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[Anonymous No.14054107]

>One must imagine Sisyphus happy

What in the actual fuck did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14054141]

>>14054107
are you stupid? he have a book about that

[Anonymous No.14054456]

I think its something about, one must give oneself meaning?

[Anonymous No.14054488]

>>14054107
Camus' way of dealing with the Absurd is weak and irrelevant.
The only man worth reading is *pic related*.

[Anonymous No.14054688]

>>14054488
“Just take the leap bro, god will take of it, why worry about?”

[Anonymous No.14054779]

>>14054107
One must fool oneself towards viscerally understanding that there's meaning/purpose in the sisyphean endeavour that's life. Even though there's no ontological meaning/purpose.

[Anonymous No.14054781]

>>14054107
How many times are you gonna post this?

[Anonymous No.14054924]

>>14054107
did you try reading the book to find out?

[Anonymous No.14054932]

Sisyphus was a dirty criminal though

[Anonymous No.14055811]

[Anonymous No.14055819]

Like has no inherent meaning, so we must decide our own meaning

[Anonymous No.14055823]

>>14054107
Sisyphus embraces the absurdity of his condition and finds joy and meaning in it.

[Anonymous No.14055825]

Isn't this all just a tacit admission that if you don't believe in God you're doomed to unhappiness, and the only way out is self-delusion?

[Anonymous No.14055851]

>>14055825

That's pretty much spot on.

[Anonymous No.14055862]

>>14055825
Believing in God is a great delusion and philosophical suicide. Embracing the absurd is not. Just read Camus ffs.

[Anonymous No.14055918]

>>14055862

>Believing in God is a great delusion and philosophical suicide. Embracing the absurd is not

But how are you embracing it if you have to IMAGINE Sysyphus happy? You are engaging in a delusion again, just that your makes no sense on no account. It provides no value and contributes nothing to your life.

That sentence of Camus was literally the white flag of defeat of existential philosophy. He latter wrote the rebel which again is a massive cope and provides nothing of value.

[Anonymous No.14055927]

>>14054107
one must imagine camus a hack

[Anonymous No.14055957]

>>14054488
>dude desperation is the relation of itself within it as it relates to itself lmao

[Anonymous No.14055959]

>>14055862
But someone who sincerely believes in God doesn't think it's self-delusion. As an atheist you may think they're deluded, but THEY don't see it that way. On the other hand, "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" DOES sound like self-delusion, since you know Sisyphus isn't actually happy and you're choosing to willfully ignore that.

[Anonymous No.14055966]

>>14055918
wtf are you talking about? The word imagine is used because you are imagining an imaginary story in a different way then you would have imagined it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.14055977]

>>14055959
Is Kierkegaard's leap of faith not exactly that? Self delusion using God to escape the absurd?

[Anonymous No.14055987]

>>14055927
#rekt

[Anonymous No.14055989]

>>14055825
The truth is yes, the problem is that once you become convinced that there is no God you can't simply choose to believe in God again, you have to face up to the God is Dead problem.

[Anonymous No.14055990]

>>14054107
Just turn your brain off, bro. Just cope

[Anonymous No.14055994]

>>14054107
Camus is underrated as fuck. He’s popular so the piss woods don’t want to appreciate him.

[Anonymous No.14055997]

>>14055927
one needn't imagine at all

[Anonymous No.14055998]

>>14055989
Religious practice eliminates that problem, yes, even if you don't believe.

[Anonymous No.14056005]

>>14055997
Ooooh!!!
Someone needs some ice for that burn!

[Anonymous No.14056010]

>>14055862
>Embracing the absurd is not.
an act of perpetual rebellion against a world that denies you that which you want most is not a reasonable course of action

[Anonymous No.14056022]

>>14055959
>since you know Sisyphus isn't actually happy and you're choosing to willfully ignore that.
we don't "know" anything about this made-up story passed down over thousands of years. A mythological story can be manipulated and viewed from as many angles as one desires as there is no objective foundational reality backing it up. We know the traditional way of looking at the story, yes, but that does not make it "true". Sisyphus is determined to reach godhood and will never allow himself to be defeated in that goal, against the harsh reality of his predicament (doomed to never quite attain it). Analogous to man, we continuously strive for immortality despite the impossibility of it. Sisyphus is happy because his never ending struggle provides never ending motivation and hope.

[Anonymous No.14056869]

>>14054107
Being eternally doomed to repeat a pointless task, one would normally imagine him in despair, but since Camus uses the fate of Sisyphus as a reflection of our own fate, he asks us to instead envision him not deluding himself out of the pointlessness of the task, but face reality, become content with his fate, and learn to enjoy doing what he does, no matter how pointless it actually is. And that is what we have to do as well.

[Anonymous No.14056901]

>>14054107

[Anonymous No.14056991]

>>14055825
Gods are everywhere and numberless, the god of going to work everyday is inside you.

[Anonymous No.14057045]

Sisyphus committing himself to happiness in his task is not the way forward.

The true way forward is to carve a bowl into the top of the mountain, leaving the rock to rest in the bowl. In doing so sisyphus has gained the upper hand on the absurd, he may now choose when and where to engage it. He has made a mockery of the Gods, and through him the pantomime profane laughs.

[Anonymous No.14058573]

>>14057045
this is actually unironically based

[Anonymous No.14058596]

>>14055825
>Isn't this all just a tacit admission that if you don't believe in God you're doomed to unhappiness
yes

[Anonymous No.14058744]

>>14055862
>Embracing the absurd is not.
>haven't read Camus
Accept the absurd is part of life ,dont embrace it