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Anonymous Mon Nov 18 16:58:21 2019 No.14192773 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /lit/ hate the fact that people study philosophy and literature at universities?

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:05:41 2019 No.14192818

>>14192773
Because we all know that the only true way of studying philosophy, as far as I'm concerned, is through crash course videos on YouTube and by skimming the synopsis of philosophical articles on Wikipedia. This are the only way to achieve total knowledge and the legitimate intellectual heirs of the Socratic method. This walks and quacks like b8, so it's probably bait. For real tho universities no matter how prestigious and such are never perfect and sometimes those imperfections stand out much more than anything else. If you have a nutjob professor who teaches you his dogshit version of things then you're better off going to your local library and reading what you're interested in by yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:09:09 2019 No.14192830 >>14192773 because actual philosophy and lit students are the most useless people you'll ever encounter, even more useless than 4chan neets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:13:25 2019 No.14192849 >>14192773 Because universities are doing it very poorly. Besides, the best way to study philosophy is in quiet contemplation with oneself. Also, by directly studying the texts of interest when ideas run dry.

>>	Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD Mon Nov 18 17:56:02 2019 No.14193063 File: 13 KB, 195x245, BL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Studying is for automatons; learning is for persons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:58:32 2019 No.14193079 File: 9 KB, 213x237, retard alert.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14192773 >Why does /lit/ hate the fact that people study philosophy and literature at universities? People? They're called midwits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:00:52 2019 No.14193091 >>14192773 >paying to study philosophy >paying to think

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:07:45 2019 No.14193127 >financing some pseud prof so he can act cool and work part time while writing his thesis on the philosophy of the Simpsons No thanks, two years was enough for something you can do on your own (Google the book no meme)

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:26:00 2019 No.14193213 >>14192773 because they're insecure capitalist automatons who seethe at the thought that anyone else might live a good life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:30:07 2019 No.14193224 File: 34 KB, 500x281, tumblr_munjklOBFP1sq1hzao1_500[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >imagine majoring in something useless for securing employment >HA >oh noes... thats me actually

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:33:27 2019 No.14193238 >>14193224 >wanting to be a wagecuck anyone this trope isn't even true, look at median career earnings. Philosophy outstrips biology and other supposedly 'practical degrees'

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:33:29 2019 No.14193239
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>>14192773
Because society spends a lot to finance higher education, and if there isn't a financial return from certain fields then those fields aren't necessary for society.
>inb4 philosophy is needed
Yeah, people like Descartes. Not retards like you, on who we spend most of the wasted capital I mentioned. Even the lowliest chemist that will never advance human knowledge contributes to society. His equivalent philosopher is a glorified NEET.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:35:24 2019 No.14193251 File: 42 KB, 550x543, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14193239 >Because society spends a lot to finance higher education, and if there isn't a financial return from certain fields then those fields aren't necessary for society

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:38:21 2019 No.14193264 >>14193239 >muh economy. philosophy majors make more money than chemistry majors if you look at mid-career median salaries. Most people who major in philosophy don't go to graduate school to be philosophers, they enter the workforce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:39:42 2019 No.14193268 File: 302 KB, 676x405, Screen Shot 2019-11-18 at 5.38.59 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how will /stem/ ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:40:16 2019 No.14193273 File: 10 KB, 251x242, 32f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14193239 >implying society, capitalism, and science don't all owe their existence to philosophy

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:41:39 2019 No.14193282

>>14193268
and this is graduates without higher degrees. This probably disadvantages philosophy as philosophy majors do the best on graduate school entrance exams (LSAT, GRE, GMAT) and therefore probably place the into the best programs at the highest rates.

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:43:21 2019 No.14193290

>>14193251
Zero philosophers were needed for you to post that. Now just try to grasp how many engineers, mathematicians, technicians, construction workers, miners, farmer, physicians, and security, were needed just for you to have access to the internet, electricity, and cheap electronics.
>inb4 philosophers were involved as well
>>14193273
>>14193264
Yeah, the mega famous ones. Not philo grads out of your community college.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:47:27 2019 No.14193305 File: 130 KB, 1024x554, Happiness_hero_1_v21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14193290 seems to me like a potent philosopher has more impact than an army of STEM majors

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:48:01 2019 No.14193307 >>14193290 look at the chart posted retard. It doesn't include the 'mega famous ones'

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:57:37 2019 No.14193360 >>14193290 Boole, Frege, Carnap, Turing, Church and so on were all philosophers and were essential figures to computers being invented dummy. Any ol retard can put fiber optic cables in a hole. Not anyone can invent computers lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 18:59:58 2019 No.14193371 >>14192830 You'd be surprised at who CEOs look at for non-technical/scientific positions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:02:18 2019 No.14193387 I don't like a lot of the people who study philosophy because they're really not as smart as they think they are. These people will read a few chapters of a few books by somebody like Aristotle and they'll think they know something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:03:57 2019 No.14193396 File: 265 KB, 679x405, Screen Shot 2019-11-18 at 6.03.25 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14193387 explain pic related

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:06:03 2019 No.14193407 >>14193387 or discern that philosophy in general is a shit discipline, they have studied and formed conclusions which makes them interesting, they have actually fucking done something which puts them ahead of most

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:07:33 2019 No.14193414 >>14193396 What would I have to explain?

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:10:48 2019 No.14193435

>>14193414
>philosophy majors aren't as smart as they think they are

here's evidence that they are smarter than everyone except maybe physics and math majors. Of course, this is only one metric, but it's hard to imagine a metric that wouldn't have similar results.

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:13:55 2019 No.14193457

>>14193435
I'm not talking about intelligence. I gave the example of somebody reading a few chapters of Aristotle and then thinking they know something about him. That would be somebody who isn't as smart as they think they are. Really though, you can just fuck off. This is such a stupid thing to argue about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:17:36 2019 No.14193468 >>14193457 You sound like a Dunning-Krug yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:18:32 2019 No.14193470 >>14193457 leave /lit/ and don't come back

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:18:43 2019 No.14193471 >>14193468 Yeah of course you would say something like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:21:46 2019 No.14193483 >>14193470 I just might.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 19:55:36 2019 No.14193652 >>14193396 Philosophy majors don't have jobs, so they have a lot more time to study.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 20:59:42 2019 No.14193892 >>14193652 are you retarded? Look at the first chart. >>14193268 Philosophy majors make more money than chemistry, biology, business and pysch. So explain again how it has to do with having no job?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 21:04:01 2019 No.14193913 >>14193290 I think you might be retarded in the head. Like... you know... a fucking piece of shit. Try browsing other boards, you might find your place in the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 22:03:00 2019 No.14194185 >>14193091 based

Anonymous Mon Nov 18 23:33:25 2019 No.14194599

>>14193892
Seems like a bunch of bullshit charts made by philosophy majors to justify they money they shelled out for worthless degrees. I'm a mid-career business major from a big state school and I make $140k. I doubt most philosophy majors from my school are making more than that. And I think I am doing pretty average for my major.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 02:36:30 2019 No.14195238 >>14194599 >chart cites wsj study >thinks anecdotal evidence that one business major is doing well economically is a counterexample behold the power of the business major

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 02:46:15 2019 No.14195270 >>14193063 fun fact: "person" derives from the word "persona," meaning "mask".

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 02:48:17 2019 No.14195275 >>14192773 Because I'm not going to go into fucking debt over it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 02:51:57 2019 No.14195281 >>14192773 The average person can benefit from philosophy through self-study without the need to pay for academic indoctrination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 03:01:36 2019 No.14195304 >>14193360 Yeah, Peirce literally invented the CPU.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 03:03:40 2019 No.14195310 >>14193387 You're probably speaking to dilettantes, studying is the antidote.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 03:41:04 2019 No.14195398 >>14193268 >>14193396 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 04:37:59 2019 No.14195525 >>14194599 what do you do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 04:44:21 2019 No.14195553 >>14193282 You wont get anywhere with and undergrad in eng/math.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 06:17:27 2019 No.14195779 >>14195281 >>14195275 You Americans. You do realize that you're part of a minority stupid enough to pay for degrees, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 07:36:13 2019 No.14195983 >>14195779 >have degree whatever don't care >don't have degree forever insecure about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 19 09:20:08 2019 No.14196356 >>14193091 >paying to study

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