/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14141297]

What are some INFP books?

[Anonymous No.14141307]

The Bible

[Anonymous No.14141309]

>>14141307
was Jesus INFP?

[Anonymous No.14141314]

Walden, Moby-Dick

[Anonymous No.14141318]

>>14141297
The Quran

[Anonymous No.14141329]

>>14141297
myers briggs is basically astrology
might as well ask for cancer books

[Anonymous No.14141377]

>>14141329
there's a particular myers-brigg type which always says this exact thing. what type are you, anon?

[Anonymous No.14141499]

>>14141329
myers-briggs corresponds exactly with astrology, thus proving them both to be true

[Anonymous No.14141523]

The Book of Disquiet
Confessions of a Mask
Kokoro
The Master of Go
Moby Dick
The Moon and the Bonfire
This Business of Living
Mason & Dixon
Molloy-Malone Dies-The Unnameable
Extinction
Woodcutters
Zone
Austerlitz
Bleak House
The Unconsoled
A Rebours
The Manuscript Found in Saragossa
Oblomov
Middlemarch
The Waves
Arcades Project
In Search of Lost Time
Maldoror
The Portrait of a Lady
The Golden Bowl
The Sound and the Fury
Journey to the End of the Night
Jesus' Son
Nine Stories
A Man Asleep
Disgrace
The Flanders Road
The Man Without Qualities
The Death of Virgil
Independent People
Invisible Cities
Paradiso (Lima)
Under the Volcano
The Lime Twig
Ada, or Ardor
The Poetics of Space
Adventures of Ideas
The Anatomy of Melancholy
Urne Burial
Essays Montaigne
The Tunnel
The Royal Family
Stories Chekhov
Stories Walser

[Anonymous No.14141546]

any camus book probably

[Anonymous No.14141562]

The Book of Disquiet
Confessions of a Mask
Kokoro
The Master of Go
Moby Dick
The Moon and the Bonfire
This Business of Living
Mason & Dixon
Molloy-Malone Dies-The Unnameable
Extinction
Woodcutters
Zone
Austerlitz
Bleak House
The Unconsoled
A Rebours
The Manuscript Found in Saragossa
Oblomov
Middlemarch
The Waves
Arcades Project
In Search of Lost Time
Maldoror
The Portrait of a Lady
The Golden Bowl
The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge
The Sound and the Fury
Journey to the End of the Night
Jesus' Son
Nine Stories
A Man Asleep
Hopscotch
Disgrace
The Flanders Road
The Man Without Qualities
The Death of Virgil
Independent People
Invisible Cities
Paradiso (Lima)
Under the Volcano
The Lime Twig
Ada, or Ardor
The Poetics of Space
Water and Dreams
Adventures of Ideas
The Anatomy of Melancholy
Urne Burial
Essays Montaigne
The Tunnel
The Royal Family
Stories Chekhov
Stories Walser

[Anonymous No.14141624]

>>14141297
Night On The Galactic Railroad- Kenji Miyazawa
Sickness Unto Death- Soren Kierkegaard
The Lord of The Rings trilogy- JRR Tolkien
Shakespeare's plays + sonnets

>>14141309
No, he was INFJ. An INFP is too disorganised to be a leader and start a religion.

>>14141562
>The Book of Disquiet
This one is INTP.

[Anonymous No.14141627]

What about No Longer Human?

[Anonymous No.14141639]

>>14141624
No way. BoD is the epitome of schizoid infp

[Anonymous No.14141645]

>>14141624
I remember when I was like you

[Anonymous No.14141650]

>>14141297
Any story centered on processing another person's logic, with Me vs The World mentality

The Perks of Being a Wallflower is INFP 101

[Anonymous No.14141806]

What about INFJ books?

Hard mode:
No Dostovetsky.

[Anonymous No.14141811]

>>14141297
This be Entp territory around here.

[Anonymous No.14141912]

Basically anything by Sarah Waters. Also, Notre Dame de Paris and Les Miserables.

[Anonymous No.14141990]

>>14141806
INFJ's dont read a lot. Some do, but they're at the most introverted of the spectrum. Demon Se has a damn aneurism trying to read a whole paragraph.

[Anonymous No.14142053]

The obvious: Anne of Green Gables.

The Catcher in the Rye has to be in there, too.

[Anonymous No.14142060]

>>14141562
love u

[Anonymous No.14142125]

>>14141990
its demon Si, Se is inferior

[Anonymous No.14142134]

>>14142060

[Anonymous No.14142143]

>tfw ISFJ
Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.14142147]

>>14142125
I don't know the system you're referencing, but it's not MBTI. You're right, though - different variants call the fourth function different names.

[Anonymous No.14142165]

>>14142143
hello normie

[Anonymous No.14142170]

>>14142165
INTJ isn't actually that common, it's just how autists like to see themselves

[Anonymous No.14142174]

>>14142165
I'm actually a shut-in NEET.

[Anonymous No.14142217]

>>14142174
you are probably a schizoid infp like me then

[Anonymous No.14142218]

>>14142165
>>14142170
>>14142174
Internet quiz self-reports aren't indicative of reality

[Anonymous No.14142267]

>>14142218
(((reality))) consists of normalfags and people who can tolerate normalfags. what brings you to this malaysian chimpanzee forum?

[Anonymous No.14142277]

>>14141990
i was reading a decent bit for a while, but yeah it gets really tough if i lose the habit

[Anonymous No.14142306]

>>14141297
Anything by Tolstoy, Nikos Kazantzakis, Shakespeare or Oscar Wilde.

[Anonymous No.14142316]

>>14142267
I can tolerate normies as well as internet people

>>14142277
Any intuitive generally has trouble with sensory info. Trouble reading, dont know what to do with our hands when dancing, etc.

[Anonymous No.14142400]

Paradise Lost
Slaughterhouse-Five
John of the Cross
I Hope You Die Soon

[Anonymous No.14142419]

>>14141627
INFJ here, No Longer Human spoke so much to me that it was hilarious(ly sad). There were times when the main character’s thought processes and behaviour mirrored my own autism so much that I’d start cackling out loud(think Joaquin’s Joker laugh).

[Anonymous No.14142623]

>>14141499
Based and starpilled

[Anonymous No.14142676]

>>14141297
Gormenghast

[Anonymous No.14142695]

>>14141811
What say you of ENTP books? Any recs?

[Anonymous No.14142717]

Can we make a chart already?

[Anonymous No.14142734]

>>14141624
>No, he was INFJ. An INFP is too disorganised to be a leader and start a religion.
Jesus was disorganized that's why he had 12 guys to help him out with these matters.

[Anonymous No.14142997]

I've heard multiple people say The Tartar Steppe is INFP

[Anonymous No.14143004]

>>14141309
The BVM is widely considered to be, though

[Anonymous No.14143486]

>>14141990
>>14142277
So I'm not the only one then? I'm INFJ and I rarely have the attention span to finish entire books, so I mostly read poetry and short stories. Even TV shows and movies prove a pain to get through unless it's an absolute 11/10 masterpiece. Incidentally, I'm addicted to music and have no problem spending hours doing nothing but listening to music.

I want to be able to read more, but I struggle to train my brain to do it.

[Charlessage No.14143511]

Mbti bait

[Anonymous No.14143539]

>>14141499
based brainlet

[Anonymous No.14143819]

>>14142217
why there is so many shizoid infp?
what type is picrel?

[Anonymous No.14143840]

>>14142419
ok... that's cringe

[Anonymous No.14144009]

imagine thinking there are only 16 people in the world

[Anonymous No.14144018]

>>14142695

[Anonymous No.14144032]

>>14144009

[Anonymous No.14144040]

>>14141309
nope, INFJ

[Anonymous No.14144049]

>>14142676
>am INFP
>autistic love of castles, dreariness, "gothic" themes (cant describe it)
damn anon spot on, will check out

[Anonymous No.14144056]

>>14144040
good one
t.INFP

[Anonymous No.14144061]

Stirner..

[Anonymous No.14144078]

>>14141297

[Anonymous No.14145435]

>>14141806
Goethe, spinoza, early marx

[Anonymous No.14145438]

>>14143486
Are you a porn addict

I’m an INFJ, and I’ve read 23 decent sized books this year. I think you’re just not reading books you’re interested in, or your dopamine receptors are fried. Do NoFap and start exercising, did wonders for my attention span.

[Anonymous No.14145496]

>>14145438
>dopamine receptors fried

This is pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.14145563]

>>14145438
>Are you a porn addict?
I think so, but I remember doing NoFap for a week it just made me feel like shit, and when I did masturbate again it felt unsatisfiying until I got into a regular masturbation routine again.

My problem with books is that I read about 100 pages and think to myself "I know where this is going now. Maybe I should check out the other books on my backlog just so I can see something different".

I've also noticed I'm more likely to drop something if it doesn't have flowery prose or some other aspect like compelling characters or plot I can latch onto. This probably explains why I've had several false starts with War and Peace without ever getting past Austerlitz, but I managed to read Moby Dick cover to cover fairly easily.

[Anonymous No.14145606]

>>14145496

[Anonymous No.14146105]

>people believe in myer briggs pseudoscience to stroke their fragile egos
Is there really any reasons if you're 6'6" tall?

[Anonymous No.14146199]

>>14145496
t. coomer

[Anonymous No.14146869]

>>14143486
You're probably not an INFJ if you dont obsess over the same conceptual thing every single day to the point that shit in your house starts breaking from neglect

[Anonymous No.14146900]

>>14146869
ouch, this hit too close to home.

[Anonymous No.14146903]

Quick breakdown. In order to be a particular type, you have to get charged up and excited by doing particular things:

Si/Ni (IxxJ) - organizing information already possessed
Fi/Ti (IxxP) - building life based on personal self worth
Se/Ne (ExxP) - gathering new information not yet experienced
Fe/Te (ExxJ) - building life based on validation from others

Everybody does every function and no one type is more interesting or special than the next. If you REALLY want some INFP books, you have to recognize that their biggest challenge in life is balancing extreme Fi with tiny little Te. This looks like "my emotion-based value self-journey" vs "their evil logical robotic poopy society is too mean to understand."

[Anonymous No.14146920]

INTJ books, please

[Anonymous No.14146925]

>>14146869
I’m pretty confident that I’m an INFJ rather than an INFP, because I live a very orderly and structured life and get upset when this structure is changed without prior notice. The only time I’m disorganised is when it comes to creative projects and consuming media Then I procrastinated to the point nothing gets done. Apart from that, I meticulously plan and schedule things.

As an INFJ though, I will say that I envy INFPs and their ability to be more spontaneous.

[Anonymous No.14146939]

>>14141990
Is this real? Any INFJ can confirm?
I tought that as lots of philosophers are INTJ (so the share the Ni-Se axis), then INFJ will also be avid readers.

[Anonymous No.14146952]

>>14141329
astrology is cool

[Anonymous No.14146958]

>>14141499
>myers-briggs corresponds exactly with astrology
not necesarely, astrology has more personality elements in consideration

[Anonymous No.14146961]

>>14142419
ok... that's based

[Anonymous No.14146991]

>>14146920
48 Laws of Power and Econ textbooks. Bc INTJs have neither the conceptual intelligence of INTPs or the emotional intelligence of INFPs.

[Anonymous No.14147025]

>>14146920
Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Goethe.
>>14146991
Shut your mouth pleb.

[Anonymous No.14147033]

>>14147025
>Grouping a midwit adolescent like Nietzsche with two of the greatest German intellects

[Anonymous No.14147061]

>>14147033
Have you read his other less known books? I like The Gay Science very much. But I agree, his attitude towards Wagner and stubbornness of not accepting Schopenhauer was not very mature of him.

[Anonymous No.14147083]

>>14147061
I was talking out my ass but I do want read more of him at some point. What little I know about the other two are from random lectures/article and talking to friends.

[Anonymous No.14147143]

>>14146939
Not exactly - that extreme dislike of Se keeps them from taking in new information. Every type obviously has sub types and some INFJ's are more into Se than others (Eminem and Jerry Seinfeld are both fans of consuming info, whereas Cesar Milan abhors it).

>>14147033
He's also extremely not an INTJ, but can appeal to them from his Fi-Te.

[Anonymous No.14147231]

>>14147143
>He's also extremely not an INTJ
Doesn't Jung himself identify Nietzsche as INTJ?

[Anonymous No.14147271]

>>14147231
I doubt it. Nietzsche's style of aphorisms and wide breadth of interests, difficulty managing his own life, and literal collapse all paint him a pretty typical ENFP. Both those and INTJ's have Fi and Te, so if Jung said that, he was probably onto something. But ExxP's biggest struggle is organizing all thr info they keep chasing after, while INTJ's struggle leaving the house

[Anonymous No.14147289]

>>14141329
myers briggs is zodiac signs for people with Linkedin accounts

[Anonymous No.14147332]

>>14147271
He has passages that says a pure intellect like himself should wrap himself tightly in a bundle and avoid interacting with other people, even if it means he should use "cunning". I don't see an ENFP saying that.
Jung himself also remarked that Nietzsche had "very developed intuition and intellect." The intellect obviously refers to T functions.
>“I have heard of mothers wanting to be paid for their love only too often. Nietzsche had not because he was a man with very developed intuition and intellect, but his feeling developed slowly.” (Jung: Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, vol. I p. 1043)

[Anonymous No.14147344]

>>14147271
>>14147332
>but his feeling developed slowly
Also INTJs' Fi is their tertiary function, so this part again implies INTJ.

[Anonymous No.14147359]

>>14147289
Nah, Strengthsfinder is more akin to the Linkedin types. Strengthsfinder is blatantly "here's how to use made-up buzzwords to describe what you did during your 5+ bullshit unpaid internships." Its alchemy designed to turn your basic human instincts towards work into profound markers of character. My friend goes to a small college that makes every student do Strengthsfinder and encourages them to put it on their resume.

[Anonymous No.14147364]

>>14147332
Everybody has a T function. INTJ and ENFP both have Te, which looks at the spectrum of reason. Like I said, it makes sense that he would appeal to both types. However, the main difference between the two are:
ExxP - more is easy, trouble saying no
IxxJ - same is easy, trouble doing new
The IxxJ's art is one long focused piece of organized and singular depth, while the ExxP jumps from topic to topic and can't slow down. And this is their pattern over the whole course of their life.

He's obviously Intuitive as he plays around with abstract concepts at the literal cost of breaking his sensory brain and body. Ne loves the freedom to explore more and more ideas, Ni loves the organization of owning their particular thing. Which of those does he actually sound like?

[Anonymous No.14147407]

>>14142695
Sorry took a while anon. And as a few recs I would say the Platonic/Socratic dialogues, Sherlock Holmes series (just as a nice little thing on the side), Beowulf, Kierkegaard(found it very refreshing). As just a few.

[Anonymous No.14147441]

>>14146903
>Si/Ni (IxxJ) - organizing information already possessed
Not necessarily correct, the Ni also collects information just to a lesser introverted degree.

>Fi/Ti (IxxP) - building life based on personal self worth
Ti is ideas, it doesn't have to relate to your individual. Actually it's more just in total abstract so doesn't relate to your individual unless the ideas do. And Fi is more principles not necessarily self worth.

>Se/Ne (ExxP) - gathering new information not yet experienced
Yes but the information gathers can also be about the information gathered itself hence in the case of intuition an "inference". So it's more than just abstract information departed from the individual.

Fe/Te (ExxJ) - building life based on validation from others
I wouldn't call Fe purely building life based on validation of others but that is there. Te however you couldn't be more wrong on, it's thought, the abstract, but in the extroverted landscape equating in essentially the means to something. Why Entj's are so good at tactics.

But really mbti is just a bunch of bullshit, there's a lot of effectual truth that comes from type identification but really the original Jungian typology is better as it didn't pretend as if it new how these effectual dominant and subordinate functions worked but even that suffers from some similar problems.

[Anonymous No.14147444]

>>14146903
>you have to recognize that their biggest challenge in life is balancing extreme Fi with tiny little Te. This looks like "my emotion-based value self-journey" vs "their evil logical robotic poopy society is too mean to understand."
Then whats my -- an Entp -- biggest practical problem in life?

[Anonymous No.14147460]

>>14147364
>Everybody has a T function.
Jung says a "very well-developed intellect" Do ENFPs have particularly developed thinking functions?
>ExxP - more is easy, trouble saying no
This also reminds me, Nietzsche is described as having a particularly disagreeable temperament, which again points to a underdeveloped F.
>The IxxJ's art is one long focused piece of organized and singular depth, while the ExxP jumps from topic to topic and can't slow down.
Philosophy as a whole is the broadest topic imaginable, where every part and every field is related to each other. A physicist restricts himself to the world of phenomena, a musician only to music, but for the philosopher, literally every part of everything is the field of study, which again relates to every part of everything else. Schopenhauer and Jung also, who are usually described as INFJ or INTJ, had broad interests, which is requisite for their field of study. Plato also. Saying a philosopher had broad interests doesn't mean anything.
> Ne loves the freedom to explore more and more ideas, Ni loves the organization of owning their particular thing
Ni + Te loves domination and mastery over subjects. But what happens when the subject, as N. says, is like a woman who doesn't allow herself to be mastered?
As a finishing point, consider this passage:
>A great man-a man whom nature has constructed and invented in the grand style-what is he?
>First: there is a long logic in all of his activity, hard to survey because of its length, and consequently misleading; he has the ability to extend his will across great stretches of his life and to despise and reject everything petty about him, including even the fairest, "divinest" things in the world.
>Secondly: he is colder, harder, less hesitating, and without fear of "opinion"; he lacks the virtues that accompany respect and "respectability," and altogether everything that is part of the "virtue of the herd." If he cannot lead, he goes alone; then it can happen that he may snarl at some things he meets on his way.
>Third: he wants no "sympathetic" heart, but servants, tools; in his intercourse with men he is always intent on making something out of them. He knows he is incommunicable: he finds it tasteless to be familiar; and when one thinks he is, he usually is not. When not speaking to himself, he wears a mask. He rather lies than tells the truth: it requires more spirit and will." There is a solitude within him that is inaccessible to praise or blame, his own justice that is beyond appeal.
>Long logic in all of his activity
>colder, harder, less hesitating, without fear of 'opinion'
>wants 'no sympathetic heart'
>When not speaking to himself, he wears a mask.
>There is a solitude within him
Are we talking about the same man? It seems you're basing your diagnosis on a superficial reading of his biography. If you take a look at some of his more intimate and personal writings, his type becomes obvious.

[Anonymous No.14147499]

>>14144009

>Imagine thinking there are billions of people
>Imagine thinking you're not just playing hide and seek with your brothers

[Anonymous No.14147733]

>>14147441
Agreed, MBTI is no good, and none of my thoughts came from it.

>>14147444
Organizing your known information. Shitty Si means you can't find all your papers/can't accept very simple facts.

>>14147460
This is not a debate between Thinking and Feeling. I say ENFP, you say INTJ; the first function debate here is Ne vs Ni. Information on a spectrum vs information in a vacuum. "The Gay Science," written at a time when he was overflowing with the joy of being alive (a period unburdened by psychological stress, facilitative of natural personality expression), is a bunch of short passages on A VARIETY OF TOPICS. This is Ne. Ne is all over the place. Ne wants more more more amor fati wee shiny object oh boy oh boy. You're over complicating it.

Also, in both ENFP and INTJ are the middle functions Fi and Te. One means introverted identity, the other means extraverted identity. Pretty sure he preferred being his own character over doing for the tribe, yeah? Now, which one was the introverted one again, F or T?
Go back and look for every time he expresses emotion, anon. Dude was a Feeler, a very brilliant and very logical Feeler. Your definitions of the functions are a product of the MBTI community fucking everything up.

[Anonymous No.14147766]

>>14147733
Very well. Considering Ni vs. Ne, Jung had the following to say:
>The fact that it is just the psychological functions of intuition on the one hand, and of sensation and instinct on the other, that Nietzsche brings into relief, must be characteristic of his own personal psychology. He must surely be reckoned as an intuitive type with an inclination towards the side of introversion. As evidence of the former we have his pre-eminently intuitive, artistic manner of production, of which this very work The Birth of Tragedy is highly characteristic, while his master work Thus Spake Zarathustra is even more so. His aphoristic writings are expressive of his introverted intellectual side. These, in spite of a strong admixture of feeling, exhibit a pronounced critical intellectualism in the manner of the French intellectuals of the eighteenth century.
I'm not sure why you see his scattered writing style as a sign of Ne, but Jung thinks this same exact thing indicate Ni. My view of the functions might be fucked because of MBTI, but this is Jung, who had nothing to do with MBTI, and who has made the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.14147896]

INFPs are superior to INFJs

[Anonymous No.14147949]

>>14147766
I think in that section, Jung was merely saying Nietzsche was both intuitive and introverted, not necessarily Ni. That's exactly how I feel, too. His intuition is very clear, and I think the "introversion" is a matter of identity (what Jung called "rational" functions (T/F)). That's why I say he's keyed into his Fi.

When it comes to "irrational" functions, the introverted ones tend to be organized and have trouble taking in new on the spectrum (IxxJ); the extraverted ones tend to take in new on the spectrum and have trouble condensing/narrowing down (ExxP). The aphorisms, scattered and a little shallow, are characteristic of an individual more interested in having new ideas than identifying one thing and sticking with it. This echoes in their language (ExxP's love "freedom," "don't label me," "I like everything but country and rap," etc). Imagine walking down the street and having each piece of stimuli stir up an idea, and imagine doing that for so long, without stopping, that you eventually collapse.

One stark opposite is an INTJ who similarly broke, but for different reasons: Steve Jobs. Steve didn't care about affirming life in every aspect, he just wanted to make portable computers with as few buttons as possible. Obsessed with fine-tuning the information he already had, he neglected sensory and died.

[Anonymous No.14148075]

>>14147949
But weren't you saying he was ENFP? Now we're saying he was INFP? Regardless, he literally says:
>intuitive type with an inclination towards the side of introversion
and
>introverted intellectual side
I think these are clear enough not to be redefined and reinterpreted. But to dispel any doubts, consider this passage:
>In Nietzsche’s case … the unconscious came up with all its extraversion and … he locked the complex away from himself and dissolved in a tremendous extraversion within his isolation.
Now, according to the principle of Enantiodromia in Jung's typology:
>the emergence of the unconscious opposite in the course of time. This characteristic phenomenon practically always occurs when an extreme, one-sided tendency dominates conscious life; in time an equally powerful counterposition is built up which first inhibits the conscious performance and subsequently breaks through the conscious control.
Which basically means a person's unconscious type is the opposite of his conscious. Now, as he says N.'s unconscious is extraverted, therefore his main function must be introverted. But what is his main function?
Somewhere else Jung says:
>[Nietzsche’s] main function is surely intuition, which would be up above, connected with the brain, with consciousness, and that is in opposition to that which is in opposition to the things below, namely the other three functions.
Therefore Jung is clearly claiming Nietzsche's main function is Ni, as this >>14147766 quote was indicating. Accept it, anon. There's no escape. He was an INTJ and every aspect of him, be it his disagreeable character, not unlike that of Beethoven's, be it he's blatant egoism, be it he's clear revulsion towards society and socializing, as he always preferred to be left alone, all of this are screaming INTJ. Jung himself spent a great deal of time to psychoanalyze his writings and believes he's INTJ. His writings, as you say, appeal to INTJs because he shares functions with them. It also makes sense that because of their Fi-Te ENFPs would appreciate him.

[Anonymous No.14148104]

>>14147949
>Steve didn't care about affirming life in every aspect
Assuming that he was actually INTJ, he didn't care because he obviously wasn't a philosopher. Everyone cares about their own subjects of interest. Isn't that evident?

[Anonymous No.14148129]

>>14148075
My bad, I never meant to imply he was an INFP. Just Ne/Fi, ENFP. Sorry man, I'll never buy it. It may be definition differences, or I may just disagree with Jung.

[Anonymous No.14148150]

>>14148104
>Everyone cares about their own subjects of interest
And the way they live those subjects of interest is indicated by their personality. Every type can and does do everything. He very much affirmed life, just in like 4 aspects.

[Anonymous No.14148167]

ISFP books?

[Anonymous No.14148176]

>>14148129
That's fine, but I'm curious, what could possibly convince you? At this point it seems to me even if the man himself resurrected from the grave, studied Jung, and came to tell us what he was, you still wouldn't believe him.

[Anonymous No.14148178]

>>14147896

INFP feels like a mess when INFJ is around, but INFJ loves INFP regardless.

[Anonymous No.14148186]

>>14148167

Picture books

[Anonymous No.14148206]

>>14148178
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHY DO I STILL THINK ABOUT HER EVERY FUCKING DAY

[Anonymous No.14148217]

>>14148178
is kennedi infp?

[Anonymous No.14148234]

>>14148176
Well, I'd want to talk with Jung about his definitions. One of the biggest problems with MBTI is that its professional "practioners" can't even agree on what terms mean. I'd want to make sure we both agreed on Ni and Ne. Then, I'd want to look at Nietzsche through his strengths and weaknesses. What does he do effortlessly and what takes effort? What activities and modes of thought energize him and what taxes him? If Jung himself could show me that Nietzsche felt most alive by sitting and working on organizing the same information over and over, and that he was drained by looking at new ideas and information, I'd have to agree

[Anonymous No.14148257]

>>14141639
this, infp through its limit

[Anonymous No.14148260]

>>14141645
what happened to you?

[Anonymous No.14148273]

>>14147733
>Organising your known information. Shitty Si means you can't find all your papers/can't accept very simple facts.
Every other type seems to have some serious problem which looks large and gargantuan but ours is always just described so badly, like I mean it just seems so easy to overcome. I readily accept easy facts, I also organise my known information fairly well with my Ne since it's giving me information on the information hence equating in some organisation. I guess I just want some grand novelty to dispel all other lesser novelty's and by that asserting the entirety of existence. Even the spiritual experiences I have had seem to lose value pretty quickly. I agree it's hard for me to keep track of all my thoughts and ideas sine there's ADD in the family and I am certain I also have it. But that doesn't dispel the definite 'organisation' of thought in the way of what is more core and central to my principles/my principles.

Maybe the general Entp greatest practical problem in life is finding something to sit on, just no more searching, or really the same feeling we got from searching/truth loving but that it's in such grand form it achieves the height of our pleasure -- the creative spirit(which I have known to always be my total end goal since teenage years, its possession is unlike any other experience; that sudden idea and all). And so maybe this total novelty is this ever searching I said, though more ever-finding, ever creating, and it only seems as if there exists that "one" when in times of not going through this ideal movement.

Seems the truest end goal which one can gather in all the general idea of the types is their main function, while the inferior fourth function is only the hampering, of which' use is necessary but not the end goal as many seem to think.

[Anonymous No.14148279]

>>14148234
>felt most alive by sitting and working on organizing the same information over and over, and that he was drained by looking at new ideas and information
I don't understand this part. I'm probably an Ni user and I like to study a topic, master it as far as it's reasonably and efficiently possible, and move on to other topics. I don't want to be stuck on it at the expense other information, but I also don't want to move on until I gain a certain degree of mastery over it. In my journal, I have fragmented paragraphs that I describe a thought in short, I also have multiple pages long elaboration of particular thoughts that needed more depth and length. So far most descriptions of Ni that I've read have resonated with me, but does these mean, according to your definition, I'm an Ne user?

[Anonymous No.14148293]

>>14148279
>Ni fag
Yea us Ne's just go to whatever topic we feel like diving into at the time, just saved by the Si holding us in that little amount to finish on a certain book/topic before jumping on to another.

Constant stimulation/learning > slow memorisation

[Anonymous No.14148315]

>>14148279
I can't know for sure without knowing a ton more about you, but here is the basic premise according to one contemporary Jungian system:

Our preferred functions are our first and then one of the two in the middle. Think of them as functions we go into in order to feel "normal." For Si/Ne, this means going back and fine-tuning that same old box of info. For Se/Ne, its moving onto the next thing (a cartoon anecdote example might be the Se basketball player, Ne debater, etc).

The other two functions are unpreferred and make us feel weird. They take effort because they're undeveloped. Think of them as little monsters poking you. If your monster is Si/Ni, you might feel trapped, controlled, pigeonholed doing something you "already finished." The language itself indicates a desire to move on. If your monster is Se/Ne, you might distrust something new or even ignore it altogether, denying its existence in order to avoid experiencing it.

[Anonymous No.14148318]

>>14148315
Whoops, that first set should be Si/Ni*

[Anonymous No.14148601]

>>14142695
ENTP books are pretty much any non fiction book

[Anonymous No.14148960]

>>14145563
How often do you PMO? In my case, I’ve been dysthymic for many years now, and started using P and MO as a crutch to distract myself from my problems, so much so that I got used to having to fap every couple of days, and that “high” contributed to worsening my mental state. But when I cut P, I noticed that I’d have more energy to do stuff, and though I’d be moody and depressive even on NF, after about 2 weeks of abstaining from arousing material(or even giving in to lewd thoughts), my brain would go into hyperdrive, and I’d be able to focus with so much more clarity, just thinking would actually be exhilarating for me. I’ve been able to read a lot more since I started NF, I’ve also had this “cutting through” energy, I just have more of a drive to accomplish things. Each time I face trouble in life though the urge to use P and distract myself is there, and while I still relapse, I’m in a much better state than before. Fapping once in a while is no big deal in my opinion, but I’ve decided to cut out P for good.

Anywho, try forcing yourself to sit and read, anon. You can’t expect every moment to be pleasure, you gotta slog a bit to get to that point. Our minds are so accustomed to instant satisfaction thanks to TV, junk food, the internet etc. You should learn about delayed gratification, and build up discipline.

>>14145496
Okay coomer

[Anonymous No.14148967]

>>14146939
He’s wrong. I’m an INFJ, and I read plenty(books, not just on the web).

[Anonymous No.14149041]

>>14141329
Astrology is real though

[Anonymous No.14149224]

>>14141329
this. I've met people obsessed with it and they always come off exactly like people obsessed with star signs. It's the same shit

[Anonymous No.14149498]

>>14141297

Fear and Trembling

[Anonymous No.14149639]

>>14148178
fuck i'm gonna write some outsider pop jams right now

[Anonymous No.14149677]

>>14148178

INFPxINFJ is the ideal mbti ship

[Anonymous No.14149697]

Where my ISTJ Chads at?
Also rec some ISTJ literature that isn't Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.14149740]

>>14149697
doesn't ISTJ mean you're a passive pushover? a weak willed and buggish normalfag?

[Anonymous No.14149748]

ISTPs can't read

[Anonymous No.14149782]

>>14149677
If you're an INFP, I really don't recommend getting caught up in a relationship with an INFJ, unless the INFJ is very mature and evolved (you'll know when they are). Although INFJs are complex, mysterious and profound, which might interest and attract INFPs at first, they're ultimately controlling, emotionally insensitive, self-obsessed and too structured in their way of observing the world and living. Eventually INFPs will get tired of INFJs "all-encompassing" ideas that are also incredibly reductive and oppressive to individuality. It will cause many misunderstandings.

INFPs need T in their lives.

[Anonymous No.14149801]

>>14149740
t. faggy commie INFP.

[Anonymous No.14149825]

>>14149697
ISTJs are so cute. I love normie introverts :3

[Anonymous No.14149839]

>>14149782
I think the best thing for INFPs and INFJs alike are Es. The strange dichotomy I have as an INFJ is that I admire am attracted to Extroverts (all my crushes have been ENxx), but I find Introverts more relatable. I notice that when I’m around Extroverts, I’m reserved and timid, but around Introverts I’m the loudest voice in the room.

Do any INFPs or INFJs have different experiences regarding this?

[Anonymous No.14149864]

>>14149748
what are some istp audio books

[Anonymous No.14150028]

>>14149697
The Remains of the Day

[Anonymous No.14150040]

>>14149697
Heidegger and this >>14150028.

[Anonymous No.14150055]

>>14146991

Stereotypes and, by the looks of it, letter dichotomies are not in and of themselves typology.

[Anonymous No.14150066]

>>14141297
Is the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator the modern form or astrology or nah?

[Anonymous No.14150079]

>>14150028
>>14150040
Based, read both already. Any more?

[Anonymous No.14150090]

>>14150079
I don’t think Proust was an istj but his work definitely has a lot of appeal to the introverted sensor.

[Anonymous No.14150096]

>>14150079
Oh and also: the life of samuel johnson to read about a very based example of istj.

[Anonymous No.14150113]

Regarding Nietzsche:

Definitely not Ni-dominant, definitely has thinking "last", as in the "fourth" slot, and it's practically dormant, seems to ignore Te and particularly abhor Ti. So I'd say ESI/ISFP or EII/INFP. Potential ILIs/INTJs: Plotinus, Eriugena, Hegel.

[Anonymous No.14150116]

>>14150096
>>14150090
>>14150028
>>14150040
Holy shit ISTJ has a lot of based literature. How do I become one? I'm tired of being an INFJ cuck.

[Anonymous No.14150335]

>>14149839
INFJ here, I feel the same. Other introverts are surprised at how talkative I am, and I’ve been called an extrovert by a few extreme introvert types, but when I’m in a group of actual extroverts, I barely speak beyond answering when spoken to you. It’s odd, I have difficult speaking up around them for some reason.

[Anonymous No.14150386]

>>14149782

As an INFP, I have an INFJ gf and she is very understanding. We have different viewpoints but keeps me in check. She finds my spontaneity enjoyable, but has issues with organization skills. My gf had to mentally develop faster at a young age due to traumatic family events.

I honestly recommend INFJs as good partners because of how intelligent they can be, even though they may seem to be self-absorbed.

[Anonymous No.14150406]

I'm not supposed to be intp anymore wtf

[Anonymous No.14150410]

>>14141329
I find that the people who dislike it either are rampant vacillators or didn't get the score they wanted.

[Anonymous No.14150415]

>>14148178
>>14148206
Can I get a rundown on this picture of this couple.

[Anonymous No.14150444]

>>14141562
based

[Anonymous No.14150445]

Books for INTPs, anons?

>tfw qt INFP gf knitting socks and painting mandalas all day erry day

[Anonymous No.14150536]

>>14150406
INTP two times in the row. I really thought I'm not one anymore.

[Anonymous No.14150709]

>>14141329
Meyers Briggs has a certain logic behind it.
The 4 dichotomies aren't completely nonsensical.
That said, no one is strictly any one type.
>Implying people can't sometimes be introverted and sometimes be extroverted
>Implying people can't sometimes think their way through situations, and sometimes feel their way through situation
>Implying some people never use intuition, and some never use their senses
>Implying the P/J dichotomy matters.

[Anonymous No.14150716]

>>14147033
>Goethe
>Not having every single one of this hypotheses thoroughly disproved.

[Anonymous No.14150725]

>>14148167

Pantera lyrics, Phil is THE ISFP.

I don't want you to look at me while
I'm shedding skin.
I can't afford for you to see what's in.
I'd rather shoot myself than have you watch me.
I feel you'd steal my skin to try and wear me.

I was betrayed, one more day of my short life.
You were carried away. You had no shame.
To suffocate my being.
I was me, but you weren't you.
You were sticking to me like a scab...
so I peeled you away, and bled for days.
Then stepped out of myself.

I'm shedding skin, changing within, I'm falling in.
Through swollen eyes, I dreamed you died, caught inside.
I'm shedding skin, spreading thin, severed stem.
I created the end, I'm killing a friend. I'm shedding my skin.

I don't think you belong in here,
I feel I'm sick.
Don't ask because you know damn well where I've been.
I've kept a simple woman through the thick and thin.
But I've found the guts to sever from my Siamese twin.

I throw you away. Everyday. A dead part of life.
Strangling back. Seething black.
In between my longing for torture.
Blood on my face that came from your face.
The mix of kissing and bleeding.
I put you away. I shut you away.
I pissed you away. I threw you away.

I'm shedding skin, changing within, I'm falling in.
Through swollen eyes, I dreamed you died, caught inside.
I'm shedding skin, spreading thin, severed stem.
I created the end, I'm killing a friend. I'm shedding my skin.

You're fucking, and sucking.
You're friendless. It's endless.
Your flower has soured.
It's endless. You're friendless.
It's harder. And stronger.
But no one's been inside you longer.
Or harder. Or deeper.
To get you off, you need the fear.

It's never love. Bloody touch.
Broken wrist. Needle rust.
Choking throat. Swallowed teeth.
Head fuck. No peace.
I'm shedding my skin to peel you off of me.
You've got to love me.

Ornament. Shrunken head.
Playtoy. Snake strike.
Poisonous. Syphilis.
Drenched me. Soaked me.
I'm shedding my skin to drain you out of me.
You've got to hate me.

[Anonymous No.14150776]

>>14150335
I think it’s because Extroverts are clued in on the common rituals of social interaction, whereas we find those rituals pointless and artificial. Introverts also often lack confidence, so we’re more confident in showing them our soul because we know they can’t judge us.

Still, I suspect that I’m drawn to Extroverts because my Feeling function makes me empathetic and having an Extroverted partner would give me a comfortable into social situations without me actually having to make much effort.

Also, thinking in the long term, I’d prefer any children I have to have a mother with a healthy social life, since I would be really bad at teaching them how to socialise. This is why I’m thinking that an ENFP or ENTP would be an ideal partner for me— It would cancel out my weaknesses as an INFJ. In fact, the only girl I’ve ever dated was an ENTP.

[Anonymous No.14150854]

>>14141329
So what are some good cancer book?

[Anonymous No.14150873]

>>14150854

Gospel of John, Thomas.

[Anonymous No.14150874]

>>14141297
Demian (Hesse)
Confession of a mask (Mishima)
The settlin sun (dazai)
Morphine (bulgakov)
10/10

[Anonymous No.14151468]

>>14141297
Factotum by Bukowski

[Anonymous No.14151490]

>>14150873
What about Saggitarius?

[Anonymous No.14151692]

I hope the INFPs in this thread are females...otherwise you're a faggot

[Anonymous No.14151706]

I've done that silly test twice and both times it told me I'm INFJ.

My favourite author is Thomas Mann.

[Anonymous No.14151792]

>>14150386

Does she sit on your face?

[Anonymous No.14151809]

>>14151692
I can remember 3 occasions when people called me a faggot/gay behind my back thinking I can't hear them. It really hurt my feelings.

[Anonymous No.14151844]

What was Jesus Christ archetype?

[Anonymous No.14151862]

>>14151844
INFJ

[Anonymous No.14151882]

>>14151809
What behaviour did you display that could be interpreted as faggy?

I know the stereotype that INFP males are effeminate men, but I don't know how true that stereotype is.

[Anonymous No.14151933]

>>14151882
I don't know. I'm very introverted very passive. Maybe It's my appearance.

[Anonymous No.14151980]

>>14151882
I'm very passive and also I'm very gay and like to suck cock and also get off on submitting to more powerful men.

[Anonymous No.14152176]

>>14151980
Soucking cock sound gay, but what is homoseksual about following the leader or what you mean?

[Anonymous No.14152183]

>>14152176
You are mentally sucking cock.

[Anonymous No.14152202]

>>14152183
So you think all men need to fight each other (for your pussy I suppose) instead of understand and develop their role in community?

[Anonymous No.14152249]

>>14149839
>I notice that when I’m around Extroverts, I’m reserved and timid, but around Introverts I’m the loudest voice in the room
i'm an INFP as far as i know, but this is really how it goes. i'm always the one guiding the conversation when in voice chat with fellow autists, but as soon as an E chad enters i become responsive instead of proactive

[Anonymous No.14152300]

>>14150445
wikipedia articles

[Anonymous No.14152324]

>>14152249
I, as INFP / INTP, have different times. Sometimes I'm the loudest, even stupid, sometimes I'm silent when I should say something wise. In hard discussions I usually lose but I am not afraid of it. When at party i meet person that appears interesting to me then I can take rolle of extravertic but mosty I dont like waste time for peopel and dthier bullshit and have a good time drinking and joking.

[Anonymous No.14152345]

>>14152324
>When at party
>have a good time drinking and joking
the eternal E, ladies and gentlemen

[Anonymous No.14152381]

>>14152345
I am Introvert basing to this test and like to do stuff with friends but only sometimes, but then I need break and time for myself too

[Anonymous No.14152418]

>>14150709
the dichotomies are only a very base part of it anyways once you understand how the functions work. Regardless it is not a perfect measure of a personality, it’s just the closest description

[Anonymous No.14152472]

i was okay with being an INFP but then i realized INFJs are strictly better. fuck, lads, books for this feel? i won't ever amount to anything with this shit archetype, might as well not even try.

[Anonymous No.14152570]

>>14152472
Being INFJ sucks unless you dedicate yourself to pursuing some world changing goal. Everyone also thinks you're naive and doesn't really understand what your trying to say. I actually had someone say to me something to the effect of "The world is going to break you" when they heard how idealistic I was.

Even one of the benefits of being an INFJ is a double-edged sword. Alot of people think that you're destined to do great things and think that you might be the next Napoleon, but then that just creates self-loathing because you never live up to the standards you set for yourself because of how all this praise turns you into a narcissist.

[Anonymous No.14152583]

>>14151792
Why would an INFJ sit on your face?

[Anonymous No.14152596]

>>14152472
You want to be a mystic when you are a dreamer?

[Anonymous No.14152632]

>>14152596
i wish my dreams could become reality. INFJs can do that, while i'm stuck with what could've been.

[Anonymous No.14152846]

>>14152570
> someone say to me something to the effect of "The world is going to break you"
I am sure it was an INFP.

[Anonymous No.14153015]

>>14152846
>it was an INFP
Why would they'?

[Anonymous No.14153187]

>>14152632
INFJs might accomplish more and they have some pretty good insights, but nothing beats INFPs' profound understanding of humanity on a purely emotional level. INFPs at their best are able to dig much deeper than INFJs could ever hope to, which is INFPs they make better filmmakers, writers, musicians, etc.

Also, INFPs, though socially inept, are ultimately more likable than INFJs, so they can take advantage of that. INFJs are more prone to paranoia and tend to suffer about as much as INFPs, but they usually inflict pain on others as well, while INFPs tend to suffer in silence, which is preferrable.

I can't imagine wanting to be an INFJ

[Anonymous No.14153215]

>>14153187
And what do INTJs do, aside from locking themselves in their rooms?

[Anonymous No.14153253]

>>14153215
The INTJ I know is a bodybuilder with /pol/ leanings.

[Anonymous No.14153261]

>>14153253
But that sounds more like an ISTJ.

[Anonymous No.14153269]

>>14153261
>but that sounds more like an ISTJ
>That's such a VIRGO thing to say

T. INTP

[Anonymous No.14153307]

>>14151844
Whatever quiz 1 of 83963 said your type was, probably fake INFJ like all the rest of us "rarest types"

[Anonymous No.14153313]

>>14153269
Honestly I'm getting sick of these comparisons of MBTI to astrology. There is a big difference. Astrology tries to explain your personality by studying the relations of stars, as if there is a connection. MBTI is based on Jung's research on psychometrics, where he found certain behaviors are related to each other and can be grouped together and abstracted as psychological functions. Even the model they use in academia today, the big five, still roughly follows Jung's. What MBTI does is that it groups Jungian functions together in 16 combinations in order to make them packages accessible to normies and HR departments. So no, MBTI is not perfect, but also it isn't studying the combination of stars. I wish people would at least read wikipedia articles before granting us their divine wisdom.

[Anonymous No.14153320]

Is INTP the most useless fucking autistic type?

[Anonymous No.14153336]

>thinking that the epiphanies of a smart human can even come close to the scattered cosmic truth

[Anonymous No.14153390]

>>14153336
What do either of those things have to do with the fact that authors have personalities that seep into their works and resonate in readers of a similar ilk and we want to find some with which we can have that kind of experience?

[Anonymous No.14153428]

>>14153390
threads get derailed anon, otherwise there wouldn't be any fun

[Anonymous No.14153858]

>>14153428
Tina Fey
Tiny Dancer
Dancer in the Dark
Noah's Ark
Arc de Triomphe
Triumph of Man
Racism
Immature
Literature

[Anonymous No.14153891]

>>14141562
INFP and a lot of these books are my favourites, based

[Anonymous No.14153956]

This is worse than astrology because misguided STEM morons want to believe it and somehow that makes it genuine. It is easy to disregard men and women who believe in astrology because they're blabbering but when STEM morons blabber they attempt to back it up with pseudo-science that sounds official when in reality it's not.

Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14153968]

I can't figure out if I'm INFP or INTP how do I fucking decide? It's driving me mad.

[Anonymous No.14154029]

>>14142676
im INFP and dropped this meandering garbage after 120 pages of nothing

[Anonymous No.14154068]

>>14153956
One word isn't a sentence. You can't write one word with a period. You'd know that if you weren't a STEM budanski.

[Anonymous No.14154106]

>>14154068
Let me amend it, then.

It's really pathetic that both astrology and Myers-Briggs Personality Indicator are taken seriously by anyone of any gender, age, education level, or education focus.

[Anonymous No.14154154]

>>14153968
You're INTP, an INFP knows they are INFP

[Anonymous No.14154189]

is there a particular board that discusses MBTI more than others? or am i already here?

[Anonymous No.14154249]

Any other INFP Pisces here? I feel like these are very compatible.

[Anonymous No.14154262]

>>14154249
INFP eagle here but i wanna go phoenix

[Anonymous No.14154287]

>>14154189
I haven't seen mbti discussed intelligently on any other board

[Anonymous No.14154301]

>>14154189
used to be r9k but those times are gone for good

[Anonymous No.14154419]

Any recommendations for a suicidal INFP?

[Anonymous No.14154434]

>>14154419
yes, don't commit suicide

[Anonymous No.14154445]

>>14154419
Poetry of Eliot

[Anonymous No.14154461]

>>14150776
>I think it’s because Extroverts are clued in on the common rituals of social interaction, whereas we find those rituals pointless and artificial. Introverts also often lack confidence, so we’re more confident in showing them our soul because we know they can’t judge us.
No that's just some extroverts, the weaker socially conforming ones, not the chad Entps/Estps like me.

Entp masterrace, we can literally do anything.

[Anonymous No.14154471]

>>14154461
>we can literally do anything
can you suck my dreamer dong?

[Anonymous No.14154485]

>>14154419
Act!
You know what you want, go for it.

[Anonymous No.14154513]

what MBTI is Book of the Nu Sun?

[Anonymous No.14154525]

>>14154461
>we can literally do anything.

can you do my math homework?

[Anonymous No.14154748]

>>14153320

[Anonymous No.14154752]

>>14153320
shut the fuck up, esfj

[Anonymous No.14154762]

>>14152300
you got me

[Anonymous No.14154789]

Nice astrology club, faggots.

[Anonymous No.14154815]

>>14154789

[Anonymous No.14154939]

>>14141990
I'm an INFJ and I've recently starting reading novels again. I tend to lose focus when an author starts going into deep detail about what might be going on in a scene, and will have to re-read important info that I (regularly) miss.

[Anonymous No.14155074]

>>14154249
IN(T/F)P Pisces here

[Anonymous No.14155209]

>>14150415
The dude is John Maus and I'm fairly sure it's just a fan pic.

[Anonymous No.14155275]

>>14154029
unironically kill yourself

[Anonymous No.14155831]

>>14153313
Mbti is fucking accurate. I’ve been reading about it for months and I have been able to type everyone in my life with accuracy. I know the online tests are bullshit, but if I have someone take the test I always know what the result will be. When you understand the functions it really helps dealing with people and their bullshit, and being more tolerant (or less tolerant) of certain behavior. Not to mention it’s great to spot when you’re in a bad loop.

It’s natural that some people will be against it on grounds that “humans are too complex to be reduced to this,” but what they don’t understand is that each of these functions is endlessly complex as well. It is anything but reductive and simplistic

[Anonymous No.14155980]

>>14154249
INFP cancer here. Is there anything more pathetic?

[Anonymous No.14155999]

>>14155980
No, there is nothing more pathetic than self-pitying INFP. Stop doing that and do something with your potential.

[Anonymous No.14156009]

>>14155999

[Anonymous No.14156155]

>>14154249
I was born on february 19. Never been sure whether that is aquarius or pisces

[Anonymous No.14156184]

>>14154249
INFP virgo here
what happens now?

[Anonymous No.14156404]

>>14154939
Sounds like Ne to me. You might not be an INFJ. Ne dislikes minutiae more than any function. Ni gets overwhelmed by it and wants to pick out the most important bits and then work on them; Ne wants to skip past the details so it can read the next paragraph and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.14156546]

>>14146920
wittgenstein

[Anonymous No.14156559]

>>14141329
MBTI types correlate with income, happiness etc. Big Five moreso. They're predictive, legit

[Anonymous No.14156692]

>>14156559
What are the happiness and success ratings for each of the types?

[Anonymous No.14156753]

Any "personality test" based on you answering questions about yourself will never reflect who you actually are, only the narcissistic image of yourself you have produced
The Myers-Briggs schema was literally made by a housewife and her daughter who read Jung and thought it'd be neat to put together a fucking Jungian Buzzfeed quiz to help other housewives decide what job to get when their husbands were all drafted

[Anonymous No.14156780]

>>14156692
I don't know about happiness but success is apparently correlated with low agreeableness and high conscientiousness. In MBTI that would translate to --TJ types.

[Anonymous No.14156795]

>>14156753
Correct, but too mean. We have biases for social desirability that are partially forced upon us as members of a tribe. It's not entirely our fault that we don't know who we are. Also, MBTI was decent for the 50's, and now needs an update. That's all

[Anonymous No.14156959]

Myers-Briggs personality test really has become the new Zodiac signs. Please die if you at all define yourself by this made-for-virality, glorified buzzfeed quiz.

[Anonymous No.14157016]

>>14155275
don't get pissy with me because i pointed out the lack of soul stirring amidst your hum drum architecture book with kooky bloodborne crazy people who "ha ha ha" between the glimpses of narrative

[Anonymous No.14157330]

>>14150445
>painting mandalas
I should have fucked her, I'd fuck her right now, but she liked Terry Pratchett.

[Anonymous No.14157563]

>>14157330
based threat assessing anon

[Anonymous No.14157567]

>>14141297
infp here
is it common for our type to lonely and desperate for female companionship and a family, but unable to attain it

[Anonymous No.14157583]

>>14157567
No your type is known to be absolute Chads. Grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.14157620]

>>14157583
Lmaooo

[Anonymous No.14157693]

>>14157567
pretty sure we have highest suicide rate so that should serve to answer your depressing question

[Anonymous No.14157876]

>>14141329
>>>14141297 (OP)
>myers briggs is basically astrology
>might as well ask for cancer books

I think there is something true to it, but at the actual state it is only pseudoscience.

I suggest the website "ObjectivePersonality" it explains the problem very well.

[Anonymous No.14158895]

>>14157567
well im a 25 year old lonely virgin

[Anonymous No.14158962]

>>14158895
wow u r just like me we should de-virginize ourselves in each other's company

[Anonymous No.14159508]

>>14149697
ISTJ are the most closed minded drones who are utterly without the capacity for independent thought, and rely solely on building upon their minuscule foundation to interpret reality. I am disgusted whenever I have the displeasure of interacting with these ''people'', though robot is more apt.

[Anonymous No.14159514]

>>14159508
They are literally incapable of thinking outside the box. All of them would happily commit atrocities in the name of ''majority rules'' and ''just doing my job'' - seeking efficiency as truth regardless of context.

[Anonymous No.14159536]

>>14159508
Imagine being so dumb that you wholeheartedly believe what you think to be truth. No room for nuance or abstraction. Using linear rationality off terrible presuppositions and feeling immense superiority for reaching the most banal conclusions, whilst fearing the unknown and dedicating time an effort to stifle creativity because your binary 0's and 1's cant comprehend it. Lashing out in fear and seeking to compartmentalize and box people in your own boring brain.

[Anonymous No.14159543]

>>14141297
Why are you guys so obsessed with this nonsense akin to astrology?

[Anonymous No.14159571]

>>14159543
because akin to astrology it's REAL

[Anonymous No.14159617]

>>14159571
How? And what purpose does it even serve?

[Anonymous No.14159624]

>>14159617
understand fellow man to understand yourself vice versa yoda yoda return to monad get out of demiurge hell Scott Free

[Anonymous No.14159647]

Not literature

[Anonymous No.14159663]

>>14159647
>INFP books
>INFP BOOKS
>BOOKS
i fucking hate you types and wish i knew what mbti to pin you as

[Anonymous No.14159801]

>>14141297
Okay I just got INTJ-T. Is that bad or good?

[Anonymous No.14160023]

>>14159801
Bad, because it means you're super in denial about how scattered your life actually is

[Anonymous No.14160038]

Okay lads I'm doing the test again, will I get fourth time INFP?

[Anonymous No.14160056]

>>14148217
somebody please tell me

[Anonymous No.14160076]

>When it comes to making life-changing choices, you mostly listen to your heart rather than your head.
what the fuck does this even mean

[Anonymous No.14160084]

>>14160038
where are you doing it?

[Anonymous No.14160094]

>>14160076
it's quite simple, anon:

>I decide to do this because it makes me feel X
>I decide to do this because it is the correct, most logical thing to do, regardless of how I feel about it

[Anonymous No.14160102]

>>14160094
these are the same thing

[Anonymous No.14160129]

>>14160023
How so?

[Anonymous No.14160135]

>>14160102
if that's how you see it, it means you are a feeler, anon.

[Anonymous No.14160150]

How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.14160273]

>>14160150
You would make a cute girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.14160399]

>>14160273
wha about me

[Anonymous No.14160487]

>>14160399
probably a whore

[Anonymous No.14160530]

>>14160129
>>14160150
>>14160399
Self-reports rarely represent reality. You're probably not that type, but you might be

[Anonymous No.14160546]

>>14160530
I recognize this but the same difficulties arise from external reporting when you deal with something as philosophical as the mind and people's choices, am I correct? How could someone else know if you would actually prefer not to speak when meeting new people? I conclude there is no true objective way to gather data about personality and therefore condone self reporting for this specific case

[Anonymous No.14160751]

>>14160546
Sure there is - track behavior over time. Pay attention to what comes naturally to people. Does Johnny freak out when he has to spend time by himself, or does Sally get pissy when she goes to family reunions? Does this anecdote look similar to that anecdote? Do your friends seem to go through the same kinds of problems over and over again? When you define functions as observable needs, you gain insight, and incredible patterns emerge.

[Anonymous No.14160801]

>>14160751
But introverted people will usually have reactions which are too minute to observe.

[Anonymous No.14160819]

>>14160801
Bruh, we can see that. That's the observation. Also, that doesn't sync with Jung's explanations

[Anonymous No.14160828]

>>14160801
Not him but introversion is the easiest to spot. Give a man free time, without any obligations or interest, and see if he goes somewhere to be alone by himself or does he want to socialize or talk to people? Spend a few hours with him talking, and see if as time goes by he starts to get tired and more tired. That said, I know people who are really on the edge of both sides and hard to categorize, which is a weakness of MBTI.

[Anonymous No.14160999]

>>14160828
If you want to get him going, just ask him to talk about his things, himself and his worldview

[Anonymous No.14161480]

>>14152249
Isn't there a possibility that this is a spectrum? Like, you're a more alpha autist than most, but other autists, while not especially extroverted, take on the chad role when talking to you.

I find that this is true in my relationship with men. I get along much better with women than men in general, mostly because I dislike the most overt 'manly' traits

[Anonymous No.14161482]

>>14157330
Are you afraid of falling in love?

[Anonymous No.14161490]

>>14141329
The frequency of those posts on /r9k/ shows there's a lot more wrong with those guys than looks.

[Anonymous No.14161510]

>>14161480
>I get along better with women in general

Same. I recently got put into a group (for a uni project) where I’m the only male and I feel so much more at home compared to times where I’ve been put in groups with men in them. I think even normie women are more fun to talk to than normie men.

I’m INFJ, so I wonder if this is a common INFx thing for males.

[Anonymous No.14161524]

I am a INTJ ...
How fucked am I ?

[Anonymous No.14161526]

>>14156753
>Any "personality test" based on you answering questions about yourself will never reflect who you actually are

Has anyone claimed otherwise?

[Anonymous No.14161910]

>>14154748
lmao INTJs are shit at memeing. Here's a superior INTP made meme