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14130584 No.14130584 [Reply] [Original]

I'm starting to worry that I will go my entire life without having sex at all. I'm a 35 year old incel. I have a good job but I have never even flirted with women. What literature can help?

Seeing pics like this fills me with a deep sense of hopelessness.

>> No.14130605

You need a therapist to manage your anxiety, not books.

>> No.14130616

Love yourself. Make lots of friends Grow your confidence. Date. Volume volume volume.
I also recommend less to no internet
Hey, good luck.

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read this you armored fucker

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These pictures are false gods, brother. That's not a real woman. Real women are full of bad breath and strange hairs that grow up and double speed from moles and gnarly toes and chunky back rolls. They are all like that- oh sure they hold their glory for a bit- bit stay in the long game. You are 35, bascially just coming into your prime.

Go for the Queen of Hearts. Stay positive. Find out what you really want, what your real values are.

>> No.14130694

>>14130616
.>:3

>> No.14130714

>>14130584
I’m a 20 KHV incel, what do I do so I don’t become like you?

>> No.14130716

The Sorrows of Young Werthe
Faust 1
Unironically Decline of the West

Just act upon the intuition for romance and lust

>> No.14130730

>>14130616
>I also recommend less to no internet
Funny, that's also my recommendation to you.

>> No.14130733

Transformation Mastery

>> No.14130734

>>14130584
At this point you either have to convince a 30+ years old woman that you are a good provider, or take trips to some foreign countries.

>> No.14130737

At this point you should just become a monk or try for the priesthood. The church will fund your education

>> No.14130739

>>14130616
>Love yourself

Literally how though? You have to heal your past trauma that is subconsciously making you self-sabotage and hate yourself

>> No.14130744

>>14130605
>lol just pay someone to listen to you bro

>> No.14130757

>>14130689
>full of bad breath
So many women have bad fucking breath, what the fuck is it with them. They look so pretty and sweet and they smell so divine and then you get close and you get a whiff of the air that passes through that crusty maw and hhhhuuugggghhhh fuck me, death pure death, decay, DECAY, decline and bloody fall, entropy in a stench. A rancid essence. A wrenching festering reeking pong that annexes your nostrils forevermore.
Puts me right off, I tell you.

>> No.14130761

>>14130616
butters why don't you just have sex with OP

>> No.14130762

>>14130584
>good job
Then go get a whore, not being a virgin may make you more confident around women.
Just remember that a woman can say rape at any time and your life will be ruined. Or she can divorce rape you.

>> No.14130765

>>14130757
>tfw male and permanent bad breath

>> No.14130772

>>14130734
better for him to stay alone than betabux for some 30+ roastie cumrag lmao
anyone who tells any male to date a 30+ woman in the west today is cringe
all these washed up 30+ women today have fucked 100s of men, literally 100s

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>>14130730
Yeah, well...

>>14130739
You matter. To who most? Sorry, but not to me, to you. Make yourself into what you want. Step by step. You have one shot at your life and you will never be this age again. 60 y/o you will wish to be 35 y/o you, but don’t harp on it.

>> No.14130784

>>14130765
Its alright so do all women, the grimy cunts

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>>14130689
>girls are actually icky, bro! they poop and pee and are full of gooey organs and stuff!
this is such a meme. the best thing to quell your desire for women isn't to pretend they're actually gross, but to see in their beauty the handiwork of God.

>> No.14130792

>>14130789
Guarantee her breath smells like gone off feta cheese

>> No.14130795

>>14130772
Stfu

>> No.14130799

>>14130795
Truth hurts huh?

>> No.14130804

>>14130782
Butterfly, is this your religion? The Holy Trinity?

>> No.14130806

>>14130772
I would say it's up for him to decide whether that life would be better than his current situation.

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>>14130792
you think this phases me?

>> No.14130808

>>14130792
Girls smell amazing, virgin

>> No.14130811

>>14130584
Theres literally no point unless you are part of a religious community. You'll end up dating some used up post-wall femoid otherwise.

>> No.14130824

>>14130808
Their breath doesn't, which you would know if you weren't a LARPing incel.

>> No.14130826

>>14130806
no doubt, but most people always paint a positive picture when talking about dating older women
"oh you can still get a 30+ woman anon it's fine!"
it's more like "if you want you can marry a 30+ cumrag that has had 100 sausages slipped into her cooch that will present you with a variety of problems and her potentially never being satisfied and only there to leech off of you until she decides it's boring because she's been with every man under the sun so why would she find some beta unique"

>> No.14130833

Sex is overrated. Pay some hookers and after a while you'll see what I mean.

>> No.14130838

>>14130799
Everyone ages.
I miss my last girl. We exchanged k owing glances at work a few days ago and smiled at each other. She whispered “you miss me, don’t you?” I admitted it. “This friend sex thing *is* hard.” She concluded. I asked if she missed me too, she said yes, but also that she missed her husband. I told her she needs to go out on a date with some nice guy. I know she doesn’t want to go lesbian and tell her family about any of it.

Older women are lovely and you suck

>>14130804
I have no gurus

>> No.14130844

>virgins giving relationship advice to virgins
OP, you will find someone if you look. Your problem will be low-self esteem, meaning you'll want to settle with the first person who thinks you're interesting. There is no age limit to this stuff. Incels believe that if a man isn't Bill of the Beach by the time he's 17 he'll be cursed to loneliness forever. 30 is not the end of your life. Put yourself out there in front of people and talk. You will find someone.

>> No.14130845

>>14130616
Your advice isn't really advice desu. It's a series of goals to hit with no clear instructions. I assume OP already knows what he needs to do, he simply doesn't know how.

>> No.14130848

>>14130838
Butters, I have an 8" cock that has never been used by a female. Almost new condition, only owner operated. Would you like to be the first one to try it?

>> No.14130850

>>14130826
I don't disagree, but nevertheless this a way out of his current situation if he thinks it's too unbearable. Same with going after women of third world countries. I wouldn't have advised these if it seemed he had any other options, but these are practical solutions that OP could actually pursue.

>> No.14130858

>>14130838
I don't think I've ever been attraced to a woman in her 30s. I'm sure plenty are nice people but women just aren't attractive for very long, sadly. Whoever said that pussy ages like bread was correct.

>> No.14130865

>>14130844
bullshit. OP should just become a monk. his dick wasn't meant for this world

>> No.14130867

>>14130848
Take my earlier advice and go find some woman to be nice to.

>> No.14130869

>>14130844
>You will find someone.
The Original Cope

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>>14130844
>Put yourself out there in front of people and talk. You will find someone.

>> No.14130871

>>14130858
look at this homo. its like you don't even have mommy issues or something

>> No.14130877

Sex is mediocre. Go safely fuck some hookers. Use an escort review community online to avoid pimps and walking diseasebags, take your time to shop around, understand the money you're going to be dropping (remember, the hotel room is extra). Get a "GFE," girlfriend experience, whore. The term has been diluted but it at least suggests a minimum of humanity and personality instead of a walking pincushion of heroin needles who would eat roadkill for another fix. The ideal GFE is some stupid college bitch who is dumb enough to think she's a "sex worker" because she fucks strangers for money. These girls don't want to do it forever, so they will be more likely to practice safe sex, and less likely to have been used by every fucking guy in town before they get to you.

Remember, whores have no shame, so they are not above lying about their age or scamming you out of money if they can. This is why you want to go with women who are relatively new to it, and use an escort review community so you can get girls who have been vetted.

Do this a few times, as much as your budget and wiliness in hounding down a good deal will permit. Make sure to get the most of your money. Don't let the bitch chat you up and waste your hour. Feel her up, suck on her tits, experience the full range of what a naked beautiful young woman has to offer. Then conclude it's not that great, and move on with your life.

Once you get more confident, start targeting young women looking for "sugar daddies" on apps. This is much harder but you can get some very stupid college girls to fuck you if they are dumb enough to think they're entering into some kind of business partnership and they're an exciting young sex worker, as above. Some of these girls will be brand new to it, so you can fuck top shelf 20yo college vagina and then jilt her. But don't play this game unless you know what you're doing. It's kind of like wrestling a live wire in your off hand while you're trying to jack off. Fun but dangerous.

>> No.14130878

>>14130844
there is definitely an age limit for women
once women go past 30 they stop fucking prime males because they're harder to get for them
that's when they'll act all nice to you and shit and be like "it turns out the guy I didn't like in my teens and 20s is now the guy for me xPPPP oh my goddd #blessed #Ilovehim"

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>tfw noticed I am only attracted to women that look like my mom
>white, brunette, skinny, smol bobs, nice legs and hips, nice ass
oh god

>> No.14130888

>>14130869
>>14130872
>my only interaction with humans is on 4chan and my minimum wage job.
it may surprise you to know that pretty much everyone feels like OP, including women. you're more likely to connect with another lonely person than you are with a bored person with a Sex and the City lifestyle, just on numbers.

>> No.14130890

>>14130871
Maybe things will change when I get older, idk. I don't currently understand how old people could be attracted to each other though.

>> No.14130891

>>14130858
Bby, you shallow as hell.
I’m over here pining for a woman who pushed out two kids, and you think your damn memes about bread or milk expiring means anything.
Attraction serves lust, yes, but it serves love best.

>> No.14130893

>wants a gf
>doesn't talk to girls

what were you expecting to happen, dumbass? a girl to drop from the sky and fall into your lap?

>> No.14130902

>>14130877
I could never get with a hooker. The thought that even one person out there knows I had to pay for sex and how autistic I would be during the whole encounter is something my ego cannot allow.

>> No.14130903

>>14130878
>there is definitely an age limit for women
no there is not. women in their 30s regularly marry and date men in their 20s. you are pulling this shit out of your incel ass.

>> No.14130905

>>14130838
>I miss my last girl. We exchanged k owing glances at work a few days ago and smiled at each other. She whispered “you miss me, don’t you?” I admitted it. “This friend sex thing *is* hard.” She concluded. I asked if she missed me too, she said yes, but also that she missed her husband. I told her she needs to go out on a date with some nice guy. I know she doesn’t want to go lesbian and tell her family about any of it
Which dyke Mills and Boon novel did you take this from?

>> No.14130907

>>14130878
This, but unfortunately men's instinctive tendency to perceive a glowing halo of perfection around all women stops them from seeing this until they've seen it a hundred times, or one time so up-close and personal that they'll never forget it.

Once you see it you can't unsee it though. All those female friends suddenly becoming friendly, receptive, and subtly less more "open" to their male friends as they enter their late 20s and especially as they crest 30. It's so sad. Usually even when a woman is close friends with a man, and genuinely values him as a person, so long as he's not on her radar as a potential sex partner, she will subtly treat him like an inferior and be closed-off to him, as an undertone throughout their whole relationship. It's subtle, so the guy probably won't notice it either. Then suddenly she's 27, or 28, and she's panicking (consciously or otherwise), and suddenly there's a change in the vibe.. something he unconsciously picks up on and appreciates but can't quite articulate.. Suddenly she's more receptive, she laughs more at his jokes, she spends more time with him or lets him ramble on for a little longer when they talk.. Hmm, I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that her WOMB IS BECOMING BARREN.

Women are extremely well-adapted parasites. Even the nice ones still have parasite instincts. Watch out.

>> No.14130910

>>14130903
because clown world society has a huge waiting line of thirsty simps waiting for some used up pussy
any self-respecting man knows he should avoid these bitches like the plague

>> No.14130911

>>14130907
t. incel

>> No.14130912

>>14130911
lmao absolutely no argument

>> No.14130913

>>14130883
I'm the opposite. I dislike my mom and hate any woman resembling her. Maybe its related to childhood/adolescence experiences? How was your relationship with your mother?

>> No.14130915

>>14130910
>every woman over 25 has had a billion partners
you have to laugh. this is the new peacocking. ridiculously stupid people have convinced you every woman you encounter is some sort of monster.

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>>14130891
>having some kind of transexual lesbian affair with a married woman and mother
>love
WEW.

>> No.14130917

>>14130902
>how autistic I would be during the whole encounter

I don't think you understand how low a whore is. A standard woman is already fairly dumb to begin with, but to use Aristotelian terminology, a whore is so dumb that she might as well only have a vegetative soul. Not even an animal soul, and certainly not a rational one. Whores are so checked out from reality that they probably don't even have long term memories anymore. A whore cannot judge you any more than a fern can judge you.

>> No.14130919

>>14130912
>unsubstantiated drivel from obese virgins on the internet
>DEBATE ME BRO
you're so starved for anything approaching stimulation, physical or intellectual. it's sad. there is no argument here - you're a retard.

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>>14130919
Take the roastie challenge!

Respond to this image by NOT confirming it is true.

>> No.14130923

>>14130919
>obese
stop projecting fatso

>> No.14130924

>>14130921
i'm not clicking that shit

>> No.14130927

>>14130913
I have always had a great relationship with my mother.

>> No.14130928

>>14130891
I'm not attracted to whoever I'm attracted to because of "memes." My inability to feel attraction towards women who are way older than me is hardly dissimilar to my lack of attraction to men.

>> No.14130929

>>14130584
Just bite the bullet and embrace it. Being a virgin with no contact with women is an essential part of who you are by now. It's like being an autist or a cripple, you have to just deal with it. Find something else to fulfill you so you won't feel unhappy for not having a girl by your side

>> No.14130930

>>14130923
it isn't society' fault your body is gross, dude. do some pushups and shower more than once a week.

>> No.14130936

>>14130714
reflect on your childhood

>> No.14130944

>>14130916
She’s divorced. We’re both women. It was a friend-sex relationship. We both needed each other and enjoyed ourselves on three occasions, but she has family obligations and only accepted my advances conditionally.

>>14130928
Not asking you to whack off to milf/cougar porn, dude. Just know you’ll be old one day and you’re going to have to adjust your opinions

>> No.14130947

>>14130929
Literally the opposite of what he should do you dimwit

>> No.14130948
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>>14130584
A woman who looked just like this sat next to me on the train today. The train was packed so she huddled in close. Our arms were touching and she would occasionally lean into me when the train was jostling us around. I could smell her shampooed hair and perfume. My heart was beating fast the whole train ride. Anyone else know this feel or am I too far gone? Stuff like this is really my only interaction with women.

>> No.14130949

>>14130915
I mean any normal person has probably had quite a few by then (and for a virgin, quite a few might as well = a billion). To imply such a thing is hardly outrageous.

>> No.14130951

Op, I’m in the same boat. Same age even. You have to identify what your issue is, the root cause. For me it is fear of rejection. I had to figure out who first rejected me. It was my mother when she left. I figured out the cause but still need to go to a therapist to learn why that fear is overblown.

>> No.14130958

>>14130838
What is Stirner then?

>> No.14130960

Literally just hire a hooker dude

>> No.14130961

>>14130915
>ridiculously stupid people have convinced you every woman you encounter is some sort of monster.
not a monster, just a used up hole

>>14130930
bruh I'm 5'10 160 fuck out of here rodent

>> No.14130962

>>14130891
Maybe your oneitis doesn't want you because you're a washed up tubby loser who spends her spare time getting bullied by autists online because she has nothing else of substance to do. How could she not see you as anything other than a pathetic needy hunk of lard, a vacuous hole that she can use and discard for a bit of fun and then back to the people that she actually cares about. You're a nothing in her eyes, an embarrassment that she will spend the rest of her life striving to forget.

>> No.14130963

>>14130944
Not really an opinion, innit

>> No.14130965

>>14130944
>Just know you’ll be old one day and you’re going to have to adjust your opinions
Unlike women's and unless you're a complete autist, male attractiveness increases with age until 30-40.

>> No.14130971

>>14130949
>any normal person
you have no concept of normal. a person's fumblings at junior prom hardly count for a mark against their integrity. it's this ridiculous fear of being judged against a prior partner, of not measuring up. it's the incel's deepest desire to best every single partner he perceives his prospective mate has ever been with, even if it's only two or three dudes. to equate such experiences with the idea that a woman is used goods is fucking hilarious.

>> No.14130974

>>14130958
He was a nice guy, very bright and witty.
Poor Friedrich seemed cold and prickly.
I would love to have met them.

>> No.14130976

>>14130888
Yeah because that's worked put so well so far. Literal Grandma tier advice, please neck yourself

>> No.14130978

I think we should all agree that sex is fun when it's consensual, the number of times we've done it (or not), and the number of people we've done it with have no bearing on us as human beings. What's important is what makes us happy and fulfilled.

>> No.14130979

>>14130962
>loser who spends her spare time getting bullied by autists online
This is the part I never understood. Of all the places on the world wide web, why would a 50 years old "woman" would willingly choose to get insulted here everyday?

>> No.14130980

>>14130961
>posting height and weight
>on the internet
diet is 90% of what you're trying to accomplish. you'll notice the fat loss in your face and arms first, and your belly last. Don't get discouraged.

>> No.14130983

>>14130978
I want to have sex and a cute gf that would make me happy and fulfilled you tedious cunt.

>> No.14130984

>>14130980
you're trying too hard

>> No.14130986

>>14130976
>i looked at a woman one time and she didn't notice
>guess i'm a virgin forever
why are incels the laziest fucks, good god. it takes more than a you too and some cologne you utter manchild.

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>>14130962
She loves her kids.
>>14130963
It is.
>>14130965
You’re always weird and ugly to me. Aliens.

>> No.14130989

>>14130962
Christ anon

>> No.14130992

>>14130983
I'm a 36 year old woman. I've had over 40 sexual partners. I'm not ashamed and will answer honestly if asked. I've had lots of men find me disgusting after me telling them this. It hurts a bit but I figure it's good riddance and an easy way to weed out men who probably wouldn't be good for me anyway. Current guy I'm dating hasn't asked and had mentioned that he really doesn't care, so that's good.

>> No.14130995

>>14130979
>to get insulted here everyday?
I’m not effected by that.

>> No.14130998

>>14130917
wrong. a human is "a living thing possessing logos." the whore has rejected the logos, and thus become merely a living thing, or "thing which is alive." but this doesn't make her an animal, because an animal is a "living thing possessed by logos." the animal can't make its own decisions or think, but it also can't choose to *not* think, i.e. rejecting its logos. the logos has control over the animal. the whore however, does have the bailtiy to reject the logos because man possesses it, and one can always rid oneself of a possession. what does a man or woman become when they reject the logos? pure "alive." a beast. the thing which is more evil than even satan. a thing absent of any order, beauty, compassion, logic, etc. chaos. self-consumption. hell. the ouroboros. its beyond description, but we can call it the total absence of God.

>> No.14131001

>>14130584
Models by Mark manson is decent

>> No.14131003

>>14130978
No, not everyone is gonna agree with your basic-bitch boomer morality lmao

>> No.14131004

>>14130992
Keep your trip on Butterfly, I can't filter you when you post as anon.

>> No.14131005

>>14130992
it's better to shill romance books in the blogosphere, man. here it's obvious you're just some incel with an axe to grind.

>> No.14131009

two trannies in this thread
can you spot them?

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>>14130948
>he sat next to a woman
bruh, i don't even know what that feels like. fuck off Chad

>> No.14131014

>>14130986
my what a strawman you've built for yourself there, you vacuous moron.

>> No.14131017

>>14131009
i see the one tranny, the lowercase one spazzing out and calling everyone an incel so the woman collective will accept his garish transvestitism as authentic femininity

who is the other tranny?

>> No.14131018

>>14130992
What has that got to do with anything

>> No.14131021

>>14131017
correct
butters is the other one

>> No.14131024

>>14130995
One participates in a community because one likes the community and the community likes them back. Neither of this applies to you. You may think you are showcasing your resilience, but in reality you probably have self-esteem issues. You keep coming back because you genuinely believe this is how you should be treated.

>> No.14131026

>>14130974
Would you have sex with Stirner? And Stirner obviously inspired your thinking, wouldn't you consider him an influence and one of your teachers?

>> No.14131027

>>14130986
Yeah sure, that's all I've done just looked at women. I haven't swallowed and acted upon all the useless meme advice that has come my way from retards like you, oh no.

>> No.14131029

>>14130838
>Older women are lovely and you suck
They are all one or multiple of the following:
Pitiful
Pathetic
Bitter
Spiteful
Desperate
Crazy
Dumb
Their own worst enemy.

Source: I deal with them every day at work, older women (especially post menopause) are by far the worst demographic, even worse than teens

>> No.14131031

>>14131014
yes, so totally unlike the rock solid logic of "all women are whores" you fucking simp.

you're whining about something that hasn't happened because you've done nothing to make it happen.

>> No.14131032

>>14130987
And she will never love you.

>> No.14131033

>>14131027
well that's obvious, you're still a virgin. what advice have you followed, apart from the advice peddled on 4chan?

>> No.14131035

>>14131031
You're tilting at windmills you massive retard.

>> No.14131036

>>14131018
I'm on lunch at work so I'll try to make this brief! I was reading through a few chans and just general Internet searching about casual sex and feminism and the like. It just got me thinking about my past sexual history and how it's shaped who I am today. Im just curious to hear from other women who have a high numbered sexual history because I've never known any women other than myself with one (In my personal circle). Even among male friends the highest number has been maybe 6. I feel like the odd one out and I'm curious to hear from other.

My ex frequently liked to say I was a whore that he saved. When he broke up with me he wrote a Facebook post detailing my sexual past. Very darling. Male friends and female friends are surprised but have never been rude to me about it or commented on it. At least to my face. My husband knows and has a past in the past mentality. He knew before we were even official because he's one of those people that wants to know every deep secret before committing seriously. I regret some of my choices and some of the situations but I started very very very young. Like...almost sickeningly young really. I think that my past has formed who I am today and I'm all for consenting adults having casual safe consented sex.

>> No.14131040

>>14131029
What about the ones that are living virtuous lives as loving mothers?

>> No.14131041

>>14131035
and you're riding behind on the donkey whining.

>> No.14131046

>>14131029
>older women (especially post menopause) are by far the worst demographic, even worse than teens
Thank you for stating this. Old women are fucking witches. Even the nice grandmas turn to evil bitches the second something doesn't go their way. They're all basically Hillary Clinton types. Now imagine how mentally ill a nation must be to elect one of these hags to lead them. Yikes!

>> No.14131050

>>14131036
Post your feet

>> No.14131051

>>14131026
An influence of course. For the millionth time no. I am not attracted to men

>>14131029
Lovely, complicated and resourceful. I want a house full of em. You’re a misanthropic bitch.

>>14131032
We just work together.

>> No.14131053

>>14131010
Literally me.

>> No.14131061

>>14131053
>>14131010
It can't be you, because according to internet trannies and orbiters, all incels are fat neckbeards living in their basement.

>> No.14131067

>>14131036
I'm a 29 year old guy who's had over 20 partners, I had a fwb that had slept with over 70 guys.

I can tell you for certain it has an effect. There's a very clear personality and outlook on life, relationships and sex between people with few or no past partners, and those with many. I guarantee if we met I would be able to tell you'd had a fair few partners after talking for a bit

>> No.14131070

>>14131061
Just fucking stop.

>> No.14131072

>>14130584
I first had a gf (and had sex with her) when I was 16.

>> No.14131079

>>14131010
This is also usually me except I get uncomfortable when they sit next to me.

>> No.14131082

>>14130789
Sure they're pretty. When they're 12-16.

>> No.14131084

>>14131072
You're not a normie because of that. You're a normie because you saw someone who had less than you and, despite your experience being completely average and only an accomplishment relative to someone unusually unfortunate, your normie instincts still compelled you to let him know that you're higher on the normie social status totem pole, for no reason.

>> No.14131091

>>14131051
>You’re a misanthropic bitch.
I'm a guy and I love women, just not old ones. Younger women are absolutely lovely but older women seem to think the world should revolve around them.

>>14131040
It entirely comes down to what kind of man their husband is. Most boomer men are pathetic so their wives become witches like >>14131046 described. There's always exception but they are just that, rare exceptions.

>> No.14131102

>>14131061
i just have resting school shooter face and scare people away. not particularly ugly, fat or short. i have no deficiencies but a lack of qualities.

>> No.14131106

>>14131084
>someone who had less than you
You're a normie because you assume this somehow puts me above him.

>> No.14131107

>>14131033
>worked out
>changed wardrobe and hairstyle to whatever shit was fashionable at the time
>got a good job and started making good money
>went to social events and meetups
>went to clubs and societies
>started a host of meme hobbies
>went on nights out
>started drinking alcohol
>did online dating
>moved cities
>moved countries
>consistently talk to women
>follow a whole host of meme advice of how to converse (b yourself, smile, act natural, act mysterious, act playful, make jokes, show off a talent, be direct with your intent, be subtle with your intent, be vulnerable, be ultra masculine, blah blah blah ad infinitum)
>lowered my standards
>lowered my standards even further
And more shit I don't even remember

>> No.14131110

>>14131041
>he thinks this means anything

>> No.14131111

>>14131067
you can tell who has had a bunch of sexual partners by observing them in public for a few minutes and seeing how they behave, what they wear, etc.

>> No.14131113

>>14131107
Have you tried just flipping a coin and letting change decide each move?

>> No.14131116

>>14131051
>We just work together
And you're not longing for her crusty minge? Yeah right

>> No.14131118

>>14130584
Post a pic of your physique and an average outfit. You probably have major problems in the aesthetic department.

>> No.14131122

>>14130584
you shouldn't worry about missing sex, you should worry about finding love

>> No.14131125

>>14131102
>i just have resting school shooter face and scare people away
Same. I remember overhearing this guy tell some Stacy about how I always have 0 emotion and have a heart like a machine. Funny because I'm always anxious and constantly worrying about everything, but I just don't express it on my face. If someone shot up my university and they didn't know who it was, they'd probably arrest me.

>> No.14131131

>>14131111
You can tell some but not all, by their personality, the way they behave and their views always give it away.

With guys it's not as easy. I've met guys who've had a load of sexual partners and act like desperate virgins, and I've met guys who've had 1 or no partners and you'd think they'd had a tonne. With guys it comes down to their personal priorities in life and confidence.

>> No.14131135

>>14131131
>personal priorities and confidence
dude

>> No.14131139

Guys I just found out I have to talk to girls to get a gf...

Books on the feel?

>> No.14131144

>>14131122
I'm worried about both shitstain

>> No.14131151

>>14131139
You have to talk to girls that find you attractive

>> No.14131153

>>14131135
I'm saying you can't tell how many partners they've had because of those things, not that those things are what gets guys laid.

>> No.14131162

>>14130584
tiddies

>> No.14131166

>>14131139
How to flirt in sign language

>> No.14131167

>>14131070
Butter stop pretending that you know what love is. Lesbians have no clue what love is.
I've met a girl once. We went to the first base immediately, never futher. I didn't push at first, being after a bad breakup, then broke up with her because she never had time to meet. A few month later she told me that she was a lesbian, just got a little curious at the time. Bitch.
Met with her eight years later. She was in a five year long relationship, but she wanted a kid, and the other girl didn't, so they broke up. Before giving up, getting pregnant and becoming a single mother, she tried dating. She told me about thirty stories from her dates and mentioned that there were many more.
Moral of the story is that there was something really wrong with every single one.
Oh and at around 14-15 years old she tried to kill herself and while being alone she walked around the apartment and open the doors naked to the mailman and anyone else that showed up.
I don't know what happened to her before that, but it's a simple fact that the vast majority of lesbian were abused as children.

>> No.14131169

am i still an incel if a girl looks in my direction? 28 yr old khv btw

>> No.14131171

>>14130789
thanks mr skeltal

>> No.14131176

>>14130838
>We exchanged k owing glances at work
where do you think she works guys?

>> No.14131184

>35
Wtf, I keep hoping these aren't real but some of you must be telling the truth. Are your expectations absurdly high for the women you go for? You do go for women, right? Do you not leave your house? Do you not work or go have drinks with friends somewhere that might expose you to females?

>> No.14131187

>>14131151
This keeps getting harder and harder why wasn't I told sooner?

>> No.14131192

>>14131166
How would a blind girl read sign language?

>> No.14131198

>>14130948
That feel never changes. Had it happen at a funeral a couple days ago. I'd seen this woman at the wake the night before. Pretty, about my age, no wedding ring. Didn't know who she was, but I could tell she was from the other side of the family, so not related to me. Then at the funeral, everyone files in, and I turn to find her sitting next to me.

When I was younger, I would have thought it an accident. Now I know better: she put herself there. It came to the part where they hold hands, and she stuck hers right out for mine. I'm 50, but it felt like I was 15 again.

The key is to act on the invitation. I was going to introduce myself at the lunch afterwards, but she wasn't there. So now I have to contact her directly, which will be more awkward, but worth it. Next time a chick leans into you, don't miss a chance. Say something, even if it's just hello.

>> No.14131202

>be me
>look 15 until I was 21
>absolutely swamped with internships and now uni for the last two years
>turning 24 next week, kgv.

At least I look like I'm 19 so it's not that bad but damn does time fly when you're a faggot

>> No.14131204

>>14131184
The normie's mind is too small to comprehend the incel experience

>> No.14131211

>>14131184
>Do you not work or go have drinks with friends somewhere that might expose you to females?
what do you think, retard

>> No.14131212

>>14131184
Not him but I'm in the same boat at 40.
>Are your expectations absurdly high for the women you go for?
No, my one and only expectation is that she have a beating heart desu.
>Do you not leave your house?
I leave the house pretty much everyday. Don't really talk to anyone though.
>Do you not work or go have drinks with friends somewhere that might expose you to females?
I work but don't have any friends to get drinks with.
I know at least a dozen people who are in a similar situation. It's getting more and more common.

>> No.14131213

>>14131198
>a woman sat next to me
>she's deffo interested
You are what I fear to be

>> No.14131223

>>14131198
>I'm 50
ok boomer

>> No.14131225

>>14131212
>>14131211
I have friends and go out regularly with them and it doesn't mean shit. Being regularly in the vicinity of women doesn't mean shit. Having regular conversations with women doesn't mean shit. Nothing ever happens.

>> No.14131234

>>14131213
She didn't have to sit next to me. She was there with family, and could have put her brother or someone else between us or just turned into a different pew. Women rarely approach men, so they find little ways to make it easy (or hard) for the man to approach them. I'm not saying it was an invitation to sex, but it was an invitation to approach.

You're saying you fear to be a normal man, because that's all I'm talking about: hey, she might be interested, why not find out?

>> No.14131237

Devote more time to charity

>> No.14131240

>>14131234
I fear to be someone as completely delusional as you. By all means take your shot but get fucking real.

>> No.14131246

>>14131198
Good luck boom boom

>> No.14131253

Buddhism. Do away with sexual desires. They muddy the thought.

>> No.14131256

>>14131192
Slap her ass, she'll get the message

>> No.14131258

>>14130584
I'm gonna go full broscience and say that you lack any stamina, mostly it's all about primitive instincts, you have to forget about books and do some crazy shit, this means eat clean, lift, probably some hunting, dress nicely and finally the most difficult part, find a girls and hit on her, if this doesn't work find another one and so on, statistics say you are going to have sex, sooner or later, it can take years, who knows, after many years most anons are going to tell you something like this because it works, or you can also pay, it's a lot faster.

>> No.14131264

>>14131225
Normies will always try to give people like us advice because they can't comprehend the situation. They'll always think you're doing something wrong, and maybe you are. But if you can't ever fix it, does it really matter what advice they give? Most normies have a fuck ton of things they do wrong, but it doesn't affect their dating lives. The truth is that you most likely have something that you can't fix (looks or charisma, which is just a byproduct of looks, height, frame, voice, etc.) and normies don't understand why this makes you unattractive. I've had women tell me "there's someone out there for you" but they're never that one for me. Why is that? Go figure.

>> No.14131265

>>14131212
>I know at least a dozen people who are in a similar situation
Did you ever think about getting together to hang out

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>>14131258
>just approach 100,000 girls bro
is this really sound advice?

>> No.14131301

>>14131184
I'm 35 and in this type of situation. The best way to think of this is that you have some irrational fear that is keeping you from getting into a relationship or even interacting with women. You probably even have a physical reaction when talking to women, like stammering or your face reddening. Your brain understands that you feel terrible in these situations and you modify your behavior to not be put into them. You are essentially your own jailer. Your brain is keeping you out of danger and alone.

>> No.14131306

>>14131265
I don't much keep in contact with any of them these days. Most moved away, others drifted. A while back we had a get together, the first and last. It was a a depressing wankfest. Everyone was just complaining and wallowing. A handful started crying. It only served to make me more miserable and awakened me to how pathetic we all were. Never again.

>> No.14131307

>>14131265
bet you'd like to join their group glownigga

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>>14130948
>>14131010
>>14131053
>>14131061
>>14131079
>>14131102
>>14131125
I just usually turn my head and look at them with a slight smile until they look at me and I smile more and then she smiles more and then I say "hello" and she says hello and pulls her hair behind her ear. I put my arm over her and she says "well your forward aren't you" and when she gives that forward I put my hand on her hip and pull her closer in a inferring sexual manner.

I'm also 6 ft 4, extremely good looking, intelligent, charismatic and confident so that probably helps.

>> No.14131311

>>14131308
>tall
>extremely good looking
>so that probably helps
Yep. Intelligence doesn't matter. Chad deadbeats get laid more than STEMfags. Charisma is a byproduct of looks. Confidence is a meme.

>> No.14131326

>>14130757
Didn't have much problems with bad breath. Stinky ass, on the other hand...

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>>14131311
>Charisma is a byproduct of looks.
Anon! I'm ignorant of charisma but you seem to know a lot about it. Care to discuss it with me?

>> No.14131342

>>14130878
Strange because i'm red pill and i've never experience this. I must be a small time chad.
Most women, young or mature, act bitchy with me, Some don't, but it's often not connected to their age. I can have 40 year old women who act like a total bitch to me, and a 19 who will quickly have sentiments for me.
To my experience, women really tend to become easier when they reach 45-55 of age. Then they stop the bullshit, only partly thought, because they really don't have many options.

>> No.14131356

>>14130651
very based, but won’t help him with women. it’ll just strengthen his belief that he’s screwed

>> No.14131362

>>14131332
Socrates was such an annoying fucker. I can just imagine some old man trying by fruit and then being harangued by Socrates and his gang of hoodlums about the nature of fruit or some shit. Glad they killed this nigga.

>> No.14131375

>>14131362
Annoying or not, he was certainly charismatic, and he doesn't particularly look as good as other greek sculptures.

>> No.14131379

>>14130584
Let's go OP, together, into the FAR RIGHT OF InCELDOM.

>> No.14131380

>>14131273
Definitely, it's better than doing nothing if you think about it. If you are in good shape, you are in check (nice clothes, nice haircut, clean...), you feeling amped (no fap when you are looking girls) and you manage to keep your shit together (no incel shit, no depressive shit, no oneitis shit, no internet culture and so one) most definitely you are going to be able to fuck single mothers and fugly girls sooner or later, if you keep practicing some day you maybe can fuck some normies, butterfaces, good looking girls on your league, who knows, some guys overcome their traumas really fast, some others just don't want to give the step, is up to you, it's like everything in life, you have to practice.

>> No.14131385

>>14131167
Some (most?) homosexuals try it out just to see. I was only ever able to think it over at that age. This girl was clearly a bisexual and a confused flake. You think nudists are all sexually abused?
But I know love, anon. All sorts.

>> No.14131386

>>14131264
The most obnoxious of all is
>just develop a better personality.
Like you can will yourself to be funny or interesting or charismatic or articulate. Some people just can't make it. Why must we lie to ourselves otherwise?

>> No.14131401

>>14131375
Yeah that's true. He certainly had a unique charm about him.

>> No.14131436

>>14131386
>just reverse 15 years of NEET social programming bro!

>> No.14131461

>>14131386
It may be difficult, but so is losing weight and putting on muscle. It can be done. Not telling you to lie to yourself about it.
I used to be a hell of a lot more introverted, I’m still a very quiet person, but I can handle a conversation, stick up for myself, etc.

>> No.14131478

>>14130584
What is the trauma that caused this?

>> No.14131485

>>14131461
You had the capacity for that in you. I don't. I know my limits. Now drown yourself you dyke cunt.

>> No.14131493

>>14131436
It's not even that sometimes. Some people are just boring as fuck. Like from birth. They're slow, they're voice is dreary, the stuff that naturally interests them is dull too all but them and they're too inarticulate to sell it to anybody else. It goes beyond socialization. It's innate.

>> No.14131495

>>14131461
Butters, you're a female. If a girl is shy, she's cute. If a male is shy, he's a creep.

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>>14131485
So convinced of his own inferiority that he thinks to lash out at his betters.
Am I supposed to give up on you now? So you can sink away and play the victim? Go if you want. You’re anonymous to us all. Take your worthless sass with you, it does no good to you nor harm to me

>> No.14131513

>>14131493
Yeah, I agree with that as well. I've always been an autist throughout my whole life. It's not even due to circumstances, because I went through public schooling and had the same upbringing as other kids. I'm guessing you could walk into an elementary school and pick out the kids who will have successful social lives later on with a high degree of accuracy. There are always some odd cases, but yeah it's innate for the most part. You either have it or you don't. This doesn't fit well with modern society's mantra that you can be whatever if you just put in enough effort or have the right tools.

>> No.14131514

>>14130605
you could pay a whore and the fines for getting caught with a whore for less than what you have to pay a therapist for. Also have fun talking about sex issues with your female therapist.

>> No.14131520

>>14131506
We really got to you this time huh? Daft bint.

>> No.14131521

>>14131495
Men and women are not monolithically of one type.
Like I said from the start. Grow your confidence by finding your self worth. Make friends, socialize. Break out of that shell and woo a girl that likes a quite guy. If that fails you will have friends

>>14131520

>> No.14131523

>>14131514
>Also have fun talking about sex issues with your female therapist.
i can see it
"oh my god becky you won't believe what happened at work today. so this skinny 25 year old white guy who is obessed with reading some guy called Whitehead I think? came in and started rambling about not having a wife to make kids with. he kept mumbling stuff about books too. i almost burst out laughing. he was telling me about how no girls pay attention to him.. lmao omg so weird"

>> No.14131525

OP, or anyone else like it, are any of you able to point to events in your childhood that made you like this? Did a person make you feel guilty about sex? Do you feel like a closeted heterosexual?

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>>14131520
Dense mofo

>> No.14131529

>>14131521
>Break out of that shell and woo a girl that likes a quite guy. If that fails you will have friends
>if that fails you can just be her orbiter bro!
Butters! You never disappoint.

>>14131525
Yeah, being born.

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>a whole thread on /lit/ telling OP how to get laid.
>not a single literature recommendation for someone past their prime who is not famous and will never have children.

>> No.14131542

>>14131525
My parents divorced when I was 7 and my mother moved out of the country. I'm now 35 and have never had a relationship. Afraid of rejection.

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he does flirst with a thot, but casts thotbegone when she makes it a choice between her and his writing. Somehow I think this is an autobiography of Jack London, and one of the only Jack London novels with a sad ending.

>> No.14131559

>>14131529
I didn’t say that. I’m talking about the friends you make, or already have, from the socializing phase.

>>14131525
I was raised wrong. Christian conservative and cloistered as fuck.

>> No.14131562

>>14131529
>Yeah, being born.
Are you sure that there weren’t childhood events that you maybe forgot? My mom was obsessed and ashamed about her sexuality and made sure that I would be ashamed. Every single time there was a movie or commercial relating to sex, she would start mocking me like “oh nice, anon” or when I was buying a game with a woman on the cover she said “do you see her boobs” on a really belittling way to shame me. She would make fun of my penis when she saw it at the doctors office. In middle and high school she would say thing like “I better never see you talking to any girls”. This type of shame happened daily, all in an effort to make me believe that sex is bad. And now, I believe sex is bad. I feel it’s the most shameful thing I could ever admit to. Which is why I feel closeted.

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The Mayor of Cuckerbridge.

Though most of Thomas Hardy's protagonists are in a relationship this might fit your mood, if not try Jude the Obscure.

>> No.14131584

>>14131562
What a fucked up woman.

>> No.14131590

>>14131584
Yup

>> No.14131594

>>14131525
>are any of you able to point to events in your childhood that made you like this?
I would say there were many factors involved. For one, my father was never present. Also not sure what problem I have or had, but as a kid apparently I was noticeably different from my peers, so I was bullied from elementary school to high school, which became worse and worse as it progressed. High school was socially hell for me. I remember my classmates would start laughing at me by my just entering the room.
>Did a person make you feel guilty about sex?
And this. My religious mother would talk about how god sends sinners to hell whenever anything resembling sexuality were brought up.
Now that I think about it, no wonder I'm so fucked. I'm getting better though, so there's still hope.

>> No.14131605

>>14131562
If that's true, that's just weird. I feel bad for you. No, I don't have any events in my life that made me this way. I've just always been a shy child from day one. Even when I had friends, I was always the quiet guy in the group. My mom says I was shy during my toddler years as well.

>> No.14131616

>>14130927
Could she be a narcissist and treat you as the golden child?

>> No.14131619

>>14131605
>I was shy during my toddler years as well.
Same

>> No.14131654

>>14131024
based, mothcunt btfo'd

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>>14131024
>>14131654

>> No.14131664

>>14130584
guide to sex:

lower your standards absurdly low
be interested in others
sympathetic and empathetic
be funny / have a sense of humor
make your quirks the best qualities
ie : you like your piercings? exemplify them because while some will find it ugly others will love it
learn to love rejection, be ready for a lot of it
better hygiene / take care of yourself
shower daily, cologne, learn how to style, haircuts, go to the gym
go out more in public places and make conversation with randoms wherever you go, elevators, lines for food
learn to smile at everyone, just a nice casual happy attitude smile
greet others and do basic manners, bless you, thank you, how are you, goodnight, get home safe
learn that no one owes you anything, doing all of this is just the basics to being a better person. it will make you happier and will make others like you more. if you literally did all of this stuff 70% of the time you’d be getting laid regularly or at least have a gf

>> No.14131693

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