/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14163491]

Can rap be considered a legitimate form of literature?

[Anonymous No.14163498]

>>14163491
More so poetry I think? Aesop Rock is one of my favourite rappers and his wordplay and use of metaphors is incredible & he’s given me a lot of ideas in my own writing

[Anonymous No.14163514]

>>14163491
There were a handful of backrap type rappers in the 90s and early 00s that seemed sort of poetic. Ive forgotten all their names by now. The only guy I can think of is Mos Def, he sometimes had poetic lyrics, the song Respiration is a good example

[Anonymous No.14163554]

>>14163498
whitest thing ive read all day

[Anonymous No.14163572]

no literature is reserved for whites only

[Anonymous No.14163781]

>>14163554
Well I am white anon so there’s that

[Anonymous No.14163965]

>>14163491
Go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.14163994]

>>14163491
Yup. MF DOOM has the best characters in his music. If Flying Lotus has someone featuring on a track, things get pretty trippy too.

[Anonymous No.14163996]

>>14163965
what are you even saying you drooling retard
jesus christ i hate this site

[Anonymous No.14164008]

Yes but no one has done it yet.

[Anonymous No.14164045]

>>14163491
no, rape is a disgusting deed that, by essence, cannot be performed with any kind of art

[Anonymous No.14164060]

'My fingers tap buttons with sanctified awareness
From heart scan to pulse readings
This a voice from a dead dimension without astral projection
The sluggish rugged discuss bunk that hovers
Acme lab rat escape barely breathing through the heating vents
I'll try to come back for my family before the poison feeding commence'

Yes. 99% of it is shit though

[Anonymous No.14164074]

>>14164045
What about that scene in the Fountainhead? also that thing Dagny did to Rearden in Atlas Shrugged with him crying at the end and her laughing could be considered rap, and all objectivists agree that both are really artistic books.

[Anonymous No.14164079]

This song is actually really good in terms of poetic storytelling. It’s not very sophisticated but it’s manly:
https://youtu.be/4X5EMqY8kYo

[Anonymous No.14164095]

>>14163491
It's closer to poetry. Either way it depends on the rapper

[Anonymous No.14164111]

>>14164060
>tfw also clicked on this thread to post cannibal ox
I had Iron Galaxy in mind but based anon

[Anonymous No.14164130]

>>14163996
He said "go back to /pol/".

[Anonymous No.14164146]

>>14164111
good taste alert
hahaha yeah I love Cannibal Ox. Haven't found any other rap groups with the same sort of poetic poise as them, so if you've got any recommendations shoot.

[Anonymous No.14164147]

Nas is genuinely amazing. NY state of mind evokes some really vivid imagery of NY ghetto life in black neighbourhoods. His interview with the American poetic association was cringe though; you could tell there was a large cultural divide.
This song of his is my favourite. A letter to his friend in jail.
https://youtu.be/Qjd7EbUUds8

[Anonymous No.14164176]

>>14164146
>good taste alert

[Anonymous No.14164179]

>>14164147
those 90s beats are so fucking satisfying.

[Anonymous No.14164195]

>>14164146
Only thing that comes to mind are solo artists. They were mentioned earlier in the thread but try Aesop Rock and MF DOOM if you haven't already listened to them

Milo is also pretty /lit/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SUS4jIA7Zw

>>14164176
Nobody cares

[Anonymous No.14164202]

>>14163498
Wow, this is perhaps the cringiest thing I've witnessed in a very long time.

[Anonymous No.14164216]

eyes wide open
cast my gaze upwards to astral spheres in motion
I reflect on life a moment
seeing on all sides horizons, I walk on an ocean
colours blend, a commotion
of liquid light swims of the surface
licking my calves
these stars descend like curtains
when the show is over
and I make a quiet journey homeward

[Anonymous No.14164241]

>>14164202
this whole thread is cringe and retarded, when did we fall to /mu/ standards?

[Anonymous No.14164253]

>>14164179
If nothing else, you’ve gotta give it to the blacks for the music they create. Jazz, rock and roll, rap. They’re a musical people, even if they’re inferior in most other regards.

[Anonymous No.14164334]

>>14164241
When it became acceptable to replace philosophers with stand up comedy routines, and philosophy/literature with pop music. The degradation of art began with Jazz and modern art though.

[Anonymous No.14164341]

>>14163491
rap is the philosophy for the mentally disabled

[Anonymous No.14164358]

>>14163491
No. Western Africans are incapable of producing real art. Technically speaking, they are not human beings and a different subspecies altogether, so the only people who can "appreciate" their art are those who bring their minds to subhuman status. Blacks are incapable of inquiring into the deeper metaphysical mysteries of life or reflecting on their own internal mental processes. Even gorillas are far more noble. Moreover, many animals are far more self-aware and intelligent than them too, such as crows and cetaceans. In this sense, eating blacks is a lesser evil than chicken, but the issue lies in how their bodies are disgusting, toxic, and ultimately bad for you. I prefer vegetarianism, in all honesty, so thus, I only advocate ethnic cleansing of blacks and all of their friends.
I do not consider any other race on the level of blacks except peninsular Arabs (e.g., Saudis) because they mixed with them a lot. They should be ethnically cleansed too. If you oppose me, then I, in return, will advocate for your rightful, just death.

[Anonymous No.14164366]

>>14164358
what about the Juden?

[Anonymous No.14164377]

>>14164334
Yeah, but this board didn't used to be like this. This was probably a bait thread and faggots here are taking it seriously.
How can you unironically believe that rap is literature when most of the time it's barely music? It's the average American really this much of an uncultured retard?

[Anonymous No.14164378]

>>14164358
I'm hearing a lot of talking. You're a talker. How's that working out for you? Being a talker?

[Anonymous No.14164383]

>>14163491
>>14163491
Now as the world turns, when will us black people learn?
Before we had a perm, we came from Adam's sperm
You see with plain vision, we live in the same system
Cocaine victims, once was able, can't even raise children
Where's 'the village' when you need it?
A question for the person in the looking glass
Our community's lookin bad like a bucket full of crabs
That's the crooked path
If we don't straighten this out, how long would it last?
Every night you hear the bullets blast
Even if you in the suburbs every night, you see the footage flash
Across your screen, I'll tell you my biggest pet peeve
You lookin at it thinkin like, "It don't affect me"
You livin' large I'm thinkin like, "It don't impress me"
Rockin them chains, Sojourner Truth is tryin to set free
It don't take a pro-fessor
To see the o-pressor got the whole treasure
Now how many Africans slain for one platinum chain on yo' dresser?
I'm no better just because I think I know better
Tell me who you trust when you're in your new trucks
Some of us dyin over a few bucks, killers old enough to ride a school bus
With brothers like these tell me, who needs the Ku Klux?
Women walkin with titties out cause the truth sucks
It's time to breastfeed, knowledge is the best key
We got us pourin liquor out for all the dead G's
Rest? Please, in the grave you gettin less peace


See in America they flamed bottle rockets when slaves was not abolished
Slayed a lot of fathers and raped a lot of mommas
Them days cotton products, we blame our modern problems
New ways they got us bondaged, the chains is psychologic
The media be feedin us napalm atomics
While the schools brainwash us, the crayons is toxic
Don't believe the hype, they can save all the drama
Cause them apes not evolving, I can't swallow ya vomit
My rights as a human they change laws in congress
Now Shaytan in office, we can't call him honest
What part of the game do they play, cops or robbers?
In this land of Pocahontas, natives lost to conquest
Your false gods get framed, buffed and polished
If you ask who the prophet, they say Nostradamas
No ways of Muhammad, no pray five at Kabbah
Definition of a terrorist, they call Islamic
So many brothers puzzled and can't solve they problems
Smuggle crack, juggle rap, or play ball in college
But Uncle Sam, hustle man, take all your dollars
Break y'all, sink them 8-balls in your pocket
I'm chosen like Moses, here to take y'all to promise
My quest started when Tip say "Lost my wallet"
We all gotta get it, the mules, acres was promised
But the skeletons came out the closet
Now some of y'all black folks is still patriotic
Dyin in wars, so who you think make the profit?

[Anonymous No.14164385]

>>14164366
I believe all of the literature, historical sites, identity, and recorded history of all Abrahamic faiths should be eradicated and those who resist promptly eliminated. This includes Jews, Muslims, and Christians. I also believe that Jerusalem and Mecca must be decimated, salted, and those who resist killed.

[Anonymous No.14164396]

>>14164377
>It's the average American really this much of an uncultured retard?
It's the influx of children who gained unlimited access to the internet after the widespread availability of smartphones. There used to be barriers of entry, but not anymore. That's why quality has dipped.

[Anonymous No.14164397]

>>14163491
ive never in my life seen any smart person legit listening to Rap so there

[Anonymous No.14164401]

>>14164385
and the amigos from the Latin Americas?

[Anonymous No.14164402]

>>14164202
Why are you guys so mean to me when I’m just trying to be sincere :(

[Anonymous No.14164407]

>>14164334
Jazz is great

[Anonymous No.14164412]

>>14164402
Develop your tastes and sensibilities and we won't make fun of you for being a low IQ pleb.

[Anonymous No.14164413]

>>14164401
I don't dislike anyone except Western Africans, those heavily admixed with them, and Abrahamic cucks.

[Anonymous No.14164414]

>>14164407

[Anonymous No.14164421]

>>14164407
Jazz is technically difficult to play because it is nonsense devoid of musical structure. Its merits beyond that are very limited.

[Anonymous No.14164426]

>>14164413
and what about the words of the Bhagavad Gita?

[Anonymous No.14164428]

>>14164407
Classical is to Jazz, what jazz is to rap, what rap is to mumble rap. It is the degradation of music.

[Anonymous No.14164430]

>>14164426
Good. I highly respect Dharmic traditions even though I disagree with them.

[Anonymous No.14164436]

>>14164421
If you do not have an education in classical music, please, abstain from commenting on this topic.

[Anonymous No.14164443]

>>14164413
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.14164444]

>>14164421
brainlet with little to no understanding of what a broad genre "Jazz" is
>devoid of musical structure
>see Paul Whiteman

[Anonymous No.14164452]

>>14164436
>>14164444
Seethe harder.

[Anonymous No.14164456]

>>14164452
ill make it even easier for you. surely someone as uncultured as you has head of
>Rhapsody in Blue

[Anonymous No.14164462]

>>14164456
>ill make it even easier for you
You can make it not so easy.

[Anonymous No.14164522]

>>14163491
Jazz is postmodernism made acoustic. Rap is instagram posing made acoustic.

[Anonymous No.14164547]

>>14163498
>>14164079
>>14164147
>>14164383
Why do you care so much about what life is like in the black ghetto?

[Anonymous No.14164549]

>>14164396
Yeah, but still. I live in a third world country, and retards who don't bother reading here don't go around pretending to be "poets" or listeners of "poetry". The only people that like to pretend that are faggots in college campuses, but the uncultured retards don't even acknowledge their existence. They just keep themselves to their gettho stuff.

It amazes me how the american equivalent of those uncultured retards go around pretending to be a modern Shakespeare, and how they have a whole cult of middle-class and upper-class people (not only children) actually willing to believe it. Your country sure is fucked.

[Anonymous No.14164569]

>>14164549
>The only people that like to pretend that are faggots in college campuses
Actually that falls more to high school aged teenagers.

[Anonymous No.14164596]

>>14164569
I'm talking about my country tho. I've never seen a normal human being pretending that rap (or my country equivalent to that "music") it's literature. It's a retarded statement that can only be made by absolutely deluding yourself, like more college students do everywhere.

[Anonymous No.14165792]

>>14164547
Maybe some of us are black.

[Anonymous No.14165850]

>>14164402
Don't worry anon, people on here are just like that. You seem like a kind soul and I hope your literary endeavors are going well my friend.

[Anonymous No.14165858]

>>14163498
Un-based retard. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.14165862]

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[Anonymous No.14165925]

>>14164402
because you’re a faggot
fucking loser

[Anonymous No.14165947]

>>14164334
This is a stale Evola take. The degradation of art in the West can be traced more directly to opera than it can be to jazz.

[Anonymous No.14165954]

>>14164366
Read Das Judenthum in der Musik

[Anonymous No.14166771]

>>14163491
Only kanye west.

[Anonymous No.14166854]

>>14163514
Respiration is a good Mos Def song.

[Anonymous No.14167059]

>>14163491
nigs can't read

[Anonymous No.14167079]

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