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What are good reads on how to actually practice vedantic meditation?
I've read a lot of philosophy but it's hard to know how to apply that to actual meditation practice.

>> No.14204877
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I like Eknath Easwaran. There's only so much you can and should do by yourself. You need a real world teacher.

>> No.14204882

>>14204815
The Yoga Vasistha has explanations of a lot of different meditations, visualizations, ways of developing a continual awareness etc. Also, 'I Am That' has a lot of good material.

>> No.14204895

>>14204882
also, I would add Vivekachudamani as well

>> No.14204915

This is packed with practical instruction and you'll find the core concepts in just about every tradition.

http://www.innerworlddesigns.com/circle/book12/pdf/Robert%20Bruce%20-%20New%20Energy%20Ways.pdf

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The second form is breathing, becoming aware of breathing. As the breath goes in, your belly starts rising up, and as the breath goes out, your belly starts settling down again. So the second method is to be aware of the belly, its rising and falling. Just the very awareness of the belly rising and falling ... And the belly is very close to the life sources because the child is joined with the mother's life through the navel. Behind the navel is his life's source. So when the belly rises up, it is really the life energy, the spring of life that is rising up and falling down with each breath. That too is not difficult, and perhaps may be even easier, because it is a single technique.

In the first, you have to be aware of the body, you have to be aware of the mind, you have to be aware of your emotions, moods. So it has three steps. The second sort has a single step: just the belly, moving up and down. And the result is the same. As you become more aware of the belly, the mind becomes silent, the heart becomes silent, the moods disappear.

And the third is to be aware of the breath at the entrance, when the breath goes in through your nostrils. Feel it at that extreme _ the other polarity from the belly _ feel it from the nose. The breath going in gives a certain coolness to your nostrils. Then the breath going out ... breath going in, breath going out....

>> No.14205005

imagine falling for ideologies in 2019

it's all empty

>> No.14205012

>>14205005
>it's all empty
That's an ideology though

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>>14204815
Autogenics is what you really want.

>> No.14205020

>>14205012
No, an ideology is a system of ideas.

Empty = devoid of that

Enlightenment is a meme for westerners

>> No.14205027

>>14205020
I'm not really interested in hearing your opinion I just want books on vedantic meditation thanks

>> No.14205030

>>14205027
Sure, i'm just warning you that you're wasting your time, thats all.

been there, done that all.

>> No.14205041

>>14204815
I tried meditation, but it didn't sit well with me.

>> No.14205047

>>14205030
Well then I'll find it out for myself rather than giving up on the pursuit of knowledge to align myself with a anonymous person on 4chan.

If all is empty than what I can find meaning in is ultimately the most important so your warnings are entirely moot.

>> No.14205049

>>14205002
Breathing isn't even that powerful and your advice is actually crummy.

Also Osho/Ranjeesh is a cult leader whose many crimes icluded attempted biological warfare on the residents of a small Oregon town.

>> No.14205051

>>14205047
You're right on that actually

>> No.14205060

>>14205049
>Breathing isn't even that powerful
i bet praying to a jew on a stick is powerful lol

>> No.14205061

>>14205041
Cute

>> No.14205063

Why don't you guys just take DMT like lmao imagine wasting your time reading books on this topic, just take shortcut to the truth

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>>14205019
Based

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>>14205063
Why don't you just do "wim hof" breathing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btUb55DTH-s

>> No.14205092

>>14205060
It actually is if you're fighting evil. Reminder that Christians defeated and drove your cult leader out of their community.

If you're meditating though, the most powerful methods involve the progression movement of awareness through the chakras and nadis.

If that's free weights breathing is adding resistance bands and a lifting belt. Good technique to add in, but not the be all end all and not even the best starting point.

>> No.14205105

>>14205089
I would like to keep the oxygen saturation of my blood high no thank you

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>>14205092
dude i know hard core christains are on each and every board trying to do whatever they need to do. I feel like christians are 4x more cunning than politcians at this point.

>> No.14205115

OP here.
>>14204877
So basically just repeat scripture to myself.
Ok I'm going to repeats passages of the kena upanishad to myself.
>>14204882
How is the shortened Lahgu version?
>>14204895
I'll give it a read.
>>14204915
I'll read this I guess but it's not striking at my heart that much

>> No.14205129

>>14205092
Any good reads on this.
Katha upanishad says the more important meditation is that which brings the conciiusness through the central nadis

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>>14205115
>I'll read this I guess but it's not striking at my heart that much
Robert Bruce is kinda goofy but his techniques are solid, and easy to modify and adapt. Give his basic exercises a try for thirty minutes and see if you get some mileage out of them.

Also, be careful you're not being attracted to systems simply because they're exotic and have market-tested branding. Trust me, it's a great way to waste a hell of a lot of time.

>>14205129
See >>14204915
The book is all techniques for doing that, cover to cover.


PROTIP FOR BEGINNING MEDITATIORS: Do not move your focus outside of your body and visualize looking at yourself. This can lead to meditative dissociation, which isn't dangerous, but can be disturbing and will interrupt your work. Can take between an hour and a day to recover from.

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>>14204815
Also these

>> No.14205369

>>14205115
>How is the shortened Lahgu version?
not bad, but I would strongly recommend reading the longer one translated by Venkatesananda and published by SUNY. It's such a good text that you don't want to miss anything. It consists of a bunch of short stories and narratives that are mostly unconnected, so you dont have to commit to reading the whole thing right away, but can read a chapter every now and then and still be able to absorb and benefit from the teachings in it

>> No.14207094

>>14205063
It's possible to reach states while completely sober that far surpass anything reachable through any sort of psychedelic

>> No.14207112

>>14205020
It's a system of ideas that has only one idea, that is, all is empty.

>> No.14207134

Curious, for those practicing meditation. Are you also balancing a healthy diet and staying fit. I feel like without your body being in tuned your mind wont be effective.

>> No.14207138

>>14207134
of course