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Pessoa Wed Oct 9 17:03:40 2019 No.13964270 [Reply] [Original]

After you go through Nabokov, every other russian writer will seem stale, especially Dostoyevky. You might even come back to Tolstoy; but Dosto will just seem like drivel-like melodramatic crap afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:13:21 2019 No.13964580 nope

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:50:54 2019 No.13964724 >>13964270 False

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:08:57 2019 No.13964801 >>13964270 Not really. Nabokov is plastic and cold. Dosto has some truly raw energy which Nabokov could never achieve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:13:43 2019 No.13964821 >>13964801 You must be insane to think this. Absolutely insane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:19:37 2019 No.13964848 >>13964270 I've only read Lolita, really good. Have GLORY and it was too difficult to read. And recommendations?

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:21:04 2019 No.13964857

Never understood the meme about Nabokov being cold and soulless -- people should read Pnin, Speak Memory and Ada if they think that, yes the man liked to play games and tricks on readers and critics, but he does have a genuine appreciation for the world, people, art, etc. Seems like most just read that page where he trashes on other writers they like, which by the way is a quite misleading page, it just cribs from Strong Opinions his passing comments on writers as promoted by interviewers. Read lectures on literature and Russian literature if you want his actual thoughts. And of course nothing at all prevents anyone from liking Dostoevsky and Nabokov bizarre how there's this false dichotomy between them on this board.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:32:24 2019 No.13964905
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>>13964270
Nabokov is one of the most pretentious writers to ever have written in the English language. One gets the sense that he wrote with a dictionary open, slowly intermingling random words into every single sentence, words that were zany, rare, or antiquated, all just to look like he was much smarter than he really was. Oh, and he just had to include paragraphs of French. As someone fluent in French, I was disgusted by his repulsive desire to display to Americans that he knew French, to brandish French to a nation that doesn't know any French, knowing his American audience wouldn't understand the pages of poorly written garbage that he wrote in the language, except for the sparse francophiles that chanced upon his child-rape hit novel. That is the epitome of pseudery. Nabokov is the type of writer that leaves an educated man nonplussed at the fact that his embarrassingly pretentious, chi-chi smut has somehow passed for literature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:50:04 2019 No.13964998 File: 10 KB, 251x242, images - 2019-10-09T184932.434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13964905 >chi-chi smut

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:54:12 2019 No.13965026 >Nabokov, Vladimir. Overwritten Latinate prose, flaccid-cock fantasies, failed pseudo-aesthetic attempts. Plastic and soulless. Dislike him intensely.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:01:44 2019 No.13965074 >>13964905 imagine being this wrong lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:03:45 2019 No.13965088 >>13964270 >he hasn't read bely

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:04:50 2019 No.13965092 >>13964905 I like Lolita but this post is still incredibly based

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:05:35 2019 No.13965095 [DELETED]

>>13965074
Imagine not having an argument and just repeating the first meme words that pop up into your head since your mind has been colonized by 4chan-speak. Sorry you're so mediocre, buddy! Maybe next you can actually think up a refutation of my statements instead of just being a lazy ironybro. >"lmao"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:47:00 2019 No.13965309 >>13964905 The irony of this post is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:58:30 2019 No.13965380 >>13965309 >>13965074 >>13964821 t.OP Just admit it, your failure of a thread is on life support. You have no hope left, just fucking end it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:56:49 2019 No.13965633 >>13965380 lmao he is coping so hard, bet he is underage desu, i too thought lolita was good back when i was 17 lmaoooo

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:03:21 2019 No.13965665 File: 96 KB, 640x591, 1570050942360.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13965633 >lmaoooo

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:06:38 2019 No.13965678 File: 112 KB, 785x731, 1569792514597.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13965665 >NOOOOOOOOOO Y-YOU CAN'T INSULT MY BELOVED IDOL NABOKOV

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:09:01 2019 No.13965688
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>>13965678
>ok, ill type NOOOOO and then say 'you can't do that', just like those funny screenshots on /r/4chan
>I even have /r/basedjaks, theres no way he'll be able to top this one!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:12:04 2019 No.13965701 >>13965665 funny because ur OP and here you are >>13965074

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:13:49 2019 No.13965710 File: 131 KB, 332x416, Screen Shot 2019-09-07 at 7.45.32 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13964857 >>13964905 >>13965074 >>13965380 >>13965665 >>13965678 >>13965688 >>13965701 all me ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:14:00 2019 No.13965712 >>13965309 This

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:16:55 2019 No.13965722 >>13965309 >>13965712 Name a single rare word in it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:25:55 2019 No.13965761

it's depressing how easily influenced some people here are. they read nabby's worthless contrarian opinions and they just go along with it because he speaks with an air of authority, as if any writer of note agrees with his dogshit takes. it's also absurd to put an emigre whose writing has little connection to his home country in the same category with dostoevsky and tolstoy, russian writers who actually wrote about russia. op is such a retard. this places is full of retards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:31:53 2019 No.13965789 >>13965761 true

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:33:30 2019 No.13965798 >>13965761 based and redpilled

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:35:23 2019 No.13965806 >>13964848 Pnin is good shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:38:35 2019 No.13965833 >>13965761 It's called being based. And yes, when you're based and stop caring what people think, people say damn that guys based. You are not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:40:01 2019 No.13965839 >>13965833 cringe and unbased

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:53:44 2019 No.13965933 >>13964905 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:59:40 2019 No.13965965 >another Chadokov thread posted >virginevsky plebs reeling and seething, furiously coping Feels good, /lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:03:22 2019 No.13965989 >>13965965 Not to mention, one created a counter thread. Serious seething going on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:28:08 2019 No.13966091 File: 274 KB, 398x376, 1564062947303.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13964905 >child-rape hit novel

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:50:00 2019 No.13966161 Pushkin is the greatest Russian novelist

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:04:35 2019 No.13966210

>>13964270
society:
>child sexual abuse is bad
also society:
>oh but this book that is romanticizing child sexual abuse is completely fine and it should be a literary classic!

fuck humans, fuck "intellectuals", fuck books, fuck your disgusting twisted fetishes and your cognitive dissonance

mao zedong was right

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:17:49 2019 No.13967009
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Because Nabokov was fluent in English, and was able to put his voice into his writing. As an English speaker, when you or I read Dost or Tol, we are not reading them, we are reading Constance Garnett or whomever else decided to translate the piece. Or maybe I'm retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:21:58 2019 No.13967013 >>13964270 I've read 4 Dostoyevsky books and they all made me feel bored and sick Now I'm reading Lolita and it's just making me feel plain sick. Are Russian authors not for me?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:23:21 2019 No.13967016 >>13967013 you should probably see a doctor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:24:31 2019 No.13967018 >>13966210 did uncle touch your peepee when you were a kid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:25:49 2019 No.13967020 >>13967013 that’s just the natural reaction to dostoevsky

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:36:28 2019 No.13967036 >>13964270 >After you go through Nabokov, every other russian writer will seem stale, especially Dostoyevky Funny That's the exact opposite of my experience. Now that I've read dostoevsky i can't stand nabokov anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:34:14 2019 No.13967152 >>13964905 Based

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