/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14123292]

>tfw Zoomers are all degenerate, materialist, ahistorical, commie yet consumerist trannies
Books on the fall of civilizations?

[Anonymous No.14123487]

Atomised.

[Anonymous No.14123494]

>>14123292
>tfw when people still fall for the 'this entire generation is crap' meme

[Anonymous No.14123505]

>>14123292
Michel Onfray - Decadence

[Anonymous No.14123509]

Don't blame the zoomers for societies slide into decadence. Who fed them these ideals? Dont bitch about them all being queers, what ideology and political system fosters this level of identity crises and victimhood? Think, don't react.

[Anonymous No.14123522]

>>14123292
>its the children fault

[Anonymous No.14123525]

>>14123522
>its not the children's fault

[Anonymous No.14123529]

Zoomers are based. They live off of gfuel and fortnite and are satisfied with various material goods

[Anonymous No.14123532]

>>14123292
>blaming the youngest generation and not the boomers who willfully fucked the environment and economy for their own selfish gain and absolutely obliterated the institution of marriage leading to one of the worst parenting generations in recent history
boi

[Anonymous No.14123541]

>muh boomers
Absolute cringe meme, especially if you're not American.

[Anonymous No.14123546]

Zoomers might actually bring some fucking social democratic reform to this burger dystopia because they're not brainwashed into thinking that the government doing literally anything with the economy is actually Stalinism. It would be nice to not end up with six figures of debt if I get seriously ill.

[Anonymous No.14123574]

>>14123541
This desu. My boomer parents worked way harder for way less, meanwhile most of my late millennial/early zoomer friends "networked" themselves into lucrative flextime jobs that require literally zero physical labor.

[Anonymous No.14123579]

>>14123292
>muh degenerate
ermagerd this kids goes to parties and hangs out with his FRIENDS and drinks you know what? ALCOHOL! THAT'S RIGHT!!! why are they having so much fun and also *gasp* PREMARITAL SEX!!! can you believe it!! This book written by some jew tells me that's bad!! Why don't I have any friends??? I'm so based and redpilled
>consumerist
yes so you're probably some buddhist who practices asceticism right? it really blows my mind how hypocritical you faggots are, when you say this shit yet i can guarantee you consume the same if not more than the average zoomer

[Anonymous No.14123597]

>>14123509
>Don't blame the zoomers for societies slide into decadence
this. they aren't guilty of being born into it, but will be if they let their children grow up to be the same.

[Anonymous No.14123599]

>>14123541
there is a demonstrable shift in multiple central aspects of society like economic prospects, family structure, environmental viability, ect. this shift occurred exactly when the boomers were at their height of influence, so if you can blame a generation, it is the one to blame. also most of these changes only have their real negative effect on the younger generation, which is why we now have record suicide levels, record levels of mental health issues, a growing and obscene concentration of wealth, and the complete breakdown of the family where most marriages fail and most children are born out of wedlock now

[Anonymous No.14123613]

>>14123597
They need to build families. I know I'm dreaming of nonsense here, but the death of the family unit fucked black people forever. And to see other groups let that institution decay is sad.

[Anonymous No.14123618]

>>14123292
>tfw when zoomers are just what millenials dream they could have been

[Anonymous No.14123624]

>>14123292
Cringe

[Anonymous No.14123644]

>implying there's any way to break the cycle of tyranny

History is circular. Our democracy will descend into anarchy, and we will soon crave the iron fist of monarchs. Then we start over.

We were lucky enough to live in the crest of the sine wave. Stop bitching and count your blessings.

>but muh end of history

[Anonymous No.14123649]

>>14123579
>ermagerd this kids goes to parties and hangs out with his FRIENDS and drinks you know what? ALCOHOL! THAT'S RIGHT!!! why are they having so much fun and also *gasp* PREMARITAL SEX!!! can you believe it!! This book written by some jew tells me that's bad!! Why don't I have any friends??? I'm so based and redpilled
and?

[Anonymous No.14123654]

>>14123644
>circular history
cringe

[Anonymous No.14123661]

>>14123649
people on this board this is degenerate

[Anonymous No.14123672]

>>14123613
this may be racist and unfounded but from what i've seen they treat their offspring -- not even kids -- different than the rest. i was looking up nigerian birth tourism and children were seen as a means to an end, not the end itself even whem the context shifted away from birth tourism it seemed so in on post a woman was talking about how her firstborn was a failed attempt at that, and that since then she had tried again. I couldn't imagine people thinking like that, it never even crossed my mind. maybe birth tourists dont really have much scruples but idk. it starts to make some sense when applied to some things. not that other don't do it, but it seems to be so, mostly. my 2 cents.

[Anonymous No.14123688]

>>14123649
>ignoring the suicide rates
>ignoring the opioid epidemic
>ignoring the academic failure rate of men
>ignoring the divorce catastrophe
>ignoring the stagnation of wages
>ignoring the growing mental health crisis
dude, there are serious and growing issues with our society, the question in this thread seems to be whose fault is it and what should we do about it now

[Anonymous No.14123703]

>>14123292
Get fucked boomer. If I throw some 3% bonds in a burning building will you run in for them?

[Anonymous No.14123717]

>>14123661
it absolutely is

[Anonymous No.14123793]

>>14123599
This. Blaming boomers makes sense.

[Anonymous No.14123805]

>>14123703
No but if you ship some Mexicans up here he’ll hire them under the table on Saturday and scream Build the wall on Sunday

[Anonymous No.14123810]

>>14123579

[Anonymous No.14123816]

>>14123654
t. Hegelian
you know where to go back to

[Anonymous No.14123817]

>caring about generations
You are part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.14123831]

>>14123717
if that what makes you happy lil incelbro

[Anonymous No.14123855]

Reminder that unfunded infrastructure, liabilities, and excessive public debt are generational theft. 30 yr retirement on your children’s back.

[Anonymous No.14123886]

>ahistorical
>materialist
>commie
But that’s paradoxical anon, read Marx.

[Anonymous No.14123921]

Ok Boomer

[Anonymous No.14123929]

>YOUNG PEOPLE BAD!!!!!

Same shit as every generation since the dawn of time

[Anonymous No.14123948]

>>14123579
based

[Anonymous No.14123961]

>>14123886
There were communists prior to Marx's "scientific" socialism, and that's basically what we;re dealing with

[Anonymous No.14123973]

>>14123886
I think he meant communist in its vernacular , "lmao let's overthrow capitalism"-instagram-post meaning, not in its pure theoretical sense. Don't forget OP and a lot of people on here are probably americans.

>>14123292
Probably the first part of Symbolic Exchange and Death. Some later Baudrillard maybe. An article, "Glamour and the end of irony" by Ferguson is also worth a read

[Anonymous No.14123977]

>>14123494
it's a literal psyop, the first big scope CIA psy op ever too. We have tons of declassified documents talking about it too yet the masses are too dumb and are falling for the generational divisiveness psyop for a THIRD TIME. Just let them be brainwashed

>>14123613
death of the family is a cia psyop too, well, thought out by post ww2 cybernetists and funded by the cia

[Anonymous No.14123979]

Define ahistorical

[Anonymous No.14123983]

>>14123292
Go back to r/thedonald

[Anonymous No.14123998]

>>14123599
>>14123509
>>14123522
>>14123532
Yes, it's the boomers who all love trannies

[Anonymous No.14124003]

>>14123579
Cringe. Zoomers barely go to parties and drink less than previous generations. Their degeneracy is more profound

[Anonymous No.14124006]

>>14123579
>yes so you're probably some buddhist who practices asceticism right?
Not Buddhist but yeah

[Anonymous No.14124012]

>>14123688
All of those affect boomers more than anyone else.

[Anonymous No.14124032]

>>14123998
Tranny love wasn't born with the conception of the first zoomer. Their predecessors fostered an environment that embraced individuality and counterculture thought. The same people who encourage such ideals then reject them as they age. When confronted with this rejection, young people will obviously rebel. Thus we have decadence. It doesn't help that meme fields like psychology declare things like gender dysmorphia completely normal things that should be socially accepted.

[Anonymous No.14124041]

>>14123579
The problem is zoomers dont even do those things, theyre internet addled incels

[Anonymous No.14124060]

>>14124032
By that logic it's not the boomers fault either but the fault of the silent generation for corrupting them.

[Anonymous No.14124072]

>>14123886
>implying zoomers are conscious of their own paradoxical existence

[Anonymous No.14124086]

>>14123977
Please rec me some unclassified documents

[Anonymous No.14124110]

>>14123977
>masses are too dumb and are falling for the generational divisiveness
sorry I'm dumb what does the CIA have to gain by this

[Anonymous No.14124300]

>>14123292
Sounds fucking based

[Anonymous No.14124320]

>>14124012
this is a blatant falsehood

[Anonymous No.14124373]

"It's the kids!"
the oldest gen z's are literally like 22-23. The youngest are like 5. Are you serious.

[Anonymous No.14124394]

>>14123292
You're thinking of millenials, most zoomers are redpilled and hate sjws, they also read more books than millenials

[Anonymous No.14124424]

>>14124032
>>14124060
The real redpill is there is nothing traditional about the 1950s

It was full of vapid women browsing house appliance catalogs 24/7 and buying an appliance for every traiditional feminine duty, and men were fucking whores on the side and making endless money by just stepping out of the house.

[Anonymous No.14124430]

Are millenials a bigger dud generation than Gen X?

[Anonymous No.14124438]

>>14123292
unironically Submission, The Fourth Turning, and Ride the Tiger
are you over 18 OP?

[Anonymous No.14124564]

>>14124424
>It was full of vapid women browsing house appliance catalogs 24/7 and buying an appliance for every traiditional feminine duty, and men were fucking whores on the side and making endless money by just stepping out of the house.
Unironically based life.

[Anonymous No.14124574]

>>14124110

You're a zionist who wants to take over the world. Who's easier to control, a typical man from the 30s, or a typical man today?

[Anonymous No.14124797]

>>14123292
Everyone on /lit/ would be a materialistic hedonist if they could, prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.14124846]

>>14124430
We just haven't taken the reins yet. Boomers were layabouts for the '60s and '70s before coming to institutional power in the '80s.

[Anonymous No.14125047]

>>14123292
Read "A Generation of Sociopaths" by Bruce Gibney for the real scoop on boomers.

[Anonymous No.14125157]

>>14124320
Except it isn't boomer males are the highest risk of suicide

[Anonymous No.14125167]

>>14124797
Not me

[Anonymous No.14125197]

Younger generations are stupid by default. Older generations are repressive by default. These are the stakes in the game.

The younger, empowered by ignorance, presumes the older is either too lazy, too out of touch, or too ignorant to fulfill their desires, and so seeks out their passion in spite of the elder and, often, at the cost of the elder. The younger is blind and presumes his failings are the product of the elder while his successes are products only of himself.

The elder, having grown somewhat more wise in their years, sees the younger as he never saw himself - a dangerously stupid ape driven by sex and stimulus. Keeping the youth contained is first a reflex out of fear and gradually becomes a necessity out of spite. The elder is incredulous that the youth could be so ill-informed, so idiotic, so flippant at the riches and wealth he never had or indeed could ever dream of in his own misbegotten youth.

The elders grow too old to control the young; the young grow old enough to realize their failures belong to them, which kills their sense of innocence finally and completely and marks their aborning adulthood, and the next generation rises to spite the new establishment.

It is a cycle of resentment, arrogance, and an ever-awaiting descent into depression and reality. God help this generation above all, whose members prize self-satisfaction beyond any sort of cultural or even local community. Self-destruction is inevitable in the development of human beings, and this generation is woefully unprepared. The boomers can no longer be blamed, as they too are suffering the economic and social hardships wrought by the privileged of their own times. It's up to the pink-hairs now, God help us all.

[Anonymous No.14125287]

>>14124574
a typical man from the 30s

[Anonymous No.14125307]

>>14123292
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.14125315]

>>14123292
That sounds more like Millennials, Zoomers are all retarded because of the internet and don't take anything seriously.

[Anonymous No.14125323]

I thought zoomers were all goosestepping stormtroopers? Lol

[Anonymous No.14125354]

>>14125323
No,
>>14125315
Is right. They're just retards without strong political convictions, people say they're left because they don't care about gay marriage, others say they're right because they're pro free speech.

[Anonymous No.14125376]

>>14125315
Zoomers are just more extreme versions of millenials

[Anonymous No.14125453]

>>14125315
They dont take anything seriously because they're still 20, no generation is serious at that age. If you look at the trend from gen x to millennials you could extrapolate to zoomers by saying they're gong to be even more polarized.

[Anonymous No.14125478]

>>14123292
The fate of Empires by Sir John Glubb.

It's only 26 pages long and written over 100 years ago but it's probably the most succinct and insightful 26pgs I've ever read. You can find it easily enough online

[Anonymous No.14125499]

>>14123292
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14125500]

>>14125323
That's a meme pushed to justify even more left wing propaganda. They'll always be "someone" who justifies more dollaroos to be funnelled to some fund to push their own agenda.

[Anonymous No.14125536]

>>14123597
>but will be if they let their children grow up to be the same.
That's not how intergenerational culture works.

[Anonymous No.14126009]

>>14123546
Shut up tankie cunt

[Anonymous No.14126049]

>>14123292
>zoomers fault
>not the millenials who are the largest group in materialism, socialism, and "individualism"
>not the Boomers who fed Jewish lies to their kids
>not Gen X which just took everything their Boomer parents said to heart

yes, we zoomers who are intensely the most conservative and frugal gen since the greatest generation, are the problem. nigger

[Anonymous No.14126076]

>>14126049
>yes, we zoomers who are intensely the most conservative and frugal gen since the greatest generation
Levels of cope previously hitherto unwitnessed by man.

[Anonymous No.14126099]

>>14123292
Culture of Narcissism by Latsch

[Anonymous No.14126116]

>>14123292
Fuck off you boomer faggot, we read more than any generation. Our childhood novels are both the best and worst, and the books we read as teenagers/adults are Plato and Spengler, you can't control me dad.

[Anonymous No.14126136]

>>14123522
Whether it's their fault or not, the fact of the matter is, they're still retarded fags. Do you think I'm gonna give them a pass for that, just because it's "not their fault"?

[Anonymous No.14126145]

>It's the Zoomers fault!!!
Okay, remind me who raised the Zoomers again?

[Anonymous No.14126154]

>>14123532
>Blaming the boomers, and not the Greatest generation that fought a brutal war against purity and traditionalism, and then raised their children to be secular, liberal, materialistic, golem.

[Anonymous No.14126165]

>>14123532
this is a very lukeworm rhetoric and im getting tired of people spouting this everywhere ver batim

[Anonymous No.14126191]

Can someone explain the american's obsession with generations. As someone that never set foot on the states, sounds retarded to me.

[Anonymous No.14126512]

>>14123292
>>>/pol/

ALL
FUCKING
FIELDS

[Anonymous No.14126607]

>>14126165
its not just rhetorical, it is true. cope more.

[Anonymous No.14126630]

>>14125157
that is what I am saying, the negatives are effecting the younger generations, but the causes are due to the boomers

[Anonymous No.14126648]

>>14123546
Peak subversion. Way to prove OP right. We may not regain le 1776 freedoms, but even Xi jinpinism is preferable to boom zoom social democracy.

[Anonymous No.14126651]

>>14123292
Its boomers fault

[Anonymous No.14126658]

>>14123579
Zoomers don't go to parties. They have significantly fewer sex partners than boomer and genx degenerates.
They are at a later stage of decadence, where apathy and societal destructuration is so strong you don't even feel like going out to fuck some thot.

[Anonymous No.14126662]

>>14123494
Or every generation was right about that and every next generation actually was worse. If I look at the bugmen and thots with their phone addictions, they might have been right. I don't think we've ever been this pathetic as a people in history.

[Anonymous No.14126669]

>>14126145
It's clearly the fault of the generation that raised the generation that raised the zoomers

[Anonymous No.14126672]

>>14126658
It's because porn and video games ruin young men's brains

[Anonymous No.14126838]

>>14123292
>it's another "MUH DEGENERACY" thread
Stop it. Go out. Enjoy the nature. Idiots who occupied themselves with trivial and attention-grabbing shit have always existed, only the shit itself has changed and evolved with the times. 2000 years ago it was bread and circuses, nowdays it's coca cola and fortnight. Throughout the entirety of mankind there have always been the people who occupied all their time with trivial shit, the people who thought critically and were eager to learn, the stupid and cruel people. Just because knowledge nowdays is more accesible than ever doesn't change a thing, with every new generation come the many that don't give a shit about studying or learning or being better, and the less amount of people who genuinely care and are interested in knowledge. Cruel, hedonistic and actually degenarate people have also existed in every age, it's not some late creation of a global marxist /jewish scheme or capitalism. But what happens is that they adopt with every zeitgeist to further their degeneracy, capitalism gives them brand new trivial shit. Look at Nero 2000 years ago, and that mother who divorced her husband tries to turn her son into a girl now. Both are products of their cruel character that they were born with and probably bad upbringing. The fact that gays are allowed to marry in the US has nothing to do with their toxic personality itself, but the zeitgeist itself gave to that specific an alternative and fantastic new way to be cruel and stupid. And that's how it has always been.

>tfw Zoomers that are all materialist, unknowledgable, and occupy themselves with trivial shit that doesn't require thought have always existed and have always been the majority of humanity

[Anonymous No.14127128]

>>14126630
That's not what I'm saying retard

[Anonymous No.14127186]

>>14123644
fuck off Plato

[Anonymous No.14127201]

>>14123292
>implying boomers are any better

[Anonymous No.14127202]

>>14123292
>tfw zoomer born in the wrong generation

[Anonymous No.14127206]

>>14123574
>My boomer parents worked way harder for way less
Objectively wrong. Boomers got to live the biggest economic growth period in fucking history.

[Anonymous No.14127211]

>OP asks for literate written in collapsing civilizations

Gets faggot responses like this
>>14126512

According to this thread no civilization has ever fallen, and to imply such a thing is possible is madness.

/thread

[Anonymous No.14127219]

>>14126145
It's all Generation X's fault?

[Anonymous No.14127223]

>>14127219
Who raised gen X? It's everyone's fault and pointing fingers at each other wont fix anything.

[Anonymous No.14127228]

>>14127223
So it was the Silent Generation's fault?

[Anonymous No.14127236]

>>14127228
Stop trying to find a scapegoat and blame yourself, retard.

[Anonymous No.14127243]

REMINDER
Generational Theory is PSEUD BULLSHIT

GENERATIONS DO NOT EXIST. They are utterly ARBITRARY
The whole model is sustained by hack sociologists, wanting to crank out a quick study/paper for accreditation and gutter journalists who paraphrase those hacks for easy clickbait.
If you take any of this seriously then YOU ARE A RETARD

[Anonymous No.14127251]

>>14123522
No, of course not; they are still retarded, though and they should be blamed for choosing to be it

[Anonymous No.14127336]

>>14123546
Nope. The regarded mud people shitlibs had to import to even get as far towards legalising outright child murder as they e come don’t break even in terms of tax revenue to services consumed now, and it’s only going to get worse.

You sold your chance for American SocDem when you chose to inject shit into the nation’s veins. California realises this when they tried to pass a universal healthcare project—everyone else is going to run into the same problem.

Thanks for playing and losing, retard. Immigration was basically one big Right to Work scam and it completely BTFO’d you all.

[Anonymous No.14128042]

>>14123579
stop projecting coomer

[Anonymous No.14128700]

>>14127128
>"all of those affect boomers more than anyone else"
that is a lie
>"except it isn't boomer males are the highest risk of suicide"
right, it's millennials and zoomers most effected
>"that's not what I'm sating retard"
what the fuck are you trying to say you absolute nincompoop

[Anonymous No.14128733]

>>14128700
Stick a comma after isn't dipstick

[Anonymous No.14128772]

>>14128733
Wow if only the troglodyte who actually composed the first comment knew how punctuation worked he might be able to accurately communicate what the hell he was trying to say. The 15 - 24 and 25 - 34 age ranges have had the largest increase in suicide rates relative to the other age groups in the past 10 years

[Anonymous No.14128778]

>>14128772
What he was saying was pretty clear if you weren't massively retarded.

[Anonymous No.14128830]

>>14128772
>The 15 - 24 and 25 - 34 age ranges have had the largest increase in suicide rates relative to the other age groups in the past 10 years
Not true, boomers have the highest rates of suicide.

[Anonymous No.14128863]

>>14128778
wrong
>>14128830
again, the biggest INCREASE of suicide is in the younger age group

[Anonymous No.14128872]

>>14123929
>t. young person

[Anonymous No.14128875]

>>14128863
>again, the biggest INCREASE of suicide is in the younger age group
Nope that's in boomers too.

[Anonymous No.14128889]

>>14128863
>wrong
Not really. A child with basic reading comprehension could have parsed that.