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1405242 No.1405242 [Reply] [Original]

Let's talk about this suave guy.

>> No.1405255

This thread would be all the rage 20 years ago.

>> No.1405284

>>1405255
It's still kinda in with Architecture.

>> No.1405290

>>1405255

Who would you prefer we talk about then?

>> No.1405291

>>1405242
This guy is a faggot. Go tell your English teacher to fuck himself. Postmodernism is complete faggotry. Please anon, think for yourself and don't just like this faggot piece of shit because your English teacher likes him. Faggot.

>> No.1405300

>>1405291

This is the OP, and I actually agree with you.

>> No.1405301

I have no idea who he his except for some vague shit about a book on "Il y a là cendre" being a bullshit sentence or something.

WHO IS HE.
WHAT DID HE DO.
WHY SHOULD I CARE?

I do care, anyway, though. What should I read?

>> No.1405308

>>1405291
>>1405300
>>1405255
INB4 everyone says he's bullshit and tells me not to waste my time. I'm going to fucking read whatever he's done and form my own opinion. So if you would please be so kind, just tell me who the bastard is. You don't have to, of course, but I would appreciate it very much.

>> No.1405310

>>1405291
I'm inclined to agree with this guy. I hear someone mention Derrida and think "oh, Jesus, here comes a bunch of regurgitated, mindless bullshit."

>> No.1405311

Derrida

>> No.1405332

>>1405310
It pisses me the fuck off. People only pretend to understand what this guy is saying in his texts. When they explain it to you, or you read an essay on something he supposedly said it comes out as pure obfuscation. When I was taking some English lit courses as electives we had to read this guys bullshit after we read Jameson's the logic of late capitalism. All complete fuckery. Everyone in the class, who were english majors, pretended to understand. When I asked questions all they would say is, "You have to really study what he is saying, only then will you reach understanding." Faggots and their evasive answers.

>> No.1405338

>>1405332

So are you a philosophy major?

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1405355

>>1405332
>People only pretend to understand what this guy is saying in his texts
>Everyone in the class, who were english majors, pretended to understand

>more concerned about what others think of the text than one's own grasp of it

>> No.1405361

>>1405355
That is because no one can grasp it. People only pretend to. Here is Derrida here saying that he abhors being asked to elaborate on his work because he can't elaborate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY&feature=related

>> No.1405375

Signifiers aren't stable.

Go read some Barthes instead.

>> No.1405377

>>1405355
Do you have any reading comprehension at all? The guy's response is a mere repeat of what he just said.

Stupid cock.

>> No.1405384

Derrida is crazy as shit. He's kind of cool, but don't try too hard, its like an eclipse you want to see it, but if stare you go blind.

>> No.1405385

deconstruction is such bullshit, man.

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>>1405361
>That is because no one can grasp it. People only pretend to.
>still obsessing over the relation of other people with the text instead of what one's relationship to the text is and what one can produce out of it

Never change, undergrads

>> No.1405395

if you want logical, sane and useful theory, whether philosophical or linguistic, don't waste your time with the French. Flowery, obfuscatory prose masking superficial ideas is all you'll get otherwise.

>> No.1405400

>>1405393
you're redeeming yourself

>> No.1405408

>>1405400
Don't count on this lasting.

>> No.1405418

>>1405393
Just another way of saying that you yourself don't understand and are only pretending to. There is objective truth; my relationship to the text doesn't trump what the objective truth ought to be. In the sciences there isn't this kind of obfuscation. If I don't understand an experiment, I ask, and am then given instruction on what I did wrong, and from there can improve my research skills. Your obsession with personal relationships to the text proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. Derrida doesn't even understand what he is saying that is why he hates to be questioned about what he writes because he can't elaborate on any of it; it's bullshit.

Don't ever change pretend fags.

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>>1405418
>Just another way of saying that you yourself don't understand and are only pretending to.
they're not even logically equivalent lol

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>>1405422
Keep believing in miracles, dipshit.

>> No.1405435

>>1405422
Prove that one's subjective interpretation is greater than objective truth.

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1405451

>>1405430
Keep living in the 19th century bro

>>1405435
that entire sentence is complete and utter horseshit

>> No.1405465

>>1405451
Prove that one's subjective interpretation is greater than objective truth.

You're right, subjectivity does not trump objectivity, therefore you lose, I win.

>> No.1405471

>>1405284
Not really. Architecture's gone back to Heidegger.

>> No.1405486

>>1405471
>Architecture's gone back to one philosopher
No.

>> No.1405487

>>1405465
>objective
>empirical
>ontological

Enjoy failing philosophy.

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>>1405465
That entire post is complete and utter horseshit

>> No.1405496

>>1405487
Enjoy being a faggot. Tell me, why do you like semen so much?

>> No.1405498

>>1405492
Cry more.

>> No.1405500

>>1405498
no

>> No.1405503

>>1405500
Cry more.

>> No.1405508

>>1405503
`

>> No.1405515

>>1405508
Cry more.

>> No.1405525

>>1405486
I mean it's all popular now, since Peter Zumthor's all crazy about him.

>> No.1405523

>>1405503
>>1405498
>>1405496

These are good retorts.

I don't understand why /lit/ gets in a tizzy every time Derrida is mentioned. For those actually interested in his works and ideas, just look up deconstruction, differance and the remainder for (pretty straightforward) information. Sure, his writing was annoying, but so was Joyce's, and at least Derrida was satirical and self-aware enough to realize what he was doing.

Yet Lacan is praised here. Boggles the mind.

>> No.1405530

>>1405515
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>> No.1405537

>>1405530
Kill yourself.

>> No.1405539

>>1405537
D&E is a pimp and pimps don't commit suicide!

>> No.1405540

>>1405537
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>> No.1405542

>>1405539
lol you are on a roll tonight landhedges

>> No.1405543

>>1405539
He's a talentless bore and the board always sucks more when he's on it.

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>>1405543
talentless what?!

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1405569

>>1405543
At least my posts don't give off the impression that I'm crying and drooling all over my fat naked body in an uncontrollable rage. You need to calm the fuck down.

>> No.1405571

>>1405569
Too much information D&E... too much information.

>> No.1405574

>>1405543
> talentless bore
> 4chan, image board created for and by trolls
> throws a hissy fit of epic proportions when someone is good at trolling
lol wut

>> No.1405576

Don't they?