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Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:15:54 2019 No.14235373 [Reply] [Original]

Acceptable words to denote dialogue:

>said
>ask
>answer
>reply

Unacceptable words to denote dialogue:
>[EVERYTHING ELSE]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:16:37 2019 No.14235380 the classic reddit take

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:19:20 2019 No.14235391 >>14235373 He ejaculated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:24:24 2019 No.14235424 >"Jenny look out!" he queefed

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:39:30 2019 No.14235490 >>14235373 >screamed >shouted >explained >exclaimed >asserted

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:43:41 2019 No.14235520 >>14235391 Lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:46:21 2019 No.14235544 Go back. Please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:48:44 2019 No.14235552 >>14235373 >>14235490 expressed proclaimed broadcasted announced stated declared articulated mentioned

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:07:07 2019 No.14235661 >niggered

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:08:44 2019 No.14235671 >>14235661 >Banned

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:08:49 2019 No.14235672 >using ANY dialogue tags at all Disgusting

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:08:51 2019 No.14235673 >>14235373 Those tenses specifically or what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:09:20 2019 No.14235674 >>14235373 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:10:42 2019 No.14235679 >not having the entire book be one long, unbroken description of the protagonist's foreskin The plebbest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:14:54 2019 No.14235696 >>14235674 Because if you have to mention, for instance, that your character "asserted" something, you have failed to convey this through the dialogue itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:15:18 2019 No.14235704 >>14235672 t. Hemingway

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:17:12 2019 No.14235714 Writing dialogue expressions like this is the hardest part for me, if i use the ones in OP I feel that the text is flat but if I use more elaborate words i feel like it comes across as try hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:17:18 2019 No.14235716 >>14235696 How do you feel about "whispered" or "mumbled"

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:17:39 2019 No.14235718 >needing crutch words

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:20:16 2019 No.14235735 >>14235696 Have you ever spoken to a human being in your life?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:41:04 2019 No.14235855 File: 134 KB, 316x432, 1529332793872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235679 >long, unbroken >foreskin

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:43:22 2019 No.14235869 ejaculate piously

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:49:39 2019 No.14235909 >>14235373 >"Acceptable words to denote dialogue" he whined, like a bitch.

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:54:02 2019 No.14235938 [DELETED]

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>>14235373
Does not apply to erotic fiction, the most advanced, literary form of fiction.
>"Take your clothes off," she said.
>"Take your clothes off," she demanded.
Which one makes more sense?

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:55:23 2019 No.14235949

>I love you, she said
>I love you? she asked
>I love you, she answered
>I love you, she replied

Contrast with :
>I love you! she exclaimed
>I love you, she whispered

Adding adjectives, adverbs or prepositions can be good too :
>I love you, she quietly whispered
>I love you! she gently expressed

Maybe not the best examples but you get the point. Imagine reading an entire book of she said he said, she asked, he replied.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:57:56 2019 No.14235962 >>14235949 Best post I read today by far

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 17:59:06 2019 No.14235970 croaked is a good one

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:11:26 2019 No.14236023 File: 17 KB, 489x371, just won.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235949 >>14235962 >using adverbs to modify dialogue What kind of YA shit is this? Kill yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:13:05 2019 No.14236027 >>14235672 BASED

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:19:46 2019 No.14236061 File: 24 KB, 283x424, 1DC4D068-6896-4367-A299-7C861257FBAA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Marmonna-t-il

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:22:00 2019 No.14236068 >>14235373 "I love you," quoth he

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:22:58 2019 No.14236074 >>14235949 We’ve all read hundreds of such books. The point is you don’t notice. Not that I disagree affixes like that can strengthen dialog — if done right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:26:20 2019 No.14236090 How do we feel about murmured, boys

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:32:22 2019 No.14236121 File: 22 KB, 375x375, shigdig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235672 >he uses quotation marks

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:38:17 2019 No.14236148

>>14235949
This is fucking terrible advice. The reason people are told to use he said she said is due to amateur writers' propensity to abuse adverbs and other forms of dialogue attribution rather then having that shown through either the context in which the dialogue is said or the dialog itself. Obviously its not a hard rule to just use he said she said. A good portion of dialog doesnt have tags at all.

He put the dossier down on the desk. "When do you think we're getting that report? Soon, I hope."

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:51:28 2019 No.14236202

>>14236148
>>14236074
Of course the majority of dialogue doesn't have tags, as the majority of dialogue doesn't warrant it. My point is if the only tags are "said", "asked", "replied" and "answered" it servers no purpose. On the contrary, adding adjectives and such can strengthen the dialogue on which it is used, instead of adding a self-evident statement, you don't need "she asked" if you have a question mark. I never said if you use those it's automatically good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:53:51 2019 No.14236212 >>14235716 Whispered I like, as it is an affectation. Once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:54:54 2019 No.14236217 >>14235949 Quietly whispered, huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:55:55 2019 No.14236222 >>14236090 Possibly. Once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 19:19:58 2019 No.14236329 >>14235373 >using dialogue at all

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:01:59 2019 No.14236480

>>14235391
The first time I saw this word used in that context was when we had to read Uncle Tom's Cabin in middle school. Me and my friends thought it was hilarious, good times

>There was great running and ejaculating, and opening and shutting of doors, and appearance of faces in all shades of color in different places, for about a quarter of an hour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:03:46 2019 No.14236489 >>14235373 I like ", he lied."

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:06:34 2019 No.14236502 File: 247 KB, 373x380, cricket 4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235373 I like >began For when someone is cut off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:35:53 2019 No.14236663 >>14236489 she believed

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:39:03 2019 No.14236679 >>14235373 BELLOWED

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:41:30 2019 No.14236703 >>14235373 I think "lied", "inquired", and "spoke" are acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:43:18 2019 No.14236725 >>14236703 lied and inquired are both useful for economy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 20:45:56 2019 No.14236746 >>14235714 just drop using these words and just put the quotation marks

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:05:04 2019 No.14236849 >>14235373 ill STATE what i want you fucking cunt

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:19:16 2019 No.14236910 Using all sorts of dialogue verbs are fine, just don't fall into the trap of never using said. Said is still the best and flowiest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:20:45 2019 No.14236921 >>14236849 the absolute state of your grammar

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:46:56 2019 No.14237076 File: 146 KB, 356x256, laughter stops.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235373 Was I the only one who was told by pretentious English teachers in high school that "said is dead"?

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:51:54 2019 No.14237103

>>14235373
Yeah I mostly agree with this. Writing that has to tell you what something is instead of, like, setting up an environment where that feeling is inferred or colorfully explained is usually bad writing. This is unironically why I agree with Cormac McCarthy's stylistic choices. Redundancy makes for bad writing, and punctuation should largely be felt and not read

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 22:59:21 2019 No.14237555 >>14236921 attack my post and i will destroy you faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 03:59:56 2019 No.14238994 File: 13 KB, 137x234, 1372733297414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >10+ lines of dialogue in a row >not one dialogue tag used

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 04:14:30 2019 No.14239073 >>14236202 The purpose of tags is to identify the speaker. That's it. The dialogue/context should do all the rest. If you need an adverb, your dialogue or context is poor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 05:31:27 2019 No.14239281 >>14235949 "I love you Anon...": her warm breath, her blushed cheeks, his big fat cock; I sure do miss my youth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 05:46:34 2019 No.14239302 >he said >she said >bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 05:50:17 2019 No.14239307 File: 434 KB, 1020x592, cow military.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14235391 I dare someone to use this appropriately in their best prose

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:17:42 2019 No.14239353 File: 4 KB, 246x205, 1573788790669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >his "book" has dialogue

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:19:31 2019 No.14239358 >>14235949 >I love you, she quietly whispered As opposed to loud whispering?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:20:34 2019 No.14239363 >>14239307 I ejaculated in your mom's pussy

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:23:17 2019 No.14239365 >>14239363 "Holy moly!" I ejaculated in her pussy. It echoed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:49:13 2019 No.14239424 File: 3.00 MB, 640x532, coomer gif.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14239365 "I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOM!!!" my voice boomed as my dick ejaculated in her womb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 06:50:11 2019 No.14239427 >>14235373 >sayed >say’d >sai’d

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 07:06:43 2019 No.14239469 File: 158 KB, 640x426, 1monkey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he uses words in his writing The absolute state of /lit/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 07:19:47 2019 No.14239504 >>14239469 >1monkey.jpg >there's two monkeys

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 07:52:06 2019 No.14239595

There are books that are lauded as masterpieces that use "he sighed" as a dialogue tag, even when the preceding dialogue is a full sentence. "Blah blah blah blah blah blah," he sighed. No period, just a comma, the second quotation mark, then "he sighed."

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 08:06:49 2019 No.14239645 >>14239595 No book is perfect. Perhaps it could be even better without that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 11:58:35 2019 No.14240506 File: 84 KB, 320x320, 2343434-wariohappy_wl4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14236663

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 12:00:20 2019 No.14240515 File: 2.37 MB, 421x338, 1537476683925.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14237076 >not even allowed to use "said" anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 12:01:09 2019 No.14240518 File: 148 KB, 573x864, Sut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14238994 Heard you were talking shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 12:02:15 2019 No.14240524 File: 128 KB, 473x235, gee bill.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14239504 Anon is quite the devious trickster.

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