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Why is Gnosticism so popular in modern culture?

>> No.14114486

Why do silent Gs exist? They're stupid.

>> No.14114490

>>14114481
How is it popular? Give some examples of prominent contemporary films, books, people, etc. that promote it.

>> No.14114489

>>14114486
real gs move in silence like lasagna

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>>14114486
>gahnahsticism

>> No.14114500

>>14114490
The Matrix
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Serial Experiments Lain / Texhnolyze / Haibane Renmei
Ghost in a Shell
Anything by Philip K. Dick

>> No.14114503

>>14114481
Ancient self-help.

>> No.14114658

>>14114481
I think it draws parallels to people's present plight and misery in the first world. The isolation of indebted, single living. The debauched vibe around us. It all seems to bring misery, and so the stoical and insightful meditations of gnostic thought seduces the common 4channer.

>> No.14114676

it's braindead simple to make connections with modern/future tech, class divides, information containerization, etc.

>> No.14114684

>>14114676
Tfw the monad uses docker

>> No.14114693

>>14114684
the monad uses nix or guix for true decentralization

>> No.14114703

>>14114481
I think the subversion of the 'official' Christian narrative and the presentation of Yahweh as a malicious demon fits well with certain modern views on religion that see it as tyrannical, irrational etc., hence the appeal of Gnosticist imagery.

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>>14114481
Comeback to Monad or perish.

>> No.14115121

>>14114481
Hahahahhaa

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14115440

inherent unconscious faith in the christian worldview, but disbelief in large parts of the biblical narrative. makes sense for generations brought up with atheism/satanism = kewl rhetoric, yet living in a world as >>14114658
>>14114676 describe.

me i just wanna figure out the exact origins and secrets of my nigga mithras, and the connection to the slaying of the bull/taurus and the rise of the 'aryan age'.

this shit makes a surprising amount of sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age

>> No.14115443

>>14114486
wait, it's silent?

>> No.14115445
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>>14114481

>> No.14115578

>>14114481
because it anything you want it to be. And quit popular with masons

>> No.14116200

Brazil, Matrix, Truman Show and a cartload of 80s and 90s movies and pop music

>> No.14116208

It should've never been stamped out in the first place.

>> No.14116226

it is re-emerging, because evil is anxiously tightening its grip on the world

but after the current world order, it will be redundant. God shall make everything new again.

>>14115445

Rei had a lot to teach you.

>> No.14116261

>>14114486
a phonological rule in english states that you cannot pronounce a "g" before a "n"
foreigners can usually do it without problems but a native speaker of english will have to add a pause or otherwise split them up in some way

>> No.14116272

>>14114500
>The Matrix
that's about brain in a vat scenario, nothing to do with gnosticism
>Serial Experiments Lain
something something transhumanist gods etc, nothing to do with gnosticism
>Anything by Philip K. Dick
do you even know what gnosticism is?

>> No.14116295

>>14116272
>Dick was a gnostic, have you ever read anything written by him?
>Valis, his Exegesis eg.?

>> No.14116324

where do I get started with gnosticism?
it seems intriguing, I like the focus on individual enlightenment and the utter separation of God from all things material

>> No.14116330

>>14116272
>that's about brain in a vat scenario, nothing to do with gnosticism
Except the Chosen One/Neo, prophecy and the nature of the film being a parable.

>> No.14116392

>>14116272
Based literal retard

>> No.14116398

It's all true and hylics are cope golems

>> No.14116419

>>14116272
I kinda understand the concept but still not exactly sure what gnosticism is about. Could you give me some examples, either in movies or literature.

>> No.14116432

>>14116261
So you’re saying a British agnostic would say
>I’m “ah-nostik”
Or are you just talking out of your ass? I pronounce Gnosticism exactly the same as Agnosticism without the A.

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>>14116419
here's the tl;dr: it's retarded and should be abandoned for platonism (which it is a corruption from)

>> No.14116485

>>14116459
Now that I know what it is I realised I'm too retarded to spot it anywhere.
Thanks, anon.

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>>14116459
>>14116485

>> No.14116506

>>14116487
What's the name of that book?

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>>14116487
eeh
just posting all of it

>> No.14116530

>>14116506
the noo-stick scriptures - BENTLEY lay[a]ton

>> No.14116535

>>14116226
Hi Rei. What is it that you think you can teach me?

>God shall make...
Uh, no. It’s dead. The value of currency has all the faith now, and people are not going to go backwards in time. Diaper fetishist?

>> No.14116536

>>14114481
It is not, nor has it ever been; you are mistaking paganism/demonism for Gnosticism/Christianity.

>> No.14116538

>>14116530
Thanks again.

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>>14116459
Bruh

Big dick shit coming through

>> No.14116551

I forgot to mention it only works at the beginning and end of a word:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_k_and_g
it's definitely the norm in standard British and American English, but maybe some dialects differ, idk

>> No.14116554

>>14116551
meant for >>14116432

>> No.14116575

There are books about this

Grimstad's The Modern Revival of Gnosticism will give you a thumbnail sketch even though she's really repeating what other secondary sources have said. If you look at her footnotes in the early chapters you can get to other books on the topic.

I don't know why I'm bothering to post this.

>> No.14116670

>>14114481
Secret knowledge puts a supernatural hierarchy on humanity. People want to feel they are better than others and have more power over them.

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>>14116538
you should read either of these instead

>> No.14116699

Is this a Gnofap thread?

>> No.14116777

>>14114486
>G stands for Gnon
>Gnon is an illusion

>> No.14116788

>>14116695
I'll see, was looking for something to read anyway.

>> No.14117570

>>14114481
It's fun. Basically just a modern day Rosicrucianism. I don't see any problem with people believing in it as long as they're capable of understanding that even the historical valentinians thought that the sophia shit was an allegory.

>> No.14117588

>>14114500
What the fuck are you on

>> No.14118549

Eliade's greatest student, sadly lost in his prime, has a book called tree of gnosis that deals with both ancient and contemporary manifestations.

>> No.14118665

>>14114490

mother!

>> No.14118836

>>14118549
What's his name?

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>>14118836
Just look up the title

>> No.14119202

>>14114481
Now that atheism is no longer edgy, I expect teenage Zoomers will gravitate to Gnosticism as the new edgyness. Zoomers really are fucked.

>> No.14119272

>>14116261
>a phonological rule in english states that you cannot pronounce a "g" before a "n"
>foreigners can usually do it without problems but a native speaker of english will have to add a pause or otherwise split them up in some way
>>14116551
>it's definitely the norm in standard British and American English, but maybe some dialects differ, idk
it is a rule that the gn at the start and end of words is usually silent and we do tend to have a syllable split on the gn in words like ignore but I don't think that prevents us from pronouncing it correctly, at least I don't seem to have an issue saying the german words gnom or gneis, your wiki link also provides an interesting exception in the acronym GNU which stallman insists is pronounced 'guh-nu' because brits (and not americans) tend to pronounce gnu like the other germanic languages because of the 'the gnu song' song
english doesn't have a sound for [ɲ] (closest approximation is /nj/) which is probably what you mean on reflection, most english speakers butcher words like El Niño, cognac, vignette, etc, and I have heard people turn gnocchi into 'nocky' but anecdotally as a brit I've never pronounced the g in that one silently oddly enough

>> No.14119274

>>14114489
based weezy

>> No.14119289

>>14119202
agnostic atheism is where it's at, it's such a foreign concept and so uncontroversial that it's almost edgy

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>>14114486
>I'm not a gnoblin
>I'm not a gnelf
>I'm a gnostic!

>> No.14119352

>>14119289
Here's my hot Moldbug take on the matter: Richard Dawkins-style atheism is effectively a Unitarian Christian heresy, making a god out of Progress to spite what it sees as the regressive Christian God. And now you have Gnosticism, one of the oldest Christian heresies there is.

So edgyness doesn't really change here.

>> No.14119958

>>14117588
literally all of those have listed gnosticism as an inspiration

>> No.14120127

>>14114486
To preserve e etymology of the word

>> No.14120132

>>14114489
underrated

>> No.14120144

>>14119958
the invisibles, too

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>>14114481

doctrines created problems that it couldn't solve without leaning too much on outside work (hello, plato) then idiots sealed it with insufficient scriptures in the finished, thinking everyone in a preliterate world would just take the priests at face value. no direct universal catechism or exegesis just within the book itself. only 27 books and most are short letters.

shit, go out and find laymen who've even heard of some of the church fathers let alone read their works TODAY, in a 90%+ literate western christian world with digital instant re-usable printing presses. not even passing judgement one way or another one any of their doctrine. but you see the problem.

so when they burned all the shit and unbrained everyone who disagreed with the Institutional Truth the shit the gnostics were working on got buried figuratively under dogma and literally out in the desert. then when some people translated the works they found out that hey, these fuckers were onto something and so were the artists

it's as much of a comment on the human condition as the prolefeed christian message regardless if parts of the NT are thinly veiled polemics against it and regardless of the incoherency of the NHC or the sometimes obsequious visionary content of those who work on the themes

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>>14116459
platonism is gay and views the demiurge as neutral

OP gnosticism is becoming "more popular" because it was literally heresy for many centuries. The Catholic church genocided Cathars and Bogomils to prevent any of their works from getting out. It wasn't until the Nag Hammadi codex were discovered (coincidentally at the end of ww2) that gnosticism began to gain traction again. Not only that, through the freedom of information on the internet, you have so much access to the Apocryphya's, old christian history, gnostic scriptures, and other gnostic prophetic work-its quite hard to avoid.

IMO I view the internet as a meat grinder for truth, and gnosticism will only get more popular, as it is the truth. We live in a fake and gay simulation governed by a demonic jewish blood god (yahweh, anu, yaldabaoth, etc.) in the physical form of saturn, projecting time keeping us stuck within its hypercube. The Cathars knew this, and that Yhwh's chosen were some of the chief archons (as they are today) and were genocided by a corrupted demiurgic co-opting of christianity (Catholicism) that reaffirmed the jewish demiurge ywhw. Pray to christ, or his energy, bring the kingdom of heaven to earth. Stop fapping.

>>14119352
Based moldbug poster

>> No.14121291

>>14120742
>platonism views the demiurge as neutral
No?