Well, /lit/? When did you grow up and realize """""Uncle Ted""""" is no hero?

[Anonymous No.14222015]

>Journal Entry, April 6, 1971

>My motive for doing what I am going to do is simply personal revenge. I do not expect to accomplish anything by it. Of course, if my crime (and my reasons for committing it) gets any public attention, it may help to stimulate public interest in the technology question and thereby improve the chances of stopping technology before it is too late; but on the other hand most people will probably be repelled by my crime, and the opponents of freedom may use it as a weapon to support their arguments for control over human behavior. I have no way of knowing whether my action will do more good than harm. I certainly don't claim to be an altruist or to be acting for the 'good' (whatever that is) of the human race. I act merely from a desire for revenge.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/29/us/excerpts-from-unabomber-s-journal.html

You trust the New York Times, don't you? You're not some tinfoil wackjob, right?

[Anonymous No.14222019]

>>14222015
If he's a wackjob then I belong in an asylum

[Anonymous No.14222023]

>>14222015
No shit sherlock

[Anonymous No.14222025]

I guess I grew up long before you did because I don't care about any author, I care about the content. Couldn't care less if TK was a bishop or a serial killer, he's right.

[Anonymous No.14222026]

>>14222019
You probably do

[Anonymous No.14222028]

>>14222015
>, April 6, 1971
Imagine how much fun he could have been having instead of living in a cabin and being angry about electricity

[Anonymous No.14222031]

>>14222026
So do you

[Anonymous No.14222036]

>>14222025
>muh separate the author from the work

If he's crazy and evil, his ideas probably aren't worth listening to??????

[Anonymous No.14222037]

>>14222015
Wrong. This makes him more in the right. Grow up and realize that “ideals” are just stories you tell yourself. Fighting for them is futile. All that exists is violence and revenge.

[Anonymous No.14222043]

>>14222028
Ted should've been doing drugs and banging chicks

[Anonymous No.14222044]

>>14222036
excellent imitation of a reddit/twitter faggot

[Anonymous No.14222049]

>>14222037
>t. 15 year old edgelord

[Anonymous No.14222052]

>>14222037
>says the psycho

[Anonymous No.14222053]

>Journal Entry, April 6, 1971
He didn't start the bombing campaigns until 1978, in this paragraph he talks about destruction of motorized vehicles used to deforestate his area and the killings of his neighbors dogs.

You've read all the necessary info to make a substantial post, didn't you? You're not some sensationalist anglo, right?

[Anonymous No.14222063]

>>14222036
>muh separate the author from the work
Yes, like the entire world does, except for protestant anglos who can't help themselves but distort everything through the lenses of moralism.

[Anonymous No.14222067]

>>14222053
>mad at the master race

[Anonymous No.14222082]

>>14222063
So much resentment. Have some tea

[Anonymous No.14222088]

>>14222037
>time to leave them all BEHIIIIIIIIIIINDDDDD

[Anonymous No.14222109]

Reminder that Kaczynski was subjected to an unethical psychological experiment at Harvard designed to destroy a subject's ego with hostile interrogation methods.

This is what led him to his theories of industrial society leading to nightmarish systems of mental control. He realized what was being done to him was the development of a prototype.

[Anonymous No.14222114]

>>14222053
Get fucked you kraut bastard

[Anonymous No.14222116]

>>14222049
Run from it while you can.

[Anonymous No.14222118]

>>14222053
>He didn't start the bombing campaigns until 1978, in this paragraph he talks about destruction of motorized vehicles used to deforestate his area and the killings of his neighbors dogs.
Thanks for the information, ted kaczynski was right and even if he had personal motives it makes sense coming from an anarchist

[Anonymous No.14222145]

>>14222067
>>14222082
>resentment
I'm french and the entire french/anglo dynamic is rooted in anglo jealousy. Who would've guessed that autistic moralists would envy their spontaneous, uninhibited neighbors? Well, pretty much everyone in fact. It is known that anglos covet the french, from Dunkerque to Teheran.

>>14222109
Reminder that this is a straight up lie debunked by everyone including ted himself. Imagine spreading disinfo unknowingly, you are indirectly suppressing your own agency. Good bot.

>industrial society leading to nightmarish systems of mental control.
But this dynamic is as old as civilization itself, it's just that industrial society allows for more efficient techniques. Have you even read TK? This is basic freudian psychology by the way, without the implication of libido. Over-socialization leads to neurosis (then freud expanded this to sexual behaviors but it's not relevant to TK, and it is rightful to doubt that every behavior is linked to sexuality) 'We live in a society' basically, but few are those courageous enough to tackle this question without layers upon layers of irony. Domesticated man is beyond pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14222171]

>>14222145
>civilization
not him, yeah but without industrialization civilization would't be as fucked up, before the industrial revolution you had a chance to escape to places far away from it and still live autonomously even with small groups

[Anonymous No.14222178]

>>14222015
That journal entry reads like it glows in the dark.

[Anonymous No.14222185]

>>14222145
>I'm french and the entire french/anglo dynamic is rooted in anglo jealousy
Are you a timetraveller from 1800 lmao
France has been thoroughly cucked by the English for 200 years now, you want to see 'resentment' go to fucking Quebec

[Anonymous No.14222188]

>>14222178
You really think the government would have the newspapers publish something like this to discourage copycats and the idea of Ted as a folk hero? Crazy Man Alert

[Anonymous No.14222191]

The only reason school shooters in-the-making incels here like him is because he was a terrorist and killed people. I've seen similar sentiments being expressed in regards to Timothy McVeigh and even Osama bin Laden on /his/

[Anonymous No.14222260]

>>14222191
do you have a problem with governments killing people? destroying other people land and ruining the environments? or do you think they have the right to that without disturbance

[Anonymous No.14222263]

>>14222260
Calm down dude, I think uncle Ted is based too

[Anonymous No.14222268]

>>14222191
>The only reason school shooters in-the-making incels here like him

You sound like an absolute philistine.

[Anonymous No.14222329]

>>14222037
>t. pussy who's afraid of fistfights

[Anonymous No.14222372]

>>14222145
>Reminder that this is a straight up lie
No, THAT'S a lie.

>This has always been happening it's to be expected you didn't read Freud?

You're a jew, aren't you.

[Anonymous No.14222492]

>>14222015
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.14222995]

>>14222015
Except that this letter doesn't diminish him morally in any way. In fact it elevates him: it shows his honesty.

If you attack evil servants of an evil system, and you admit you're doing it for personal revenge more so than a revolutionary program, I fail to see how it's somehow "bad."

Freedom fighters throughout history have taken revenge against oppressive and evil systems out of anger and personal retaliation. It doesn't automatically mean that the system they were attacking wasn't evil, or their actions weren't morally vindicated. One thinks of slaves in the antebellum south, or jews in nazi ghettos. And anyway, he soon adopted hope and revolution as a practical strategy after this note.

[Anonymous No.14223037]

>>14222015
I don't care about what he did. He was an autistic man who wrote outside his depth because he thought his status in academia immediately gave him the privilege to do so competently, who became popular because resentment has been growing in the United States at an alarming rate since the 60s.

[Anonymous No.14223314]

>>14222995
>One thinks of slaves in the antebellum south, or jews in nazi ghettos
Those examples discredit your point tho

[Anonymous No.14223335]

>>14222026
Based

[Anonymous No.14223613]

>>14222015
When I read Ellul and realized Ted copy and pasted + rants about """""leftists"""""

[Anonymous No.14223793]

>>14222037
But the basis for revenge is an ideal, reminder that selfishness is still an ideal. A person without ideals would never seek revenge.

[Anonymous No.14223880]

>>14223314
Ah 4chan

[Anonymous No.14224089]

>>14223880
You're retarded for typing it in the first place lmao

[Anonymous No.14224099]

>>14223793
??? you can have and do both.

[Anonymous No.14224444]

>>14222995
>One thinks of slaves in the antebellum south, or jews in nazi ghettos
Of course these are the two examples the redditor immediately thinks of kek

[Anonymous No.14225011]

>>14224444
I'm usually not one for superstition, but it is amazing how dubs/trips/quads/etc are so often based.

[Anonymous No.14225025]

>>14222015
How do we know that the CIA didn't alter his writings?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14225205]

>>14222015
The 90s

[Anonymous No.14225437]

He still based.

[Anonymous No.14225452]

>>14222028
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.14225551]

https://dark-mountain.net/ted-kaczynski-and-why-he-matters/

Here is more nuanced view of the guy. Yeah, he initially began to bomb as systematic revenge for the system's encroachment of his land, but as time went on, he became more aware of what he was fighting for. He gained a sense of "mission".

[Anonymous No.14225577]

>>14223613
His bombings brought those ideas to the mainstream. If anything I have to thank him for that.

Now that young people are held hostage by these new technologies so much that they're causing them to commit suicide at increasingly younger ages, I'm sure a new genertion of people are going to see this madman and say softly to themselves "he was right". From there, some of those will read Ellul. (Me)

[Anonymous No.14225578]

>>14222372
Not him but the MK Ultra shit is obviously blown out of proportion to make TK seem crazy and dissuade people of actually reading his writings.
So the real conspiracy is about exaggerating the MK Ultra conspiracy, at least in this case. That and that bullshit about him being a tranny.

[Anonymous No.14225588]

There's a difference between the quality of a person's ideas and the quality of their character. He can be right and still be no hero. Morality does not interfere with the logical validity of factual propositions.

[Anonymous No.14225605]

>>14222036
how about have a look at the ideas first and decide that after, you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.14225673]

>>14222015
> You trust the New York Times, don't you? You're not some tinfoil wackjob, right?
No. I don't trust those Kikes at all.

[Anonymous No.14226486]

>>14225578
This

[Anonymous No.14226815]

>>14222178
this
unless we have a comfy picture of his own handwriting like the one he wrote btfo'ing mathematics

[Anonymous No.14227236]

How will a post-singularity society be? Will we be like the rat experiment or will we left humanity behind and all its limitations to not end that way?

[Anonymous No.14227336]

>>14222015
He relies entirely on circular logic and conjecture in order to defend his thesis, not worth your time in the first place.

[Anonymous No.14227357]

>>14222037
cringe

[Anonymous No.14227854]

>>14222015
heres the thing, I had to grapple with his actions, and came to this conclusion. As a christian I think that violence upon innocents is wrong (even if they were merely symbols in his view) - this does not mean I buy into common christcuckery, there is no tolerance in not killing normie fools who know not were the stumbling block lay, it is as darkness. But Ted acknowledges this, he does not believe his actions to be for the good, his philosophy is his good, his notions are the good; he was a man that we broke, and then - as broken machines are wont to do - it hurt those nearby it. But we must see, all of our forefathers in the old testament as examples, that man cannot possibly go without sin, it is an impossible feat. Read other anarchists, not the edgy ones no, and youll find that all the coherant ones have their doctrines based in christianity. Platos philosophy in the republic is anarchism, if every man was a philosopher king, and ruled himself, no one would rule over him, and all would be well. Anarchism is the only christian form of government, but there are few people that can uphold the social contract without a gun to their head, and thus the hell of modern politics is spawned. A constant compromise of man with himself, sickened at his lack of self control, and yet bathing in its light, rejoicing in the corruption of other man, as he corrupts them more. Anarchism is for the individual. Ted began to act as the individual, the particular, except he wasnt christian, so he didn't have any reference to look to as to how he should act, as christians do with the Universal. He isnt a hero, hes a case study, as to how a virtuous man can fail, when he is full of himself, and worldly virtues, and not full of God and Godly virtues; the world comes to crush man, comes to bring on hell to man, but God does not crush man, and brings only salvation and forgiveness. also /thread

[Anonymous No.14228388]

>>14222037
>t. starts crying when he gets angry

[Anonymous No.14228421]

>>14228388
you will pay for making fun of me.

[Anonymous No.14228450]

>>14222015
>One time, as I was walking across the huge bridge that connected the two campuses, I passed by a girl I thought was pretty and said “Hi” as we neared each other. She kept on walking and didn’t even have the grace to respond to me. How dare she! That foul bitch. I felt so humiliated that I went to one of the school bathrooms, locked myself in a toilet stall, and cried for an hour.
damn :/

[Anonymous No.14228493]

>>14228421
get a tissue lad

[Anonymous No.14228543]

>>14227854
they weren't "innocent." your whole argument collapses.

[Anonymous No.14228570]

>>14227336
lol. sure bud. try to attack the logic of one of the world's preeminent mathematicians/logicians without giving a single example.

[Anonymous No.14228873]

>>14222015
>being aware that you cannot save the world with pipebombs but can get 15 minutes of fame for your ideas means you are no hero
Retarded, and probably proud of it, too.

[Anonymous No.14229774]

>>14225205
why arent you filtered, are you changing your trips or is my browser bugged?