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Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:29:57 2019 No.14140365 [DELETED]

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What is your belief, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:31:17 2019 No.14140367 Closest to Gnostic theist as I am Christian

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:31:38 2019 No.14140369 The only logical and reasonable one: agnostic atheist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:32:28 2019 No.14140374 >>14140369 agnostic theist seems more reasonable, considering Pascal's wager

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:33:52 2019 No.14140388 What about religious atheism? This chart is very close minded

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:34:22 2019 No.14140392
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>>14140374
No, TALEB'S WAGER

ont-know-what-we-are-talking-about-when-we-talk-about-religion-3e65e6a3c44e
https://medium.com/incerto/how-to-be-rational-about-rationality-432e96dd4d1a
https://medium.com/incerto/no-worship-without-skin-in-the-game-70b4aa341092
https://youtu.be/VuJD5Zfqti8
https://youtu.be/XAbSmTGJhEA
https://unherd.com/2019/03/why-god-needs-skin-in-the-game/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:35:32 2019 No.14140398 >>14140388 what's that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:37:48 2019 No.14140406 >>14140365 what if you believe in God but know he doesn't exist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:39:44 2019 No.14140415 >>14140369 Gnostic Theist is the most logical one. Read Aquinas and Kirkegaard because I'm not spoonfeeding you

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:40:30 2019 No.14140421 >>14140365 That comic is so retarded. “Gnostic” has an entirely different meaning from what it says, it’s not the opposite of agnostic

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:40:42 2019 No.14140422 >>14140406 how does that work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:41:50 2019 No.14140430 >>14140421 This. Isn't Gnosticism hidden knowledge or something like that? I might be wrong here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:41:51 2019 No.14140431 >>14140422 Read the complete works of Dostoevsky

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:42:33 2019 No.14140433 >>14140431 You mean Kierkegaard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:44:44 2019 No.14140445 >>14140431 I think I know what you mean. Literally me.

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:47:35 2019 No.14140460

>>14140422
I think it's the case for me. Gun to my head, I'd say God doesn't exist, but I often find this near-religious feeling within. I like to pray. I like to believe in grander things. I feel better with belief. I see religion for what it is: a manifestation of human belief. So I don't think it matters whether a god exists in actuality or not. It's the feeling, the faith, that belief that matters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:47:36 2019 No.14140461 >>14140433 Both Dosto and Kierkegaard were fideist

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:48:20 2019 No.14140467 >>14140460 literally me

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:53:54 2019 No.14140489

>>14140365
In the most technical sense possible, I'm agnostic about anything that isn't an apodictic truth.

In practice, I assume what is most probable (based upon empirical/logical indications) until modulating information is presented. Usually god is presented as a negative claim, in which case it can be dismissed out of hand. In cases where the claims are specific, they seem very improbable and psychologically driven.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 15:59:48 2019 No.14140520 >>14140365 >agnostic theist Who the fuck even

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:05:24 2019 No.14140548 >>14140489 Just say you're Agnostic Atheist and end it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:06:37 2019 No.14140556 >>14140520 Me

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:08:08 2019 No.14140562 >>14140556 You're a retard, sorry

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:08:38 2019 No.14140564 >>14140562 why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:09:50 2019 No.14140569 >>14140415 Based & redpilled

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:11:57 2019 No.14140578
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>>14140365
Antitheist. Hopefully God doesn't exist, because if he did, we'd have to destroy him. The best we can do right now is destroy God in the minds of all, which we must do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:13:57 2019 No.14140585 >>14140365 >Everything has to be a on a two axis chart Agnostic theist is retarded and has never seriously existed. Either you're a theist, an atheist or agnostic. There is no agnostic-gnostic scale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:14:43 2019 No.14140589 >>14140578 You can't destroy God. You can barely erase the concept from people's minds, but humans are mythmakers by nature and would arrive at that concept even if they weren't nurtured in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:18:03 2019 No.14140603 >>14140578 haven't you heard? God is dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:18:11 2019 No.14140604 File: 169 KB, 1000x1000, 1538350195248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14140585 Post the three axis version.

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:18:47 2019 No.14140608

>>14140578
Im your antithesis.
Im an exatheist and I would sacrifice all of humanity just to bring God to life. Bringing such a marvelous creature to life is worth any price, any sacrifice, even if I could never experience His magnificent and perfect Love.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:19:50 2019 No.14140610 >>14140603 And then he rose on the 3rd day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:21:41 2019 No.14140616 >>14140608 >>14140578 You're both Nietzschean desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:22:04 2019 No.14140618 >>14140578 >>14140608 What if the esotericists are right and all of reality is but a manifestation of God, we're all just a tiny part of God and he lives through us ?

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:23:36 2019 No.14140624

agnostic atheist

if there's a god they're sadistic, apathetic, really bad at their job, absent, or any number of things. In any case, fuck god.

If god is a being who is truly benevolent he would understand me saying fuck god and wouldnt hold it against me so I feel safe saying that

I think our universe might've been made my someone who was just bored and then either got sick of watching us or doesn't care about us. We're not far off from simulating a universe like ours with AI that can feel pain and there are probably going to be plenty of people just making worlds for shits and giggles

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:23:41 2019 No.14140625 >>14140564 i dont know but i believe you a retard. it could just be silly stories

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:25:09 2019 No.14140632 >>14140624 You're an Agnostic R*dditor as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:26:15 2019 No.14140644 >>14140392 Can you summarise what Taleb's wager is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:26:25 2019 No.14140645 >>14140632 scathing critique

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:27:25 2019 No.14140652 >>14140632 gaythiest BTFO

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:29:53 2019 No.14140664
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>>14140644
Religion is a risk survival heuristic; it helps is survive and stay out of trouble; it is incoherent to criticize someone's beliefs when they help them survive; the mind abhors a vacuum and nothing can fill the void that secularism leaves.
He goes much more in depth. I could probably write an entire book about Talebian Fideism.

Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:32:25 2019 No.14140675

>>14140664
Interesting. I read a bit of Black Swan and I kinda get his general philosophy, although I'm not sure it can be applied here like you have described, because the argument is built on the assumption that religious belief does indeed increase survival. Is there any evidence of this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:33:56 2019 No.14140689 >>14140675 https://medium.com/incerto/how-to-be-rational-about-rationality-432e96dd4d1a https://youtu.be/VuJD5Zfqti8 https://youtu.be/XAbSmTGJhEA He provides evidence here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:36:50 2019 No.14140704 >>14140689 Does it actually improve rates of survival statistically and taking into account other factors?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:43:13 2019 No.14140736 >>14140704 Yes, just watch the videos and read Antifragile and Skin in the Game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:47:19 2019 No.14140754 What if I believe that Jesus died and rose again, but I don't trust anything regarding modern Christianity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:48:37 2019 No.14140764 >>14140754 Gnostic Theist. You don't trust in the institution but you belive in God.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:49:47 2019 No.14140768 >>14140365 I know for sure that either there is a God or not. I'm a gnostic agnostic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 9 16:50:02 2019 No.14140771 >>14140365 >not being a gnostic agnostic I am sure that i dont know what i believe

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