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14078931 No.14078931 [Reply] [Original]

Just looked at the photos that Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky took in early 20th century Russia.
They're only a bit more than 100 years old, but they're like from a different world.
Am I really a delusional person if I don't think that today, the world is the best it's ever been?
It's not just me reading meme traditionalists, it's actually reality I think.

>> No.14078941

Here are some of his best ones: https://www.flickr.com/photos/prokudin-gorsky/

>> No.14078954
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>>14078931
We were a low energy society. Now we’re burning through it all at a ridiculous pace and threatening our future existence.
Also, look what the Soviets did. Went from this to space faring in record time.

>> No.14078968

Never heard of the guy before and just learned about him like two hours ago and now I see this thread wtf. Whatever, it's a shame that his picture of Tolstoy is not nearly as vivid as some of his other photographs

>> No.14079003

>>14078968
Also, his photographs have something very uncanny as the fact that they look as though they could have been shot today makes the people depicted in them look like actors

>> No.14079010

Its not much different but we have a veneer of choice and freedom but have lost the knowledge of knowing our place in the world and the security that comes from having a close in-group.

>> No.14079155
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>>14078931
Dear OP, I agree.
Very nice pictures, indeed. I have the same feeling when I look at the old pictures of Berlin, compared to today when I am walking in the streets. I think that most people are not very good at creating beautiful things with new technologies and materials.
The architecture, the clothing, the aesthetics, they are all reflect our societies. Beauty and harmony are not as important nowadays as being 'cool' and innovative. Pride and the will to impress are still present however.
Many people have comfort as their #1 priority, making the 17-mid20th century seem horrible. No antibiotics, electricity, a car, being able to travel cheaply, a conservative, religious society.
However it seems to me, that the people in the generations born between the 1920s and 1980s didn't care much about the changes, of how things have been done. That impression is based upon my interactions with the people from these generations, when I talk to them and ask them about their thoughts about the changes in our societies. Didn't get a proper answer besides 'I didn't care about it (back then)'. Pretty dull and you can easily find people who adore the old things and old ways. But they are rare, since then our world would look much different, wouldn't it? Most of the things that are newly being done are ugly and shit.
I enjoy seeing pictures or videos of the past. Often I have the feeling, that almost everything was done in a beautiful way compared to today, with lots of details.
If you are unhappy with you environment, watching Netflix in an ugly fat every evening and having a mundane job/university, then you are not weird at all.
Stefan Zweig's 'The World of Yesterday' might be something for you.

>> No.14079201

>>14079010
>We have lost the knowledge of knowing our place in the world and the security that comes from having a close in-group.
Well said. Nowadays you can "do anything you like" and "follow your dreams".
People are freely roaming around, without having a root to the earth.

>> No.14079218

>>14079155
In the old days, building a cathedral would take sometimes even multiple decades. Now propping up a huge housing block for 100s of people to live in, doesn't even take 1 year.
Of course it's gonna look ugly.
Today it's all about productivity and efficiency.
Even art today is created only to be consumed by as many people as possible.

>> No.14079220
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Here’s a photo he took of the village Rasputin was from. Apparently Sergey hated what Rasputin was doing to the monarchy, so he framed his family home out of the shot.

>> No.14079275

>>14078954
>We were a low energy society.
Do you see this as a positive or a negative?

>Went from this to space faring in record time.
Do you see this as a positive or a negative?

>> No.14079302

>>14079275
Mostly neither. It just happened like that.
I think we could have done with a little more thought, more caution. I like to think things would have been a little better if Europe hadn't gone "Christian", if Julian had succeeded or if "apostles" had been killed before reaching Anatolia and Greece. But it's just fantasy, thought exercises.
I would like an advanced *civilization* to consist of a mostly wild world

>> No.14079330

>>14078931
You can still find shacks and farms in the modern world, buddy. And yes, they still exist in first world countries. Either visit one or stop romanticizing the lifestyle.

>> No.14079348
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14079348

>>14078931
>ywn live in a comfy 19th century Russian provincial town

>> No.14079582

>>14079330
Yes, I know. I live in a kinda rural first world country.
But even these farmers use modern technology to increase their yield, drive with their car to the nearest supermarket for food (even though they produce food themselves) and are connected with the modern world by phone and computer.

>> No.14079612

>>14079330
A few shacks and farms are worlds different than an entire village of the sort pictured in that imaged.

>> No.14079643

>>14079302
>I would like an advanced *civilization* to consist of a mostly wild world
what do you mean by this? tribalism?

>> No.14079759

>>14078931
The vast majority of people will always choose a complex but easy life over a simple but difficult life and most people that try to live such a life, give up in under a year. This site is full of people wanting this life, the internet is full of sites dedicated too it, but who is doing it? What is stopping anyone? Nothing but their realization that the grass is not actually greener.

I personally find the old ways better and do not understand how anyone can live in a city, but I live small town life and do not have much need for modernity. Internet is pretty great though, frees me from ever having to physically go to the city, and abebooks, selection here is limited to say the least. Been thinking of turning my personal library into a lending library for the town.
>>14078954
>Went from this to space faring in record time.
They didn't go from this, the Soviet space program was not built from the ground up by rural peasants, The USSR had modern cities full of educated people as well. You could just as easily say look how little time it took them to go from that to complete collapse. They had a pretty great run there for awhile and accomplished much, but they did not accomplish what you suggest they did.

>> No.14079770

>>14078931
Looks like a random 2019 eastern euro village. Poor villages in countryside are lagging far more than you think

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>>14079759
I'm hardly making a case for statism, but geez.
>The USA never went to the moon!
>NASA did that!
Fucking please.

>>14079643
Anarchism. A nice hybrid of "primitivism" and "transhumanism" branches

>> No.14079794

>>14079348
Tfw you won't be an accessory to some cunt's estate, only marginally better than his animals
Tfw you won't do backbreaking work from 13yo
Tfw you won't die from pneumonia at 32 after a life of pain

>> No.14079818

>>14079794
tfw you won't live a purposeless industrial bug life without any identity working for an unknown CEO halfway across the globe.

Oh wait..

>> No.14079846

>>14079792
>Fucking please.
I did not imply or say such a thing.

>> No.14079850

>>14079818
Both are slave jobs. Russian peasant beats me on natural landscape and sense of community I beat him on living a less painful life.

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>>14079818
Implying either is any good

>> No.14079857

>>14079853
Tribalism is the answer. The people in the Bronze age knew what was right.

>> No.14079860

>>14079850
Pain is not so easily defined. Mental pain, spiritual pain, and bodily pain are all different things, the former 2 afflicting the modern man more than the peasant. You are undoubtedly right about bodily pain, but there are certainly higher things in life than just what feels good at a given moment

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>>14079850
Russians made it into space. I didn't mean to imply illiterate blacksmiths from backwaters had sons who went on to become rocket scientists. Though such things happen.

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>>14079846
Russians made it into space. I didn't mean to imply illiterate blacksmiths from backwaters had sons who went on to become rocket scientists. Though such things happen.

>> No.14080145

>>14079874
>I didn't mean to imply illiterate blacksmiths
You didn't, you said they went from a simple pastoral life to space faring, you may have meant more, but that is all you said, which is bullshit. Say what you mean.

>> No.14080227

>>14079794
>Tfw you won't be an accessory to some cunt's estate, only marginally better than his animals
You get the pleasure of working for a global conglomerate whose CEO is not even sure your company is part of their conglomerate. Not that they'd ever see or talk to you anyway.
>Tfw you won't do backbreaking work from 13yo
Youre sat in a backbraking underfunded classroom from age 5 and dossed with ritalin for the next 12 years. Then you get to sit in an office for 60 years (if you are lucky) until you die because by the time you retire your pension is worthless and you dont have any hobbies anyway so you work till you drop.
>Tfw you won't die from pneumonia at 32 after a life of pain
No you die at 79 after 25 years of chronic pain from being sat on your arse your entire life and another 5 arduous palliative care because keeping you alive, even though it is killing your children through stress, is more profitable than dying "young".

>> No.14080232

>>14080145
Grandiose sweeping statements! How do they work!?

>Say what you mean
Fiction must be difficult for you to read.

>> No.14080276

Most small eastern European villages are almost identical to what they were 200 years ago. Big cities is what changed.

>> No.14080314

>>14079612
Do you seriously think there are no small rural villages in existence you dimwit? Try driving up to the countryside once in a while, lmao.

>> No.14080342

>>14080276
This. My auntie lives on a small farm in Lithuania and her area is almost identical to what’s depicted in those pictures. When I visit I get the sense that they are a proud, tight knit community with strong family ties.

>> No.14080345

>>14080314
You clearly aren't from the countryside if you think thatched roof houses that close together around a central Church is something that still exists in any great capacity. Maybe in your third world country though.

>> No.14080398

>>14079155
Wonderfully put. I never really considered that idea of art and such reflecting our society but now that you say it, it makes a lot of sense. The potential to create beauty is certainly still there, but society nowadays is too focused on getting the quickest result with the lowest cost, with the result that effort and ingenuity largely goes to waste. Thank you anon, you've really made things clearer for me.

>> No.14080448

>>14078931
People with no knowledge of how hard and miserable it is living an agricultural lifestyle, romanticizing a backwards society and living in bone crushing poverty; filled with superstition, ignorance, disease, and pestilence.
Although, it might be a positive experience for zoomers and soi bois, not having any consumer electronics, and learning to work sunrise to sunset, 7 days a week.

>> No.14080500

>>14080448
No one says it is perfect. It is awful, but less awful than living your life as a statistic in some Chinese tech company, working with no community or identity until you die with no freedom in your own home.

>> No.14080725

>>14080345
Fairly certain this thread is about a way of life and not a roofing technique. .>>14080448
>not having any consumer electronics, and learning to work sunrise to sunset, 7 days a week.
Oh no, no consumer electronics! You only work sunrise to sunset for a few weeks a year once you get established, mainly when the crops go in and harvest. First few years are hell and you work your fucking ass off, but it pays off with a nice life of you make it through. There is always somerhing to do, but you can spread most of it out and keep your work load well under 40 hours a week and you pretty much get winter off, little hunting, some ice fishing, split the days firewood, about it. Things start getting tricky once you add in dependants or live stock.

>> No.14080775

>>14078931

literally a farm town bro. stop exaggerating and get off the computer.

>> No.14080805

>>14079759
Russia was not quite the feudal backwater the most ardent commies make it out to be but it was also nowhere near comparable to the western european powers like the retarded libs make it out to be.

honestly the former is preferable to the latter if you have to fuck it up somehow because it stops retards from sitting there drooling and asking
>yeah will if commieism works then why was there STARVATION in an early industrial, largely agrarian state? Ireland? What's that?

>> No.14080830

>>14080725
I never said that people don't farm. I was talking more about the layout and aesthetics of everything

>> No.14080853

I would have loved to grow up as Russian gentry and to keep a nice muzhik girl on the side, go hunting, drink kvass, talk with Old Believers.

>> No.14080863

>>14080830
>aesthetics
Not the guy you're talking to, but jesus dude, way to drop from crying about how a way of life is lost to just saying "I like how the houses look". You are just a spoiled, bored little sad boy, and you know absolutely nothing about the lives of people not like yourself.

>> No.14080884
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>>14080853
>muzhik girl
Sorry, anon. But those are very modern invention.

>> No.14080923

>>14080863
Projecting. You are just revealing your own insecurities by thinking everyone is like yourself

>> No.14080967

>>14079794
cringe & yikes desu senpai

>> No.14080986
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>>14080227
Fuck that's grim

>> No.14081122

>>14080884
Peasant girls are 'very modern things?' You saw that the word resembled 'music' and made an assumption, didn't you.

>> No.14081140

>>14080830
Yes, I know, as I implied, that has nothing to do with this thread. Either way, such small towns built around a church are all over the US, minus the thatch, thatch is a lot of work when you have plenty of trees to make shingles out of. If you want the thatch, there are such communities in rural UK. This is a fairly standard layout for small towns.

>> No.14081161

Fucking tranny tripfag faggot in every single thread. Why do I get banned for inane joke posts but this waste of space gets to stick around?

>> No.14081191

Idk where else to ask this. But in Crime and Punishment, when the guy comes across a down trodden woman laying in the street, and a portly man, that he suspects is a sexual predator. What does he call him, something like a snigaguilov and what is a good approximation to it's translation to English? Something like faggot or douchebag?

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>>14081161
What was your joke, pony-fag?

>> No.14081241

>>14079759
>*the USSR had captured German scientists

>> No.14081252

>>14080227
You also have the ability connect with people across the globe, access to any type of music you want, access to any book you want, access to any film you want, healthier food, better medical care, greater understanding of the world, safer neighbourhoods, the ability to learn languages and musical instruments.
Yeah modern life is crap but I’d take it over those times any day.

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>>14079792
>>14080232
jeez mothman, you're becoming more and more unhinged every day

>> No.14081435
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>>14079348
"During her lifetime, Maria, too young to become a Red Cross nurse like her elder sisters during World War I, was patroness of a hospital and instead visited wounded soldiers. Throughout her lifetime she was noted for her interest in the lives of the soldiers. The flirtatious Maria had a number of innocent crushes on the young men she met, beginning in early childhood. She hoped to marry and have a large family."
>you will never live in a small Russian village
>you will never get to fight for the Tsar and imperial glory
>you will never be wounded and wake up in a St Petersburg hospital to find Grand Duchess Maria at your side
>You will never be Maria's girlhood crush
>You will never marry Maria in a small Orthodox church and have a large family
Why is life so cruel as to taunt me with such possibility? Its too much bros, I needed to be born in 1899.

>> No.14081468

>>14081435
>imperial glory
>>14081393
And you think I’m unhinged. This anon thinks life is a fucking Disney film

>> No.14081505

>>14078954
Soviets never went to space. Nobody has.

>> No.14082547

bump

>> No.14082553

A lot of Russia still looks like that

>> No.14082559

>>14082553
More or less, but now all the villages have a rocket pad next to the church.

>> No.14082571
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>>14081122
"Muzhik" doesn´t mean peasant. Krest´anin is peasant. "Muzhik" is diminutive of "Muzh", which means man.

"Muzhik girl" would imply transgender girl, that´s why I´m laughing at you.

>> No.14082614

I wish a muzhik girl would tug my oiled up penis and send my cum to the floor

>> No.14082742

>>14080276
Not necessarily. My family is from a little village in northern Serbia which has been a decadent shithole ever since the Yugoslav Wars. No one there gives a shit, theres no community, everyone just gossips and sleeps around, and all the young people are leaving to make it big in the West, where they never have any hope of rising above the lowest class. My cousin has been working as a maid in Cardiff for like 7 years and made no progress. What was the point in leaving? Who destroyed our homeland?

>> No.14082747

>>14078931
you must be lost
this is a literature board

>> No.14082751

>>14081252
Who cares if you're completely removed from any context in which all this art and music is even made meaningful? You can listen to Wagner during your commute, wow what's it doing for you?

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>>14082751
>historicism
oh no my dear

>> No.14082983

>>14082817
The complete opposite actually.

>> No.14083231

This fetishization of the past is cringe and also not based. Child mortality, disease, famine, war, pain and suffering are much more prevalent then.
You fucking nerds try to pull off some weak argument that comfort isn't that important, but once you've experienced mind shattering pain and illness, you know that medical advances are a blessing of our Lord. Fuck off to the African jungle city boys.

>> No.14083245

>>14079860
Have you ever been in so much pain you can only think about wanting the pain to stop? For weeks in a row? Fuck your spiritual pain you cocksucking faggot.

>> No.14083373

>>14082751
Are you serious? You think living in those peasant communities provided a more meaningful environment to experience art? Most of those people I’d venture did not know how to read; and if they did, they certainly weren’t reading at a high level. Since we mentioned music, music theory was totally inaccessible to these people and the few who played instruments didn’t play the piano or the violin but simple provincial instruments with nowhere near the level of complexity. Even if by miracle they were gifted with a superior reading comprehension, they wouldn’t have access to the great books nor would their superstitious, conservative mentality allow for the open mindedness one must have to truly appreciate art, especially experimental stuff, which is why so many artists were persecuted and censured throughout history.
So yes, a person sitting on the bus reading Shakespeare or listening to Wagner has a much firmer connection to the art he is consuming than any of these peasants would, simply because they would not have had access to that type of art in his time.
So would I rather be a peasant in those times who does naught but work and sit around getting drunk or a modern day white collar worker who at least has access to the great works of art mankind has produced? I think I’d take the latter.

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curiously, i'm russian and feel the same way for early 20th century europe. it's a touch of foreigner's ignorance that renders the past magical and dear.

>> No.14083437

>>14078941
that's pretty cool, thanks for the link anon.

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>>14081435

>> No.14083544

>>14081468
dumb commie

>> No.14083870
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>>14081435
>The first volley of gunfire killed the Tsar, the Empress and two male servants, and wounded the family's doctor and the empress' maidservant. Maria tried to escape through the doors at the rear of the room, which led to a storage area, but the doors were nailed shut. The noise as she rattled the doors attracted the attention of the drunken military commissar Peter Ermakov. A heavy layer of smoke had accumulated in the room from the gunfire and from plaster dust released from the walls by errant bullets, and the gunmen could see only the lower bodies of those who were still alive. Ermakov fired at Maria, and his bullet struck her in the thigh. She fell to the floor with Anastasia and Demidova and lay there moaning. The assassins then left the room for several minutes to let the haze clear, and when they returned they killed Dr Botkin, Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchesses Olga and Tatiana. Ermakov then turned on the wounded Maria and Anastasia, who was still unharmed. He struggled with Maria and tried to stab her with a bayonet. The jewels sewn into her clothes protected her, and he said he finally shot her in the head. But the skull that is almost certainly Maria's has no bullet wound. Perhaps the drunken Ermakov inflicted a scalp wound, knocking her unconscious and producing a considerable flow of blood, leading Ermakov to think he had killed her. He then struggled with Anastasia, whom he also claimed he shot in the head. As the bodies were being removed from the house, Maria regained consciousness and screamed. Ermakov tried to stab her again but failed, and struck her in the face until she was silent. The facial area of Maria's skull was indeed destroyed, but Yurovsky wrote that the victims' faces were shattered with rifle butts at the burial site. Though Maria unquestionably died with her family, the exact cause of her death remains a mystery.[51]

>> No.14083906

>>14083382
what are they holding?

>> No.14084929

>>14083870
they totally raped them, didn't they?

>> No.14085022

>>14079792
>Anarchism. A nice hybrid of "primitivism" and "transhumanism" branches
>modern technology, comfort and ease of life can seemingly remain the same while people live hippy lives with no factual guidance from institutions regarding the legality of actions or societal/infrastructural necessities
you wouldn't be shitposting on imageboards 24 hours a day if you were living in an anarchy, you postmenopausal mothnigger

>> No.14085048

>>14084929
They tried, Yurovsky stopped them.

>> No.14085109

>>14080448
Is this what they teach at school nowadays? That life before tv, facebook and video games was a nightmare?

I come from an eastern european country and I was lucky to have talked a lot with my great grandmother. She lived in a village without electricity or any other "perks" of modern civilization. They weren't malnourished slaves toiling in the fields.

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>>14081435
>>14083870

>> No.14085237

>>14085109
Schools do not really teach about the good times, they teach about the dark ages and the great depression so that is all they see about the common mans life in the old days. Also, many grew up idolizing people with more, so they shit on anything other and pretend they are affluent because they listen to Wagner while they are stuck in traffic on their way to sit in a cubicle for 8 hours.

>> No.14085242

>>14079792
That makes no sense. A technoindustrial civilizations necessitates indefinite growth and the conceptualization of the entire world as resources to be exploited, you can't fucking have anprim and transhumanism.

>> No.14085250

>>14081505
What's the evidence for this? I'm partial to believing we never went to the Moon, but what about space?

>> No.14085294

>>14085237
ah, if only instead of a car it was walking, and instead of a cubicle it was a factory, and instead of 5 days a week it was 6, and instead of coming home to wasting my life on the internet it was off to more doing work chopping trees, and instead of weeks of vacations per year there were none, just like it was for my grandfather
now that was living the good life

>> No.14085341

>>14085294
There are no factories in OP pic, he is clearly talking about pastoral life, not industrial life. This thread is pretty much saying that industrialization and factories were the wrong direction towards a better quality of life for society.

>> No.14085362

>>14085294
*great grandfather

>> No.14085480

Would like to see a picture of that village today but I am having no luck, it shows to be on the verge of modernity, many of those houses have metal roofs, curious to know what it looks like today. It is Kolchedan Sverdlovsk Oblast, but all I can find are picture of the surrounding country side, nothing of the village. English web is little help here, think a Russian speaker would have to hunt it down, any help? Suspect it is going to end up being a dying village, but who knows.

>> No.14085534

>>14085294
Do you know that in the medieval time, the peasanry had half the year off for vacation/feast for the saints of the day, eucharistic celebration and feast for and by the King.

But I guess your happy that your master allowed you and your wife to kill your baby in her wound.
NOW THATS progress, thank you base Master now I can kill my children and if he gets to live he will go to school and learn about prostate milking. We are so much better then those guys owning a farm with no network cellular tower on there front yard. Pff they are so ridiculous. Oh wait I got an other adds on my phone, internet, billboard, house mail to look at.

>> No.14085546

>>14085534
>your wife
where the fuck do you think you are

>> No.14085626

>>14085546
Ooh okay I see, I should of said;
>Oh great Thank you master now our woman can get abortions after they had sex 6 times this friday. So great because now she will not be unproductive and oddly obese for 9 months. Geez we save them the nightmare of raising children. Now she will go back at being desagreable, narcissistic and hysteric when she dosent have what she wants. Oh thank god I wont have to wake up at the same time has the birds with our family cock in the backyard and then go pick up fresh eggs, now I will go to bed at 4 in the morning and then get awakens by the garbage truck that makes the whole streets vibrates. This would of been a nightmare. I cant wait for SNL this where I will laught at wrong people and be inform about reality.

>> No.14085725

>>14085626
I hate desagreable women.

>> No.14085744

>>14080448
>muh tendies

>> No.14085762

>>14085534
>>14085626
Fucking Based my lad

>> No.14085811

>>14078931
i wish someone would have taught me how to build things, grow plants, deal with animals etc. can you imagine how satisfying it is to see living things respond to your work? they could easily replace sociology, psychology, economics or any of that bullshit with actual useful skills. why don't they do it?

>> No.14085817

>>14085534
based

>> No.14085825

>>14085626
>>14085534

A splendid exposition my liege. Pardon me now mylord harvesting season is here

>> No.14085826

>>14085811
because we live in a dark and evil age.

>> No.14085844

I <3 books too!

>> No.14085868

why so many cringe threads in that particular vein today

>> No.14086254

>>14083245
Yes I have. I'd rather be in pain than have no spiritual identity since the latter lasts forever

>> No.14087161
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>>14078931
>if only you knew how could things could have been

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>>14083382
This

>>14083906
I think those are their walking sticks. They wagged them around while the camera was taking the picture.

>>14085868
Cringy people use lit like a nightstand soil cloth.

>> No.14087473

>>14078931
The trick is not to accept the idea that you can't have antibiotics and computers and flush toilets without living in a crumbling, crowded mass settlement with a bunch of savages while living a completely sedentary life.

>> No.14087503

>>14085868
What is cringy in this thread, you GayL0rd?!!?!

>> No.14087507

>>14087242
You are also a GayL0rd

>> No.14087510

>>14080500
>working with no community
Make friends? Is all your family dead? Did you just abandon them or what?
>identity
Back then i suppose your identity is strict and essentially from birth—Now it is not given but made, but if one is not made for such pursuits they are bound to be listless
>no freedom in your own home
We’re all hemmed in on all sides by humanity and nature, but at least now we have pushed nature back and can choose the contents of our human enclosure

>> No.14088238

>>14078931
Cons of the Contemporary World
>Ugly art
>Ugly cars
>Ugly houses
>Ugly buildings
>Ugly people (fat)
>Rude people
>Ugly culture
>Poor literature
>Breakdown of communities
>Societal decline
>Loss of homeland

Pros of the Contemporary World
>stig mah peniz wherever I want lol
>Look wistfully at old photos whenever you want
>NINTENDO SWITCH (I LOVE my Nintendo Switch)
>Lots of headstrong independent women (YASS) [SO HOT RN]
>I CAN BE FRIENDS WITH BLACK PEOPLE
>I can rub one out watching HD porn in the toilets at WORK
>I don't feel pressured to have children (THANK GOD) [Never havin' one of those]
>Soooooooo many good superhero movies (I'm so excited)

We have it so much better now!

>> No.14088286

>>14079275
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/2x8tka/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-good-badfellas---good-thing-or-bad-thing-

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>>14088286
>jon stewart