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Anyone here read Neuromancer? What are your thoughts /lit/? I liked the almost alien feel of the future, the whole novel really confusing you with its language and style. It's certainly interesting how influential Neuromancer actually is, coining words like cyberspace and the matrix, predicting the prevalence of mega corporations and the internet. I actually only came across it because it was mentioned in the blurb of my edition of Dune, boasting that Dune had come before it. Overall it really is a terrific book, and one that I wish I'd read earlier.

>> No.13973107

trashy as hell

>> No.13973222

>>13972893
I liked the idea of transcendence/slavery proposed by cyberspace. The way that Case and the MC use their corporeal form as just a vessel for their real self, their soul.

>> No.13973498

>>13972893
is english not your native language? thats the only way I can see someone finding it difficult, but either way english is not my native language and I found it incredibly easy to read. Not trying to rag on you, just dont see how the language was difficult, what was so hard about it for you?

>> No.13973694

I liked the parts with the Neuromancer AI, most interesting by far

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>>13973498
Don't be a cunt, friend. I tried to read it at sixteen or so and struggled with it despite enjoying it, and I read Dune younger; maybe OP is just a new reader. I get the "muh ur retarded for not getting gravity's rainbow" stuff but it's not nice to try to shoot down earnest novice readers. Neuromancer definitely doesn't do any handholding in terms of explaining the setting or the words used to describe it.

>> No.13973910

I liked the first half better than the second. Second felt like a let down. There's all the hype building. Case gets new implants so that he can jack in, they go and break the box out so that they have 2 super hackers on the team
But then it gets gay
>they freeze themselves cause they wanna be like wasps
>you know that time you saw a wasp nest? Yeah they wanna be like that
And the final "heist" or whatever you wanna call it is a let down.
AI just wants to take down other AI
Not a fan of it

>> No.13974626

>>13973498
Gibson's writing style can be weird bc he has ADHD or something

>> No.13974710

Youll likely be very confused by the beginning "WTF ARE THESE NIGGERS TALKING ABOUT" Catch on by the middle and be like huh this aint so bad, then realize its trash by the end

>> No.13975310

Absolutely unbearable; it makes you want to roll your eyes every other sentence.

>> No.13975351

>>13973741
>it's not nice to try to shoot down earnest novice readers
It may not be nice but aficionados of actual literature will do ourselves a favor drawing a line between ourselves and the anime weeb gamer types who drift into spaces like this looking for low art fantasy garbage.

>> No.13975352

>>13972893
No. No one here has read Neuromancer.

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>>13975351
baste weaboo & dilletante slayer
>>13973910
samefag. Enjoyed Accelerando more

>> No.13976005

Could anyone here recommend me some Sci-fi as someone who didn't really care for Gibson very much but loved Neal Stephenson and Bruce Sterling? I want more cyberpunk but most of it is just copycat of that Gibson style that I don't care for very much. Like I tried Altered Carbon and it was too gibson-like for me. I want something with world building like Stephenson.

>> No.13976016

>>13975351
Dune and Neuromancer are perfectly respectable starter books for working up to more serious reading.

>> No.13976021

Cool for basically creating the genre and coining a lot of terms kind of drags on though and goes into detail to a flaw at times.

>> No.13976045

>>13976016
Not if you are an adult.

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>>13976045
>starting reading in adulthood

>> No.13976103

>>13976005
Anathem and the Diamond Age r nice

>> No.13976114

>>13976103
Yeah but that is what I mean, the only things that are Stephenson-like are more Stephenson. I want something else I've read most of what he has written already.

>> No.13977502

>>13972893
Who is the other SciFi author who looks like Gibson?

>> No.13977617

>>13975351
It's better than arguing about Nietzsche, Hegel, and the other 5 pretentious philosphers and authors on this board all day.

>> No.13977659

this book contains tools for self induced schizophrenia and thus i highly reccomend it
fuck you
you too

>> No.13977662

>>13974626
I agree, it's not hard per se, but it definitely has some jank to it.

>> No.13978838

bump

>> No.13978841

>>13972893
I dropped it during the first sex scene, too tacky for my taste.

>> No.13978885

One of my favourite books of all time. I fucking loved how he explored the borders of what constitutes consciousness, what is an autonomous mind etc., while leaving it up to the reader to make decisions about what "counts" as sentient, what "counts" as having an important degree or form of self-awareness.

One of my favourite moments in scifi, actually fiction altogether, is still the Dixie Flatline's laughter giving Case an uncanny sensation, or when Case outright asks the Flatline if it's sentient and it responds with something like "that's one of your.. philosophical questions, ain't it?" You can tell "he" wants to know too, he's not dismissing the question. The whole point is that it's ambiguous. We're not faced with potential answers, we're faced with a crisis of general ambiguity, as things LIKE the Dixie Flatline, the AIs, and all kinds of human-machine hybrids continue to be created, and the conventional boundaries we take for granted start to blur and break down. The characters themselves can only shrug at it and express their anxiety fatalistically, then go back to being complacent out of sheer habit, because of how overwhelming the social/moral problems of this "new world" are and how powerless individual people are to do confront them.

>> No.13978923

>>13978885
Huh. That's actually really interesting. I always knew the ambiguity was an integral part of the whole novel, really giving an outsider a view of the world, but not to that extent. So everyone, even the characters themselves are strangers to this weird and menacing world?

>> No.13979394

>>13973498
This is actually a common issue many have with Neuromancer. It's not the language so much, but that Gibson's way of world building assumes the reader is already familiar with the future world. You have to infer a lot of stuff about the world because he doesn't do a lot of expository hand holding.

>> No.13979413

>>13972893
i wanted to borrow it from the library. I'm checking the catalogue and it says

>borrowed. Date of return 2010-03-13

LMAOOOO

>> No.13979885

>>13972893
Its one of my favourite books. This board hates it though, since it doesn't have 200 pages long whaling descriptions, like the novel pseuds adore