/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.14101979]

Monthly Reading For November: ?

Charts & Monthly Reading Downloads
https://mega.nz/#F!A7YCmQBb!YYcZ9sZKbsUdSFlYX9wSaQ

Archives, Recommendations, Release Dates, Downloads, and much else.
https://pastelink.net/sffglit

Previous Threads
>>14087922
>>14075734
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>>14029265

[Anonymous No.14102028]

Sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.14102034]

First for self publishing.

[Anonymous No.14102043]

>>14101979
That statue is /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.14102147]

Post books with a good twist.

[Anonymous No.14102153]

Started the black company. It's disjointed and very little is put into perspective. Writing is clunky, choppy, and awkward and characters are not interesting. Normal YA fantasy is also edgier. I feel like this book is the definition of old=good, new=bad.

[Anonymous No.14102160]

>>14102153
You're not allowed to have an opinion unless you read all of it.

[Anonymous No.14102258]

>>14102034
Is this a good route to take if you want to put your own story out there?

[Anonymous No.14102267]

Sanderson is not so bad

[Anonymous No.14102479]

>>14102258
I don't know. Most self pubs start on royal road -> amazon unlimited -> picked up by traditional publishing

[Anonymous No.14102506]

I'm still waiting for ONE (1) good recommendation from you guys on political intrigue in medieval times with focus on warfare.

[Anonymous No.14102515]

>>14102506
Try something inspired by arthurian legends. There's always some political ploys and backstabbing along with warfare in those.

[Anonymous No.14102578]

>>14102267
the cosmere is the book equivalent of the mcu

[Anonymous No.14102632]

>>14102578
Star wars and lotrs are utter trash. They has the worst fanbase in the world.

[Anonymous No.14102665]

>>14102515
Bernard Cromwell or Stephen Lawhead?

[Anonymous No.14102752]

>>14102034
>papyrus

So this is a troll list?

[Anonymous No.14102756]

>>14102028
I think Sanderson should get into screenwriting for anime, he'd be good at it.

[Anonymous No.14102821]

>>14102752
>papyrus
Are you high or something, anon?

[Anonymous No.14102831]

>>14102752
It's anon's personal recommendation list. Don't take it to be a joint corroboration within /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.14102936]

>>14102831
I don't think any of the charts are anything aside from personal rec lists.

[Anonymous No.14103126]

Malazan Book of the Fallen was a masterpiece and I won't tolerate slander. I'm reading through the cosmere right now and its pretty good, not gritty enough though.

[Anonymous No.14103132]

>>14101979
>tolkien elements

[Anonymous No.14103187]

/sffg/ I'm getting tired of writing this story. My actual prose has improved, but every word of it feels like generic garbage. The passion I've been nursing for four years has evaporated.

[Anonymous No.14103238]

why fantasy get clumped in with science fiction... and most importantly can /lit/ make separate threads for em. i have read some fantasy and had a good time but i think i am through with this , dont want to even hear about it...

[Anonymous No.14103295]

>>14103187
Professionals don't write from passion. They write because it pays the bills. It's a job. It doesn't matter if you feel like doing it. It has to be done.

[Anonymous No.14103300]

>>14103238
Do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.14103312]

Holy shit, I just read the greatest love story ever told in the Flat Earth series:
>Chuz, the Prince of Madness (the absolute madlad) kills the Prince of Darkness' most beloved waifu
>He then tries to adopt the baby as her "uncle" but in actual fact he's really just trying to woo her romantically (yes, as a fucking baby)
>then they later go onto become lovers and their love will go on forever
Friendship ended with Azhrarn, now Chuz is my husbando and the bestest boi.

[Anonymous No.14103318]

>>14103238
its the same genre because they are basically the same themes but one is a magical medieval and the other is unimaginable scientific advancement. both defined by our current technological timeline but both divorced at the same time. i also a retard who doesnt know what im talking about

[Anonymous No.14103332]

>>14103187
>>14103295
Half truth
There are passion projects and there are paychecks
Passion projects are the side-bitch which you pamper and the paychecks are the pimped bitches to pay the bills

[Anonymous No.14103443]

>>14103312
You piqued my interest. Tell me about this series, how is it?

[Anonymous No.14103452]

>can't think of a name for a character
>load up fantasynamegenerators.com
>problem solved

[Anonymous No.14103471]

>>14103312
Based Tanith Lee poster

[Anonymous No.14103509]

>>14103452
>book is set between 2000 and 5,000,000 years in the future
>main characters are called Frank, Michael, Garry, and Louise

[Anonymous No.14103526]

>>14103509
What, do you want "BOOP DE BOP ZOOP ZIP KACHOO," ";osnjf gbdjsgfdnsgjfbg sfn gdjc," "*animal noises*," and "AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA" to be the names of your protagonists instead? In any case, people use 2000-year-old-names in the present day.

[Anonymous No.14103530]

>>14103443
If Vance's Dying Earth and the magical sur/realism in Susanna Clarke's Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell got ramped up to twenty, this would probably be it. It looks and feels properly magical and there's a lot more taboo stuff in it (with lots of gay, rape and incest). The prose is damned good (flowing more smoothly than Vance's, it feels) and the pacing, in general is really good (other than the fourth book). Two of the books are essentially anthology aka short stories that flow into one another. The novel/las in the series also feel a bit like anthologies because there are so many characters and stories and characters develop and change over them. It's very different from the other books that I've read, even the other dino books.

[Anonymous No.14103546]

>>14103509
>story set thousands of years ago
>characters are called Helen and Jason

[Anonymous No.14103573]

>>14103187
So no rat king with flavor altering powers?

[Anonymous No.14103753]

>>14102034
>""""self-published""""
>contains detailed art on the cover

[Anonymous No.14103594]

>>14101979
OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.14103624]

My favorite part of November is getting on the nanowrimo forums and reading the utter garbage fantasy stories that get written over there.

[Anonymous No.14103802]

>>14103753
decent cover art can be had for as little as 50 bucks per comission.

[Anonymous No.14103655]

>>14103624
Isn't there some conspiracy nanowrimo now? They ask people to write conspiracies they can later deny and say was fake, when the truth actually comes out?

[Anonymous No.14103850]

>>14102578
Fuck sakes stop posting this creature

[Anonymous No.14103946]

>>14103530
I don't know about Dying Earth, but I like Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, so I'll put this in my backlog. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.14103977]

>>14103946
I think that Susanna Clarke must have definitely been inspired by a combination of the Tales of Flat Earth by Tanith Lee and Kingdoms of Elfin.

One of the stories in the Tales of Flat Earth (the part where they raise Simmurad) is very similar to the "Tom Brightwind, or How the Fairy Bridge was Built at Thoresby" story in Ladies of Grace Adieu/how the Raven King got stuff built.

[Anonymous No.14104007]

are we not choosing a book?

[Anonymous No.14104008]

>>14102267
Stormlight is okay if you just want some honest to goodness honor-wanking. Kaladin just needs to stop being a living depression

[Anonymous No.14104016]

>>14104007
>>14101979
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6061634-off-on-a-comet
I pick this one

Off on a Comet (French: Hector Servadac) is an 1877 science fiction novel by Jules Verne.

The story starts with a comet that touches the Earth in its flight and collects a few small chunks of it. Some forty people of various nations and ages are condemned to a two-year-long journey on the comet. They form a mini-society and coping with the hostile environment of the comet (mostly the cold). The size of the 'comet' is about 2300 kilometers in diameter - far larger than any comet or asteroid that actually exists." (Quote from wikipedia.org)

[Anonymous No.14104211]

>>14104016
Lots of straight talk in this one

[Anonymous No.14104218]

>>14104211

Based

[Anonymous No.14104291]

>>14104008
hopefully the last 2 books pick up now that szeth finally joined their party

[Anonymous No.14104367]

>>14104008
The Kaladin finds a chance of happiness then gets shit on badly while every is still smiling is getting stale

[Anonymous No.14105106]

We're on page 8, the general is dead.

[Anonymous No.14105172]

>>14105106
migrate to /tg/

[Anonymous No.14105773]

Seriously I want the name of the next book. How do you normally proceed?

>>14104016
Is this the choice?

[Anonymous No.14105882]

>>14105773
The monthly reading anon probably dead by accident, or finally an hero'd.

>Is this the choice?
No. That was someone nominating a book to a closed poll.

[Anonymous No.14105907]

Any character driven mil-sf?

I like science fiction, but I'm reading less and less of it because most of it is the same thing over and over. It's like shooter games. Pew pew, space-woosh, pew pew.

[Anonymous No.14106074]

Is there a point at which Dying Earth stories get satisfying character arcs? I just finished T'sais' story and the ending was so very shitty that I don't really even want to read any more of them. The writing's interesting but the character arcs are just awful.

[Anonymous No.14106132]

>>14105907
Seconding—it’s harder and harder to find non garbage milscifi.

Read 40k, deathshead, terms of enlistment et al, aftershocks, a host of lesser known ones of varying quality.

[Anonymous No.14106186]

>>14102034
>▶
Honestly I like these sort of serializations when they stay on RoyalRoad or whatever, but I just can't take them seriously when they get published.

[Anonymous No.14106225]

you guys are fags, but i still like you

[Anonymous No.14106271]

>>14104008
I only really liked the plot about Kaladin and his gang of slaves working their way up from slavery and chasms to freedom and wealth. Everything else that happened in parallel or afterwards was boring as shit.

Once they got to that secret city thing I just stopped giving any fucks.

[Anonymous No.14106372]

>>14105773
How it went last time:
>>/lit/thread/S13921499#p13925941

[Anonymous No.14106401]

Redpill me on Circe. Is it good?

[Anonymous No.14106666]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxR-oKkwJLI

books with this feel?

[Anonymous No.14106775]

>>14105907
>>14106132
Undying Mercenaries by Bv Larson
Agent Cormac by Neal Asher

[Anonymous No.14106797]

>>14106225
Wait... It was true that we have /a/utists coming here? There is a sffg manga?

[Anonymous No.14106946]

>>14106797
It's from the anime and manga, Miss Bernard Said / Bernard Jou Iwaku

[Anonymous No.14106958]

>>14106946
Machida Sawako a.k.a. Miss Bernard is a lazy girl who wants to be well-read but doesn't actually read. The manga recounts conversations between her and her friends about the Bible; The Tale of the Heike; Guns, Germs, and Steel; The Door into Summer; The Great Passage, and more masterpieces that she has not read.


So, yes, it is /lit/.

[Anonymous No.14106966]

>>14106958
A manga/anime about someone pretending to read something they never read?
Kek

[Anonymous No.14106974]

>>14106966
>>14106958

I'm actually surprised Pynchon got mentioned in the anime. No idea how well known he or Gravity's Rainbow is in Japan.

[Anonymous No.14106996]

>>14106974
I'm sure they lurked in /lit/. Too many meme books I'm seeing listed.

[Anonymous No.14107048]

bare minimum desu

[Anonymous No.14107060]

Most scifi books are just copies of the same 10 stories. So if I read those then I have automatically read thousands of books. Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.14107086]

>>14106958
>>14106966
>>14106974
>>14106996
They probably got the idea for the show from lurking on 4chan. Since I joined /lit/ 9 years ago, they were just pretending like they actually read shit.

[Anonymous No.14107100]

Most posts are just copies are of the same 10 memes. So if I post those then I have automatically become thousands of posters. 詰め.

[Anonymous No.14107102]

>>14107086
You do realize that 2chan and 2ch exist, right?

>4chan
Dear poster, this is 4channel.

[Anonymous No.14107119]

>>14107102
Hiro just split 4chen to 4chennel because pol & b (mostly pol) was fucking up his ability to get ads.
Now pol is invading lit again, and he isn't fixing it.I wonder what he will do when they make people blacklist us from ads again.

[Anonymous No.14107200]

>Writer seems overly focused on tearing down strong female characters and it is hard to like a MC that is a serial rapist. Most strong female characters in the is book get raped by the MC to show how strong and invincible he is. Some get raped then murdered, or raped and then the MC talks about how they would have an enjoyable memory of it.

Kek

[Anonymous No.14107209]

>>14107119
Nothing will change.

[Anonymous No.14107232]

>>14107200
Not a surprise you'd like that considering your taste.

[Anonymous No.14107253]

>>14107200
Reviews like this are better than any endorsement

[Anonymous No.14107280]

>>14107253
For having most people to avoid ever looking at it.

[Anonymous No.14107296]

>>14107200
Congrats on finding and enjoying the most incel lit possible.

[Anonymous No.14107310]

>>14107280
What are you? A normie or something? GRI is our gold standard. If you can't take it, go back to rebbit and your safe space.

[Anonymous No.14107320]

>>14107280
Only interesting people are important for word of mouth. Nobody cares what stuck-up screechers think, beyond maybe for repurposing their screechings for locating interesting stories.

[Anonymous No.14107327]

>>14107310
It's been almost entirely you posting about it for years.

[Anonymous No.14107357]

>>14107327
>o-only you post about gri
>no one else likes it

[Anonymous No.14107366]

>>14107357
That's a rather weak response. Let's end it here.

[Anonymous No.14107375]

>>14107366
Are you looking for bouts or something? I'm here to discuss books, not help you feel alive by exchanging banter.

[Anonymous No.14107420]

>>14107310
What are some gri approved books? If you have a seal it has to have stamped something, correct?

[Anonymous No.14107517]

>>14107327
Absolutely pathetic. GRI is /sffg/-core.

[Anonymous No.14107526]

>>14107420
Bakker is the king of GRI

[Anonymous No.14107762]

Reminder to report all christian and philosophy off topic threads that are pushing us to page 6 in less than an hour.

[Anonymous No.14107825]

>>14107762
If /sffg/ can't manage a single post per hour, then it deserves its fate.

[Anonymous No.14107990]

>>14103573
I'm going to keep hammering at it because I need closure and I now have the momentum to finish it, but I don't trust anything good will come of it. Not unless I can either find a way to remove the limitations my medications are placing on me, or get lucky and have it happen naturally as a random fluctuation in my neurochemistry

>>14107119
>pol is invading lit again
pol never left. You can't cure a tumor just by cutting it away, and the 4channel split didn't even do that. It just drew imaginary lines in the sand that nobody even bothered to notice

[Anonymous No.14108106]

[Anonymous No.14108117]

>>14101979
If anyone cares Tamer 6 is up on mobilism

[Anonymous No.14108137]

>>14104211
It's funny because I own the book in French and this is censored in my edition. You must know how anal the French are about the Jewish question, 80% of the people who ever speak on television on any topic are Jews, all "political debates", intellectuals, etc., are always conducted by Jews (on both sides of arguments). The publishing houses are trying to rewrite history by censoring "anti-Semitic" in historical texts, Jules Verne got totally expunged, and entire passages of Victor Hugo are gone. Voltaire is intact in the Pleiade (200$ books) but never republished elsewhere. And of course, actual anti-Semitic propagandists like Céline, Drumont, Rebatet, etc., are never republished, if only for historical preservation purposes.

You just reminded me to throw it away. My edition of Hector Servadace that is. God I can't wait for the world order that came out of WWII to fucking end already.

[Anonymous No.14108158]

>>14106666
>tfw I get quads but no recommendations

[Anonymous No.14108293]

>>14108137
i'm legitimately curious anon. Have you ever actually met a jewish person in your life? Like, knew one and talked to them for more than five minutes?

[Anonymous No.14108308]

Looking through stuff and saw this. It amused me. Here are the bullet points. Will predictions of 2100 made in 2000 seem as quaint? Not that really anyone posting here will ever find out.

WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS
By John Elfreh Watkins, Jr.
Published in The Ladies' Home Journal, December 1900

1. Five hundred Million People In America.
2. The American will be Taller by from one to two inches.
3. There will be No C, X, or Q in our every-day alphabet.
4. Hot and Cold Air from Spigots.
5. No Mosquitoes nor Flies.
6. Ready-Cooked Meals will be Bought.
7. No Foods will be Exposed.
8. Coal will Not be Used for Heating or Cooking.
9. There will be No Street Cars in Our Large Cities
10. Photographs will be Telegraphed from any distance
11. Trains One Hundred and Fifty Miles an Hour.
12. Automobiles will be Cheaper than Horses
13. Everybody will Walk Ten Miles
14. To England in Two Days
15. There will be Air-Ships
16. Aerial War-Ships and Forts on Wheels
17. There will be No Wild Animals
18. Man will See Around the World.
19. Telephones Around the World.
20. Grand Opera will be Telephoned to private homes
21. A university education will be free to every man and woman.
22. Store Purchases by Tube
23. Vegetables Grown by Electricity.
24. Oranges will Grow in Philadelphia
25. Strawberries as Large as Apples
26. Peas as Large as Beets
27. Black, Blue, and Green Roses.
28. Few Drugs will be Swallowed

Full 5 pages of it can be found here:
https://pastebin.com/Zic4ZdKX

[Anonymous No.14108317]

>>14108308
>21. A university education will be free to every man and woman.
Fucking rip.

[Anonymous No.14108333]

>>14108137
Was the character entirely written out? I recall him being a turbo gigajew who won't, for instance, lend the company his scale so they can compute the gravity. You'd need to do a lot of editing before you could hide his nature.

[Anonymous No.14108342]

>>14108317
it's nonsensical how stupid our present is, and the only reason I'm glad we haven't had a revolution is because I know for a fact it would turn to some random genocide in five seconds flat

[Anonymous No.14108394]

>>14108342
Different anon, but nah it's not that bad.

>>14108317
Various countries do this, even for those who are foreign students.

[Anonymous No.14108429]

>>14108394
speaking as an american, we've had children packed like sardines into cages and tent cities for over a year and a half, people are legitimately dying because they can't afford the ridiculous prices for their medications or surgeries, the vast majority of the current generation are now buried in decades worth of debt because you need a college degree just to work at mcdonalds, we have more than one mass/spree shooting on a daily basis and 2/3 of the country don't give a shit about fixing these problems

[Anonymous No.14108450]

>>14108429
wtf i love america now???

[Anonymous No.14108490]

>>14108429
Don't worry, it'll ALL be over soon. ™

[Anonymous No.14108526]

I know this doesn't fit but I have to vent
>The institution - Stephen king
I've read a fair amount of SK novels and his politics usually don't bleed in so bad but holy shit did this guy have some serious Trump derangement syndrome in this book. Also wasn't that great. 3/5.

[Anonymous No.14108543]

>>14108526
/pol/ be gone

[Anonymous No.14108691]

>>14108543
/pol/ is everywhere. Head for the attic.

[Anonymous No.14108747]

Is there any good /sffg/ serial fiction coming out these days?

Does anyone in the world make a living or even decent side income that way?

[Anonymous No.14108760]

>>14108747
By serial you mean, what, web serials? If so the answer is: nope.

Just read real books. What difference does it make to you whether or not they're serialized?

[Anonymous No.14108761]

>>14108747
If by "serial fiction", you mean magazines, then yes.
Technically web novels could be considered serial fiction.
In Japan, light novels are often serialized a chapter at a time.
There are also a few sites putting sff stuff frequently.

No, not really.

[Anonymous No.14108784]

>>14108760
I'm curious about the format, mostly. And about the best way to potentially make money writing what I want to write.

>>14108761
I guess I mean webnovels. Stuff like Worm, though I haven't read much of it.

[Anonymous No.14108800]

>>14108784
There are only two people in the history of the planet who have made a living writing web serials.

The real, true, best way to make a living writing is to sell your book to a major publisher, or self-publish erotica on amazon.

Or write web serials and hope you'll be human #3 in history to make a living at it. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while collecting your lottery check while getting your dick sucked by Scarlett Johanssen.

It's not TECHNICALLY impossible, but it's not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.14108815]

>>14108784
Don't listen to this killjoy
>>14108800

https://www.patreon.com/pirateaba
THIS TOO COULD BE YOU!
$9,250 per month

[Anonymous No.14108870]

https://www.patreon.com/nkjemisin
>being a full time writer is harder than you think


https://www.patreon.com/seananmcguire
>~$11k per short story written

https://www.patreon.com/stantlitore
>$1,024/month

Random more likely SFF examples:
https://www.patreon.com/adribbleofink
https://www.patreon.com/hollyheisey
https://www.patreon.com/VikingZX
https://www.patreon.com/JDDresner

[Anonymous No.14108876]

>>14102153
>>14102160
Alright I finished Black Company. I was wrong. It was fantastic. It took me a couple chapters to get into the style of writing and start caring about the characters. Goblin and One-eye were pretty funny, Darling was super cute, Elmo was just a solid guy, and Croaker was a great narrator (I hope he remains the MC in the next book). Speaking of the next book wikipedia shows it was published in 2018 but a couple others were published in the 80s so should I start with shadows linger or port of shadows? Also I'm not totally clear on how Lady is evil. I get that she was the Dominator's women and she just wants to keep him sleeping to rule herself, but I don't recall much about how her or the Dominator were actually evil.

[Anonymous No.14108908]

>>14108870
>using jesmin and mcguire as examples of how profitable writing is

you realize they're one in a million celebrities who aren't representative of the industry as a whole, right?

Most will never get the money they need to survive, and even those of us who take profitable jobs and write on our own time will still never get the recognition we deserve. In the end, it's all a load of nothing

[Anonymous No.14108924]

>>14108908
You're ignoring the
>Random more likely SFF examples:

[Anonymous No.14108925]

>>14108908
>never get the recognition we deserve

[Anonymous No.14108980]

Picked this up just because I liked the premise of a fantasy buddy-heist story. Thoroughly unimpressed; it's one of the most dry, unexciting books I've ever read. Aside from one heavily telegraphed twist at the very end there's really nothing unexpected in the plot, every event just logically proceeds to what was clearly established one or two scenes previously. It reads less like a story and more like an expanded encyclopedia entry. Plus a good half of the book is given up to an unrelated Prostitute Moses plotline that just feels like a considerably less interesting version of one of the urban Discworld stories.

That being said I was still more interested reading this than I was for many better-written books just because I wanted to see that premise I liked put in motion. Made me realized that good elevator pitch goes a long way towards actually getting invested in a story. I'm going to try looking up more stories based just on that and hope they turn out better.

[Anonymous No.14108982]

>>14108980
That's because Michael J. Sullivan is fucking awful. Christ, he's worse than Mark Lawrence.

If you're going to read fantasy, at least read writers with a basic grasp of narrative, character, and grammar.

Sullivan is an embarrassment to the genre.

[Anonymous No.14108995]

>>14108982
I've never heard of him before so I guess that's my fault. I got really weirded out towards the middle when I realized I was reading a story without any plot twists. It reminded me of that joke in one of the Hitchhikers books about an alien race that only write novels consisting of literal descriptions of mundane events, which all end precisely at the 100,000 word mark regardless of what's happening in the story.

[Anonymous No.14109002]

>>14108995
Yeah, I mean, those guys are basically con artists.

Try Scott Lynch.

[Anonymous No.14109126]

>>14108870
I'd be surprised if writers can make any money at all, given how easy it is to head out over to mobilism and download whatever book you want in existence because Apprentice Alf cracked every single format in existence. Sometimes, you can even pirate the whole book before it even releases.

[Anonymous No.14109142]

Guys, I'm re-reading some of my writing from just the past week and I'm cringing too hard. I don't think I can keep doing this. This shit is literally nightmarishly bad

[Anonymous No.14109145]

>>14108980
sullivan is trash, I'm sorry bro

[Anonymous No.14109207]

In the end I couldn't do it /sffg/. After three weeks, all I have to show for it is embarrassment, shame and failure.

It was all a joke after all. I was never meant to write this shit. The fateful encounter I had fueling my perseverance was just a random accident. I shouldn't have let it get to my head and convince me that any of this was worth committing to writing. I feel disgusted just imagining that I ever thought this was good

[Anonymous No.14109222]

>>14109207
Does this you're going to stop posting about it?

[Anonymous No.14109230]

>>14109222
maybe. more likely I'm going to bitch and moan for a few days before getting tired of it and just doing it in silence

[Anonymous No.14109262]

>>14109126
>Sometimes, you can even pirate the whole book before it even releases.
>tfw born in a time where I could be disappointed with Uncrowned before the fanboys ate it up

[Anonymous No.14109275]

>>14108308
>5. No Mosquitoes nor Flies.
Not gonna happen. This would fuck the eco-system too much. Maybe they would get rid of mosquitos in the subtropics.

[Anonymous No.14109286]

>>14108342
Just move to Europe. Not sure why Americans always want to make their system like that of everyone else.

Why can't there be diversity in political systems? Why can there not be a big state where you don't have to pay for other people's education and welfare?

[Anonymous No.14109295]

>>14109142
That's normal. Just keep rewriting it until it doesn't make you cringe anymore.

[Anonymous No.14109317]

>>14109295
I don't think I can do that anon. It just hurts too much to see it the way it is, and to think to myself that I actually believed something like this was publishable. It feels like my whole life goal was just some sick delusion of a self-aggrandizing autist. I'm just retard anon. What am I expecting to do? Become the next Rowling? At the rate I'm going, I'll probably be the next Chris-Chan. The best thing I can do is minimize my humiliation by not trying. That's it. Tomorrow, I'm going to text my friends in the writing group I formed and call that shit off. Nobody's taking it seriously anyway. It won't be a huge loss

[Anonymous No.14109349]

>>14109317
>my whole life goal was just some sick delusion of a self-aggrandizing autist
Probably. If you thought you would be good instantly without having to work for it, then yeah you're a retarded autist.

>What am I expecting to do? Become the next Rowling?
Just write something worth telling. Something you care about. Something that reflects what you have learned about life or haven't quite figured out about it yet. About your fears and hopes and failures and dreams.

That said, all first drafts are shit. You are supposed to read your writing again later and rewrite it a few times. Or maybe get rid of that part altogether if it is unsalvageable. Everyone does that.

[Anonymous No.14109480]

Sorry I'm late, it's TIME TO VOTE.

Let the Right One In,
by John Ajvide Lindquist. ~500 pages
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/943402.Let_the_Right_One_In

Early Riser,
by Jasper Fforde. ~400 pages
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23498264-early-riser

Phantastes,
by George MacDonald. ~200 pages
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/174948.Phantastes

The City & the City,
by China Miéville. ~300 pages
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4703581-the-city-the-city

Quarantine,
by Greg Egan. ~275 pages
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/156775.Quarantine

Poll: https://www.strawpoll.me/18890110

[Anonymous No.14109497]

>>14104007
>>14105773
>>14105882
Poll's finally up, my shame is eternal.

[Anonymous No.14109562]

>>14109317
The first step on the path to being a good writer is reaching the level where you hate your own shit. It's called developing taste and a critical eye.

If you ever stop feeling like your writing is garbage then you're doing something wrong. The best you should ever be able to say about your own work is that it's okay.

[Anonymous No.14109566]

>>14109562
I feel like it's okay to be happy with your work, as long as you still work to improve.

"I'm happy being where I am right now, right now" is not the same as "I'm happy being where I am right now, forever."

[Anonymous No.14109624]

If scifi technology is a speculation on what humanity as a whole would do with access to certain capabilities, then is magic a speculation on what individuals would do with access to certain capabilities? Or are there other roles that these things fill in stories?

[Anonymous No.14109629]

>>14109624
Scifi tends to be more speculation on what would happen with access to certain capabilities, fantasy tends to be more adventure stories.

[Anonymous No.14109694]

>>14108876

The Dominator was a genocidal tyrant. Read the original trilogy in order of publishing. Don't bother with other books later on.

[Anonymous No.14109732]

Are there any good books or book series in the vein of Cowboy Bebop or Firefly? Basically, a smallish group of ne'er-do-wells trying to make ends meet and keep their spaceship running while staying one step ahead of the law.

[Anonymous No.14109920]

>>14109732
Tales of the Ketty Jay kind of fits the bill even though it is airships instead of spaceships. Solid books but nothing mindblowing.

[Anonymous No.14109963]

>>14109732
I've found no scifi examples other than what >>14109920 said but if you're alright with fantasy
>The Death of the Necromancer by Martha Wells
>The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (Gentleman Bastards)
Warning:
>Tales of Ketty Jay qualtity increases after the first book and continues rising through the subsequent books but drops by about 15% by the final book
>Gentleman Bastards - the quality decreases by like 10% every book after the second book
There's nothing as affecting as Bebop though.

[Anonymous No.14110131]

>>14109480
>>14109497
thank you

[Anonymous No.14110208]

Is this Wolfe's magnum opus?

[Anonymous No.14110211]

The Book of the New Sun is prettay good. Started reading Shadow yesterday and I'm already on chapter 8.

[Anonymous No.14110214]

>>14110208
I didn't even see your post before posting this >>14110211
Really makes me think.

[Anonymous No.14110261]

>tfw don't want to read Flowers for Algernon because it will make me feel bad

[Anonymous No.14110335]

>>14108293

Yes he tried to convince me to take more african refugees. Very gay

[Anonymous No.14110468]

>>14109207
I don't understand. Are you saying that you just started writing and 3 weeks into a new hobby you're still trash at it so you're giving it up?
You wouldn't expect to be able to play masterpieces (or even good pieces) on a piano if you only have 3 weeks practice. You wouldn't expect to be able to run a marathon if you only have 3 weeks practice. You wouldn't expect to bench 500+ pounds if you only have 3 weeks practice.
So why are you expecting to be anything other than absolute dogshit at writing with only 3 weeks practice? Even to naturals and prodigies, they started /somewhere/.
If you're truly giving up after only 3 weeks it means you didn't have any real drive or desire to do it in the first place, so maybe you're better off quitting now.

[Anonymous No.14110519]

Some interesting picks, another banger from /our guy/ based Greene Daniel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2UVetu_14

[Anonymous No.14110590]

>>14109480
>Sorry I'm late
I thought you an hero'd, or nearly died again and got hospitalized.

>>14109963
>>14109920
Ketty Jay was shit written by a shit author. Don't bother with that shit.
>the first book is bad bro, but the qualtity increases after the first book and continues rising
If the first book is shit, then drop the series. Don't get caught up in that "it gets better" meme.

[Anonymous No.14110596]

>>14110519
Can you stop spamming and advertising that youtube channel?

[Anonymous No.14110627]

>>14110596
>hating on a youtube channel that literally has the same opinions as 90% of the posters here
i bet youre the bugmen that only ever posts about his shitty webnovels arent you?

[Anonymous No.14110865]

>>14110519
>>14110627
>forbes
opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.14111300]

>>14110627
You are daniel greene himself trying to get more views. Which is advertising. You keep posting this off topic shit every thread, which is spam.
This isn't the youtube board, go there to spam your shit.

[Anonymous No.14111353]

>>14111300
>You are daniel green himself trying to get more views.
I know you won't believe me, but I'm really not. I saw one of his videos on a reddit thread and knew instantly that it would trigger people here so decided to post them to commence said triggering.

its no different than people posting their same shitty rec charts every thread or linking to their webnovels

also
>actually citing 'rules' on 4chan that don't involve child porn
holy FUCK get a load of this cucklord.

[Anonymous No.14111360]

Software by Rudy Rucker just came through the post. Putting aside that I don't remember ordering it, am I good to read it without having read any of his other books?

[Anonymous No.14111494]

>>14110468
I didn't start three weeks ago, three weeks ago was just when I picked a project back up after months of inactivity.

at any rate, I think i just needed to vent. yes, its cringeworthy, but I just need to power through and make it to the end

[Anonymous No.14111571]

>>14111360
I actually read that within the past month. It is the first in a (I believe loosely-connected) tetrad but I personally did not find interest to continue on to Book 2.
Software can be read as a stand-alone.

[Anonymous No.14111614]

>>14111353
>rebbit user and proud of it
>post off topic shit and thinks he is "triggering people when they tell him to fuck off
>everything is good to go on 4chan except child porn
>child porn is worse thing every
>pol can go anywhere and incite mass shootings
>watch me ramble and strawman this response because I don't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.14111622]

>>14110519
>forbes
Kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14111633]

>>14111614
>living in his head rentfree

[Anonymous No.14111863]

>>14111633
>so deep in his head that he has to post youtube videos in the general

[Anonymous No.14111933]

>>14108980
>Sullivan
Big yikes

[Anonymous No.14111942]

>Lindon defeats female secret artist
>Could spare her life in return for 'favours'
>Punches a flaming hole through her chest instead
Unbased

[Anonymous No.14111954]

Opinions on The Expanse?

[Anonymous No.14111963]

>>14111494
Just fuck off already. Nobody cared before, nobody cares now, and nobody ever will care.

[Anonymous No.14111969]

>>14111633
Jesus Christ, Daniel, neck yourself already.

[Anonymous No.14112038]

>>14111942
Dragons aren’t people, so it isn’t murder. Fuck dragons and fuck dragonscalelickers.

[Anonymous No.14112081]

>>14112038
Scalies need death.

[Anonymous No.14112112]

Thoughts on 'Children of Time'? Is it a good book for someone who has never read sci-fi in the past?

[Anonymous No.14112120]

Fuck I hate when a novel just spams random ass names and places at the beginning and expect me to care or remember anything. Like Guy Gavriel Kay stuff. How do people tolerate this?

[Anonymous No.14112133]

>>14108815
>$9,250 per month
Jesus. Although this person is putting out two chapters a week (that seem to average 10-15k each), plus occasional side stories. I may not be into the lit RPG stuff, but that's some fucking work ethic.

[Anonymous No.14112143]

>>14112038
>>14112081
Seethe and cope. Dragons ARE cute and Lindon initiated the conflict despite Ezkel attempting to be diplomatic.
FUCK Turtles Black dragons are worse than dogs ok

[Anonymous No.14112187]

>>14112133
The story is about a shit pacifist who gets other people killed over goblins, and is obsessed over chess. The second character could have been good but she turns into a feminist who is triggered over not being able to fight and pushes the people who saved her literal life away, thus helping kill them.
It packed with filler and the most rambling and verbose use of the English language I ever saw to fill in word count.

If you could find a pack of pacifist anger feminist goblin lovers who blame their problems on other people and constantly get people killed to support your patreon, then you too would be set.

[Anonymous No.14112214]

>>14112187
When you say "goblin lover" my mind goes a certain way and I don't think I have to elaborate on my question.

More seriously though I want to write about the adventures of the World's Greatest Thief, in a sword-and-sorcery/weird fantasy setting.

[Anonymous No.14112229]

>>14112143
You're just a gold dragon lover. You probably wanna be enslaved and used as pleasure livestock. Filthy beast lover.
Clydesdale sized turtles are the best!

[Anonymous No.14112242]

>>14112229
> You probably wanna be enslaved and used as pleasure livestock
Haha n-no who'd want that

[Anonymous No.14112257]

>>14112214
>"goblin lover"
There is no smut, sadly, at least in the volume one Imwas memed into reading. If she fucked the lizard man the book could probably have been passable. It's a "slice of life" novel about a human pacifist girl getting people killed so the goblin pests can try to kill her.

[Anonymous No.14112278]

>>14112112
it's amazing

[Anonymous No.14112300]

>Uncrowned could have spent more time building up the growing dragon faction tension
>instead we got what we got

[Anonymous No.14112314]

>>14112300
What did we get? haven't read that far yet.

[Anonymous No.14112321]

>>14110590
>I thought you an hero'd, or nearly died again and got hospitalized.
I would never just go and kms without properly ending monthly reading first.

[Anonymous No.14112327]

>>14110208
That's not soldier of arete

[Anonymous No.14112329]

>>14112314
Keep reading and you will find out, silly.

[Anonymous No.14112340]

>>14112314
One of the weaker books of the series unfortunately. It should have been two books instead of one. The first book called Akura and the second book called Uncrowned.

[Anonymous No.14112342]

>>14112143
orthos is the only based character in that entire series

[Anonymous No.14112355]

>>14112340
>tfw Uncrowned was the most positively-received book among his beta readers and fans as a whole
The sub is still absolute fucking cancer which sub isn't, really because
>critique = bad + downvoted!
>blind praise = good + upvoted!!

[Anonymous No.14112362]

>>14112355
Yeah, Reddit is awful for constructive criticism. Nothing but bootlicking is incentivized.

[Anonymous No.14112376]

>r/Iteration110Cradle/comments/drbh45/the_ending_ruined_uncrowned/

[Anonymous No.14112391]

>>14112376
The cliffhanger wasn’t the problem with uncrowned. The problem was we got introduced to tons of new characters without any proper buildup or characterization of them. It moved too fast and tried to fit too much into one book.

[Anonymous No.14112406]

>>14112391
I agree that it wasn't the primary issue although I believe aspects of the ending were definitely questionable, e.g.,
>surprise 1v1s although Lindon + Yerin are the only ones who get manipulated due to being the first pairing
>Abidan and the Presence macguffin out of seemingly nowhere (sure, it was foreshadowed earlier with Makiel) shoehorned/rushed in
>the retarded ass-end segment with a fucking MONARCH surprise throat-punching a running-away Lindon instead of using any of his Authority to simply stop Lindon from moving reeked of Saturday morning cartoonism
There are lots of characters in xianxia so I can give it a pass for throwing tons of new people especially with the nature of the tournament and the expansion of the world at large however yes it should not have been one fucking book.

[Anonymous No.14112415]

>>14112406
The 1v1 was obviously going to happen. I knew it was coming as soon as they mentioned tournament.

[Anonymous No.14112418]

>>14112376
>that guy who thinks the book can't be critiqued because the series isn't completed

[Anonymous No.14112466]

>>14112415
That's not what I meant. Fighting someone who isn't your intended opponent was only a surprise to Yerin and Lindon because they were the first pair. Now all the other participants know it was a ruse

[Anonymous No.14112573]

>>14112376
Don't think I want to read the rest of the series now. Yerrin can suck my balls.

[Anonymous No.14112744]

>>14112573
Fuck you. Yerin is a cute sword artist. plus Lindon can have a threesome with her and her blood clone

[Anonymous No.14112746]

Any fantasy recommendations for someone who's never read fantasy?

[Anonymous No.14112762]

>>14112746
Chronicles of Amber

[Anonymous No.14112770]

>>14112746
Sabriel

[Anonymous No.14112779]

>>14112746
eragon
hunger games
malazan book of the fallen
harry potter
black company
twilight (fantasy horror)
lord of the rings (meh)
animorphs

[Anonymous No.14112798]

>>14112746
Read Bakker

[Anonymous No.14112886]

>>14112779
>animorphs
A timeless classic

[Anonymous No.14112896]

>>14112779
>eragon
>twilight
How can such a singularity of faggotry recommend such a solid tale like Animorphs?

[Anonymous No.14113015]

>>14112779
>eragon
>hunger games
malazan book of the fallen
>harry potter
black company
>twilight (fantasy horror)
lord of the rings (meh)
>animorphs

top fucking lel.

[Anonymous No.14113117]

>>14112133
It goes a lot faster with no editing and having an audience that couldn't care less about quality.

[Anonymous No.14113141]

No one cares about anyone's opinion. Don't post any opinions.

[Anonymous No.14113165]

How do I get into the warhammer 40k lore? I think it's very aesthetic but I've never played any game, though I heard there are a ton of books.

[Anonymous No.14113208]

>>14113165
I was the same without any knowledge. Read the lore from the rule book which was pretty good then read the first horus heresy book and then eisenhorn omnibus. If you want space marine stuff probably read a few horus heresy which is 30k then the 40k marine books. Eisenhorn is an inquisitor and the books are more of an adventure/mystery with space marines making a few appearances. There are a few other series related to eisenhorn but I haven't read them. /tg/ has multiple warhammer generals so maybe check out the op links or ask in one of them about book recs because there is apparently a lot of trash and only a few solid books

[Anonymous No.14113480]

>>14110590
99% of books get worse after the first one.

[Anonymous No.14113540]

quick opinions about the rest of this series? I absolutely devoured the New Sun, i was on the edge of my seat the entire time with it and I felt engaged with the world in a way I hadn't felt about a book in ages. but I'm reading Uruth now and it just seems a little off to me, I'm not sure if I should read something else and come back to this world later or whatever. Are Long Sun and the three after that worth it?

[Anonymous No.14113618]

>>14113540
Long Sun is not as gripping, not as soaring as New Sun. If you can get past your resentment for its being allzumenschliches after the transcendence of the original series you can like it. It is richer than other books you'll find, but blander than New Sun. If you've tasted your drop of honeydew then much else, even other Wolfe, will seem stale.

[Anonymous No.14113639]

>>14113540
Urth is the weirdest one

>Long Sun and the three after
My favourite books of all time
I just can't overstate how good Wolfe writes, I love his "gimmicks" which he always does, like:
BotNS being from the past perspective of a person with absolute memory, after he has reflected over what happened
Other books being written in the style of a diary, with the restrictions of that (maybe stretching it a bit, unrealistically)

It's all very, clever
You just need to not get upset about certain parts being a bit anticlimactic (if you survived new sun, you'll survive this),
and Wolfe being pedantic as always(not really, because nothing really is in the books without a final reason or payoff)

But yeah. Long Sun is wordier than New Sun, and tells the story in a more common way
You kind of need to stay sharp, there is loads and loads of conversations, where it's unclear who is speaking.
Wolfe did a great job by giving characters distinct speech patterns, so you are supposed to keep track of that yourself
I thought that was a really fun "gimmick" too, which worked well.
But I've read a lot of complaints of it being confusing, which it really isn't, it just keeps you a bit more mentally active

[Anonymous No.14113653]

Why is so much time and effort being put into this niche general and topic?

>sci-fi

Ha. My general is certainly not as niche as this, and our paste bin is a lot nicer

[Anonymous No.14113670]

>>14112376
>everyone tripping over themselves to fawn over Will and protect him from the big bad bullies
yikes

[Anonymous No.14113706]

>>14110208
The Solar Cycle as a whole, yes, with New Sun and Short Sun being the highlights.

[Anonymous No.14113710]

>>14113540
I suggest trying to read everything (New Sun, Urth, Long Sun, Short Sun) in sequence, they are beautiful as a whole.
But not marathon them, they are different books, but Wolfe's style is,,, you don't want to eat a bag of sweet all at once.

Like give it a few months, or read something by a different author in between. Like the small piece of ginger your supposed to have while eating sushi

[Anonymous No.14113743]

>>14113618
>>14113710
Thanks Anons, I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.14113782]

>>14113639
>Urth is the weirdest one
Yeah I think that's what I'm struggling with, I don't necessarily find his narrative style or techniques challenging or confusing, but like my man Severian is having magical zero gravity laser-gun fights with mutated space pirates on a spaceship of infinite size that travels through time in between fucking a fat slampig? I'm going to shut up and just keep reading I guess

[Anonymous No.14113785]

>>14113540
>picture for ants

[Anonymous No.14113841]

>>14113653
Link your general

[Anonymous No.14113937]

Does the solar cycle go BotNS -> Urth of the New Sun -> Book of the Long Sun -> Book of the Short Sun?

[Anonymous No.14114014]

https://onezero.medium.com/nike-and-boeing-are-paying-sci-fi-writers-to-predict-their-futures-fdc4b6165fa4

Nike and Boeing Are Paying Sci-Fi Writers to Predict Their Futures
Welcome to the Sci-Fi industrial complex

And many other companies. Time to entirely sell out.

[Anonymous No.14114313]

>>14113117
>an audience that couldn't care less about quality.
How do I get me one of those?

[Anonymous No.14114361]

>>14113141
Based

[Anonymous No.14114407]

>>14114361
That's an opinion.

[Anonymous No.14114419]

/sffg/, I've hit some major writer's block. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to bounce back from this, or if I've already lost my momentum and just need to wait for my next burst of motivation. Either way, it feels kind of shitty. Any advice

>inb4 nobody cares

>>14113653
honestly, all our time is wasted on autistic bullshit. GRI-this, Xianxia-that, litrpg-who? It gets old after a while

[Anonymous No.14114513]

>>14113937
Yeah
Even if Long Sun/Short Sun could be read without New Sun, it adds a lot of mileage to read them in order

[Anonymous No.14114523]

>>14114014
>lifelong dick fan

[Anonymous No.14114528]

Am I doomed for suffering if I write short stories? It seems that even all the online publishing sites are geared around long, serial series.

[Anonymous No.14114531]

Dear Diary,
Today I reached my writing goal by blogging on /sffg/. Sure, it may not be helping be with my story, but what really makes is that I completed my daily quota of reading and writing simply by reading the posts in this thread and writing more posts.

[Anonymous No.14114533]

>>14114419
keep writing

[Anonymous No.14114535]

>>14114528
The magazines don't pay much and probably aren't going to accept your work, so yeah, probably. That's really the only market.

[Anonymous No.14114541]

>>14114535
and most certainly, 99.9% chance, aren't going to be included in an originals only anthology.

[Anonymous No.14114545]

>>14114523
It's not fair bros. The glow-in-the-dark-cia-niggers got him too soon. It wasn't his time yet.

[Anonymous No.14114546]

>>14114535
My instinct is then to write short stories but then have them "connected" in some arbitrary way, but I imagine that's not going to appeal to people that read webnovels.

[Anonymous No.14114557]

>>14114546
The actual answer is to be trying everything and anything all the time constantly to see if it'll be enough to scrape by with no luxuries and no time for anything else if you want to write full time, because becoming a full time writer is like some random high school athlete joining a major professional league. It probably isn't going to happen.

[Anonymous No.14114568]

>>14112355
It's the first half a tournament arc, don't know what people expected, those are rarely that good. Barely even that actually since the 1v1's only just started, more like setup for a tournament arc. The group stuff and the other challenges leading up could have been a bit better but eh, still liked it better than Skysworn, that's the weakest one so far for me.

[Anonymous No.14114575]

>>14114557
I don't even want to write full time I just want people other than my mother to read my stories.

[Anonymous No.14114595]

>>14114575
Oh, ok, then just post them on a lot of highly trafficked sites indiscriminately.

[Anonymous No.14114818]

>>14114568
>don't know what people expected
A completed book.

[Anonymous No.14114835]

>>14114818
Then you should have asked me before it came out and I'd have told you not to read it until the next one comes out, would be the same result as what you're asking for.

[Anonymous No.14114848]

>>14114835
>knowing beforehand it was only going to be half a book
Please let me know where you read your leaks.

[Anonymous No.14114883]

>>14114848
Too many big names to cover all the fights in one book and they haven't even arrived there at the end of the last one, I'm not even 100% sure it won't get stretched to another two, but I doubt it. But next time you can just hold off for like 10 hours after it comes out and check here if the tournament ended.

[Anonymous No.14115147]

>Tournament Arc
Terrible and almost never works out. The one in uncrowned is no exception.
First half with the challenges was completely useless and with zero stakes involved.
It would have been ok if they complete it in this book or mix up the entire premise but at the current development it was kinda underwhelming.

[Anonymous No.14115192]

How long does it usually take Will to release the next book

[Anonymous No.14115204]

>>14115192
He has to release a book every 6 months to stay relevant.

[Anonymous No.14115208]

>>14115204
That'll do I suppose

[Anonymous No.14115212]

>>14115208
We're not getting Wintersteel in ~5 months, if that's what you think. He's finishing Elder Empire now.

[Anonymous No.14115233]

>>14114313 asking life's most important questions.

[Anonymous No.14115262]

>>14115212
He's been "finishing" it since before Underlord came out, don't think he's focusing away from Cradle any time soon, think he's just slowly doing Elder Empire on the side even though that one has an actual progress thing on his blog.

[Anonymous No.14115275]

>>14115262
There are multiple instances of him stating that his primary 100% focus is on finishing EE now before he writes another Cradle book, even talked about working on it during his last blog post or two.

[Anonymous No.14115284]

>>14113540
Urth gets a lot better as you get through it. Long Sun is good, but it felt to me like a very long prologue for short sun, which was incredible.

I got a cuckbook and now I can read books without having to wait weeks for them to ship. I want some guilty pleasure fantasy that I would never have waited weeks for. I've already gone through the guides and nothings really grabbed my attention. What should I go for? I'd absolutely love a Red Knight that didn't suck.

[Anonymous No.14115334]

>>14106401
It is quite good. For ALMOST all the book it manages to stay faithful to the Odyssey. I'm personally not fond of the ending, it fitting in the context of ancient Greek myth but it's contrary to the spirit of the ending of the Odyssey.

[Anonymous No.14115344]

>>14115275
He better finish it soon then. And I did actually read EE as well, going to forget everything by the time it continues, it's been a while.

[Anonymous No.14115355]

The Goodreads awards are up and it's the usual story, I'm obviously disconnected from modern SFF as I have not read a single book nominated. I'll probably vote for Black Leopard Red Wolf anyway because I know that it's GRI approved. Have you read any of the books?

Fantasy: https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-fantasy-books-2019
Sci-Fi: https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-science-fiction-books-2019
YA: https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-young-adult-fantasy-books-2019

[Anonymous No.14115382]

>>14115355
Wow what an awful fucking list

[Anonymous No.14115398]

>>14115382
What would you have nominated?

[Anonymous No.14115407]

>>14115398
library at mount char

[Anonymous No.14115408]

>>14115344
I don't know his writing process for EE since it's a 2booklmao every time, other than that he's stated it is difficult to write them. He has to release a book every 6mo to stay relevant on Amazon lest he be buried under the slew of other self-published titles so going off a rough guesstimate with absolutely no backing, I'd assume the last two EE books will be the next set, then we'll get Wintersteel around this time next year.

[Anonymous No.14115413]

>>14115407
>published 4 years ago
I hope you are the Mount Char poster and not a serious replier.

[Anonymous No.14115444]

>>14115355
>Kingdom of Copper
Great
>The Winter of the Witch
Mediocre/meh
>A Memory Called Empire
Good but not great.

[Anonymous No.14115464]

>>14115444 (checked)
>The Winter of the Witch
How did you like the two first books in the series?

[Anonymous No.14115466]

>>14115464
First one was good, second one was good and the last one was meh, mostly because it repeated ideas from the second book in the first 4/5 and the last 1/5 was basically some other mini story. It's a common problem with books that they deteriorate over the course of the series.

[Anonymous No.14115520]

>>14114014
This will show those hard scifi autists that the scifi came before the technology.
They always autisticly going on about how the science is "unbelievable" and "breaks immersion".
I can't wait to see them seethe and foam at the mouth when a non stem person wins, and their story that follows physics that "don't work like that" is plastered happily all over the internet. Imagine them getting an aneurysm.

[Anonymous No.14115531]

>>14103526
I think there might be a middle ground, lol

[Anonymous No.14115569]

>>14115520
>the scifi came before the technology.
Pure Chance. If there are a million predictions about the future some are bound to be proven right.
This isn't evidence that highly speculative fiction, which no relationship to reality, has any predictive validity.

[Anonymous No.14115618]

Daily reminder to read BotNS instead of whatever shit you're currently reading

[Anonymous No.14115677]

>>14115569
I'm talking about people actively working towards making something they read in a book or saw in a movie a reality.

[Anonymous No.14115728]

whats a comfy series

[Anonymous No.14115751]

>>14115728
Howl's Moving Castle

[Anonymous No.14115786]

>>14115618
Dad. Stop.

[Anonymous No.14115787]

>>14115677
That's the most retarded Idea I have heard today, congratulations.

[Anonymous No.14115797]

>>14102632
lotr fans are fine, the normies that liked watching it when they were 10 are the issue

[Anonymous No.14115922]

>>14115787
It shows how much you know of scifi or technology as a whole, zoomer. Go fast somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.14116175]

>>14115569
>predictive validity
>tfw the only other person who will understand what this means

[Anonymous No.14116454]

>>14108876
She's a realist dictator, he's a fantasy one. That's the easiest way to explain it.

[Anonymous No.14116700]

>>14115355
holy moly I love female writers!!! i can't decide who to vote for!!!

[Anonymous No.14116863]

>>14109480
There wasn't ever any chance for anything to win except for "Let the Right One In" and here's why:
It's "GRI approved" and the posts in the thread have riled that sort up.
It's also in 3 or more of chartanon's charts, who is also GRI, so he wasn't going to let that pass by. Overall, the winner now is likely to be in one of his charts. Coincidence? It's less likely than you think, considering how hard he already pushes his taste.

Jan: A Scanner Darkly - Author on chart
Feb: The Fifth Head of Cerberus - Modern Fantasy Recs v2
Mar: The Black Company - sffg chart / Modern Fantasy Recs v2
Apr: We - Miss?
May: There Are Doors - Author on chart multiple times
June: Lord of Light - SFFG Wall of Text / SFFG Suggestion
July: The Library at Mount Char - SFFG Wall of Text
Aug: Babel-17/Empire Star - Miss?
Sept: Stories of Your Life and Others - ?
Oct: The Quantum Thief - Modern Fantasy Recs v2
Nov: Let The Right One In - SFFG Suggestion / Fantasy Guide / Modern Fantasy Recs v2


Jan: The World Set Free - Miss?
Feb: The Shadow over Innsmouth - Miss?
Mar: Childhoods End - Miss?
Apr: Flow My Tears, the Policeman - Author on chart
May: Solaris - Miss?
June/July: The Stars - Miss?
Aug: Roadside Picnic - SFFG Suggestion / Modern Fantasy Recs v2
Sept: Titus Groan - sffg chart
Oct: Sword in the Storm - Author on chart
Nov: A Night in the Lonesome October - Author on chart
Dec: The Dying Earth - SFFG Suggestion / sffg

[Anonymous No.14116877]

>>14115922
Do you really not understand how dumb the idea is?
Tell an engineer to build the badly thought out 5 minute idea of an author who's understanding of engineering is that it hurts if you hit your fingers with a hammer and he will laugh in the face.

Engineers make bad sci-fi authors because only autists care about well thought out technologies and most people eat shit up with is braindead but "cool".

[Anonymous No.14116882]

>>14108876
Lady a shit

[Anonymous No.14116886]

>>14108691
>>14108543
Jesus you guys are like /pol/ when it comes to paranoia. " It's the fucking jews!" and " It's fucking /pol/" are both self masterbating annoying statements.

[Anonymous No.14116891]

>>14116882
how is that possible if Soulcatcher is a cute

[Anonymous No.14116893]

>>14116877
>engineers
>not autistic
wat

[Anonymous No.14116918]

I read the first book in the xenogenesis series..I'm a brainlet so I can't give a worthwhile critique but I thought there was a noticeable dip in quality when the other humans were awakened for the training exercise.

[Anonymous No.14116923]

>>14116918
>written by a black woman
>twice discarded

[Anonymous No.14116927]

>>14116886
There's a demonstrable difference.

[Anonymous No.14116961]

>>14116923
>discarded
Care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.14117111]

This question is secretly about tabletop RPGs but I'll ask it here because you guys probably know better:

Are there any fantasy settings started before 1974 in which a highly trained fighter could be evenly matched with the average wizard? In my experience the wizard is usually either an unrivaled superhuman being, or a petty trickster who can deceive and manipulate but never overpower in a fair fight. The first type could sometimes be defeated by a Hercules-type demigod who lifts literal mountains, or an average joe protagonist with destiny, piety or cleverness on his side.
But it's never a "with a Strength score of 18 a melee sword attack deals 2d10+8 damage, which is pretty much even to a first level fireball". Is that sort of thing something RPGs invented or is there precedent for this?

[Anonymous No.14117119]

>>14103452
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.14117154]

>>14117111
I was going to say Conan, but I'm not sure now. He definitely deals with wizards a lot, but Conan is a pretty intelligent and sneaky guy himself so he usually uses a combination of brains and brawn to defeat them.

[Anonymous No.14117239]

>>14116454
>>14116882
I'm at the part shortly after the siege of the black castle in book 2 and the Lady still seems pretty decent. I get that she mindfucked some wizards to serve her, but as a ruler I don't sense the typical evilness. I don't find the desire to rule inherently evil. She doesn't seem like she would raze cities and force everyone to be slaves. I guess that might change the more I read
>>14116891
Is this a canon drawing or fanart?

[Anonymous No.14117255]

>>14117239
Just fanart I think

[Anonymous No.14117414]

>>14115355

I thought "The Priory of the Orange Tree" was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.14117437]

Cradle is getting progressively worse.

[Anonymous No.14117463]

>>14116891
Fixed

[Anonymous No.14117475]

>>14117255
noice

[Anonymous No.14117535]

>>14115407
That book sucked donkey's balls.

[Anonymous No.14117596]

>>14115334
What if I haven't read Odyssey?

[Anonymous No.14117605]

>>14115444
We actually have people here who read not one but multiple modern series by random authors? Wtf.

[Anonymous No.14117636]

>>14117437
>tfw /sffg/ is the only place on the internet that can host a negative opinion toward Cradle without hivemind slaves voting and hiding it from existence

[Anonymous No.14117675]

>>14117437
Ghost water and under lord were good. Just needs to get back to that. Tried to do too much in one book.

[Anonymous No.14117720]

Anything sci-fi with occult elements?

[Anonymous No.14117746]

>>14117437
underlord was better than ghostwater, but uncrowned was the worst by far, I'm also starting to get sick of Lindon's milquetoast attitude

[Anonymous No.14117751]

>>14117746
Uncrowned was better than Soulsmith. Soulsmith was all over the place

[Anonymous No.14117787]

>So here's my review of Uncrowned. I've held off because there's been some really toxic comments on here *cough* you know who you are *cough*
why is every thread on the sub absolute cancer

[Anonymous No.14117794]

>>14117675
>>14117746
I thought Underlord was worse than Ghostwater. Haven't even reached Uncrowned yet.

[Anonymous No.14117798]

>>14117787
>reddit
I wonder

[Anonymous No.14117893]

Any fantasy books with a protagonist similar to Michael Corleone from the Godfather part 1 and 2? They're my favorite movies of all time and I'd like to read about a character, similar to Michael. The most important thing is that the character is cold and calculating. Bonus points if it's a tragedy with the protagonist ending alone due to his own actions.

[Anonymous No.14117894]

>>14117746
>starting to get sick of Lindon's milquetoast attitude
Not reading uncrowned until the next book is out so I don't know how much time has passed but if it's only been a year or something it's at least understandable. The guy was basically treated like a leper and had to show deference to even children or he could be killed and no one would care. Plus he's constantly punching up against stronger people so it would take a while to break that mindset

[Anonymous No.14117900]

>>14117794
>read Underlord
>hasn't touched Uncrowned
Why not? Unless you've lurked enough to know to stay away

[Anonymous No.14117914]

>>14117894
>Plus he's constantly punching up against stronger people
He's weening off of it, considering one of the best memorable moments of Underlord was him not giving a shit that Kiro was an Underlord.
However FUCK the entirety of his early interactions involving Pride in Uncrowned

[Anonymous No.14118056]

>>14117900
Well I've still got 3 or so chapters left to read in Underlord.

[Anonymous No.14118130]

[Anonymous No.14118166]

>>14118130
>lol libtards are such snowflakes get triggered by everything!
>

[Anonymous No.14118168]

>>14118130
wat

[Anonymous No.14118244]

>>14118130
I love it when insane people do reviews.

[Anonymous No.14118256]

>>14118244
it's not even a review it's in the "ask users a question about this book" section.

[Anonymous No.14118278]

>>14118256
Even better. It's like meeting a crazy guy on the bus but you don't have to worry about being stabbed.

[Anonymous No.14118287]

>>14118166
N

[Anonymous No.14118304]

>>14118056
The best part.
Don't read Uncrowned afterward.

[Anonymous No.14118580]

This is bait, right?

[Anonymous No.14118628]

It's funny how there are always several times more voters for the monthly reading than seem to involved

[Anonymous No.14118641]

>>14116863
>being this paranoid
I was going to make a post a few months back how a lot of the things I recommended years ago and were shat on for being trash, is now being nominated.

[Anonymous No.14118709]

>>14118580
It's that dino hater's list. You can put anything in a pic and pronounce it Official SFFG

[Anonymous No.14118753]

>>14118709
It isn't possible to have anything official

[Anonymous No.14118810]

>>14118709
The chart was books that sffg talks about / promotes that you should avoid
>what is reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.14118820]

Where is the new slave?
Hop to it. We at page nine.

[Anonymous No.14118833]

>>14118820
In a bit. I was waiting to give maximum time for the voting, though unclear if the actual results will be from when he looks at it. I recently came back to my computer. I didn't want to bother doing it from the phone.

[Anonymous No.14118852]

>>14109207
Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on yourself and just keep trying anon

[Anonymous No.14118946]

NEW THREAD
>>14118941
NEW THREAD

Decided to split up the links again because it was probably too many clicks for people to get the sffg charts.
The previous link will continue to work and the full charts link will be in pastelink.

Monthly Reading Results as of making the new thread:
Let the Right One In: 10
Phantastes: 6
The City & the City: 6
Quarantine: 4
Early Riser: 3
Total: 29

[Anonymous No.14118955]

>>14115355
No King novel won?
Or is he in horror?