/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13971199]

What are some good books that teach you social skills/ how to connect with people? I tried How to win friends and influence people but it was a meme.

[Anonymous No.13971211]

>>13971199
die motherfucker

[Anonymous No.13971298]

>>13971199
No books can teach you social skills from my experience.

[Anonymous No.13971318]

>>13971298
I wish this wasn’t the truth, but if you lack the innate ability to read other people and operate on some instinctual level that jives with the social expectations of whomever you’re interacting with, you’ll never make it. I struggle with this still to this day, although by frequently going out to the bars I have been able to improve somewhat. Personally, I believe it’s all a matter of whether or not you find other people valuable and interesting. If you don’t, all the worse for you because you won’t be able to find something that connects with the other person which allows you to build a relationship.

[Anonymous No.13971330]

>>13971199
How the hell does that hinder her from applying to university? She just wanted to ruin this kids life because of a minor inconvenience

[Anonymous No.13971359]

>>13971330
This is what women do when they’re allotted this kind of freedom.

[Anonymous No.13971360]

>>13971199
He's pretty handsome. What a shame.

[Anonymous No.13971374]

>>13971199
>men harass and sexually intimidate women for centuries, knowing full well women have no rights and can't do shit about it
>women begin to get rights, men can no longer sexually assault them without consequences
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS GENOCIDE
When is it ever appropriate to randomly touch another guy who's a stranger?

it isn't.

and yet you expect women to be fine with it. but I'm just wasting my breath. you all probably sit in your rooms all day reading Guenon and researching how Hitler was actually trying to save the world.

[Anonymous No.13971376]

>>13971360
Goes to show that female attraction is not based solely on the male's physical look, as opposed to what some of these incels think.

[Anonymous No.13971385]

>>13971374
>

[Anonymous No.13971389]

>>13971374
>When is it ever appropriate to randomly touch another guy who's a stranger?
I do this all the time to both men and women to make them move in public. I tap them on the shoulder

[Anonymous No.13971397]

>>13971374
>men harass and sexually intimidate women for centuries, knowing full well women have no rights and can't do shit about it
source, please. Otherwise you’re just spreading feminist bullshit and propaganda like the roastie you are.

>Tick tock, ride those cocks, roasties time will come.

[Anonymous No.13971400]

>>13971374
Send him to the chair honestly, what a sick fuck.

[Anonymous No.13971410]

>>13971374
he's obviously socially miscalibrated, I don't buy the idea he was trying to do anything sexual

>he intended to touch her breast area

sounds like he touched her on the arm because he read something online and because of his anxiety he did it clumsily
it's strange to touch someone on the arm immediately but you're reading too much into it

[Anonymous No.13971421]

>>13971330
From the article

It was quite a while - three to five seconds. He smirked at me, he didn't stop he just touched me and walked off and I broke down crying - it was quite traumatic.

'I struggled for a couple of months afterwards, I was applying for Oxford at the time and I found going to Oxford a stressful thing.

'It just makes everything a little bit scarier - if there is a guy walking towards me by himself I start to panic. It was more shocking that someone thought they had the right to touch me as I walked down the street.'

[Anonymous No.13971438]

>>13971199
How to Win Friends and Influence People is a dumb book, should have been a pamphlet, but the one piece of advice it has is golden. Just start asking people questions about themselves, literally all you have to do. Anyone, absolutely anyone, is happy to go on and on about themselves. Nice shoes--where did you get them? What did you think of <insert current event>? Dumb stuff like that, you know, that's all it takes. At the end of the day you do need to have a certain level of confidence and charisma but the only way to get that is experience and the best way to get experience is to do what Carnegie says.

[Anonymous No.13971442]

>>13971421
Women should be kept at home away from men who aren't their husbands to prevent this kind of thing

[Anonymous No.13971456]

>>13971421
Link to article?

[Anonymous No.13971463]

>>13971374
There's this one middle aged lady at work who pokes my chest and touches my arms sometimes. I wish someone closer to my own age would sexually harass me, that would be based.

[Anonymous No.13971465]

>>13971421
Am I alone in thinking she wasn't university material with that level of fragility.

>>13971374
I don't get what the past has to do with ruining a kid's life. I do agree that it is inappropriate behavior but not at that level.

[haveadd No.13971470]

https://socialpronow.com/blog/books-improve-social-skills/

here's a good article to start

[Anonymous No.13971476]

>>13971421
shit like this makes me think we need to go back to a pre-agricultural state

[Anonymous No.13971485]

>>13971456
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7557947/Shy-awkward-student-19-faces-JAIL-sex-assault-conviction.html

[Anonymous No.13971496]

>>13971199
Books will help minimally. Go out and practice constantly.

[Anonymous No.13971503]

>>13971463
>I wish someone closer to my own age would sexually harass me, that would be based.
That should be a banner.

[Anonymous No.13971505]

>NOOOOOOO I FAILED TO ENTER OXFORD BECAUSE SOME AWKWARD GUY BARELY TOUCHED ME ONCE

[Anonymous No.13971513]

BASED Jamie

[Anonymous No.13971532]

>>13971199
Maybe check out some books on salesmanship. Also. develop an interest, as a spectator, in sports, enough so that you can hold a converation about them.

[Anonymous No.13971577]

>>13971485
Damn I guess things could be worse for me.

[Anonymous No.13971608]

Start with The Fine Art of Small Talk by Debra Fine. Later read How To Be A Gentleman by Bridges. A lot of those situations probably won't come up for you but it has underlying ideas of courtesy and consideration in social settings

[Anonymous No.13971756]

>>13971421
Imagine being a caveman and this ends up being your daughter. Your son is celebrated around the village for single-handedly warding off a bear. Your other daughter is admired for chasing off a wolf that tried to snatch her baby. Then there's your youngest child. Who cried at the age of seventeen because the tribe's idiot awkwardly put his arm around her.

It's cute, in a way. Like a little baby seal that needs protecting, but also sad, because what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.13971759]

>>13971756
>the tribe's idiot
lmao. I wonder how they dealt with these characters

[Anonymous No.13971770]

>>13971421
Hopefully she rots in hell

[Anonymous No.13971825]

>>13971199
lol nice hair faggot

[Anonymous No.13971845]

>>13971410
This is a pua thing. Like you touch people on the arm to show them you're confident comfortable and warm. It's bullshit, but some confident mostly gay people do so this. If he wanted to touch her breast why would he not just touch her breast? And why the same girl twice if it was sexual?

[Anonymous No.13971850]

>>13971421
This is the result of codling women.

[Anonymous No.13971880]

>>13971845
>socially miscalibrated
bro leave him alone he will die/become gay on his milky own terms

[Anonymous No.13971891]

>>13971374
>When is it ever appropriate to randomly touch another guy who's a stranger?
Literally all the fucking time. A hand on the shoulder, a light tap on the arm, etc. etc. body contact is a natural part of human socialization and the doctrine that touching someone on the arm somehow constitutes a sexual assault is not only unjust, its inhuman.

[Anonymous No.13971932]

>>13971199
There's no book that can replace the years of implicit learning normal people receive from a lifetime of socializing, sorry anon

[Anonymous No.13972046]

>>13971932
DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.13972054]

>>13971891
People at work touch each other all the time. Some people do it when they just meet as a friendly gesture. It's literally in pua garbage only autist can't slap each others arm and ass for lols around the office.

[Anonymous No.13972086]

>>13971199
Poor guy.

[Anonymous No.13972127]

>>13972086
If he didn't want to go to jail, he shouldn't have touched her arm. /s

[Anonymous No.13972141]

>>13972127
but she touched my arm

[Anonymous No.13972186]

>>13971438
seconding this. I used to be somewhat awkward but i'm at the very least passable now. One thing I have learned is just ask people a fuckton of questions about themselves and while they're answering you should be half-listening and half-thinking of another semi-related question to ask them when they're done, and maybe throw in a couple of statements like 'hmmmm....that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that before. i used to think xxxxxxxx but you have a good way of putting it. [insert next question]'. Doing this let's them know a bit about yourself as well. i've held conversations for 30+ minutes just doing this. if the're a good conversationalist they'll ask you about stuff too.the more practice you get the better you become.

[Anonymous No.13972195]

>>13972186
Only problem with this for me is listening to people go on and on is boring af even when I care about the person
I have two close friends and a little brother who tend to rant for minutes at a time and it makes me want to blow my brains out, I can't imagine sitting there pretending to care about what some dumb normie has to say about shoes

[Anonymous No.13972197]

>>13971199
The Bible. It will teach you the most important of all social skills: how to help others and dedicate yourself to the service of others, not for recognition, nor for prize, but for the joy of honoring the divinity of Christ in others. By being humble, kind, and willing to help, you will have a true social life, and not the kind of narcissistic dead-end of dread that most call friendship these days.

[Anonymous No.13972202]

>>13971199
>maximum of 10 years in jail
wew

[Anonymous No.13972212]

>>13971199
Too bad he wasn't gay. He'd be taken care of.

[Anonymous No.13972255]

>>13971421
Islam is right about women.

[Anonymous No.13972257]

>>13972195
This. I’ve tried that and get bored to tears. I usually just wait for the other person to talk or take out a book

[Anonymous No.13972264]

>>13971756
cavemen didn't live in villages

[Anonymous No.13972267]

>>13972264
>his ancestors didn't know about the cave villages
how embarrassing

[Anonymous No.13972309]

>>13971421
>women are simultaneously fragile flowers who need coverture laws but also fully capable of anything a man is and won't be patronised to

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.13972329]

>>13971199
>how to connect with people?
You're already doing it

This is the 21st century, now meatspace is for people who can't handle real life.

[Anonymous No.13972430]

>>13972329
Shitposting on the internet is more like shouting into the void than actually connecting with someone imo.

[Anonymous No.13972464]

>>13972430
NOOO!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! FRENS ARE REAL FRENS!!! FRENSHIP IS A REAL THING!!!

[Anonymous No.13973130]

>>13971199
Women getting beaten daily is best for everyone, prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.13973143]

>>13971438
>Anyone, absolutely anyone, is happy to go on and on about themselves.
I hate this with a passion. I've been to Japan this September and I already dread having my extended family ask me questions about it when I see them during Christmas.

[Anonymous No.13973158]

>>13971532
But only a surface interest, that's important. Back when I used to be into sports seriously, I couldn't stand conversing about it with average people because their knowledge and understanding is usually very limited and superficial. Nowadays I don't really care anymore and I'm able to talk about casually with normal people.

[Anonymous No.13973246]

>>13971421
I've been touched like that by homos.

It's no big deal.

And I live in Brazil, a country where violence and killing are way above what Europeans would even begin to consider normal in a war zone.

[Anonymous No.13973406]

>>13971199
The girl unironically did nothing wrong in this context.

Who touches a person’s waist during a platonic interaction? You’d have to be literally retarded to think that was acceptable. It makes sense the guy would get a slap on the wrist for this.

And before anyone mentions he was socially inept, even those who can’t into social img are capable of observing the most basic of social cues— Everyone knows touching the waist is an intimate act.

[Anonymous No.13973465]

>>13973406
>Everyone knows touching the waist is an intimate act
This is why I put little pants on the legs of my chairs, tables, etc. The sight of all that obscenely naked wood is an open invitation to illicit and immoral sexual congress of all sorts.

[Anonymous No.13973584]

>>13971463
Middle aged women are the worst for sexual harassment, particularly verbal.

[Anonymous No.13973670]

>>13973406
his "i just wanted friends!" act is obvious bullshit, he doesn't come off as anywhere near autistic enough to actually believe that silently touching a minor in the street is a way to make friends. he's a classic sex pest in training - they start small and every time they get away with it they escalate. if she didn't report it he would have kept going and soon enough instead of stalking a teenager to grope her waist he'd be dragging a kid off of a playground to shove his dick into its mouth. i pity anyone with a brain so weak that cheap tabloid spin can prevent them from smelling raw degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.13973759]

>>13972127
>using /s at the end of a phrase
Why do Redditors do this? It's cringe as fuck. We can argue if abuse of sarcasm is ridiculous (which I think I it is, because adds nothing to a serious conversation), but the fact that you have to tell it's sarcasm is straight BRAIN DEAD RETARDED: It's like you say a "bad thing" to be le epic trole but then you pussy out because you fear to get downvoted. For example, the Redditor says, in a snarky, effeminate fashion:
>yeah im a gamer I hate women and PoC
But then he adds the /s like if he was saying:
>lol its joke haha I love minorities based trannies ;)
It's beyond pathetic. The worst thing is that implies redditors NEED a sign telling them it's a joke. They LITERALLY would ban him for "wrongspeech" because they are a fucking idiotic NPC hivemind that can't understand sarcasm. Fucking hell, I got angry just writing this shit for 2 or 3 (You)s
TLDR: fuck redditors and fuck sarcasm and fuck the birch in OP's article
Goodbye

[Anonymous No.13973770]

>>13972329
My man - I'm in chapter 4

[Anonymous No.13973823]

>>13971421
She didn't have a special room to cool off?
>>13971465
>Am I alone in thinking she wasn't university material with that level of fragility.
Have you been living in a cave?

[Anonymous No.13973840]

>>13971891
>>13972054
>be male
>was bullied back in the day
>instintively put my guard or back off whenever someone intends to touch me without warning

This shit is so cringe, fuck.

[Anonymous No.13973857]

>>13973143
You may not like answering certain personal questions like "Do you have a girlfriend yet?" since they're embarrassing to answer, but if they started showing interest in your anime hobby you know you'd open up.

[Anonymous No.13973881]

>>13971374
Even if it's not appropriate in this particular context, does it warrant a jail conviction as a sex offender?

[Anonymous No.13973882]

>>13973406
>10 years in jail max and life ruined whenever an employer or acquaitance googles his name
>slap on the wrist
Yeah, I wonder what you call death penalty if that's a slap on the wrist.

[Anonymous No.13973894]

>>13971374
>Hitler was actually trying to save the world.
It's funny because it's true.

Dilate

[Anonymous No.13973900]

>>13973670
>they start small and every time they get away with it they escalate
So very, very true. Three seconds of supposedly “innocent” touching, if left unchecked, will surely lead to the direst of consequences. I would not at all be surprised if this Griffiths pervert graduated to pillaging and raping entire villages before his twentieth birthday. Ten years in gaol is hardly enough for him; he should be castrated and deported to Africa upon his release.

[Anonymous No.13973904]

>>13971374
>When is it ever appropriate to randomly touch another guy who's a stranger?
Does anyone on the planet who isn’t a soulless Anglo or Nordcuck honestly think this

[Anonymous No.13973908]

>>13973894
Go back to your containment board

[Anonymous No.13973914]

>>13973406
see
>>13973882
He faces up to 10 years in jail, and will go on the sex offenders register meaning he'll basically never be employed again. Their was a statement from the court already showing a guilty verdict and about they didn't buy his story (i.e. he is going to get convicted).

[Anonymous No.13973921]

>>13973914
*about how they didn't buy

[Anonymous No.13973940]

>>13973904
>Does anyone on the planet who isn’t a soulless Anglo or Nordcuck honestly think this
All right-thinking people do. At the very minimum he should have had her sign a consent form — and have it notarized — before placing his filthy finger on her arm.

[Anonymous No.13973951]

>>13971199
Lmao Britain’s right wing tabloid newspapers are worthless rags, and you retards are buying into this shit. Most likely this kid was stalking a girl (said he tried to engage with her more than once), she was obviously afraid because she burst into tears, and he attempted to feel her up. Of course this wouldn’t make a good story for our tabloid friends, so they spun it into a SJWS GONE INSANE story like they always do.

[Anonymous No.13973961]

>>13971330
She didn't make it into university and wants to leverage this to enter Oxford. It's quite apparent.

[Anonymous No.13973997]

>>13973951

[Anonymous No.13974042]

>>13973908
Only if you go to yours, you can choose two depending if you are a biological woman or not.
>>>/cgl/
>>>/lgbt/

Deal?

[Anonymous No.13974056]

>>13973951
>Hm, I don't like the content of this, it must be playing it down
>In reality it happened like *starts imagining a boogeyman fanfic with no basis in reality*

Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13974087]

>>13973951
The Mirror is left wing, you moron. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/student-who-searched-how-make-20555360

[Anonymous No.13974106]

>>13974087
OP is the Daily mail though

[Anonymous No.13974116]

>>13973951
incels just want justification for their loneliness so they search up any obscure article and make a mountain out of a mole hill

[Anonymous No.13974117]

>>13971374
Good bait

[Anonymous No.13974184]

>>13973882
>>13973914
The point is that he probably knew exactly what he was doing. You’d have to be genuinely mentally retarded to think doing that is an acceptable way to make friends. And if he was mentally retarded, then he would either receive a lenient sentence or he wouldn’t have been convicted in the first place.

I don’t doubt the guy was probably lonely, but doing something like this is like trying to prove your strength by murdering someone. There are going to be consequences. What no one is really asking is why this guy felt so lonely in the first place and how that can be solved to prevent incidents like this from happening.

[Anonymous No.13974201]

>>13974184
>doing something like this is like trying to prove your strength by murdering someone
Touching someone on the arm is the same as murdering them? The genuinely mentally retarded person is you.

[Anonymous No.13974223]

>>13974184
>all this cope so it can seem acceptable to go 10 years to jail for touching someone's arm

[Anonymous No.13974245]

>>13974184
The problem is that overzealous courts treat touching someone else AT ALL as assault, it's another dumb zero tolerance style of thinking that breeds injustice.

[Anonymous No.13974263]

>>13974184
obviously he made a social gaffe, but you really think this sentencing is commensurate with his 'crime'? like the other anon said, he's a pariah now - nobody will want to associate with him, nor will he ever be able to get any decent job. his life might as well be over because he made a little mistake and touched some girl in a completely non-sexual way.

[Anonymous No.13974284]

>>13974184
>The point is that he probably knew exactly what he was doing.
This is the point you braindead animal ape, he knew nothing of what he was doing. His incapability and social retardedness is the cause of this event.

[Anonymous No.13974287]

>>13971438
This advice helps with keeping the conversation going undoubtedly but it falls short in getting people to be interested in YOU. That takes a certain level of charisma which is hard to consciously create in yourself wholesale.

[Anonymous No.13974631]

>>13974284
It's suspicious that he apparently only approached her specifically although there were weeks between the two occasions.

[Anonymous No.13974642]

>>13974631
he's a shy autist. Even supposing he had intended to be weird, how the fuck should this be a higher sentence than purposefully punching someone

[Anonymous No.13974655]

>>13974631
>People don't have routines.

[Anonymous No.13974662]

>>13974642
He's a shy autist no doubt and the sentencing is disproportionate but I don't buy it that he was "just trying to make friends" and that it was just by chance that it was her two times. Probably had a crush on the girl and tried to approach her this way.

[Anonymous No.13974677]

>>13974662
>Ask girl out
>10 years in jail
>Stigmatised forever

[Anonymous No.13974684]

>>13974662
Ok what amount of jail time do you think makes sense for this guy? Do you think he is a threat to the public

[Anonymous No.13974702]

>>13971374
You dry up every pussy in the world

[Anonymous No.13974708]

>>13974684
Some kind of restraining order and no jail time probably

[Anonymous No.13975383]

>>13974287
Did you read the last sentence of my comment