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I was in one of the moods where I felt like doing nothing so I decided to write a poem. It was elementary school level, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I want to continue writing poems.

>> No.14221297

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>>14221170
Read it and write it. There's a few good suggestions on the LIT recommended reading page that would be useful resources for learning.

>> No.14221769

>>14221534
Thanks.

>> No.14221783

>>14221170
Do you want to share it with us anon? I would like to read it

>> No.14221785

Read a book on renaissance art

>> No.14221792

>>14221170
Try to write without ANY abstractions first (God, love, truth, etc) otherwise will be cringe. Any time you use an abstraction, try to think of an image that could replace it. Learn about meter. Avoid cliches.

>> No.14222254

>>14221783
It's really simple. https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Y1ORfr4U-9UO_lZewVfBMCEx94hjKvKQspECc_eLNU
>>14221785
Which book would you suggest in particular?
>>14221792
Aren't abstraction necessary, though.

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>>14222254
>It's really simple. https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Y1ORfr4U-9UO_lZewVfBMCEx94hjKvKQspECc_eLNU
I don't know much about poetry, but I thought that was quite nice. Good job anon, please continue writing them. Good luck!

>> No.14222338

>>14222294
Thanks. I have a lot of idea, but I'm not sure how to properly go through with implementing them. Like you, I don't know much about potery, but I know there are certain rules depending on which type.

The type of poems I like tend to be descripitions of scenes (like a family enjoying a day in a park after a snow storm) or storries.

>> No.14222451

>>14222254
>Which book would you suggest in particular?
I can only recommend you one author, a german speaking swiss from the days of grey photography: Heinrich Wölfflin. His books are available in translation and for free on the internet archive. I recommend his introduction to italian art, his book on Dürer and his theoretical work on the principles of art history (in this order). What you'll learn and feel is the appreciation for craftsmanship, for keeping the right measure, for labouring over minutia.

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>> No.14222603

>>14221170

Find a poet you like (lots of websites) and try to copy their style but with your own ideas. Then do this with other poets of different styles. Read poetry and try to articulate what is good/bad about them. /Lit/ crit threads are actually quite good for this, read some poets and try to critique them. This develops your reading skills. The articulation helps you to realise how the poet achieves effect with word choice and structure.

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>>14221170
I have a few books in can recommend u senpai

The Ode Less Travelled is probably your best bet for starting, teaches you the basics like metre, form etc

if you want something a little more comprehensive, John Lennard's Poetry Handbook is really good. from there, I would pick a poet you like and find consume every bit of criticism on it that you can find

>> No.14223556

>>14222451
>>14222461
Thanks.
>>14222603
Okay, I'll give it a shot.
>>14222968
I'll and it to my reading list right away.

>> No.14223800

Practice, repetition, and mimicry.

You have to try it yourself to really get the efforts of others, at least that was my experience.

Write some. It will be terrible, but will increase your capacity for appreciation.

Find ones you like. Rewrite them in a journal. Flop some words around to see why the ones that were written were actually the right ones. Then rewrite it with your own vocabulary and contrast/compare. Learning to borrow from the greats is how you improve the fastest.

Write notes in your poetry collections, too. No one else is gonna read them so who cares.

The single best thing I ever did was try and rewrite The Love Song of Alfred J Prufrock in my own style. Of course, I never showed it to a soul, and why would I? But everything I wrote after that inherently had attributes of what I idolized but could never reproduce prior. You get the bones of a poem down well, and you understand why the leg bone connects to the hip bone.

Also, it's 2019. Using words like "thee" and "thine" is derivative as fuck and will roll the eyes of every reader.

>> No.14225028

>>14221170
Read poetry. For every poem you write, read at least 5 published poems.
Some good recommendations:
>T.S Eliot Selected Poems
>American Journal by Tracy K. Smith
>Howl by Alan Ginsberg
>A.E Housman
>One Train May Hide Another by Kenneth Koch
>Literally anything by Robert Frost
>Life on Mars by Tracy K. Smith

Also, I recommend reading smaller publishers as well--your book store might have a section dedicated to zines of poetry. They're not great (think: po-mo garbage) but thats whats trendy nowadays and it'll help get you published. Based off your current work, I'd really recommend digging deeper in to that isolated/lonely feeling and really trying understand what it means to suffer--then write a poem about it.