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now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?

>> No.14179733

Dionysus

>> No.14179737

>>14179729
Both are faggots

>> No.14179739

>>14179729
Orestes

>> No.14179742

Jesus=liberal
Dionysus=conservative

>> No.14179743

Nigga, there aren't any links between the figures. You're botching history.

>> No.14179747

>>14179729
Jesus was a subverter from the beginning.

>> No.14179833

>>14179729
Jesus Is God, He's the one and only one.

>> No.14179851

>>14179833
Saturn is also god. What now?

>> No.14179859

>>14179739
I actually chuckled at this, and started thinking that maybe butterfly wasn't as bad as I had thought.
>>14179851
And then butterfly made this useless post, and I'm back to having the same thoughts about butterfly.

>> No.14179870

>>14179851
you're right, he is god not God as the other anon said

>> No.14179905

>>14179739
Proof that you never read his trilogy. Orestes isn't a god. He made a choice in which either option would have been wrong, and was punished for it. That led to a trial involving Athene and Apollo on either side, and resulted in changing the function of the Furies.

Aeschylus wrote the play as an appeal to democracy (Sparta had just defeated the Delian league) and men's rights (the Spartans granted women ownership over their unborn, which Athenians deemed inappropriate).

>> No.14179913

Besides the virgin birth why do people think they're the same?
As far as I can tell even that garbage "Jesus is Krishna" argument has more merit

>> No.14179914

>>14179729
Jesus was pure. he died virgin for our sins

>> No.14179952

>>14179913
it's a reference to Nietzsche's "the crucified vs. dionysus" how new are you?

>> No.14179990

People like a tragic figure, and people enjoy drinking with friends. Dionysus is always shown to be the newest of the Olympians. The same could be said about Hercules except that the point of Hercules are his exploits as a mortal man.

Simply put: Zeus rapes a woman, Hera jealously tricks the woman into getting Zeus to swear on the Styx to show himself to her in his full glory. The woman sees Zeus as he is and burns to ashes, but Zeus saves the unborn Dionysus by sewing him into his own thigh. Much like Athene, Dionysus springs to life fully grown and glorious. As the god who simultaneously lost his mother and his chilshood, the Dionysus would have appealed to soldiers as well.

That's an overview of the general myth. Dionysus has his own cults and plays, and is usually shown to be as terrible as his fellow gods. In Euripides's The Bacchae he is upset that his mom is no longer worshipped at the place where she died. He comes dancing into town with his harem, hangs out with the king who doesn't believe him to be a god despite numerous dire warnings. The king ends up being torn limb from limb and mostly devoured by the harem. The king is carried home in his mother's arms (literally) while she eats him like chicken.

>> No.14179999

This is like asking which side is superior, heads or tails

>> No.14180008

>>14179914
A man can't be a virgin.

>> No.14180100

>>14179729
where does this equivalence of the two even come from

>> No.14180199

has no one is this thread read nietzsche?

>> No.14181425

>>14179905
I wasn’t calling him a god. No, the choice he made was wrong, and it wasn’t Apollo and Athena on opposing sides. “Athena” was chosen as judge, IE patriarchal Athens chose wrong in the end.

>>14179859
What exactly are your reasoning for this?

>>14179913
Some aspects of Dionysus’s story were grafted onto the Jesus story by the cult’s founders. Same as Mithridates

>>14180008
They’re always virgin, by your standards

>>14180100
Obscured history

>> No.14181454

>>14181425
>Some aspects of Dionysus’s story were grafted onto the Jesus story by the cult’s founders. Same as Mithridates
ZEITGEIST LIE.

>> No.14181466

>>14181454
>Fiction is a lie!!!
Uh-hu.

>> No.14181468

>>14179851
you are but a spook, a mere phantasm, as far as i am concerned

>> No.14181485

>>14181466
The cult of Mithras and Dionysius have little similarity with Jesus

>> No.14181486

>>14181468
You are nothing more than an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato.

>> No.14181498

>>14179729
Ask >>>/his/

>> No.14181525

>>14179729
Jesonysus

>> No.14181533

>>14181485
Mitridates the person, the actual living emperor.

>> No.14181607

>>14179729
where's Apollonius