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[Anonymous No.14021538]

>When you do LSD once

[Anonymous No.14021867]

>retroactively writes Deleuze

[Anonymous No.14021895]

Oh fuck off. Process Philosophy is a failed movement that resulted in some cringe new age shit comprised of a couple hippies such as Cobb and Griffin.

[Anonymous No.14021920]

>>14021538
Idk but pretty sure it was memed in Mad Men, don't remember tho

[Anonymous No.14021928]

>>14021895
Process philosophy starts with Heraclitus, and anyway all philosophical movements, without exception, are cringe.

[Anonymous No.14021968]

>>14021895
>Inspired Deleuze
>Inspired Prigogine
>Inspired Isabelle Stengers
>Currently being researched in China being paired with Marxism, ecological studies, and Eastern traditions
>Also has application to art, physics, biology, education, psychology, economics
>Did Speculative Realism the best
The process philosophy movement is just getting rolling fren. I do agree with you that process theology is cringe though. Whiteheadian naturalism should be looked at apart from theological concerns.

[Anonymous No.14021983]

>>14021968
>Deleuze
Relatively unknown outside of accelerationist tranny discords.
>>Inspired Prigogine
>>Inspired Isabelle Stengers
Literal whos

[Anonymous No.14022003]

>>14021983
Deleuze is taught at every philosophy and art university in europe

[Anonymous No.14022004]

>>14021983
Deleuze is one of the most cited thinkers. Prigogine is a nobel laureate and Stengers did work with him.

[Anonymous No.14022007]

>>14021983
Once Deleuze and Whitehead pick up analytic traction it's all over...

[Anonymous No.14022028]

Dao De Jing Philosophical Translation is based processism

[Anonymous No.14022114]

>>14022028
How good is that translation? I've been thinking of buying it because one of the translatiors is a Whitehead scholar.

[Anonymous No.14022156]

>>14022114
its garbage, Taoism is not process philosophy

[Anonymous No.14022186]

>>14022028
>>14022114
>>14022156
If you’re looking for a more poetic translation: see Feng.
If you’re looking for a more concrete translation: see Mitchell.

[Anonymous No.14022255]

>>14022186
I am mostly just interested in Whitehead. Is the Whitehead scholar's translation worth reading or nah?

[Anonymous No.14022265]

>>14022255
I don’t know, all I can say is that Dao De Ching itself is definitely worth reading.

[Anonymous No.14022271]

>>14022114
It's an interesting reinterpretation. Like kojeve on hegel. Doesn't creativity thrive on misunderstanding? Anxiety of influence et al?

[Anonymous No.14022293]

>>14022186
>concrete
>Mitchell
Guy's a poet but just reads translations himself...

I recimmend the arkana english translation of richard wilhelm best myself.

[Anonymous No.14022295]

Can someone someone summarize "process philosophy"?

I've read Hegel, Tao and Budhism and I kind of see some kind of connection among them but I can't really seem to "get it right". Is it something along these lines?

[Anonymous No.14022302]

>>14022295
Yes. Maybe add tantra and yoga and heraclitus, parmenides, and empedocles

[Anonymous No.14022303]

>>14021983
Even Anglo love to misuse Deleuze. My sister went to art school in London, she told me she was baffled at how people would just quote his name in any random situation.
"Deleuze says eating fries make you fat" is how she put it. Any banality will do as long as they can put the name of Deleuze on it.

[Anonymous No.14022312]

>>14021983
>deleuze
>literally the king of social sciences
Who are you sweaty? Post degree

[Anonymous No.14022406]

>>14022295
I have just the perfect book for you to read
>>14021538

[Anonymous No.14022409]

>>14021968
>popular in the newage community
>inspired my mum's palmist
>was retroactively refuted by Parmenides

[Anonymous No.14022411]

>>14022409
>guenonfag seething at his irrelevance
Lol

[Anonymous No.14022446]

>>14022303
That's what she gets for going to art school

[Anonymous No.14022456]

>>14022411
>Supposedly irrelevant thinker living rent free in whiteheadfag's head
Kek

[Anonymous No.14022464]

>>14022456
Guenon is actually great. Whitehead and Deleuze too. I just believe in more autoinitiation and a golden age in the future not past (what's the difference if history is cyclical?)

[Anonymous No.14022859]

Bump

[Anonymous No.14024091]

So is he just a less cucked anglo deleuze? might have to be my next read.

[Anonymous No.14024155]

>>14024091
More cucked anglo Deleuze if anything. The guy isn't taken seriously outside of the new age community, whereas Deleuze is one of the most cited thinkers in history

[Anonymous No.14024512]

>>14021538
Is this the same Whitehead who cowrote the Principia? How do you go from mathematical logic to New Age bullshit?

[Anonymous No.14024828]

>>14024512
People calling his philosophy "new age bullshit" don't have a clue.

Read Process and Reality yourself and you will see very clearly the set theoretic connotations. I was memed into reading it not knowing who Whitehead was and I instantly guessed he was either a physicist or a mathematician.

[Anonymous No.14025089]

>>14021920

[Anonymous No.14025423]

>>14024828
thats the appeal of it. new age peddlers can still be their usual selves while pretending they can dismiss the scientific study because 'whitehead said so'. its the usual deflection when stem types make fun of them or they know deep down how they need more stem proficiency in ther lot. im not downplaying him though, i think hes an important thinker.

[Anonymous No.14025442]

>>14022456
Loving this battle between guenonfags and whiteheadfags. Bringing out the memes.

[Anonymous No.14027074]

>>14021983
wut

[Anonymous No.14027105]

>>14025423
Aside from the god nonsense his ontology is pretty neat. Atheists appropriated hegel, why not whitehead?

[Anonymous No.14027163]

>>14022295
It’s basically exactly what it sounds like. Philosophy which focuses more on processes, flux, change, evolution than objects, unchanging selves or natures or qualities etc. It’s more of a thread running throughout the history of thought both Western and Eastern, this thread being classified and given a name by Western philosophers for their own convenience. It can even blind you to the way in which process-thinking is mixed by some thinkers with the “opposite” (or rather complementary) view which is more “common-sense”.

[Anonymous No.14027288]

>>14027105
his whole project is revitalizing god in the analytic. hes no hegel, who spawned all kinds of categories

[Anonymous No.14027470]

>>14024828
>People calling his philosophy "new age bullshit" don't have a clue.
This is on of the most prominent Whitehead scholars https://youtu.be/o6Gf5Q6EwOo

[Anonymous No.14027507]

>>14027470
So he's just a Teilhard blowhard?