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Can someone explain to me what the point of 'An Encounter' was?

>> No.14136900

A contrast between young and looking forward to life, and old and bitter/yearning for his younger days. I got some pedophilia undertones from it 2 but maybe thats just me

>> No.14136907

>>14136900
>pedophilia undertones
The narrator literally says he was scared the old man was going to kidnap him.

>> No.14136947

>>14136900
>A contrast between young and looking forward to life, and old and bitter/yearning for his younger days
Yes, but what about it? What point was Joyce making? What am I suppossed to take away?

>> No.14136960

>>14136947
That.

>> No.14136970

>>14136960
Totally nonsensical post, thanks for the insight.

>> No.14137063

>>14136887
When you suppose that the old man is England and the little boy is Ireland, the story will make more sense.

>> No.14137112
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>>14136970
>He genuinely doesn’t understand what he’s “taken away” from the story

>> No.14137171

>>14136887
Each of the stories in Dubliners in some way illuminates a certain stage of life. Notice how the characters generally get older as the stories goes on, starting with the boy thinking about the death of the catholic priest who was his mentor. An Encounter isn’t a story I remember super well but perhaps it is about a loss of innocence?

>> No.14137440

>>14137112
That.

>> No.14137481

>>14136887
That was the pedo story, wasn't it? Maybe a dig at the Catholic church.

>> No.14137487

>>14137440
Smoothbrain

>> No.14137490

>>14137487
Orbiter.

>> No.14137493

I was pretty unnerved by this chapter. Even more than The Dead, it's the one that sticks with me the most. The character is just so perfectly Joyce: living in ten timelines at once, utterly out to lunch, oscillates between subdued derangement, intrigue, and anger. Someone who's identity is completely fractured. It felt like the heaviest-handed statement on Ireland he was trying to make in Dubliners.

>> No.14137494

>>14136900
>>14136907
Isn't this the story where the old man walks off to jerk his dick?

>> No.14137497

>>14136900
What? This is total bullshit. The story is clearly about wanting to mature and see new things but then suddenly being confronted by the danger of freedom and realizing the value of the familiar you neglected. The kid shits himself when the pedo accosts them and he suddenly becomes very grateful for his friend being there who he never liked, this all occurs after they ditch school and end up in a part of town they weren't meant to be in. It's thoroughly obvious what the takeaway here is, he wanted adventure then he met a fucked up pervert.

>> No.14137513

>>14137490
Trips are stupid (I honestly don’t know why she doesn’t just post anonymously), but she’s right about this. Joyce was a modernist, different perceptions about a single event is the whole M.O. of the movement, so yes, there is a contrast in different ages. Joyce provides a completely unbiased presentation of this dichotomy in which he doesn’t tell you how you’re supposed to feel about it. what you take away from it (if anything) is ultimately up to you. Joyce wasn’t making a point about anything, just a scene of life as it is.

>> No.14137515

>>14137513
Ok? I wanted to discuss the story and hear other people's interpretations. Is that allowed here on the literature board? Asshole.

>> No.14137522

>>14137515
>asking for people to spoonfeed the moral of the story to you

>> No.14137525

>>14137522
>wanting to discuss literature
Sorry sir, I won't do it again.

>> No.14137545

>>14137525
I think your initial approach was a little confrontational. You really didn’t like the answer and came out swinging.
Liked any of the other stories?

>> No.14137548

>>14137515
> I wanted to discuss the story and hear other people's interpretations
Literally everyone except you is doing that. You asked a weak question but look >>14137513 someone literally answered you and gave you the engagement you asked for

>> No.14137553

>>14137545
Suck a cock.
>>14137548
>You asked a weak question
I asked someone to expand on their post.
>someone literally answered you and gave you the engagement you asked for
They did not provide their own interpretation.

>> No.14137565

>>14137553
Unironically, you're a pseud. You asked for the point of a story, were given an interpretation by someone, didn't understand his post, and then doubled down on your ignorance by being confrontational. Read more books. Though, I do enjoy your taste in publishers. Love Penguin.

>> No.14137568
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>>14137553
Never

>> No.14137571

>>14137565
Post your address so I can kill you.

>> No.14137580

>>14137571
Yes yes, we get it already. You don't need to make your lowbrow qualities any more evident; they were already noted in the first few replies.

>> No.14137584

>>14137494
It's only implied, but yes.
>I say . . . He's a queer old josser!

>> No.14137592

>>14137580
Read any good poems lately?

>> No.14137601

>>14137592
Yes.

>> No.14137610

>>14137601
Glad to hear it.

>> No.14137639

What do you guys think of the end?
>How my heart beat as he came running across the field to me! He ran as if to bring me aid. And I was penitent; for in my heart I had always despised him a little.
I think it's a really honest and relatable moment because I have friends that I've known for a very long time, but still have this unspoken resentment towards. I always feel bad when they come out for me, but somehow it always comes back. I've never really found such an accurate and laconic description of this kind of friendship in any other work of literature.

>> No.14138395

>>14137639
one of my favourite endings in literature ever, immensely beautiful

>> No.14138517

>>14136960
>>14137112
>>14137568
Please Buttersy my cute little mommy you my delightful favourite tripfag, fire of my loins, goddess of my dreams, please for the love of God post a picture of your butthole every night I fantasize about cumming deep inside your lovely little pink hole and making you call me daddy and asking if it hurts and hearing you reply yes daddy then asking you if you're willing to take the pain for daddy then thrusting even harded as you moan everything for you daddy and then cumming deep inside you and grabbing your hair and yelling really loud as your buttocks are pressed against my crotch and sticking two fingers in your mouth as you feel my warm load fill your anal cavity and then calling you a good girl and patting you on the head and watching you lay on your back as you wait for the sperm to drip out of your arsehole and then making some avocado toast for both of us and calling you a good submissive girl as you grab your pained hole and call me a sick fuck please butters do it just once.

>> No.14138918

>>14137493
It's not a chapter, it's a short story. Also, criticizing Joyce for making "heavy-handed" statements about Ireland is quite far off, because he never tried to be constitently very subtle all the time in the first place.