Insecure right-wing racist, secixt and etc

[Anonymous No.14163798]

Suggest me a book to become at least center left

[Anonymous No.14163805]

>>14163798

[Anonymous No.14163809]

the audacity of hope by barak obama

[Anonymous No.14163816]

>>14163798
you don't need a book you need to find your nearest high-rise

[Anonymous No.14163821]

Chris Hedges is the go to "left winger that even right wingers approve of"

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14163825]

No. Full steam ahead

[Anonymous No.14163831]

the audacity of this nigger by b. hussein

[Anonymous No.14163978]

>>14163798
Get into something arty, increase your openness and learn to appreciate beauty. You should realise how tasteless so many right wingers are, that their reductive world views come from a mix of fear of complexity and lack of imagination, hiding behind traditions they don't understand and masturbating to mediocre pastoral pieces. you won't suddenly wake up a retarded leftist, you can also still wear nice suits

[Anonymous No.14164002]

>>14163821
seems like a complete cuck desu

[Anonymous No.14164018]

>>14163798
>please tell me books to argue for this worldview I want to adopt

[Anonymous No.14164027]

Foucault
LoTR
Harry Potter
Jordan Peterson
Zizek
Marx
Trotsky

[Anonymous No.14164041]

>>14163798
Your views are fueled by a hopelessly simplistic view of human beings, as well as a lack of empathy on the most basic of levels. I'm not saying you have to love refugees or whatever. What you (I assume) lack is just the basic acknowledgement that you are dealing with beings of the same category as you. You may know it rationally, but you do not feel it. To fix that, you just have to read. I don't know what will "click" for you but for me it was Tolstoy. Reading War and Peace did something to my psyche that I can't fully articulate, but I noticed that I was gradually becoming less concerned with race and all the other right wing nonsense, more willing to think about the lives and circumstances of other people and so on. That's lethal poison for right-wing ideology.

[Anonymous No.14164055]

>>14164041
I bet you became a naive cosmopolite too.

[Anonymous No.14164082]

>>14164055
What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.14164083]

>>14163798
Why? Just be yourself, nobody is going to fuck with you if you're not autistic.

[Anonymous No.14164192]

>>14163798
>Insecure
You're already getting there buddy, no help needed

[Anonymous No.14164507]

>>14163978
Shit advice. I love art but don't want to give gibs to retards.

[Anonymous No.14164520]

>>14163798
Centre left is the most intellectually vacuous part of the political spectrum. Go to one of the extremes or at least stay where you are.

[Anonymous No.14164914]

>>14163978
Mate leftists reject objective beauty and end up producing straight ugliness. I mean cmon.

[Anonymous No.14164940]

Isaac Deutscher's The Prophet

My reasoning is that maybe it will resonate with some sense of order, discipline and higher purpose that are common to young right-wingers

[Anonymous No.14164988]

>>14164041
>everyone is in the same category as me is not a simplistic view of human beings
woah, that is deep

[Anonymous No.14165021]

Mainstream culture is now libshit and I bet you hate it, so maybe reading Dwight Macdonald and Adorno you'll find a left-wing, Marxist way to frame your thoughts about it and understand these theories more intuitively.

[Anonymous No.14165288]

>>14164988
I was addressing a self-professed "insecure right wing racist and sexist", and speaking from my own personal experience as a former insecure right-wing freak to give what I think is good advice about how to get out of that mindset.

You can absolutely be right-wing and not an incel weirdo. But not of the kind that's often practiced here on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.14165561]

>>14163798
So where are you on the compass exactly?

[Anonymous No.14165756]

>>14165288
Paranoiac freaks exist in every race and nation. Whereas THOSE freaks fight to take from you, WE freaks fight to protect you. This breed of right-wing fanaticism is self-justifying; we are trying to protect our own from people just like us that the "accident of birth" has clothed in different skins. Maybe this is cynical, but where else would history come from if not from us uncompromising beasts for whom the battle for supremacy is always immanent, beckoning, calling to arms?

[Anonymous No.14165866]

>>14165756
I'm sorry but dumb lonely lower class goons like you contributed nothing to history, save for being swept up by people with power and utilized for their ends. I get the appeal of having this meta-narrative about you being a part of a war to defend your people from crazy muslims or the globalists or whatever. But it's stupid. You never fought anyone. You never defended anything. You are not a warrior. You are an (upper) middle class white guy with an OK education who posts mean things on the internet, and nothing more. And I'm not speaking down to you like I'm some fucking operator who is "in the know" about some hidden knowledge. I'm an average guy as well, but I grew bored with these stories. They're childish, reductive. Shallow. They became unfit to describe the world once I accepted the idea that I'm dealing with people of comparable complexity to my own psyche. And I don't mean it in a political theory sense (like a hobbesian view or something) or an unreflective lib attitude that "duh we're all equal it's like in the constitution or whatever". I just accepted that I'm always dealing with beings whose inner world is more similar to mine than different, and in the same ballpark in terms of complexity.

As for people who in your mind are like you but different, by which I think you mean jihadists and the likes, you are right to recognise them as kindred spirits, but you're wrong to place them as your counterparts in this meta narrative about a clash of civilisations. They're just lonely goons who were born in a different place, and they're just as impotent as you. Yes, they're more organized and they killed some people, but that led to little or no political change on either side. ISIS was scattered, and even the most shocking acts of violence (like the one where they gunned down a hundred people) ultimately ended up in nothing.

In short, this stuff leads nowhere. It's a simplistic world view made by and for socially stunted young men which consists in part of baseless hatred mixed with dumbed down and twisted analysis ripped off from actual theorists.

You know, this is why normalfags find you guys repulsive, almost on instinct. There are many types of people whom society finds unacceptable but I think that the dorky right-wing incel types are especially reviled because the normalfags can just smell that kind of autism I was talking about earlier. They just instinctively know that the people they're disgusted by lack a basic building block to being an adult and they can't help but despise you for it.

[Anonymous No.14166003]

>>14165866
Spot on

[Anonymous No.14166098]

>>14165866
I would say you have me(?) pegged down pretty well. These hyperbolic posts I make with a heavy heart and half (only half) in jest, because I know your normalfags are right to be reviled by the formless misanthropy of goons hopped up on Strength and Hardness and Supremacy.
But I see this type of person as an overcorrection rather than a pure defect. People are very hungry indeed for meta narratives. The mistake perhaps that the bourgeois Hitlerite makes is choosing to embrace the strawman world of perpetual struggle and "Hate" that liberalism justifies itself against. That is the world that apparently haunts our culture, and so it is almost by reflex that misanthropes reach for it. Not to put you on the spot, but what would you say is a better meta narrative?

[Anonymous No.14166137]

>>14166098
this. There is a world of difference between recognizing the relevant facts and thusly being opposed to the ideological mainstream and on the other hand embracing a strawman created by the mainstream out of rebelliousness or some other sort of antisocial tendency

[Anonymous No.14166174]

>>14163798
Go hard right. It's liberating to identify as something people hate. Even if you don't believe in it at first, the way people treat you will make you a believer. You can be just like me, friend. Doesn't that sound nice?

[Anonymous No.14166213]

>>14166137
like this guy >>14166174

[Anonymous No.14166251]

>>14166098
>but what would you say is a better meta narrative?
We wouldn't have all the crappy stuff if something good was lying around that I could point to. I don't know shit. I am only ahead of you (if at all) insofar as I posses enough ability to reflect on my recent past and how my view of the world changed throughout the years, and articulate what seems to me a common thought pattern for at least some people on this website. I can only encourage you to read more and to not shy away from complexity. I think political theory can offer readers some very nuanced and well articulated views on human behavior and how an individual fits into the wider world. My favourites are Rousseau, Machiavelli, Marx, and Nietzsche. And like I said in my initial post reading more good fiction is I think necessary for people like us to feel and internalise certain truths that normalfags naturally grasp. It's trite advice but it's all I've got.

[Anonymous No.14166324]

>>14166251
I love Rousseau's discourse on inequality (without really buying it, lol). I've read all of those besides Marx somewhat extensively and I think it's worth doing so, but I'd hazard not to let the consensus formation process fly over you. To me there's something of a Lasch-Deneen-Tocqueville axis in the ether that will be enormously influential sooner than later. Good chat though

[Anonymous No.14166464]

>>14165561
Exetreme authoriarian right

[Anonymous No.14166482]

>>14163798
Left-wing racists are where it's at.

[Anonymous No.14166521]

On Liberty and The Subjection of Women by John Stuart Mill for cultural stuff
For center-right economics (by today's standards) Progress and Poverty by Henry George and Agrarian Justice tend to be the more convincing cases for welfare for those further right.
Liberalism by Leonard Hobhouse for a center-left political philosophy that's not for outright gibs but supports stuff like a job guarantee.

[Anonymous No.14166530]

>>14166521
Agrarian Justice by Thomas Paine*

[Anonymous No.14166734]

>>14163798

Preventing Violence By James Gilligan

Why Some Politicians Are More Dangerous Than Others By James Gilligan

Bad Samaritans: The Guilty Secrets of Rich Nations and the Threat to Global Prosperity By Ha Joon Chang

The Locust Effect: Why the End of Poverty Requires the End of Violence by Gary A. Haugen, Victor Boutros

Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity and Poverty by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson

Adverse Childhood Experiences ACEs: why all the fuss: England, the North East and Cumbria by Dr Wendy Thorley Editor, Ruth Whiteside, Elly Chapple

If you get through those books, and aren't center left by the end of them, then you can congratulate yourself on reading the best arguments against being a right wing racist.

[Anonymous No.14166762]

>>14163798

I would also take what the other anon said seriously, and read some good literary fiction, concerned with morality and the human condition. e.g. C.S. Lewis, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky.

Till We Have Faces By C.S. Lewis.

[Anonymous No.14167023]

>>14164018
How retarded are you?

[thog No.14167028]

>>14166734
>>14166762
coomerr shit

[Anonymous No.14167031]

>>14163798
Mein Kampf is a perfect example. Nazis We're socialists, everyone knows that.
>>14163978
Badass words from someone who can't conceive of the retarded concept of "class warfare" simply not applying to some interactions.

[Anonymous No.14167032]

In practice the square is a triangle.
Authority only works one way, authority is unironically convergent towards an economical horseshoe.

[Anonymous No.14167046]

>>14167031
i don't mind mixing left stuff with right or the other way around, yeah don't become centrist but look at Hitler he was revolutionary and not reactionary and now when trad people act reactionary they automatically lose, now its like Wiemar Republic if you are reactionary you are just helping them , whatever you are studying both literature is good

[Anonymous No.14167057]

>>14167046
>when trad people act reactionary they automatically lose,
Hard agree. "Conservative" is an ideological trap. I'd rather be Eternal

[Anonymous No.14167424]

>>14163798
Fuck politics just stay home playing videogames.

[Anonymous No.14167451]

why do you want to 'become' anything? is it because you want a new set of friends and a new daddy? can't you just make up your mind on a case by case basis like a true Lord?

[Anonymous No.14167458]

>>14163978
>their reductive world views
>says the retards that reduce everything to class, the gdp, science, or identity politics

[Anonymous No.14167467]

>>14165866
>meta-narrative
>simplistic
>repulsive
>reviled
>childish
>meta-narrative
>disgusted
>incel
cringey reddit post tbqh

[Anonymous No.14167470]

>>14163798
CONQUEST
OF
BREAD
alternatively HOMAGE TO CATALONIA

[Anonymous No.14168561]

>>14163798
Read fascist and monarchist authors and realize the reason the conservative right sucks so much is that it's reactionary, but for a system that is itself incredibly cringe, ugly and pathetic

[Anonymous No.14168576]

>>14165866
imagine writing an essay to call someone a virgin

[Anonymous No.14168672]

>>14163798
This thread op.

>>14163805
>Assertion that not being a right-winger instantly makes you gay so that you will not deviate.

>>14163809
>Milquetoast ghostwritten neoliberal biographies meant to introduce you to the most midwit arguments in favor of the status quo in the hopes that you will not deviate.

>>14163816
>Assertion that suicide is the superior option so that you will not deviate.

>>14163821
>A genuine recommendation for a left-wing writer responded with >>14164002 which asserts said writer is a cuck so that you will not deviate.

>>14163825
Anarchist trying to get you to deviate.
My descent into the right was predicated on depression and anxiety, and these kinds of comments stoke exactly like that. Right-wing politics feed off of and embolden these emotions. Read what you want to read, make your own path OP.

[Anonymous No.14168691]

>>14164914
Is there some beauty nested in everything or is beauty an exclusive quality?

[Anonymous No.14168708]

>>14168576
Imagine thinking that a post of fewer than 500 words is an essay. Also, the point was to express my view that the world-view that is propagated on this website and in similar places is rooted in a childish and simplistic understanding of human beings, and that the best way to get out of it is by reading good literature, which goes back to what I initially said about reading Tolstoy, which is what did it for me.