about proper historically preservation and not building shitty """"LUXURY""""" commie blocks all over the fucking place and filling them with Bhaktiors for Uzbekistan.

[Anonymous No.14241141]

best books on novgorod/it's monarchy/similar things in russia?

[Anonymous No.14241231]

Has anyone read this book? It’s not about “Russia once Putin is gone” but rather looking at what’s going on in Russia without making it a personality study of Putin, which has become an obsession in the US. From reviews I gather that it also emphasizes continuities between Putin and Yeltsin. Curious what any FSUfags think in particular.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2019-08-12/russia-without-putin-money-power-and-myths-new-cold-war

[Anonymous No.14241288]

>>14236203
Ivan Ilyin. Should I read him or no? If so, where do I start? His Hegel book looks based

[Anonymous No.14241292]

>>14241062
t. CIA

[Anonymous No.14241295]

>>14241131
> are the only facet of our intelligentsia
Funny you should mention them. The modern intelligentsia amounts to "intelligence servicemen's progeny", as in international terrorists' grandkiddies.
>that cares about proper historically preservation
In their gated communities unreachable by dirtly plebs like you and me, behind iron bars two full grown men's height or better yet a five meter high full plate wall.
> and filling them with Bhaktiors for Uzbekistan
The intelligence servicemen's progeny treats them EXACTLY like they do niggers and spics in the US or poos and niggas in the UK, as judging buy the local rants.

I'd advise the anglosmurfs to learn their liberals' pedigree closer than (((__))), by the way.
Oh, and going back to the thread:
- Solzhenitsyn - Two Hundred Years Together
- Shafarevich - Russophobia (oh my, the White Man's Bashing by the (((intelligentsia))) is at least 100 years old! to the surprise of not a single soul over here)
- Aleksievich - haven't read her personally, but read people lauding her for exposing the Soviet People for the utterly inhumane existence in a journalist-like prose
- Zinoviev - Homo Sovieticus, for a Soviet dissident sociologist's take on the same theme.

[Anonymous No.14241312]

>>14241292
Convergent evolution much, bitch.

[Anonymous No.14241317]

>>14241312
>much, bitch
go back

[Anonymous No.14241326]

>>14241317
Make me. I have been living in a frozen hell for the last 5 years, I doubt you have anything at all to amuse me.

[Anonymous No.14241328]

>>14240886
He was kind of relevant in the 90s, but has since moved into tinfoil nutjob territory, resulting in him being kicked out from the job (he's gotten too weird even for the conservative, largely pro-Putin Moscow State University, let that sink in) and shunned pretty much everywhere. His nonsense is harmless enough so he gets a pass to spew meme shit here and there, no one really cares anyway. He's basically Russia's Varg (the Thulean Perspective Varg, not the church-burning, murderous one). Some people find it based I guess.

[Anonymous No.14241330]

>>14236203
Ceмaчки, вoдкa и цигapи

[Anonymous No.14241371]

>>14241295

>modern intelligentsia amounts to "intelligence servicemen's progeny"
>In their gated communities unreachable by dirtly plebs

I don't think we are talking about quite the same thing here; I was referring to the neutered domestic opposition. Our liberal reformers/"nationalists" who sure as fuck don't live behind any bars other than the prison variety.

[Anonymous No.14241372]

>>14241328
So what from his works should we read? Certainly he produced some from when he was sane?

[Anonymous No.14241373]

>>14241328
The job in the Moscow STATE University was given to him at all because of his KGB-FSB links. Plus, don't forget his intelligentsia roots, as in his father literally being a Leutenant-General of the GRU, that is the Military Intelligence Service of the USSR.
Have I mention already that intelligentsia literally means intelligence servicemen's progeny? No? Some things must be repeated so as never be forgotten. How would you treat a son of a literal CIA vice-exec? GRU isn't exactly the all-powerfull octopus of the KGB-FSB, but it is unbearably close for both of them.

That's the reason he was "inclined" to work in conceptual fields, that is spew bullshit for the intelligence services to disseminate. Apparently he either did his job well enough and moved on to a more direct psy-ops via the Tsargrad channel, or was too much of a crank even for FSB cocaine fiends and hence sacked, lol.

[Anonymous No.14241376]

>>14241328
varg is practically right about everything

[Anonymous No.14241380]

>>14241373
Thank you for the insight, glowie.

[Anonymous No.14241384]

>>14241371
Then use the words accordingly. Remember the Chink Wisdom of the Wize Men beginning their projects with Rectifying Names first. Without proper names, everyone is confused.
Intelligentsia was a curse word already 100 years ago by Ulyanov-Lenin, an intelligentsia man par excellence, because he well knew who he was exactly and what he was doing.

[Anonymous No.14241402]

>>14241373
So academia is cucked? Intelligence is based?

[Anonymous No.14241416]

>>14241384
>Ulyanov-Lenin, an intelligentsia man par excellence, because he well knew who he was exactly and what he was doing.
I never understood this exactly. What did he want to become of the intelligentsia in USSR? Who was suppose to be the intellectual elite?

Do you think intelligentsia is good for society?

[Anonymous No.14241418]

>>14241402
>So academia is cucked?
Are you asking it about the country that has had three genocided in the row in 100 years, smart men first to bite the bullet? Are you sure you need to ask if the Sun is bright?
> Intelligence is based?
The Russian intelligence services are run and manned by inhuman cannibalistic cocaine fiends with enough dirt on any single one of them to give one a CP torrent tracker's prison treatment. Take what you will.

[Anonymous No.14241428]

>>14241384

That's never going to be the proper definition but whatever, this thread has already devolved into the usual PUTIN DUGIN SOLZHENITSYN grandpa rambling shit that bears no relevance to OPs question. I honestly confused why not a sinlge board on this website can host a sensible discussion on anything even pertaining to Russia.

[Anonymous No.14241435]

>The Russian intelligence services are run and manned by inhuman cannibalistic cocaine fiends
this is exactly what a glow in the dark nig would say lmao can't make this shit up don't you have /pol/fags to monitor?

[Anonymous No.14241441]

>>14241418
>three
Russian Revolution, Purges/WW2, ???

Is the third the brain drain in the 1990s?

I am just asking what an “intelligent person” should be doing in 2019 - assuming they can’t escape their country

[Anonymous No.14241469]

>>14241402
>So academia is cucked
Democrats and liberals were incredibly naive, living in a fantasy word of soft pink clouds talking about more freedom and openness and elections while the strong men and former party mafia allied themselves with criminals and thugs to seize power. Intelligentsia did exist, a good one that wasn't tainted by the party, but they had no influence on the developments during the 90s and I imagine many of them now are too scared to speak, locked up, too foolish to pose a threat, or left to other countries.

>>14241435
They sure have many very capable and talented people, and these services attract a special sort of person. But they are all corrupt, and the lower tiers are reverting back into a violent stalinist mode, torture, beatings, falsifying prison sentences etc is all coming back in force. Young kids looking for a decent salary in bumfuck Siberia have no choice; and those who don't like what they see and try to leave "fall in the stairs" and end up in a coma.

[Anonymous No.14241470]

>>14241416
>Who was suppose to be the intellectual elite?
The grandkiddies of the people who waged a 5 years long war with 10 million 500 thousand people dead and 2 million exectuted to gulag the rest 100 million for 100 years and sacrifice them all to maybe gulag the rest 1 billion people on the planet.
The Russian Civil War saw more casualties that all the World War One combatants combined, the Russian Empire included. And it ended like a year and a half sooner. And every single Entente country wanted that to continue and the Commies to burn it all down, with a most ironic exception of the United States of America. Let that sink in before continuing.

How do you think, what type of people created and ruled this utter apocalyptic death cult and what type of kiddies they would give birth to?

>Do you think intelligentsia is good for society?
Cancerous growth is never good.
The intelligentsia you already have in the West is so alike in its disdain for plebs and spewing bullshit to rationalize the pleb's incoming enslavement is but a testamen to convergent evolution of the classes. I will not give a single fuck if they turn out to have intelligence servicemen or other international terrorists as direct ancestors, it's just as expected.
Think of the intelligentsia as a benign brain tumor. As always, there is a chance it will eat you alive once everything is set.

[Anonymous No.14241480]

>>14241441
>Russian Revolution, Purges/WW2, ???
The Holodomor between them. Everyone was starving south of Moscow, the Ukrainians are the only ones who finally voiced their indignance on the matter of all the sufferers.

[Anonymous No.14241485]

>>14241441
>I am just asking what an “intelligent person” should be doing in 2019 - assuming they can’t escape their country
The same things they always did in the USSR.
You are asking what a Jewish intelligent person should do in the Third Reich. Fucking run.

[Anonymous No.14241516]

>>14241441
Usually Purges and WW2 are counted as two separate events, then you have the Revolution as well as WW1

Intelligent without much in terms of morality and qualms? You seize a factory or a city, ally yourself with local criminals and the security service, and you become one of the modern oligarchs. You live in insane wealth as long as you support the state and don't ruffle feathers of people above you in the hierarchy.
You might think it is a joke, but the most important high-tech industrial heart of the USSR and Russia was seized by criminal mafia gangs, and they reformed themselves as a party and still control the city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralmash_gang

>>14241480
>Ukrainians are the only ones who finally voiced their indignance on the matter of all the sufferers.
Cringe. It is a set-piece for justifying new wars in and against Russia, to hammer in the message and lay the groundwork for "Ukraine=EU". No one gives a shit that just as many ethnic Russians died from famine in Kazakhstan, Volga and Caucasus.

[Anonymous No.14241519]

>>14241485
>that image
Imagine living in a glorious winter wonderland and not exploring the great outdoors. The problem with modern "men" isn't that they are constricted by society, they just lack the will to do anything. They would rather drink and sit around bitching than explore.

[Anonymous No.14241533]

>>14241516
uralmash sound based

[Anonymous No.14241588]

>>14241516
> It is a set-piece for justifying new wars in and against Russia
Russia has been totally dead since 1921, the UK and France were totally OK with this. You are defending the grankids of the people who enslaved your grandfathers and murdered the rest, how much of a Stockholm Syndrome is that.

>>14241519
>imagine living in a glorious winter wonderland
How do I spot a romantically-inclided warm-blood from the Subtropical States of America or the Oceanic Climate Union? He doesn't know why the Russian Empire has had that total fixation on the Balkans and Turkey throughout the XIX century.
> and not exploring the great outdoors
Possessing tourism maps over a certain accuracy range equaled espionage charge in the USSR. You don't want that, hence you need a guide who will spy on you the whole trip. Granted, touring the forests and mountains of the Union was the only legit way to temporarily escape said cursed Union.
>They would rather drink and sit around bitching than explore.
You would become a crying bitch in the USSR in like a month. This is not an if. You psyche would not survive your first bread queue unless it was tempered by domestic violence from the earlierst days in the Union.
If you live in Canada or the US or whatever, then sure man, you're totally right. When you live in the worst regime in the history of humanity before the current Digital Gulag of PRC, well.

[Anonymous No.14241599]

>>14241519

It would be a lot of fun to watch your retarded ass get collected by the paramedics sometime in May of next year.

>nah dude i lived in NORTH Carolina, im a real outdoors boi, even vacationed in ALASKA

cute.

[Anonymous No.14241604]

>>14238841
There's nothing to know. It's all trees and drunk Indians on reserves.

[Anonymous No.14241613]

>>14241588
Where can I read about Samizdat and how exactly they distributed it? I want the technical details

Also do you think Russia and America have many parallels? Manifest Destiny? Both non-European superpowers? Disgust for any intellegentsia class?

[Anonymous No.14241616]

>>14241604
How do I get a job up there?

t. American

[Anonymous No.14241635]

>>14241616
I know someone who got a high paying job in Iqaluit. I believe he works for the federal government and was offered a job there.

[Anonymous No.14241662]

>>14241613
The parallels are there, but the comparisons are just general, if you look at details they are nothing alike. Russia had a giant wilderness in Siberia, that was explored by poachers and hunters seeking for pelts and furs, just like in America. There were indigenous hostile people riding horses and raiding against whom they slowly expanded through forts, displacements and pacification, just like in America. There were gold and silver and resource people flocked like mad to get rich on when they were discovered, just like America. And the siberian railway which opened the country to large scale settlement created a boom atmosphere with amazing growth, just like in America.

All the specifics are different though, the local tribes got mostly assimilated/russified rather than genocided, there were wars and instability and uprisings that limited growth, instead of private initiative much development was based on state involvement. Also I don't think America ever had anything like the Cossacks who moved in as the first wave of colonizers and intermarried with the local people while simultaneously being military garrisons.

After the USSR everything went crazy and all parallels end, there were completely unsustainable projects and cities popping up everywhere, prison camps, rotting infrastructure, despair.

[Anonymous No.14241681]

>>14241613
>Both non-European
Ehehehe, russophobic much? I remember the first time the English did that PR treatment to the Spanish, with "Africa starts right after the Pyrenees" shit. So noice to have the island of inbreds handing down loicenses on European-ness.
>Disgust for any intellegentsia class?
This is the first-hand experience of anyone who had to live a bit under said class, nothing specifically American or Russian about that. I am pretty sure a random Ching Chong of century X had had already fed up with the caste of Confucian immaculate bullshit providers running the business they have no idea of except for other peoples' books on how the stupid plebs must be fucked with.
If anything, Russia had lauded its nascent intelligentsia in the late century XIX so much in finally received an intelligentsian treatment. Its "the Green fucking frigid Sea" conquest of the Frontier isn't that different from Canadian fur trappers boogaloo.

Samizdat is not quite my area of interest, unfortunately, so I can't give you any more hints the Google can. Maybe some other anon will give you some links.

[Anonymous No.14241701]

>>14241681
I think it’s a compliment to be called non-European. Why be part of a dead, dying civilization. Europe is Greece and America/Russia is Rome.

>>14241662
Thanks anon. Do you think it’s feasible for the two ever to be friends?

[Anonymous No.14241722]

>>14241662
>got mostly assimilated/russified rather than genocided
Ehehe. Mostly. Like the Kamchadals got suicided out of existence and their women sexually liberated, so to say.
Anyway, something like a mega-Canada with Metis-like Cossack Hosts conquering ever more tribes to trade them sweet furs to Chinks.
I remember the Cossacks abandoned plans to colonize California and Oregon after the Alaskan furs depleted, because the Chinks had had enough already, so transporting Californian furs to China became a waste. Again, much more like Canada, it gets its American vibes starting with the Transib railway by very late XIX century perhaps.

Picrel Transib Railroad servicemen on some Trans-Baikal station a bit over 100 years ago, having a party. The guy on the left at a slight distance is a Muslim Tatar, Mirza Mirzay-oglu Abd-al-something, don't remember, the rest are typical Siberian mix of (Great) Russians, Ukrainians and whoever blanda upped in the Cossack Hosts. Their lives would become so much worse so soon.

[Anonymous No.14241739]

>>14241588
The people still live on, there are still good people there. The current government is a travesty, it does not mean I wish for bad things to happen to the country. Maybe we do need another Crimean War scenario (1850, not 2014), something to shake the country up and trigger necessary reforms and reset relations.
My grandfather and grandmother both lived good lives despite everything, despite their parents both being killed by Stalin. I still have family there. Why would I wish for things to get worse?

>>14241588
>He doesn't know why the Russian Empire has had that total fixation on the Balkans and Turkey throughout the XIX century.
And obviously neither do you, it had nothing to do with "warmer temperature". Panslavists wanted to create a mega-state to protect all slavs and to displace the Turks and reclaim the lands of Constantinople which was cultural basis and justification for the tsarist autocratic myth. We see Third Rome as a meme, but from the 1450-1500's it became something very real and became a foundation of the state.

>You psyche would not survive your first bread queue
You know you are talking to a retard when they equate all of the 80 years of the USSR as bread cues, which was a thing for a few years in late 80's and early 90's. How would you deal with Great Depression in the USA? Soup cue for all the poor people who can't afford to eat. Yes, this is the story of all USA throughout all time.
I get your hate for the Union, but at least try to be balanced in your view because this sort of exaggeration fuels denial in people who don't know better.

[Anonymous No.14241761]

>>14241588
>Russia has been totally dead since 1921

We're not.

We have a bunch of retarded crooks and their underlings running their operations but things will change once the older guys keep dying off.

The difference in how vocal the middle class/political class is from even five years ago is insane.

>>14241701
>I think it’s a compliment to be called non-European

Europeans have respect for one another, respect for earnest working standards. I saw new neighborhoods in Finland that would be the utter pinnacle of new construction in Russia just casually cropping up. In Italy I saw structures preserved and loved while in Russia we just abandon our history to bums and build a disgusting glass office building next to them. Entire towns had old districts with NO CARS while in every city here, lanes are growing to like 10 lane highways over our kremlins/old towns with massive flat parking lots everywhere.

I saw none of this in Europe. Why the fuck would we not want to be a happier/more adjusted people. In tune with culture and our local environment? Instead we get the same fucking idiot mayor since 1996 building his mansion in prime location and another shitty 11 story china block cropping up for everyone else.

[Anonymous No.14241790]

>>14241701
No, I don't think so. If they do the world will be so different that there is no point even speculating.

>>14241722
I was considering talking about Kamchatka since 90% of indigenous people there got wiped out. But Bashkirs, Tatars, Kalmyks, Buryats and tons of other steppe people that Russia early on encountered during expansion still live within her borders and are part of the state. How many natural surviving and incorporated indian societies do you see in the US?

[Anonymous No.14241818]

>>14241761
>I saw none of this in Europe.
It is difficult to see this when you are not local. Italy is also something of a unique case. Tons of historical building get torn down in every major city, though I agree the removal of historical buildings during the USSR was a horror, and current removal of old wooden buildings too. But it happens everywhere. Everyone screamed for cars during the USSR, now they have them.

Also have you seen so-called modern architecture? Ugly glass in white or black, and random glass and angles everywhere. Modern european cities are really fucking ugly, the only ones worth a damn are maintained medieval cities. And Russian medieval cities were all made of wood, which doesn't lend itself to longevity.

[Anonymous No.14241823]

>>14241739
>The current government is a travesty, it does not mean I wish for bad things to happen to the country
Like China getting a "permanent lease" on Siberia with the current govt approval? The EU are not the enemy, nor are the current US strictly speaking. They just want to fuck with Britain serving the terrorists' grandkiddies' black bank accounts and Germany gorging itself on Russian oil and gas, not install an incompetent attemps at PRC digital gulag. It happens that all willing workers of the cocaine fiends in power get a bit fucked in the process. Comes with the job, I guess.
Remember this is coming from a Belarusian, a member of a quite russophobic people. Even I take pity on your kin.
> Maybe we do need another Crimean War scenario (1850, not 2014), something to shake the country up and trigger necessary reforms and reset relations.
Judging how Pu clearly plans to anschluss my country by 2021, you may have it bretty soon indeed. Better evacuate your ass though beforehand, like I plan to.

> Panslavists wanted to create a mega-state to protect all slavs
They protected the Poles well enough, my Polish-side family's butthurt will survive onto Millenium Four of Our Lord.
>and to displace the Turks
And who would replace them on those sweet sunny greenish coasts, I wonder? Clearly not the Poles eating ice beyond the Baikal. A pinch of Serbs and Bulgarians to keep the appearances too.
>and reclaim the lands of Constantinople which was cultural basis and justification for the tsarist autocratic myth
Just like you said. A myth. You can't spread myths instead of butter, the Soviet famines showed that well enough.
> when they equate all of the 80 years of the USSR as bread cues
Oooooh! We have a First Supply Category Region faggot here! Muscovite faaaaaag. Did your ancestors saw bananas more that once a couple years too?
> but at least try to be balanced in your view
There can be balanced view in dealing with Satanic evil. Evil must die.

>>14241761
>but things will change once the older guys keep dying off.
It is almost like they don't have kiddies prepped to run the circus. Granted they hate their jobs, but somebody must run this pretense of a sovereign state, you see.
> I saw new neighborhoods in Finland that would be the utter pinnacle of new construction in Russia just casually cropping up
In other news, no XX century ISIS conquered Finland nor genocided it three times in a row to make their new slaves submit. They dodged the bullet in their own Civil War.
>Instead we get the same fucking idiot mayor since 1996 building his mansion in prime location and another shitty 11 story china block cropping up for everyone else.
I am bretty sure the British Raj nabobs had well built luxurious palaces too, while the common folk shat in the streets. Wonder if the historical parallel goes deeper than that.

[Anonymous No.14241833]

>>14241790
>How many natural surviving and incorporated indian societies do you see in the US?
There are 326 Federally-recognized Indian reservations in the US. Somebody lives there, no? And Canada has its Nunavit for not-Kalmyks to drink themselves to death in.

[Anonymous No.14241880]

>>14241833
Those reservations are not the natural living grounds of those indians, they were pushed around for generations before they finally ended up somewhere that was economically agriculturally worthless, and they are almost all a mix of different tribes with no real continuity other than a few lucky areas in the south west of the US.

In Russia Bashkirs and Tatars live where they've lived for thousands of years, they still maintain themselves as populations within their natural territories and have become their own states within Russia. I think there's quite a big difference.

>>14241823
>Just like you said. A myth. You can't spread myths instead of butter, the Soviet famines showed that well enough.
I am not sure why you involve the USSR, since the Third Rome and Balkans was entirely a Tsarist dealing.
American Dream, Freedom, Democracy is also a myth, yet it has real influence and real power and is the base of real policies and real politics. Third Rome was the same, a real ideology that guided real movements in Russia and lead to real wars and real policies.
Just like the Holy Roman Empire myth had enormous influence on Germany and Europe for many centuries.

>And who would replace them on those sweet sunny greenish coasts, I wonder?
Not the average people living in the frozen north, which is what you were implying.

[Anonymous No.14241884]

>>14241818

>Also have you seen so-called modern architecture?

I have seen some of it. Vast majority of new construction in Germany didn't adhere to it from what I saw. The homes looked picturesque and I met russians/ukranians that left and easily managed to buy in after roughly 4-6 years of working. Fantastically planned neighborhoods with a strong emphasis on local building materials and peoples needs.

>the removal of historical buildings during the USSR was a horror

The renovations of the USSR are baby steps compared to what is happening in the last 10 years. The soviets at least managed to rebuild Leningrad extremely diligent to it's original beauty. The skyline now is completely destroyed and all the old soviet historical neighborhood controls are gone now.

Pic related, I have never seen quite as ugly of a gypsy monstrosity in Europe as I have in my area. The WORST in modern construction (very little from what I saw) in Germany is light years ahead of our construction.

[Anonymous No.14241893]

>>14241616
military or doctor is the easiest choices
cost of living is really high though

[Anonymous No.14241909]

>>14241880
True for some reservations but not for others, especially the farther west you get (reservations in the Pacific Northwest and Alaska come to mind).

[Anonymous No.14241917]

>>14241884
>I have seen some of it. Vast majority of new construction in Germany didn't adhere to it from what I saw.
Travel to Dresden sometime, you will see amazing contrast between the old rebuilt pre-ww2 city, the old GDR commie architecture, and the new modern city. I almost prefer the soviet commieblocks over the modern. The old pre-war cities are of course extremely comfy and livable. But Russia really has nothing of the sort, because of poverty from serfdom, wooden housing that rots/burns away etc.

I think the building you posted actually looks decent, just with a different coat of paint maybe. Look at the picture, this is the pride of modern Norway, while the old city is being torn down bit by bit to make space for more. They can't stop drooling over it in the state media.

[Anonymous No.14241924]

>>14236203

Dostoyevsky is the key.

[Anonymous No.14242011]

>>14241917

>I think the building you posted actually looks decent

Well, that's a particularly disgusting opinion. Either way, I saw entire old neighborhoods preserved larger than my home city in almost every single country I visited in the west (not tourist traps, just regular cities/towns). My own eyes will not misinform me here.

>But Russia really has nothing of the sort

Explicitly false. We do, and it's being razed. We have entire portions of cities that look/looked like fairy tales with the old construction that are being torn down. Vast majority in the last 10 years.

There are several preservation socities that try to block/buy up entire decaying areas to stop this but the damage is here.

youtube com/watch?v=nvBkc1LKVJE

[Anonymous No.14242021]

>>14241616
Study something that requires field research there. That way you don’t have to live there full-time (probably hard psychologically even if the isolation has a romantic appeal right now).

[Anonymous No.14242061]

>>14241588
>>14241599
>Projecting this much
Maybe if you're naked during the winter it's a problem. It's not a problem at all if you have the slightest bit of resources. But then again I'm not a pussy, so idk. I live in Wyoming.

[Anonymous No.14242103]

>>14242021
Like what? Glaciology? I’m studying physics right now

[Anonymous No.14242268]

>>14242103
Could be so many things, but since you’re studying physics I’m not gonna suggest anthropology of First Nations people or something. Geology probably has many applicable subfields including glaciology, but if you wanna make real money (and sell your soul in the process) look into something applicable to petrochemicals. This could still be some sort of geology obviously, but idk if some sort of physics specialty would work too. Alternatively, you could do atmospheric research or oceanography w/ a focus on arctic-related topics (physics would probably be a decent undergrad background for a graduate degree in this, chemical physics is even better if you have the option).

If you don’t wanna work for the petrochemical companies (idk that I would myself) all of these will be applicable to research involving climate change so you will probably still be able to get grants and stuff.

[Anonymous No.14242392]

>>14242268
Books on petrochemical industry and science of it?

[Anonymous No.14242455]

I really like this man, even knowing he is one of Putins lackeys. He has a very interesting and powerful face, deep voice, seems intelligent and well formulated. Peskov for example just looks insane. Are there any other sympathetic people in the current Russian government? Are there any books worth reading about the workings of the current government?

[Anonymous No.14242728]

>>14238199
Look for something about indigenous Siberians or their mythology

[Anonymous No.14242831]

>>14242728
I have idea about making analogous chart for Siberian natives

[Anonymous No.14242847]

>>14241131
>>14240956
>tfw from Moscow
>tfw like it
what are you faggots gonnado, huh?

[Anonymous No.14242851]

>>14241295
the flight of our youth is a much better book from Zinoviev

[Anonymous No.14243027]

>>14242847
Opinion of Americans in Moscow? I know rural people hate us

[Anonymous No.14243048]

>>14236203
Pic related might be what are you are looking for.
Here is an except from it:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/hidden-author-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/04/nothing-is-true-and-everything-is-permitted-peter-pomerantsev-review-russia-oil-boom

[Anonymous No.14243078]

Anyone have any good books on Russian religion?
I am specifically interested in Chechnya and the Caucus region with regards to Sufism, but other unique religious practices would be interesting to read about as well. I've already read a fair amount of Russian Orthodox Stuff.

[Anonymous No.14243083]

Fifth column ITT
Mega cringe

[Anonymous No.14244106]

>>14243027
I don't think rural people hate you. I have relatives in the country and they don't really hate Americans. Most people don't like American government though.

That is true in Moscow too. Most people are disliking the government, but have no real opinion (or positive opinion) on American people. Some people idolize America because they hate evil Russia or whatever, but often they idolize Europe even more. No one will give you problems just for being American if you are not asking for problems.

[Anonymous No.14244115]

>>14241131
reminder that this daughter is going to stanford and never going to come back to disgusting retrograde rashka

[Anonymous No.14244358]

>>14236203
Start with Dead Souls and go from there

[Anonymous No.14244380]

>>14238199
Otherwise known as the based region.

[Anonymous No.14244952]

>>14241917
>But Russia really has nothing of the sort,
Because it has been purposely razed. Koenigsberg received the same treatment dozens of towns and cities received beforehand. They still raze buildings, either they "accidentally" burn or are left in disrepair on purpose. Again, Kaliningrad oblast is a prime example, with old German architecture purposely left to rot and decay with zero fucks given to local Russians much preferring it restored. If you want to utterly destroy some people's sense of history and culture, you will have to raze theier artefacts.


Again, the communists have spewn so many lies few people outside have any sort of idea of what has happened here.

[Anonymous No.14244985]

>>14243027
Belarusian here, maximum rural ancestry.
Nobody hates Americans, unless the weaponized agitprop has conditioned them, and it has been active for 5 years at most. They have no reason to, and late boomers/doomers analogue has grown on American cartoons and films in the VHS era. Unless the locals actively profitted from the Soviet regime, they knew the USSR was lying about everything, but neither they knew anything about the USA that was not some random piece of real info stuck in the agitprop machine, so... you can't really hate what you have zero idea about.
They do actively envy you, every single one of them. Hatred - most improbable, unless a TV zombie.
Also, I knew two Americans who taught English in Moscow. One was a mega hipster from the Washington state and he was totally OK in Russia. The other turned to drugs, lol. Russia breaks people, eventually - but it was most probably the climate and the mood, not gopniks.

[Anonymous No.14245559]

>>14236203
How the BLYAD nobody mention Pelevin yet? Hello? Anyone?
Pelevin is known for capturing the zeitgeist of modern Russia almost perfectly in tune with his Advaita-like worldview.
The late 80's - Omon Ra
The early 90's - The Life of Insects
The late 90's - Generation P ("Generation П", Homo Zapiens or whaever it was translated into)
The mid-late 00's - Empire V
The early 10's - Batman Apollo & SNUFF
The late 10's - Love for three Zuckerbrins

Though one needs to know the cultural contexts, it's postmodernism with many links and citations unknown to non-Russian. I suppose the translators manage to note them down. I suppose.

[Anonymous No.14245578]

>>14238199
Dersu Uzala, I guess.

[Anonymous No.14245599]

Russia would have probably turned into a pretty cool place if the Bolsheviks hadn't gotten all butthurt and seized control of the national assembly.

[Anonymous No.14246106]

>>14245559
“Of course, you don't turn into a shit just because you buy a Mercedes-600. It's the other way round: the reason you can afford to buy a Mercedes-600 is that you turn into a shit.” - Generation П
“The Eskimos have thirty words for describing different kinds of snow, and modern Russian has about the same number of expressions to describe giving a bribe to a state official.” - Sacred Book of a Werewolf
“The USSR, which they'd begun to renovate and improve at
about the time when Tatarsky decided to change his profession, improved so much that it ceased to exist (if a state is capable of entering nirvana,
that's what must have happened in this case)” - Generation П
"The main goal of the state of Russia is not to make a bureaucrat rich. It is to make the a man's life insufferable" - Batman Apollo
"The most mysterious quality of God is His absense" - t.

"In itself a wall on which a panoramic view of a non-existent world is drawn does not change. But for a great deal of money you can buy a view from the window with a painted sun, a sky-blue bay and a calm evening. Unfortunately the author of this fragment will again be Ed—but even this is not important, because the very window the view is bought for is also only drawn in. Then perhaps the wall on which it is drawn is a drawing too? But drawn by whom and on what?
He raised his eyes to the wall of the toilet as though in hopes of an answer there. Traced on the tiles in red felt-tip pen were the jolly, rounded letters of a brief slogan: "Trapped? Masturbate!” - Homo Zapiens

Oh, and the best part on all the Russian public figures of the last 30 years
“Meanwhile the television was still showing the same old repulsive physiognomies that had been sickening the viewers for the last twenty years. Now they were saying exactly the same things they used to jail other people for, except that they were far bolder, far more decisive and radical. Tatarsky often found himself imagining Germany in 1946, with Doktor Goebbels shrieking hysterically on the radio about the abyss into which fascism had led the nation, - Homo Zapiens