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Where do I start with Dostoevsky?

>> No.14185919

>>14185908
Learn russian first, then read the bible.

>> No.14185929

>>14185908
The idiot desu. Also don't learn Russian it was co-created by a blvck man.

>> No.14186169

>>14185908
just don't. He is very addicting you might get your life destroyed.

>> No.14186231

>>14185908
Crime and Punishment. Leave his masterpiece, Brothers Karamazov, for last.

>> No.14186241

>>14185929
The Idiot is the worst place to start with Dostoevsky. C&P is the best gateway.

>> No.14186262

>>14186231
This.
c&p
notes from the underground
demons
idiot
Brothers K

>> No.14186292 [DELETED] 

>>14185908
His well-known works:

- Notes from Underground
- Crime and Punishment
- The Brothers Karamazov & The Idiot

Later you can read the lesser-known works, some are not as good and "deep" as the others, others are very good despite not being as psychologically complex

- The Gambler
- White Nights
- Humiliated and Insulted
- The Gentle Spirit

Probably a few more.

>> No.14186301

>>14185908
His well-known works:

- Notes from Underground
- Crime and Punishment
- Demons
- The Brothers Karamazov & The Idiot

Later you can read the lesser-known works, some are not as good and "deep" as the others, others are very good despite not being as psychologically complex

- The Gambler
- White Nights
- Humiliated and Insulted
- The Gentle Spirit

Probably a few more.

>> No.14186488

>>14185908
just don't start with the Notes.

>> No.14186491

>>14186488
I started with Notes and it was one of the first books I picked up after starting to read "seriously" and it's the book that really got me into reading more because it was so amazing.

>> No.14186492

Notes, the double, c&p

>> No.14186515

>>14186491
Well, my bad, sort of. It's always a mystery to me why people like it so much, and I still tend to think that, had scholars NOT stated that the Notes are crucial to understand Dosto in general (which is probably correct), people wouldn't 'like' it so much. I may be wrong.

>> No.14187632

Is the entirety of House of the Dead worth reading or is the excerpts that come with Notes enough?

>> No.14187652
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14187652

>wanting to read fiction

>> No.14188071

>>14185908
The only book my dad has from him is Crime & Punishment, is it a good book to start with? I don't want to buy any others (unless absolutely necessary) in case I don't like them

>> No.14188087

Crime and Punishment. It's entertaining but still lets you explore Dosto's ideas.

>> No.14188105

>>14186515
What scholars? I only read it because it was shilled so hard on r9k back in 2015

>> No.14188161

>>14188071
if you can't even read this thread I'm not sure you should read Dostoyevsky.

>> No.14189629

>>14188105
I couldn't tell since I'm not into secondary lit at all. It's pretty obvious though that the Notes usually stand out as Dosto's most important 'short' work, and I'm not convinced that it was already the case 120 years ago. It could be the subject of a study in history of publishing and translations. I dunno when exactly it 'became' so big. If it became a classic very early, let's say before 1900, then I'm just wrong. My take is that the whole 1940-1950 philosophy thing about existentialism etc. (or maybe just phenomenology a little earlier) makes the Notes appear essential whereas from a strictly lit point of view they're not.

>> No.14189661

>>14185919
Fpbp came to post this

>> No.14189690

>>14186491
I was the opposite and started with cp then bros k. Cp catapulted me into classic literature

>> No.14189795

>>14189629
You're crazy, how is it not a great "lit" book? I'd argue it's even one of the greatest.

As for the history I can't tell, but we know for example that french and German translations already existed in the 1880s and Nietzsche was incredibly enthusiastic about it calling one of the best books he had ever read.

And to this day the book has an incredible legacy and is still one of the most acclaimed by him and in general. Seems like you simply dislike it and think everyone else should share your opinion.

>> No.14190274

>>14186262
switch idiot to be ahead of demons

>> No.14190288

>>14186241
>cp
you disgust me.

>> No.14190385

for germans: lest die swetlana geier übersetzungen

>> No.14190401

I read all his short works first, because they were available in my local library. Did I fuck up?

>> No.14190403

>>14190401
No

>> No.14190415

>>14185908
i feel like its better to start with his shorter stories and notes from the underground before you read crime and punishment or karamazov

>> No.14190478

>>14190401
I see his short works as independent from his 5 big books post-exile.

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>>14190385
>mgw "Verbrechen und Strafe" statt "Schuld und Sühne"

>> No.14190617

>>14185908
The Gambler

>> No.14190885

>>14189690
MODS

>> No.14191476

>>14189795
you're right, I completely forgot about Nietzsche.
I'll read another translation someday and see if it doesn't look so bad to me.

>> No.14192061

>>14190274
No. The Idiot is terrible.