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14009261 No.14009261 [Reply] [Original]

What did you expect?

>> No.14009268

>>14009261
How do I avoid leading a life like stoner?

>> No.14009281

Less misogyny

>> No.14009289

I expected the thot he was fucking to be more upset. she just didn't care like stoner was a dildo

>> No.14009295

>>14009261
A tragedy. I think the beauty of Stoner is he isnt really pathetic, he doesn't invoke pity, he is tragic because his desire and want runs up against a fate which cannot measure up.

>>14009268
Don't half-will things. While I do believe Stoner wasn't a pathetic man, and a lot of his tragedy is a result of being in a pathetic culture and around pathetic people, but he is also characterized by a passivity.

>> No.14009334

>>14009268
be willing to sacrifice your integrity and the one thing you love. Be untrue to yourself, be the modern man. jump between profitable opportunities as they appear, loyalty is not in your vocabulary.

>> No.14009729

>>14009268
His main fuck ups were
>marrying the first woman he saw, far too quickly as well
>staying at the univeristy, things really went to shit after the cripple took power and he should've immediately gone elsewhere. Though he was mostly tied to his house that his wife (main problem) had him take out a huge loan on, so he couldn't up and leave
>not putting his foot down with his daughter. He should've taken charge of the relationship and fathered her like he always wanted to. His wife already hated him and that point and he was the breadwinner so it's not like she could do shit if he ran things the way he saw fit

>> No.14009734

>>14009334
This guy gets it

>> No.14009833

>>14009268
Might sound like a meme answer but learn to be more assertive