hey dudes

[Anonymous No.14100327]

what is the correct way of spreading, nurturing, and practicing marxist thought/theory in 2019?
>inb4 not at all
reactionary pigs need not apply thanks :)

[Anonymous No.14100339]

Why do you hate whites?

[Anonymous No.14100340]

>>14100327
>How do I annoy more people by preaching about my useless politics everywhere I go?
Not literature related. Fuck off. We have a politics board >>>/pol/
>inb4 "i-i dont like the opinions of the people who use the politics board therefore i have a right to shit up the literature board"
No, you don't. You can't take a sloppy shit in the kitchen sink just because someone who has a different color stool used the same toilet as you.

[Anonymous No.14100348]

I think it involves cutting off your dick and deferring to black people. Focusing on class in 2019 is crypto bigotry

[Anonymous No.14100351]

Not at all.

[Anonymous No.14100354]

Really, REALLY weak bait. Try harder next time. Saged and reported.

[Anonymous No.14100355]

>>14100327
>marxist
lmao, brainlet trannies fuck off

[Anonymous No.14100360]

>>14100327
be a centrist

[Anonymous No.14100380]

>>14100327
killing yourself is a good start

[Anonymous No.14100388]

Just wait for the materialist dialectic to make life bad enough to inspire revolution. It'll happen.

[Anonymous No.14100391]

>>14100339
white people are so thin skinned it's insane

op, if at all serious, dont bother with reactionaries at all, and rather try to get well meaning liberals/bernie bros/sjws to think past their current political beliefs. I think state and revolution by lenin is a good starting point for classic theory, but capitalist realism by mark fisher is a pretty easy read that utilizes a lot of pop culture, which can be good for normies to relate to quicker, so i usually start people with that. most well meaning left people dislike capitalism so that is a much easier introduction, and then slowly get them interested in communist thought. angela davis and fanon are really good places to go for anyone you know who is interested in social justice politics specifically. join the psl or a similar org, do community outreach, make theory as accessible as possible, educate yourself constantly, dispel anticommunist junk, etc.

[Anonymous No.14100396]

The right thing to do would be to explore Marxist political theory as an extension of normative ethics by the means of the Kantian categorical imperative, and to go deep into the hypothetical implementation of Marxism into the contemporary world, taking into account the economic state of the world, given as much possible detail into the transition between the current climate and the proposed endpoint.

[Anonymous No.14100397]

>>14100391
>>14100396
You sound like you come from Twitter. Go back and stay there. Sage

[Anonymous No.14100400]

>>14100391
White people are literally the least thin skinned of all races. Name another race that bends over backwards to be accepting to other races. It is literally just white people who do that. Go see how Chinese people react if you insult them in China

[Anonymous No.14100405]

>>14100327
Oh sweetie. Every choice she makes... they're just a bunch of expiring trends thrown together in a clashing manner. What do they say, trendy is the last step before tacky? Well she's like Wile e Coyote: already 10 steps over the tacky cliff; she just hasn't noticed.

[Anonymous No.14100412]

>>14100405
Don't talk about my wife like that

[Anonymous No.14100414]

>tfw this off-topic thread is going to be ignored by mods and get 300 replies while the on-topic threads struggle to get 10 replies
I should probably stop saging at this point. Saging will only extend the amount of time this thread will take to reach bump limit. I have some tiny amount of faith. One more bump.

[Anonymous No.14100419]

>>14100327
Why are you so lazy that you think marxist ideas are good for society?

[Anonymous No.14100425]

>>14100397
>wahhhh opinion i dont understand/like, SAGE!
>>14100400
white people make up shit like white genocide, go on and on about muh white separatism because they cant handle that other people exist, and post replies like >>14100339 >>14100348 because they are desperately afraid of losing hegemony.
>>14100396
i agree but think this might be difficult for a lot of people because it already assumes the listener believes/agrees with the marxist view of history

[Anonymous No.14100430]

>>14100412

[Anonymous No.14100437]

>>14100425
Once again, go to any nonwhite country and insult the majority ethnicity there, you are going to get worse results than you do in a white country. You know this on some level, you just hold white people to a different standard.

[Anonymous No.14100440]

>>14100419
If laziness is wrong then when why do you support capitalism, which has an entire class of people who do no work, yet grow rich, off their hedge funds? They are born with wealth, their parents give it to a financial manager, and they do nothing while collectimg ROE.

[Anonymous No.14100449]

i am a marxist but i believe the proles deserve it

[Anonymous No.14100457]

>>14100397
I'm actually a dumb autistic weeb from /a/

[Anonymous No.14100504]

>>14100437
based

[Anonymous No.14100511]

>>14100425
>because they cant handle that other people exist
that's not true and you know it, this little piece right here, though subtle, invalidates your entire stance simply due to the self righteous ignorance of the statement.

[Anonymous No.14100534]

>>14100440
What stops you from making you and your own children ritch?

[Anonymous No.14100591]

>>14100354
>wanting to end the oppression of all peoples is bait
having a totally normal one, i see

[Anonymous No.14100601]

>>14100327
>>14100391
>>14100396
>>14100400
>>14100425
>>14100440
>>14100457
>>14100591
i want women to get off my website

[Anonymous No.14100600]

>>14100391
based
>>14100414
cringe

[Anonymous No.14100611]

>>14100601
>exploitation and wageslavery is totally based and redpilled!!!!

[Anonymous No.14100615]

>>14100611
fuck off roastie. if i wanted to read the whinings of women i would purchase a virginia woolf novel.

[Anonymous No.14100620]

>>14100615
ur mom telling you to get a job and stop shitting up your diapers doesnt count?

[Anonymous No.14100629]

amazed by all the outraged posts itt

i mean none of yall are actually porky tier successful, other wise u wouldnt be on 4chan to begin with
so basicaly youre ok with being cucked by capital from the cradle to the grave because....it allows space for women and minorities to be heard? who you hate because.......:????

doing a big think here

[Anonymous No.14100640]

>>14100620
>>14100629
hello women, please leave. there are many other cyber spheres for you. fuck off to twitter or something.

[Anonymous No.14100641]

>>14100391
wow a decent post for a change

[Anonymous No.14100647]

>>14100629
Socialists don't have anything better to offer.
>just trust us to be dictators bro it will eventually be for your own good
How about no

[Anonymous No.14100648]

>>14100640
nothing says masculinity like literally being cucked by the economic system you inhabit lol

[Anonymous No.14100649]

>>14100640
have sex

[Anonymous No.14100650]

>>14100629
i would rather be tortured physically and mentally my whole life, live entiterly alone with no friends or family, never experience a single moment of relief, and then die alone in misery and abject poverty than for even one woman to feel happy for a single instant.

[Anonymous No.14100654]

>>14100650
on second thought..please never attempt >>14100649 unless its with ur dad

[Anonymous No.14100655]

>>14100534
As a worker born with nothing, I have no way to make money without becoming highly indebted to the upper class. I don't have existing capital to invest and trade for return on investment of course, so what are my other options? I could either learn valuable skills and make a high wage / salary, or start my own business.

Let's talk about starting my own business first. This would be ideal to someone that knows marxist economics and wants to make money, right? If you're the owner, you collect all the profit for yourself on the backs of your workers. But there's a problem here, you can't start you own business without a large amount of capital to start with! You need the knowledge and skills to actually create and maintain the business, and the money to bring this knowledge and skill into the material world! Without this skill, you'll be taking a risk with a very poor chance of returning anything, which is irrational. Without the money, it's impossible to materialize.

So where does acquire these skills? Either a school, which will be very expensive, and require you to take out immense loans, or through decades of experience working for a wage in the business. In both cases, when you finally have the skill and knowledge, you will have to take out another loan. The business then, fails to be an exercise in profit, and rather just bill paying to a j- I mean... nice banker. You have clearly just fallen into a trap. One day, you may have acquired the skills/knowledge to be a good business owner, manifested them into the real world, and paid your debts, and at this point you will be an old man, who has worked his entire life. Not the same as the lazy capitalist, born with money, who simply collected from his financial manager.

But what about acquiring skills to be a good wage / salary worker? Fair enough, but you're going to have to work extremely hard doing engineering, math, law, medicine, or finance. Oh, you didn't want to do these? Or maybe you wanted to do them, but academically? Sorry, too bad, those're your only options. Acquiring these degrees is going to accrue a huge chunk of debt, and transforming them into good employment is going to involve a lot of labour in the form of networking, sycophancy, and other extremely gay forms of contemporary job finding.

cont.

[Anonymous No.14100656]

>>14100649
>>14100648
please leave roastoids, this place is not for your kind.

[Anonymous No.14100657]

>>14100655
Now what happens when you finally graduate, and get a job in these fields? You make a nice wage, congratulations. Well, you're going to spend the next chunk of your life just paying off your student loans. No big deal though, you're going to invest all of your extra money into your financial portfolio! But wait, good financial managers are really expensive, so expensive they're not worth it. Better learn the market buddy! Oh you didn't want to be a man who spends half his life engineering and the other trading? Maybe you wanted to do something creative, or personally meaningful? Perhaps write books, music, or build a race car? Too fucking bad. Anyway, go learn the market, and start investing your few thousands in, getting a few percent return is good! You'll be making thousands with just 10-20 more years of investing. Ooops the market crashed and you lost all your savings haha sorry. No matter, you had a safe portfolio, which is why you only make a few percent ROI! Finally, after 30 years of working super hard to pay off your student loans, mortgage, and building your portfolio, you've achieved financial success, you have capital! Oh, shit, your entire youth is gone, I hope working your whole life was your dream!

Not the same as the capitalist who did nothing but collect ROI his whole life! Laziness is morally bad, right??

But give it all to your son right! Live through your son, right?? That's right, the world is just overflowing with women who will want to marry me, have children, and make a good wife. Fuck, well that's not true, but maybe ill get lucky? Oh, well he cost a million dollars to raise, and turned out extremely rotten, because I was working my whole life and never could actually raise him, so the schools and internet did.

Fuck you. There is no hope for the worker. It is a lie, it is a myth, sold by the rich.

Also, you retards are being trolled by a tran. Raging against nothing amongst yourselves. You deserve this.

[Anonymous No.14100658]

>>14100654
whats it like to literally be unable to comprehend anything beyond your vagina?

[Anonymous No.14100667]

>>14100655
>>14100657
dare i say.........based

[Anonymous No.14100671]

>>14100425
When the Chinese flood Tibet with Han immigrants, or the Soviets settle Russians in Bloc countries, they are doing so to bring these places to heel. To breed the native culture out of existence. The correct response to an existential threat is resistance, not linguistic games about what meets the criteria for genocide.

So when Michelle Obama PHD gets in the news about white flight, faux-jivin' "ya'll STILL runnin' from us," she's talking about whites as you would an army in rout. "We've taken Detroit, now we're coming for Northville."

Well, Properly Educated blacks like the Obamas may be on board with Global Brazil Consumerism, but most blacks are leftists because it serves the interests of the tribe. It's funny, how across centuries, ideologies, continents, race always comes to the fore. The existential question is simple for Tibetans, and it's simple to me. Don't pathologize a community struggling for survival.

[Anonymous No.14100672]

>>14100629
>who you hate because.......:????
Their consciousness and its output genuinely make the world a less pleasant place to live in. I'd take eighteen hour workdays if we could wipe James Baldwin form the collective memory.

[Anonymous No.14100678]

>>14100658
idk the only whiny cunt here seems to be you anon

[Anonymous No.14100681]

>>14100655
>>14100657
FUCKING BASED

[Anonymous No.14100688]

>>14100672
what's wrong with baldwin?

[Anonymous No.14100692]

>>14100678
classic woman tactic lol. unoriginal, like everything else that comes from your blighted gender. no different than saying "no u!"
to all women itt: fuck off

[Anonymous No.14100695]

>>14100671
god when you people type this shit up do you realize how fucking unhinged you talk and sound. literally tangent after tangent of useless drivel.

[Anonymous No.14100700]

>>14100688
Empty headed humanism wrapped schlocky, overwrought prose.

[Anonymous No.14100702]

>>14100692
totally not mad

[Anonymous No.14100707]

>>14100702
is there something wrong with being mad? is anger not a part of life? how should i respond to women shitting up everything that i have ever loved?
kill yourself roastoid. your daddy will never love you. you will die alone and the world will forget you and your vagina.

[Anonymous No.14100709]

>>14100695
No he's entirely right and you all you can do is splutter like a retard in response you faggot

[Anonymous No.14100718]

>>14100671
>race is a primary, it is a tool by the ruling class
Then fucking kill the ruling class you idiot

[Anonymous No.14100720]

>>14100695
>Man on literature board can't read 6 sentences with a clear narrative thread
If I'm unhinged you're illiterate. The point of the tangents was that demographic warfare justifies itself in many ways: Communism, Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics, Egalitarianism, but the underlying notice is always ungabunga tribal warfare.

[Anonymous No.14100725]

>>14100720
>Man
oh no buddy oh no hahahaha

[Anonymous No.14100732]

By being a Nazi

[Anonymous No.14100734]

>>14100327
You should know that it’s poor form to inb4 as op.

[Anonymous No.14100742]

>>14100718
Tribal identity is only a tool of the ruling class in the same way that the human need for food or joy are - panem et circenses. And really, elites do not desire infighting amongst their paypigs. Tribal identity is an obstacle to the atomised consumer hellscape: like the family, it's a spiritual haven that has yet to be reprocessed into spectacle.

[Anonymous No.14100745]

Eternal race war is a fucking retarded ideology. Why do you want to die in a war that does not have to be? It's meaningless.

[Anonymous No.14100748]

>>14100327
You are weak and your weak mind will only find weak followers. God isn’t on your side, and I am willing to die for my beliefs unlike you you fucking pussy.

[Anonymous No.14100761]

>>14100709
>>14100720
He has to call you unhinged as a subtle reminder to all reading that the left has a monopoly on mental health, and that deviation of from the left is pathological.

[Anonymous No.14100773]

>>14100657
Is this how Marxists actually think? These scenarios and arguments are so shallow and just intellectually lazy. It reads like a 10 year old trying to sound like an adult. I honestly stopped reading halfway because I couldn’t take it.

I’ll admit there’s a number of left wing thinkers who hold their own intellectually, but I’m pretty convinced that your whole movement is made up of low IQ untermensch who just parrot the handful of working class proles just smart enough to get into the worst state school in their state as sophomore transfers.

[Anonymous No.14100787]

>>14100742
All this tells me is that race war is just a more primitive form of subjugation. Fascists want a world where every race is enslaved to theirs. This secures them the status position of worker, but AT least not slave. You will not be an artistocrat in a fascist world, you will be a worker. Either you will be eternally at war with the liberals, who are threatened by you, or you will win the final race war, and still be subjugated by your master, who needs your labour to maintain his hierarchical system, lest his slaves revolt.

Fascism is not liberation, it is not a spiritual heaven. It is the same situation to the worker, except he enjoys a mildly elevated social position compared to the liberal worker, as he has a slave class to look down onto. This is spiritual heaven to you? To be able to say nigger, with pride? This is nothing but a deal cut between the ruling class and the worker. The worker does not have to cut a deal, the worker can transcend, destroy all hierarchy, and live in a world where he has the freedom from, and the freedom to, do and have far more than he ever could.

[Anonymous No.14100800]

>>14100773
I agree with this anon, it's totally bullshit. But, I honestly feel kind of unsatisfied without being able to say why.. someone needs to step up and btfo this guy.

[Anonymous No.14100843]

>>14100787
The marxoid critiques of fascism have never corresponded to my reality. Liberation as you envision it is impossible because hierarchy is natural product of human diversity. How do you enforce abolishing wealth accumulation without a higher power with a monopoly on force?

But liberation in that sense is undesirable. A husband, wife and child are all "unequal," but none is less important than the other, and all benefit from their relationships with each other. The person with the least power, the child, arguably benefits the most. So a fascist sees society: a diverse union of people who each have a role to play.

[Anonymous No.14100860]

>>14100327
if you want people to adhere to your ideology you have to be normal and cool and posting on /lit/ makes you neither

[Anonymous No.14100893]

>>14100843
For what it's worth, I'll add that I and as far as I can tell the majority of "fascists" do not care about the evolan imperium bullshit. I want a strong community to raise my kids in, a solid fence, and good neighbors. I expect black, indian, Hispanic people want the same thing, and I think they deserve it.

[Anonymous No.14100932]

>>14100843
Reality? What is reality to you? Clearly it is that all men desire power, and more power with no reason. But this a dogmatic image of desire. This is idolatry that has a backward logic. We men are always at war with each other, so we believe that more power is what we must have. But this war does not have to be.

Human diversity need not be expressed through power. Look at the immense power of our economy, and how much surplus value it generates. How much power do you really need? For what ends? What do you really want out of life?

You want freedom. Men do not dream of being king of the world do they? They dream of love, they dream of creating wonderful works with their hands, they dream of a quiet soul. Power is not freedom. Power may grant freedom, but a man only needs so much power to be free, for he is limited by his flesh, he is just a man. Desire for infinite power puts power above us, it should be below.

[Anonymous No.14100939]

>>14100893
You're just a liberal then.

[Anonymous No.14101000]

>>14100932
No, see this is my point. Fascists do not think people desire infinite power. We're in perfect agreement on What Men Seek or whatever. My point is that a society of 10 God-seeking artists and Elon Musk is going to have power imbalances simply as a byproduct of people trying to live their lives as they want. Maybe you also realize this. It isn't inherently a war of power against power. A diverse and unequal society can be harmonious in the way the human body with its diverse specialized organs is.

[Anonymous No.14101007]

>>14100939
By good fences, I mean The Wall.
By good neighbors, I mean non-whites stay outside The Wall.

[Anonymous No.14101012]

>>14100648
undeniably based

[Anonymous No.14101016]

>>14100327
Marxism's strict reliance on materialism is what makes it most unappealing to me personally

I actually went to some meetings with my university's Marxist society, and disliked them a lot. This modernist illusion of eternal progress seems really silly and the club honestly seemed like a group of science fiction fanboys playing a game where they imagine what life is like in their favourite TV show. I personally find great insight in some Marxist theory, and many of my favourite theorists are Marxists, but utopianism nowadays is misguided disillusionment and honestly just reinforces the system it criticises by being yet another commodity or edgy attribute you can "freely" use when designing your individual atomised consumer self

[Anonymous No.14101023]

>>14101012
shes not gonna suck your dick just cuz you called her based on 4chan buddy

[Anonymous No.14101052]

>>14101016
You should read Mosse's Fascist Revolution if you ever get a chance. He talks about exactly this phenomenon. Every time there is a crisis in liberalism and/or capitalism, lots of people who want to embrace something LIKE Marxism/socialism at first flock to those ideologies and are then repelled by how materialistic, anti-individualist, anti-heroic, anti-humanistic etc. they are. Proletarian culture around 1900 was apparently obsessively anti-"great man" etc.

I've had the same experiences nowadays hanging out with Marxists. Surprised me how many of them were secretly into Wilhelm Reich, secretly obsessed with the idea that "if everyone just fucks and lives the orgyporgy lifestyle, all political problems will be over!" Whether it's from Reich or from the post-war psychoanalysis version of the Frankfurt School, this was a very common view among the smartest Marxists I hung out with. I just don't think they understand that it's possible to not like this idea. If you ever say that you think life must be about more than orgyporgy, they naturally assume you only think that because you haven't had enough orgyporgy and you've become "pathological."

These people wouldn't be so offensive on their own, some of them are very thoughtful. The problem is that they're typically surrounded by other college Marxists of much worse varieties: the champagne socialist whose dad pays his or her rent, the obsessive materialist who doesn't even have subtlety about it, the lunatic communist cultist who could just as easily have been a fascist if their favorite color hadn't been red, the simply fairly stupid (if well meaning) DSA types whose political praxis is effectively "can't we all be nice? I want things to be nice.. Poor trannies.." and who wouldn't know how to distinguish Marxism from utopian socialism but who go along with the Marxist crowd because they have the higher prestige or something.

And surrounding all these people is an air of casual drug use, slacker lifestyle that I guess they think is "bohemian" but just comes across as dirty and grimy, drama, and paradoxically, college rich kid entitlement. The net result that I witnessed was that the smartest Marxists tended to have to erect barriers and defense mechanisms to be able to cope with being in the group. And they were also for that reason the most sympathetic to right-wing politics, if only because hanging out with a bunch of lazy histrionic thought-policing trannies for long enough makes it refreshing to talk about anything else once in a while.

[Anonymous No.14101173]

>>14101052
This sort of happened to me. I originally tried to get involved in Marxist circles a few years ago an I was absolutely alienated by how...weird all of it was. Like even before I'd ever been exposed to the far right, when I thought Fox News was the epitome of capitalist imperialism in decline or whatever, I wasn't going to "respect" some tranny's pronouns or hoist black people onto a pedestal because of the progressive stack. They worshiped ugliness and slavishness and it was readily apparent that they were nothing more than slaves to the people they pretended to hate. Eventually I ended up looking to the far right and now I'm a fascist because that's really the only way to be anti-capitalist in the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.14101186]

>>14101052
>Surprised me how many of them were secretly into Wilhelm Reich
Why, it should be obvious to anyone with any sense that emancipatory politics are fundamentally libidinal.

[Anonymous No.14101201]

>>14100339
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14101242]

>>14101201
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14101263]

>>14101052
I am probably guilty of falling into some of these groups you mentioned, at least partly. The echo chamber of double standards is always a risk when as a young adult you finally find yourself with like-minded people for the first time, and it would be hypocritical of me to criticize it too much, as the people I surround myself with have helped me create one of my own. The whole bohemian lifestyle of intellectual-ish hedonism is another thing I am very guilty of taking part in; I can't deny I enjoy energy and friendship and talking about Adorno in my cigarette smelling lounge, it's the beauty of youth and I am grateful for having the chance to take part in it. Going back to the actual effectiveness of Marxism in the twenty first century, though, all this just shows how being a rebel has effectively become a fetishized commodity. Ideas and dreams are like badges on the parkas that fit the aesthetic we chose to adhere to. I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy smoking weed in some edgy girl's bedroom and talking about some random thing nobody outside the bubble of our uni would care to comprehend, but if that's the state of today's Marxism, it's proof that capitalism has officially killed it, pissed on it, and sold us it's dead body along with scarves and rolling papers. Marxism as a personal ideological statement in today's world is a symptom of pure individualism, where even the idea of anti-individualism is just a branded lifestyle or identity, used to show how morally superior one is and supposedly detached from the world they can't help but consume the products of

Also thanks for the rec, I will give that a look

[Anonymous No.14101366]

>>14101263
Marxism has been commodified, it's merely an identity you buy. It cannot effectively combat capitalism because it is now a part of capitalism. The far right is truly anti-capitalist because capitalism does not (and maybe cannot?) integrate it the same way it has with Marxism. If you become outed as a member of the far right, you are excluded from the capitalist system entirely: expelled from school, fired from you job, deleted from social media, etc.

[Anonymous No.14101383]

>>14101263
Marxism's utter failure to materialize is simply a product of the materialist dialectic. Thing have been materially good for how long now? This is no surprise, we live in the triumphant imperialist state. Look at the products you are currently within arms reach of. All built on the backs of the third world worker. Why would the worker in the west rebel against this? He has, relatively, a good deal, and stands to lose something. The first 50 or so years after world war 2 were prosperous, schooling was cheap, the market only went up, products were cheap. This failure for communism to come about during this time is not an indictment against marxism, but corroborates it.

Things are going to get worse, now. Globalism is the end of capitalist expansion, for we cannot go past the globe to find new backs to crack a whip over. This is why the economy has never really recovered from 2008, why wages are stagnant, why student loan debt balloons, as does tuition cost. This is why our parents owned houses, but we don't. As capitalism grinds to a halt, crises become more frequent, and the police become more and more violent to keep us in order, then you will see rebellion. Did you know that the Chileans are in the streets, refusing to work, and causing chaos, in protest of their economic system, right now? What will happen to them? They will either be beaten into submission by their police, or receive a laundry list of concessions from the ruling class. In ether case, capitalism undoes itself. As violence against the people grows, so does dissent. As concessions from the ruling class grow, so does the ability to generate and hoard profit.

Capitalism's ability to subsume marxism only sustains itself by material conditions, and these conditions are evaporating.

[Anonymous No.14101441]

>>14101383
I liked this post, thanks

[Anonymous No.14101553]

RW smoothbrain might say "import more third-world immigration" but it's less about big number good and more about radicalizing those displaced who are already in the imperialist core countries

[Anonymous No.14101584]

>>14101366
really? capitalism cannot co-opt fascists? Then what is Trump? His soft ethno-nationalist sentiments are the exact kind of thing that hypnotizes would-be fascists into believing in him. Trump is not a fascist, but it is obvious that he made them his ally.

[Anonymous No.14101591]

>>14101383
Nice.

[Anonymous No.14101610]

>>14100327
A shit ton of college debt + orchiectomy seems to be the road most traveled by that lot.

[Anonymous No.14101612]

>>14101584
>soft ethno-nationalist sentiments
Before I try to unravel the heap of shit you've probably got stored in your head, let me ask: do politicians like Al Green and Joyce Beatty also hold "soft-ethnonationalist sentiments"?

[Anonymous No.14101619]

>>14101584
Trump has said some things that are remotely civnat. He is not my ally. You are a faggot.

[Anonymous No.14101657]

>>14100327
Posting to imageboards, and crying when a revolution doesn't happen like the faggot you are

[Anonymous No.14102366]

>>14101383
50% based, 50% cringe

[Anonymous No.14102380]

>>14101584
holy FUCK you are R E T A R D E D

[Anonymous No.14102488]

>>14100327
I like how the mods saw this post, probably saw >>14100340 this reply, deleted a few replies for being racist mentioning "sage," but keeps the rule-breaking thread up. It's like they're trying to keep this place shitty.
Bumped, so this shitty rule breaking thread can reach bump limit already. I think I'm just about done with this place.

[Anonymous No.14102721]

>>14102488

[Anonymous No.14103096]

>>14100649
My favourite part about this meme response is how it basically tacitly admits the only thing valuable a woman can do revolves around her being a hole to fuck.

[Anonymous No.14103138]

>>14101584
You would genuinely benefit from getting out of your bubble for a few hours and listening to/reading media from the more "fascist" right. I'm not saying it because I believe it would change your mind because it probably wouldn't, but you'd at least sound like someone who has a basic clue about what your supposed opponents believe. You sound like one of those cat ladies who gets all hopped up on MSNBC and NPR and thinks voting for a corporate shill like Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris will actually bring the US closer towards socialism rather than more homogenized "Woke Capitalism."

[Anonymous No.14103313]

>>14100327
You find your local Platypus chapter and start attending reading group

[Anonymous No.14103680]

>>14100340
Considering most leftist political discussion is really discussion of books, this thread belongs here

You do realize /pol/ is full of paid bad-actors and the people most mentally infested by fascism on the site, right?

How can you appeal to the mods to say this isn't political when the mods themselves have failed /pol/ and we have no alternative places to discuss Marxism, the most fundamentally intellectual foundation of leftist political thought?

[Anonymous No.14103690]

>>14100648
holy fucking shit lmfao

based and leftpilled

[Anonymous No.14103692]

>>14100400
Whites are the most delusional race.

[Anonymous No.14103695]

>>14100655
I concur with the others this is one where you read it and you're like, damn, wait, that's a real post right there

[Anonymous No.14103755]

>>14101383
Yes, capitalism is unable or unwilling to deliver material wealth or growth to the people any longer (and this is causing people to question it as an economic system). The wealth pump is drying up, and the upper class are attacking the middle class, because that's what happens when growth stalls - you start to invade and loot and play zero sum games.

It's possible that the peoples of nations will rise up and overthrow their masters, but history shows (and is showing) that this is as much an opportunity for the far right as it is for Marxist revolutionaries. There is nothing inevitable about the communist revolution.

>The first 50 or so years after world war 2 were prosperous, schooling was cheap, the market only went up, products were cheap. This failure for communism to come about during this time is not an indictment against marxism, but corroborates it.
It doesn't corroborate it. Many nominally communist countries existed at this time. Whether or not they were pure enough for you, the failure for communism to occur during this time actually (at best) says nothing at all about the validity of marxism. At worst, it says that all attempts at Marxism failed. The lesson of the 20th century was that capitalism was a superior model for wealth generation than anything else implemented by humanity at the time. There were still economic issues during this time, though. It wasn't perfect, and many things changed dramatically in the 70s and 80s. The lesson of the 21st century might prove different, but the lesson seems more likely to be about how dictatorships with centralised control may actually work given sufficiently complex technology.

If anything, the historical conditions are significantly weighted against traditional marxist solutions. The power of the working class has been totally smashed by globalisation and technology, which is why left wing parties no longer represent strong unionised collectives of workers. They represent a fractured gaggle of consumer demographics based on race/sex/sexuality/gender/etc. who all want to rent seek and get bribes from the largesse of markets and democracies. This is not a recipe for a communist revolution, lol.

It is certainly the case that capitalism failing to deliver wealth to ordinary people will lead to instability and questions about how best to run the economic system will arise. This creates an opportunity for Marxism, but unless Communism is actually better at creating wealth through economic growth (which is not clear at all), then there will be blood because the only solution will be to redistribute wealth.

[Anonymous No.14103592]

>>14100327
The only legitimate answer to this question is to associate and procreate with individuals of a similar political orientation so that you can establish a cohort of individuals who desire to form a commune. Then you must create a commune and be successful such that others will see the success of your political system and be willing to join all while maintaining an orthodox view of Marxist thought such that your society does not degenerate into a revisionist form. If people shift their faith to yours you will be surprised how quickly the system will collapse as its very foundations are built upon by a strong faith in it. Sucking neoliberal cock will only get you social democracy masquerading as communism which is the current state of many prominent leftist thought in America.

>>14100391
I guarantee the only people who will show an interest in your esoteric ideas are other whites and jews (assuming you are in the U.S.). Politics are subservient to ethnic interests in the presence of other groups, only when one has achieved unified supermajority will they take a true interest in the proper forms of governance and it shall not come directly from an outsider like you.

>>14101584
trump is a civnat at best, the only "fascists" who earnestly see trump as anything other than the least bad option are the sort who have only read the Wikipedia article for Mussolini and Hitler and downloaded a fashwave background for their desktop.

>>14101383
A fair view of things, capitalism is built on material wealth for the masses above all else and in the absence of that, it will collapse. It is perhaps why many billionaires are more generous than one might think as they see that infinite wealth matters not in the face of a public which loses faith in the faith-based system that gives their capital value.

[Anonymous No.14103783]

>>14100327
By accompanying it with pictures of pretty girls, i.e. appealing to libido and aesthetics i.e. what you are already doing now

[Anonymous No.14103644]

>>14100932
but you don't realize cultural marxism and economic capitalismare too sides of the same coin, we all know the 68 boomer hippie utopia, came true a long time ago, we didn't get john lennon, love growing like putrid tumour on what was once the west. they want to reduce humanity to an homogenous herd of raceless, genderless, sexless consumer cattle with pink hair subject to constant surveillance and censorship by the managerial gynocracy globohomo leviathan academic therapeutic slave morality complex. These people actively relish victimhood and are incapable of appreciating or creating art. the harsh truth is, More freedom for the weak actually means less freedom for the strong, if we let the weak get their way, they will drag the strong down to their level. Fascism is actually the highest form of anarchy, a fascist is just an anarchist who is not willing to let the freedom of the weak get in the way of his freedom. leftists fancy themselves rebels when they are really just the lapdogs of the establishment, but the truth is there is nothing edgier or more transgressive than all out no holds barred capital-F Fascism and remorseless national socialist revolution.

[Anonymous No.14103813]

>>14100657
100% absolutely based and red pilled

I hope you don't stop posting comrade, you're really good

[Anonymous No.14103866]

>>14103783
wow really based

[Anonymous No.14104378]

>>14100327
Based OP

[Anonymous No.14104633]

>>14103644
based schizo poster

[Anonymous No.14105586]

its simple....we kill the landlords

[Anonymous No.14105621]

>>14103680
>Considering most leftist political discussion is really discussion of books, this thread belongs here
AHAHAHHASHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAOOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAH
man, if only women were this funny when they tried to be

[Anonymous No.14107012]

>>14100327
nice MAGA hat, tranny

[Anonymous No.14107159]

test

[Anonymous No.14108177]

>>14101584
holy fuckin shit

[Anonymous No.14108353]

>>14100327
>what is the correct way of spreading, nurturing...
>reactionary pigs need not apply
certainly not like this

[Anonymous No.14108409]

>>14108353
tell me, why should leftists yield an inch to the fash and fash-adjacent? like i'm tired of this fucking charade where the left always has to play super nice and "have a conversation" while the right are all free to loot the people and be assholes about it at the same time, and openly tell those who aren't on their side to go fuck themselves because they're poor or a minority. there's always gonna be a group of porkys and /pol/schizos that you simply cannot convert no matter how hard you try, not even under the barrel of a gun. there's no use in wasting any time on them

[Anonymous No.14108413]

>>14100327
>what is the correct way of spreading, nurturing, and practicing marxist thought/theory in 2019?
By demonstrating marxist superiority through personal success.

[Anonymous No.14108455]

>>14100655
>As a worker born with nothing, I have no way to make money without becoming highly indebted to the upper class. I don't have existing capital to invest and trade for return on investment of course, so what are my other options
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thats why you should stick to the right retard; get a family, earn money, enjoy a bit, make your child's life easier than yours (not so easy btw).
Basically press the restart button on your life, thats why you need friends and a small society (they can help you with your business)

[Anonymous No.14108499]

>>14108455
how about restructuring society in such a way that "pressing the restart button on your life" isn't a necessity for anyone?

[Anonymous No.14108583]

>>14108409
>i'm tired of this fucking charade where the left always has to play super nice
you and your kind flaunt yourselves as morally righteous with a 'holier than thou' attitude everyone else is wrong blah blah blah yea so stick to it or stfu about being so much better than everyone ok thx

[Anonymous No.14109290]

>>14108583
yeah fuck having any belief at all in the superiority of your ideas or anything

[Anonymous No.14109312]

>>14109290
leftists don't have coherent beliefs beyond tribalism. they are by their own standards 'privileged' people, often among the educated middle classes who want to expiate their own guilt by unloading it onto someone else, hence they are always looking for scapegoats, they cravenly consume communist iconography and rainbow flags as commodities, are often actively hostile to reading books and generally unpleasant to be around. the left is less of a political movement and more of a religion or a specially ineffective form of psychotherapy. having rejected any idea of virtue or the good life they can only turn to hedonism and therapeuthic fixes. too oversocialised to actualy offer a meaningful critique of society.

[Anonymous No.14109334]

>>14100340
Fucking based

[Anonymous No.14109433]

>>14109290
lol ..you don't have the right to be a pretentious prick just because you believe in your ideas. grow up and find some humility faggot. you people behave like spoiled children

[Anonymous No.14110313]

>>14109312
wow not a single correct statement in that post, just neurotic delusions piled on each other

[Anonymous No.14110830]

>>14105586
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.14110835]

>>14100327
i recognize that girl from twitter

[Anonymous No.14111008]

>>14100327
Hello! You can do so by recommending me some good books by or about Marx that focus on his disagreements with social democratic policy and moral universalism, and maybe other works that focus on the un-cucked aspects of Marxism.

[Anonymous No.14111312]

>not being a retard makes you a reactionary

[Anonymous No.14111895]

>>14109433
>please show some humility in the face of increasing wealth consolidation and inevitable environmental collapse

[Anonymous No.14112035]

>>14111312

[Anonymous No.14112227]

>>14109312
Correct

[Anonymous No.14112339]

>>14111312
>imagine posting this image thinking you've '#rekt the commies who don't even believe money should exist

my god fuck off back to /pol/ please

[Anonymous No.14112414]

>>14108409
Yeah who could forget all those super nice leftists like Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh

[Anonymous No.14112425]

>>14111895
>inevitable environmental collapse
>communists in charge of any ecological reform

[Anonymous No.14112468]

>>14102488
the mod team has /pol/ vermin in it, it's pretty obvious they think this sort of shitstirring counts as "promoting discourse" & that none of them can read

[Anonymous No.14113006]

>>14111895
>inevitable environmental collapse

[Anonymous No.14114070]

>>14113006
hes right tho

[Anonymous No.14114132]

Every Marxist is either dead, grey-haired, or a misanthropic tranny. Neoliberals have completely BTFO’d and co-opted “leftism”, and the only thing you leftists are allowed to believe in is equal access to the market for every demographic group. Just give up or join the Islamo-Nazbol resistance

[Anonymous No.14114229]

>>14100327
""""Hey dudes""""pls can you do my assignment for me as my fem brain only knows one thing

[Anonymous No.14115769]

>>14114132
brain like a rotted fuckin apple on this guy

[Anonymous No.14116389]

>>14100391
Great introduction to anti-gemeinwesen rackets. I bet you could recruit a lot of proles over at reddit.

[Anonymous No.14116395]

>>14114132
Wrong. They liberalised themselves.

[Anonymous No.14116415]

>>14100327
Question for OP: Are you the same guy who used to post this image >>/lit/image/9apFH0XWFSJd17vaRvRxlA

[Anonymous No.14116565]

>>14115769
Always the lowercase faggots with their ad hominem replies.

[Anonymous No.14116724]

>>14100647
I didn't know thalidomide babies posted here.

[Anonymous No.14116747]

>>14100655
>>14100657
Incisive rebuke of credentialism, managerialism and the general slow cancellation of the future. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.14116780]

>>14100327
Idk I just troll conservatives. The other day at Starbucks, I saw some piece of shit obese redneck with one of those cringey boomer shirt that had like a gun and a crucifix or some shit.

I went up to him and told he was a disgusting racist and that him and his family didn't belong here. Basically just try to embarrass racists and coder active in public, so they know their views are not welcome in a free and equal society.

[Anonymous No.14116786]

>>14116780
*embarrass racists and criticize them in public

[Anonymous No.14116793]

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