Spenglerianism

[Anonymous No.14087749]

Am I the only one who has realized that Spengler is right about everything?

The Faustian civilization that we live in is in unavoidable decline.

The glory of 'Western' (Faustian) culture ended with the last of its significant philosophers in Nietzsche and Marx.

When a blooming culture begins to die it become a civilization. It expands in all directions for no reason other than to compensate for its lack of internal innovation. It loses all of its vitality and inner cohesion, a grand palace that's all rotting in the inside. It looks big and powerful but will get pushed over by a stiff breeze. Spengler said that the Roman Empire, despite its apparent might, was never able to win a war against a major power after its final victory over Carthage, where it began to decline. The 'West' is that exact same way ever since the Second World War. A big, bloated corpse waiting for someone to poke it for it to explode.

And just in case you call me a smug Asian insectoid gloating at the fall of the West, I genuinely mourn your death because when you're gone it's game over for us too. Democracy, civilization, individualism, all gone. Unless a miracle happens the fall of the West will usher in a millenium of regression and savage tyranny that will cover the entire world.

[Anonymous No.14087773]

His analysis is full of shit, based on obsolete research and the neuroses of his time.

[Anonymous No.14087794]

>>14087749
>And just in case you call me a smug Asian insectoid gloating at the fall of the West, I genuinely mourn your death because when you're gone it's game over for us too.
If you understood anything about Spengler you should realize the cycle will just start anew. Whether it is China or some other country, someone else will fill the void left behind by present-day America and Western Europe. Then that new culture will evolve into a civilization and the cycle goes on and on until the death of the Sun puts everyone out of their misery on this godforsaken rock.

[Anonymous No.14087796]

>>14087749
I'm 100 pages into Decline of the west and it's kinda dumb

I like reading it for his analysis on math and some interesting observations on history but it's just a thesis. Also he revises parts of his thesis in his "Technics" book he wrote after Decline.

Spengler also predicted that after "The West" collapses in 2200, Russia will rise up to replace it. I am fine with this, I think everyone is disgusted with America as a global power at this point.

[Anonymous No.14087809]

>>14087796
>Spengler also predicted that after "The West" collapses in 2200

>tfw we have another 180 years of this

[Anonymous No.14087826]

>mfw Spengler thought the Roman Empire had declined even though it was still a major world power as he was writing the book

[Anonymous No.14087886]

>>14087796
I don't give a shit if America falls or not, but who said Russia or China for instance will be better?

[Anonymous No.14087949]

>>14087826
>holy roman empire
>isn't actually holy, roman, or an empire

[Anonymous No.14087959]

>>14087826
the ottoman empire was dead by the time he wrote the book

[Anonymous No.14088001]

>>14087959
First volume 1918 so very much alive as he was writing

[Anonymous No.14088004]

>>14088001
>very much alive
maybe if you're impossibly naive

[Anonymous No.14088013]

>>14088004
>>14087959
>implying the Roman/Ottoman empire isn't thriving to this very day

[Anonymous No.14088039]

>>14087886
His opinion is that Orthodox Catholicism would preserve Russia and grow into something incredible as Russia becomes the new superpower.

All of these predictions seem ridiculous to me. Seems like all civilizations waiver here and there. At the time of the Crusades, Europeans thought doomsday was on the horizon. It is yet to be seen how the internet will be utilized by westerners going into the future as well.

[Anonymous No.14088199]

>>14088039
Civilization is like opera or test cricket. It is always being pronounced to be in irreversible decline compared to some golden age of the past. You could even argue that the defining feature of civilization, something it must have to be considered a civilization at all, would be to believe itself to be in decline.

[Anonymous No.14088256]

>>14088199
test cricket is actually in perpetual decline though

[Anonymous No.14088594]

>>14087749
>Am I the only one who has realized that Spengler is right about everything?
Yes, apparently you are that deluded.

[Anonymous No.14088642]

Anecdote: when Burroughs first met Kerouac he told him to read Spengler

[Anonymous No.14088658]

>>14088256
Correct. It peaked with Bannerman's 67.34% innings and has been declining ever since

[Anonymous No.14089785]

>>14087773
Doesn't make his analysis wrong or useless. See Nietzsche who you could literally the same thing about.

[Anonymous No.14089806]

>>14087749
>Am I the only one who
Let this meme die already.