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[Anonymous No.14055426]

is there anything he wasn't completely spot on about?

[Anonymous No.14055443]

I would have to have read him to decide

[Anonymous No.14055463]

We cannot create our own morals.

[Anonymous No.14055472]

>>14055426
Christianity.

[Anonymous No.14055491]

>>14055426
Considering that he contradicted himself on several occasions — yes and no.

[Anonymous No.14055499]

>>14055426
Let's see...
Will to power
morality
Christianity
creating meaning

That about covers it

[Anonymous No.14055502]

>>14055472
>>14055499
dumb christcucks

[Anonymous No.14055510]

He's missing a historical materialist analysis in his philosophy. While I think his psychology of the will to power is extremely accurate, his genealogical analysis of morals is shockingly inscrutable, his ideas of life denial, active/reactive forces, and his aphorisms are sometimes so salient, wise, and deep that I find myself shocked at their genius, Nietzsche is ultimately a thinker of the Bourgeois. He never really talks about the fact that he lived in a time of riches, and never really considered that man might slip back into poverty, which would ultimately reverse the process of bringing about the overman, and revive christian morals. Christian morals are for poor losers essentially, according to Nietzsche. Nietzsche failed to consider that we may forever remain poor losers.

[Anonymous No.14055518]

>>14055426
Basically everything he said about Wagner's art outside of his letters was an intentional falsehood.

[Anonymous No.14055611]

His own nationality.

[Anonymous No.14055620]

>>14055502
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.14055622]

>>14055502
>REEEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE DUMB!

[Anonymous No.14055645]

>>14055622
>>14055620
once again the Christians have nothing of value to say. Which Nietzsche texts have you read? Open up your copy of The Genealogy and show me where he goes wrong, thank you. Of course you can't because you're a member of the trendiest, cringiest, and pseudist part of the contemporary internet; 4chan Christians.

[Anonymous No.14055685]

>>14055510
>his genealogical analysis of morals is shockingly inscrutable
You really can't see how all kind of ethics and morals that appeared on the west are based on the same foundation? He did more than enough mentioning that in the twillight of idols.

>Nietzsche is ultimately a thinker of the Bourgeois
I wonder how you reached that conclusion

> Christian morals are for poor losers essentially, according to Nietzsche
All kind of morals are for plebs, christian morals was just the title morality carried during his time.

>Nietzsche failed to consider that we may forever remain poor losers
Wealth status is irrelevant to the overman

What the fuck are you doing while reading? Are you even trying to put any thought into someone's words or you just consume them like people did with Bible during mediavel times?

[Anonymous No.14055694]

>>14055645
>Christians have nothing of value to say
Why so mad? lol

[Anonymous No.14055801]

>>14055685
I am actually a dumbass, and remembered the defintion of "inscrutable" as the exact opposite meaning of what I meant. I think Nietzsche is right for the most part, he just has blind spots.

>Wealth status is irrelevant to the overman
I don't believe the overman is willed into existence simply by force, by a man who chooses to. I do not think it is possible for a man to be anything but a slave, made of reactive forces, and kept alive by his bad conscience, if his only option of survival is to be a slave. Can you imagine telling a 9th century serf to simply overcome these things? Where would that get him? Where he would be led if he made his own values, and took his will to power to its very end? Death. He had no power, and never would, power is instantiated by birth in the middle ages. It is only after man has time, strength, energy, a perpetually full stomach, and exists in a specific spirtual instance that he realizes christianity's story is no longer useful to him, that it leads him to nothing but nihilism. This is the meaning of genealogy, one thing leads to another, one thing is birthed from another. Nietzsche's Genealogy smells.. Hegelian in this sense.

Now this is why I am not so sure that the overman has nothing to do with wealth. What happens to man when he becomes again a serf? What happens when a serf understands that all morals are against life, and that he should be nothing but active forces, to listen to his will to power? Again, it is death. Because of this, this philosophy falls on deaf ears. Don't you see? Morals and eschatologies exist for use value. When man is a slave, Christianity is what is most useful, and no amount of telling this to a slave will make this not so.

It is my belief that the number of free spirits is decreasing, and the number of slaves is increasing.

[Anonymous No.14055829]

>>14055801
to continue this, what is contradictory in me, is that I am too a slave, and yet I cannot shake the realization of christian nihilism, and that the only thing meaningful to me is to live a life that I would be willing to live over and over. I believe in the overman, but I do not think he will necessarily be brought about, because I think the preaching of him falls on deaf ears, without the right material conditions, I guess.

[Anonymous No.14055877]

He took the stability and secured provided by XIXth century Germany for granted.

[Anonymous No.14056276]

>>14055463
By judging you are creating your morals, you dumbo.

[Anonymous No.14056297]

>>14056276
I guess I should have said that we cannot easily change our fundamental morals.

[Anonymous No.14056316]

>>14055801
>Actually, I am a dumbass.
what a response

[Anonymous No.14056348]

Jesus Christ every Nietzsche thread is so fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.14056663]

>>14056297
You can't just erase the impact of 2000 years of christianity. That is why the overman belongs to a yet unproven future.