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>Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached-out black and white, is the excitement of witnessing events too momentous for the medium assigned to record them.

>> No.14152386

Related?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gO4jaTmAz0

>> No.14152414

>>14152373
I guess in the future they'll make movies with blatantly obvious racial and sexual pandering except it will be ironic.

>> No.14152419

>>14152373
In the future, people will write faux shitty self help books and clickbait articles.

>> No.14152857

>>14152373
>CD distortion
wat

>> No.14152870

>>14152857
Yeah, I'm not getting this or >digital jitteriness

>> No.14152874

>>14152857
There’s a whole genre called “glitch” now imitating cd distortion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZlNt05dCX8
Here’s a more accessible example

>> No.14152947

>>14152373
Source anon? Your own thoughts, or is it from someone? I have some thoughts about why this relates to the aesthetic category of the sublime, so if it's an official source I'd like to synthesize with it. Anons here won't see that you or your source actually have an important insight if they don't know what philosophers have said about the sublime, that it exists wherever it seems that something can't be fully contained in our experience of it and reaches beyond ourselves and itself.
>It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached-out black and white, is the excitement of witnessing events too momentous for the medium assigned to record them.
Like this straight up connects with the fact that when faced with the sublime in nature or art (including religious literature, fiction, etc), we encounter something too great to be grasped in its fullness by the medium of representation or by the thinker. Therein lies its aesthetic value though.

>> No.14152970

>>14152373
Its the feeling for nostalgia that drives the replication

People associate these imperfections with childhood feelings etc and so they try to replicate it

>> No.14153240

>>14152947
>Source anon?

Brian Eno, A Year With Swollen Appendices

>> No.14153258

>>14152373
This is really nice, I had no idea Eno was such an interesting thinker. It makes me wonder whether the same can be true of non-media ugliness being missed; attempts to replicate the failings of economic systems or cultural phenomena now since passed which, whilst genuine examples of failure, still give people a warm feeling inside. Will people come to miss neo-liberalism as it now comes to fade, will people desire a repeat of the Arab Spring, or even a Third World War?

>> No.14153418

Would lo-fi hip hop fit into this sort of thing?

>> No.14153433

>>14153418
I'm not sure. Are there people who don't like it other than jazz snobs? Its just jazz chords and crumpled paper sounds.

>> No.14153459
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>>14153433
I'm not a jazz snob exactly, just into fusion mostly, but I hate lo-fi hip hop. I like lo-fi music in general but not lo-fi hip hop. Actually, I guess I just hate hip-hop. It shouldn't exist. People who disagree with my opinions are objectively wrong and should be gathered, chopped up in a factory, and sold as dog food.

>> No.14153474

>>14153459
Okay, so then yes? If you don't learn to appreciate something, then it's probably going to take hold.

>> No.14153478

>>14153240
Thanks anon. Gives me more reasons to like him in addition to Roxy Music and David Bowie.

>> No.14153912

>>14152414
It would be fascinating to see what a movie set in 2019 will look like in 2069

>> No.14154670

>>14152386
my right ear really enjoyed this video.

>> No.14154687

>>14152373
Nope. Never liked CDs skipping, never liked pixels, never liked the film getting wrinkled on tapes, black and white picture was terrible for for preserving history, blues is just indy music for voodoo niggers, modern art is garbage.

>> No.14154690

>>14152373

is this a quote from somewhere ?

>> No.14154708
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14154708

>>14152419

Listacles as an artform

>> No.14154729

>>14152373
i love how bourgeois always try to pass their smut for art

>> No.14154734

>>14153912
Yeah, I hope I'll live until then

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14154781

>why are you surprised, anon?

>> No.14155191

>OP quote talks about mediums (CD, 8-bit, film, amplifiers, etc)
>replies are about muh political correctness and self-help books and hip hop
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