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This guy didn't go far enough. Technology isn't the problem; humans are.

>> No.14165178

>>14165174
>being a biological life apologist
Life is a blight on our planet

>> No.14165189
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>>14165174
You can thank christianity for that.

>> No.14165235

>>14165174
If humans are the problem, and you're a human, then what's the problem?

>> No.14165297

i feel like he wouldve written better stuff if he didnt get ratted out too early.

>> No.14165320

>>14165178
based Mainlander

>> No.14165322
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>>14165178
The animated carbon refuses to grasp the immorality of its stasis. We must show it, such that all may know that life is a violation of a sacred natural canon.

>> No.14165546

Ah, back to Christianity I see. Good choice.

>> No.14165557

>>14165546
>christianity supports the eradication of human life

>> No.14165565

>>14165174
He didn’t smash technology though. He blew some humans up.

The problem is systemic. People can and have lived better.

>>14165557
It does. They think they’re bringing god back for Armageddon. They like climate change

>> No.14165574

>>14165565
Butterfly, you're the worst person to ever post on this board. I hope you take that personally.

>>14165174
No, read Ellul.

>> No.14165584

>>14165174
Your the problem Anon. The world is perfect. We all just need to realise it and give thanks.

>> No.14165592

>>14165297
You realize he's published like two or three books from prison right?

>> No.14165604

>>14165584
>The world is perfect.
[citation needed]
>We all just need to realise it and give thanks.
Thank who or what?

>> No.14165622

>>14165592
its not the same. he lost when he got caught

>> No.14165678

>>14165604
I like how you don't question the fact that your the problem.
>[citation needed]
I'm not going to do your thinking for you, as much as you might want me to.
>Thank who or what?
You already know.
>Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.
-Proverbs 21:2

Every person believes after their own manner anon. Keep seeking and you will find. Be honest and you will know peace.

>> No.14165696

>>14165678
I'm the one who should be questioning myself, and not you?

>> No.14165790

>>14165696
he's just really big fucking brained and delusional

>> No.14165796

>>14165174
nope

>> No.14165840

>>14165796
yep

>> No.14165953
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>>14165174
Can life prevail?

>> No.14165959

>>14165174
> wah, I'm mentally ill
> no, wait, it is the WORLD that is wrong!
Many a pseud have traveled this path, though few so spectacularly

>> No.14166318

>>14165574
You are a literal baby-head. Get well soon.

>>14165584
>Your
>>14165959
He isn’t any more mentally ill than the sociopaths fucking the environment over for some spooky cash.

>> No.14167212

>>14166318
Why do you care so much about the environment?

>> No.14167249

>>14165953
Ahhhhhh muh dick

>> No.14167288

>>14166318
Ted was socially inept until he ran away from everyone and did it. You really think his philosophy preceded what made him avoid people his whole life anyway?
Obviously the guy had issues with communicating his feefees.

>> No.14167840

>>14165174
http://www.3-3-3.org/docs/Kaczynski's%20comments%20on%20McVeigh.htm

>> No.14167847

>>14165174
>Technology isn't the problem; humans are.
He did target humans did he not?

>> No.14167952

>>14167288
Of course, but I don’t think that makes him insane.

>>14167212
What the fuck?

>> No.14167964

>>14165174
we lived in harmony with nature and still some are (savage tribes/nomads and others trying like varg) until Technology and civilization came and fucked shit up so much and in a fast scale but maybe you are right because humans now are dependent on technology

>> No.14167972

Life is literally a technology lol. The demarcation between AI and brain is completely arbitrary.

>> No.14167985

>>14167972
check the mail

>> No.14167989

>>14165174
The real problem is the existence of carbon

>> No.14167996
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if anyone want to read his stuff start with this one, its short and gets to the point

>> No.14168001

>>14167964
We did not live in 'harmony' with nature, we lived in all out constant warfare with it until we suddenly got a lot more powerful and it became more of a massacre

>> No.14168008

>>14168001
we did and we still do, old humans had very respect for nature and even didn't pick all the berries and fruits to give for nature

>> No.14168019

>>14168008
Deluded.

phys.org/news/2017-01-humans-climate-australian-megafauna.amp

>> No.14168025

>>14168019
im not going to read about some poop they found so you win

>> No.14168026

>>14167989
No, it's the carbon group. Not just carbon.

>> No.14168279

>>14165174
Humans aren’t the problem;
Consciousness is

>> No.14168286

>>14165174
False. Language is the problem. If we didn't have language we would have no problems.

>> No.14168292

Abolish causality

>> No.14168555

>>14166318
You've never post anything that wouldn't be at home on the Reddit front page. Your presence immediately ruins any thread you post in. No one has ever read a single thing you've posted and been better off for it. You will never be a girl and your parents will never not be ashamed of your existence.

>> No.14168915

>>14165174
>listens to Ildjarn once

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>>14165174
Based and Linkolapilled

>> No.14168959

>>14168915
heard about this band is it good or generic no riffs black metal?

>> No.14168960

>>14165174
boring philosophy.

>> No.14169463

>>14168555
Wow. If I ned to know anything about Re**it, I’ll be sure to ask you, chief. You’re the expert.

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>>14165174
muh turns out humans were the monsters all along

>> No.14170596

>>14165174
Woah. Deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM1-DQ2Wo_w

>> No.14170605

>humans are the problem
For whom?

>> No.14170694

>>14170605
humans

>> No.14171335

>>14165178
heat death when

>> No.14172753

>>14170605
me

>> No.14172758

>>14165174
The rational brain is a parasite on the ecosystem is it not?

>> No.14172797

>>14165174
He'd never agree with that. He's a neochristian obsessed with free will, rights etc all. In fact I'd argue his thought process is barely seperatable from liberalism. If you're interested in anti people deep ecology then look into Pentti Linkola.

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>>14165174

>> No.14172888

>>14165574
*She's* right here though. The Christian mindset only makes sense if you see that they don't care if they fuck the Earth, because they believe that if they did it would all be part of God's plan. This absolutely has to be plainly called out.

>> No.14173291

>>14168279
Consciousness isn't the problem. Existence is

>> No.14173369

>>14172888
(I thought butterfly was a tranny)

>> No.14173428

>>14173369
That's what I was implying.

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>>14165790
> dur the book does the thinkin' for me! Sinner.

>> No.14173544

>>14168555
> you will never be a girl

That's just cruel maine

>> No.14173554

>>14170605
> whom

Cringe.

>> No.14173793

>>14165174
Whoa.

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>>14165174
>This guy didn't go far enough. Technology isn't the problem; humans are.
no. humans and technology aren't the problem. You guys need to go further.

the mind is the problem. This guy went deep.

>> No.14174195

>>14167972
t. demonic entity

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>>14171335
Soon.

>> No.14174572

>>14174195
Extrapolate this.

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>>14174572
Technological progress is just the demon summoning itself, a la Nick Land's AI.

>> No.14174601

>>14174592
Sure but why? Or is this your axiom?

>> No.14174629

>>14174601
Take it as my axiom, I'm not learned or eloquent enough to defend it. But I've come to believe it over the past few months, seeing the recklessness of AI researchers that treat their object of study as a silly toy, and the influence that technology has which can be described as demonic insofar it completely destroys any established order.

>> No.14174655

>>14174629
>over the past few months
Don't fall for the media buzzwords or corporate hype. AI has been stagnant for over 30 years now.

>> No.14174670

>>14174655
I know that, and I do not believe we will be capable of actually reaching the point of having what people generally consider as "true AI", or sentient, or however you wanna call it, so I'm not afraid about that. I don't really watch media about it either. I've just gotten more interested in deep eco and all that stuff.
Advances in automation will start causing serious social upheaveal though, not the same thing but related.

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14174681

The problem is the fact humans are interconnected and cannot survive without other humans, so they need to conform to technological advance.

>> No.14174683

>>14165953
I’m finna prevail my dick in that thot

>> No.14174691

>>14174670
>>14174655
as if any breakthroughs will be made public instantly. we will be too old to care once it gets declassified

>> No.14174721
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>>14174691
Something like this?

>> No.14174737

>>14165174
you are a human kill yourself and fix the prblem

>> No.14174756

>>14174691
>breakthrough
That's not really how software evolves, unfortunately. Things are pushed forwards by novel approaches attained from decades old research papers that are barely related to the new application.

Governments and big corporations keep hardware secrets, but are notoriously bad at software.

The amount of talented people who program as a hobby is astronomical. Private entities can barely compete in terms of quality. Compare Linux to Windows/MacOS. Linux may have a smaller market share, but it blows the other two out of the water.

>> No.14175036

>>14174721
yeah but it only talks about the model that existed since wwII. the world wars were lower tech but defines what that picture is describing even before mass tv. only made obvious because the common man now has his own market monitor in his home. which means it is safe to do so. the metadata scandal was just a minor slip, that guy would be dead if he knew anything more. no one knows in what ways data is being used now other than recreating human faculties. the same way boomers cant grasp memes, there is surely something that exists now that will boomer us in a few decades.
>>14174756
thats all still consumer end knowledge. everything we are free to buy is just leftover tech. and even with highspeed trading theres no way to track the market 100%. its not insane to say today that governments, big corporations or banks are not the only authority. i wouldnt know what of course. but its important to not be so self assured if we want to learn about what boomers are going through now. because it will happen to us.
im convinced ted knows way more than he let off in his books at that time. possible he is still being hushed

>> No.14175382

>>14173291
This. We need to find a way to destroy all creation, but I fear that's impossible.

>> No.14176730

>>14170605
Ted because he was a total loser and had no friends

>> No.14177461

>>14174681
Please somebody tell me how to live without other humans

>> No.14177467

>>14177461
That's only possible in death

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>>14165174
based master asia

>> No.14178273

>>14177461
the only way is to get hardcore into stem, become an uber hacker, steal and sell credit cards, throw around fuck you money for a few years and off yourself when the feds come knocking. /lit/ only hates stemchads because they get paid for being smart, and when they don't, they can partake in the primal chad act of taking