/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14154070]

What are some INTP books?

[Anonymous No.14154094]

Mitchell Heisman's suicide note

[Anonymous No.14154118]

>>14154070
>>14154094
Stfu nerds, this is an Entp board.

[Anonymous No.14154126]

intps are autistic beta males, they would never write a book

[Anonymous No.14154208]

Man Without Qualities? Ulysses?

[Anonymous No.14154250]

Eduardo Leve's suicide note

[Anonymous No.14154253]

>>14154208
Two books you’ve never read?

[Anonymous No.14154263]

>>14154070
Bourbaki

[Anonymous No.14154267]

>>14154253
I've read Ulysses and I'm reading Man Without Qualities now. I just said that because they're long an inaccessible to normies. IDK what constitutes an MBTI book in general. Would Philosophical Investigations suffice?

[Anonymous No.14154317]

>>14154070
Anything by sociopathic beta males. Try the manifestos of school shooters.

[Anonymous No.14154446]

>>14154317
Fuck off normie fag.

[Anonymous No.14154455]

>>14154317
School shooters dont write manifestos dipshit

[Anonymous No.14154640]

>>14154070
>INTP
This choice will prove an entertaining casual evening book

[Anonymous No.14154761]

>>14154070
No longer human.
Dune.
Infinite Jester, Lolita, Don Quixote, The Great Gatsby, Hamlet, Atlas Shrugged, The Sun Also RIses, Fight Club, Lovecraft,

[Anonymous No.14154768]

>>14154118
entp=reddit cringe

sorry but it's true

[Anonymous No.14154773]

>>14154118

we all know /lit/ is an INTJ board you doofus

[Anonymous No.14154774]

>>14154070
hume, unironically

[Anonymous No.14154786]

Ludvig Wittgenstein's notebooks

[Anonymous No.14154798]

>>14154761
I second Dune, currently reading it now and loving it

[Anonymous No.14154801]

Define INTP first.

[Anonymous No.14154803]

>>14154801
the inverse of a woman

[Anonymous No.14154809]

>>14154803
Have you ever met a woman INTP or another INTP? I'm an INTP and have no idea what another INTP would be like.

[Anonymous No.14154830]

>>14154768
>jealousy I hear
Keep talking with your sny snarky insecure little jokes plebbit fag. Entps are King, we are the smartest, most creative, intelligent, confident and charismatic of types. Everything you say after this point is a cope, got trip over your shoelace and give me your lunch money.

>>14154773
>>14154773
imagine thinking if anything it wouldn't be an Infp board.

>>14154774
He was entp stupid.

[Anonymous No.14154835]

>>14154640
As an INTP, I agreed.

[Anonymous No.14154838]

>>14154803
>Ento the most masculine type since he's the exact dualistic opposite of the most feminine type
Ughh can we get a based?

[Anonymous No.14154841]

>>14154640
>>14154835
Jung seemed to very much like Kant, he was after all a Kantian.

[Anonymous No.14154917]

>>14154809
If you hang around men you'll find some.
Keep in mind it's basically an horoscope.

[Anonymous No.14154953]

>>14154640
I'm INTP. Rationalists are cool; epistemology, metaphysics, logic, these are interesting subjects. Ethics? No. It's literally not even philosophy, it's theology. Categorical imperative is rubbish. No one's following it, no one needs to.

[Anonymous No.14155013]

>>14154809
>>14154917
There are some loose truths to it, given that there's loose consistency in results, but it really can't make truly defining statements on your personality. And it's a fatal mistake to base your life's enjoyment around it. Personality and interpersonal skills are too complex.

I think INTPs tend to be dour and melancholic. It's not the kind of person that gets along well in the modern world, especially in our industrialized public school system and workplaces. For example, 4chan is filled with maladjusted men, with an anomaly of INTPs or INTJs. And I believe it's largely due to the abolishing of community in exchange for ultra individualism and corporatism. The rise of dating over courtship and arranged marriage puts the impetus of building a family on a set of superficial skills unrelated to building a family. That's not to say these types can't play the game, but that they hate it, and it doesn't give them what they want.
Think about how society tended to run, and the environment modern man evolved in, culturally. You were evolved (and created) to associate primarily people you have some strong communal ties with, be it your family or your neighbors, even in a cosmopolitan setting, often living together for generations. But in the modern day, we herd millions of children outside of that nurturing environment to be with strangers for a majority of their waking hours, and they have to fend off on their own for social capital. That's simply unnatural, and the psyche is not built for this, and it's a natural advantage we have over most primates.
"School is a prison" is truer the more you think on it. Consider the "alpha wolf" concept. Purportedly, the flaw in the study is that it was only applied to wolves in captivity, that is, a herd of strangers with no trust, put into essentially a prison environment. So a fairly ruthless hierarchy forms. But in nature, wolves tend to be in a family structure, instead. How is it so different, the way we treat children? Treating them like animals and prisoners, feeding them unhealthy garbage and forcibly interning them to receive an inferior education? And the same applies to industry.

[Anonymous No.14155039]

>>14154953
You are so smart and shit.

[Anonymous No.14155060]

>>14155039
Ah. Thank you. I disagree, though, because I prefer to humble myself.

[Anonymous No.14155063]

>>14154830
>hume was extrovert
nigga wut m8

[Anonymous No.14155065]

>>14154070
Cringe

[Anonymous No.14155098]

>>14155060
You are so ethical creature and shit.

[Anonymous No.14155127]

>>14155098
I'm not thinking about how I conduct myself. I wouldn't even say "do what thou wilt." I would even say "do not what thou wilt." Don't do what you think is right or wrong. I humble myself not because I think it's right. Why? It was predetermined, no thinking, just intuitively performed.

[Anonymous No.14155131]

>>14155063
>thinks introversion and extroversion are defined by social dominance rather than just simply coinciding with it
Sherlock Holmes or Da Vinci are good examples of a more introverted Entp, though Da Vinci was still quite dominant and talkative.

[Anonymous No.14155174]

>>14155127
You are such an animal only instinct and shit. No reason or soul in this one.

[Anonymous No.14155230]

>>14154803
>Not understanding INTx are the most introverted types and seek refuge of the outside world in 4chan so it's obvious that they're the most represented types there

[Anonymous No.14155238]

>>14155127
>he doesn't realise he simply falls into an ethical set of philosophically predetermined ideas by the blood of Christ essentially boiled to the raw form of his own inferior mentality and intelligence to the degree he mistakes habit, sensory patterns, for intuition.

[Anonymous No.14155266]

>>14155127

predestination is so profound it is hard to put into words. freewillies will never understand.

[Anonymous No.14155281]

>>14155266
I understand it to the point where I see free will in it.

[Anonymous No.14155355]

>>14155281

you either have free will or you don't. "limited free will" is not actually free will.

[Anonymous No.14155480]

>>14155355
If you would be completely free, you will definitely be dead. Limits are what makes us free when we learn to live in them. Gravitation limits you and gives you freedom to not fly away.

[Anonymous No.14155913]

>>14154118
/lit/ is objectively a INTP board but besides tht point ENTP's are based and redpilled.
t.former INTP who grew out of deppression and is now a happy ENTP

[Anonymous No.14155946]

Can INTPs feel anything?

[Anonymous No.14155960]

>>14155946
I have a theory that they really want to be feelless and try to ackt like they are but in reality are human like everyone. Not all of them are sociopaths.

[Anonymous No.14155973]

>>14155960
INTP are far from being sociopaths. they will avoid or disengage from any social situation which isn't interesting, rather than playing the game for appearance's sake. and while they may understand how to manipulate people they won't typically bother to do so

[Anonymous No.14155977]

>>14155946
They can.

[Anonymous No.14155987]

>>14155973
When I typed "sociopath" just mean that they feels nothing. It was a joke. I know my humor is autistic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14156024]

What are some INFJ books besides TBK? Asking for myself

[Anonymous No.14156080]

>>14155013
Interesting post. To add to this, I'd argue MBTI is most useful when used to identify the differences in people. For example, one can spot the difference between an extrovert or an introvert right away. And Sensing vs Thinking tells you the differences in how people gather information, and so on. But even when you take all the letters together you don't have a complete understanding of someone's personality, only some categories they fall into.

[Anonymous No.14156191]

>>14155013
Agreed anon. So what is the solution? Go innawoods with gf, dogbro and a couple of chickens?

[Anonymous No.14156976]

>>14156191
sounds good to me but women need a lot more attention than husband can give

[Anonymous No.14156980]

>>14154803
>ISTJ more common in women
I call these statistics bullshit

[Anonymous No.14157272]

>>14155013
Very interesting...
And as you mention, the INTPs/INTJs are specifically prone to maladjustment in this atomized society. It really brings into question the nature of "maladjustment" (what it really means) and what this reveals about these two types...

[Anonymous No.14157407]

>>14154070
self help books and popular history because if you're that interested in what two women who once maybe read Jung have to say about your horoscope then you're probably not very smart

[Anonymous No.14157432]

>>14154070
>No longer Human
>L’étranger
>Ulysses

[Anonymous No.14157444]

>/lit/ actually discusses MBTI as if it was above horoscopes
this board really is filled with teenagers huh

[Anonymous No.14157446]

>>14154953
Ethics is the micro of the macro you dilettante.

Good INTP books should either fit your nature or expand it. You’ll naturally gravitate towards systematic philosophers; reading them alone is a mistake. The world is composed of all 8 cognitive functions, so you will not think clearly if you load your Ti and neglect your Fe. The consciousness of Ti is driven by our unconscious need for the interpersonal harmony of Fe. Hence why Ti creates logical systems- to harmonize the Fe values of society.

For Ti:
>Plato. Especially the 4 dialogues surrounding Socrates death, the Georgias, the Protagoras, the republic, Sophist, and the Parmenides. Preferably in that order, and if you want to understand it well, twice. If you do this, you will be able to explain the republic through the apology; the apology has hidden in its drama all of the human nature Plato bases his republic on.
>Aristotle’s ethics, politics, and metaphysics. Same order preferably.
>Kant’s critique. The prolegomena is a better place to start.

Everything in the order I stated is best.

For Fe:
>plays. Sophocles and Euripides can both be read in a week of consistent reading. From there, Shakespeare. I haven’t read his comedies, but the tragedies live up to the hype. Oxford sells a hamlet, 300 pages, 150 of which are footnotes on the language and metaphor on the bottom of each page. I had to read it 3 times to get Shakespeare, ymmv. Special mention goes to Coreolanus, which will resonate with foolishly prideful idealists like ourselves.
>Dostoyevsky. The idiot and crime and punishment resonated most with me.
>some women authors. Pride and Prejudice, wuthering heights. Get over the idea that women are trash, and that being inferior in rationality does not make them less than but complementary. Men have decayed in this society too, you only focus woman’s decadence because you desire them.

Or don’t follow it at all and follow this: read classics in philosophy(Ti) and literature(Fe) and you will develop a world view that a synthesis of sociopathic and sappy, which is to say true.

[Anonymous No.14157448]

House of Leaves? Been a while since I read it but there's a lot of out there conceptual thinking that INTPs like

[Anonymous No.14157470]

>>14155913
>/lit/ is objectively a INTP board but besides tht point ENTP's are based and redpilled.
We are the most based and redpilled of all types. But I would have to say that I think there is also a heavy presence of feelers on this board and even though it may be predominantly Intp(as with the rest of the site) it's general character is dictated more to an Intp, Infj, Intp mix. /tv/ is very Estp but with a tich of Entp. Dwanna continue to type the boards?

[Anonymous No.14157476]

>>14156976
>women need a lot more attention than husband can give
Stupid.

[Anonymous No.14157480]

>>14156191
Honestly sounds like a good way to live the rest of your life, I'd miss debating issues with people in person though

[Anonymous No.14157757]

>>14154070
>literally just astrology for males

[Anonymous No.14158015]

>>14157757
Did you hear that one on Reddit? It's not like astrology. The position of the stars at the time of your birth has no correlation to your personality. Your answers to a questionnaire about your personality do have a correlation to your personality.

[Anonymous No.14158069]

>>14158015
>Did you hear that one on Reddit?
Searching "just astrology for males" on google with quotes returns only results from 4chan archives.

I agree that it's less retarded than Astrology, but People answering questions on a quiz aren't going to act the exact same way as how they answered. You are getting how they view or want to view themselves, not how they actually are.

[Anonymous No.14158202]

>>14154070

[Anonymous No.14159365]

>>14154070
Sci fi probably

[Anonymous No.14159619]

fucking horoscope horseshit

[Anonymous No.14159704]

>>14157470
>Dwanna continue to type the boards?
Do please

[Anonymous No.14159753]

>>14159619
No one here is using a description of their personality to predict the future. Who programmed all you NPCs with the "MBTI = astrology" line?

[Anonymous No.14160685]

>>14154070
'Dysgenics: Genetic Deterioration in Modern Populations' by Richard Lynn.

[Anonymous No.14161669]

>>14155013
Is it really ultra individualism? seems like it's more of a fake individualism

[Anonymous No.14161734]

Can someone explain how mbti is horoscope? Are you implying the whole thing is based in nothing?