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14185524 No.14185524 [Reply] [Original]

>mfw "Schopenhauer was not a pessimist but a realist"

>> No.14185632

>>14185524

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvjLW18cVxg

>> No.14185648

>>14185524
Pessimism is realism that's why is not liked, optimism is liked because it causes a placebo effect and placebo is real, liking optimism is an evolutionary advantage

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>>14185648
Pessimism isn't realism. Like with most things in life, the truth is often found somewhere in the middle, amidst a sea of greys.

>> No.14185720

>>14185524
>Throws down a flight of stairs

>> No.14185722

>>14185708
Shut up hegel cucks get the rope and that pic is not very hegelian

>> No.14185813

>>14185524
I don't know where this "Schopenhauer is depressing" meme comes from but when I read him I feel relief and comfort instead of sadness.

>> No.14185823

Schopenhauer was the heir of Plotinus.

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Schopenhauer thread? I just read the PSR. Post Schopenhauer memes!

>> No.14185845

>>14185813
This, he paints a bleak worldview but he offers salvation

>> No.14185942

>it's a "schopenhauer randomly goes on a 3 page rant about how much he hates hegel again" episode

>> No.14185973

>>14185813
Because you are either depressed or posing as such
>>14185845
The weak path to salvation. The cuck one

>> No.14185980

>>14185720
Based

>> No.14186003

I find him refreshingly down to earth and eminently simple (in a good way). I know it's partially on purpose because he wanted to be the complete opposite of Hegel's obscurantism but the result is extremely pleasant.

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>> No.14186204

>>14185813
This, extremely comfy and right about (almost) everything. He strays from the truth in his ethics when advocating denial of the will-to-live. Nietzsche is the fix to this.

>> No.14186341

>>14186204
Nietzsche isn't really the fix since he and later existentialists failed to overcome nihilism. Just an attempt at a fix.

>> No.14186371

>>14186341
He provides the path to a fix. He himself stumbled on this path proving how difficult it is.

>> No.14187007

>>14186204
Right about what? Just a loser perspective that others losers will find true based on their personal experience of the world. Does this make it the truth? Far from it. Life is suffering, for example, is a categorical statement that doesn't ring true for a lot of us. If you spend your life reading and being bitter about stuff you don't have instead that find ways to reach them this is the result.
If you are clinically depressed is another matter, but if you are just lazy this is the result: you find truth in foolish philosopher.

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Bump

>> No.14187390

>>14187007
Schopenhauer’s philososphy is more than just the statement ‘life is suffering.’ He has a whole epistemological and ontological framework too, not to mention his aesthetics. Furthermore your reduction of suffering to reading and being bitter shows clearly you do not know what he meant. Please do yourself a favor and read instead of opining on topics you have a meme understanding of. Not only will this spare you further embarrassment but maybe you will also gain insight into why men such as Einstein, Schrödinger, Jung, Tolstoy, and Wagner were proponents of Schopenhauer.

>> No.14187416

>>14185524
He is a pessimist of the nature of desire, but he is an optimist in the fact that there is some way to escape the state of desiring into aesthetic bliss.

>> No.14187681

>>14187390
Lmao the retard just googled Schopenhauer and read the sentence "life is suffering" on Wikipedia and thinks criteria of truth in philosophy is "personal experience of the world".

>> No.14187719

>>14185524
Philosophical pessimism isn't the same pessimism you hear colloquially. He could be a pessimist and a realist.

>> No.14187737

>>14185524
Who was it who said that Schopie wasnt a true pessimist but just a failed optimist? Nietzsche, right?

>> No.14188009

>>14185720
Did...Butterfly just make a good post?