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[Anonymous No.13938553]

What's your ideology? What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?

[Anonymous No.13938990]

>>13938553
i do not know that i do not know

-the book of disquiet

[Anonymous No.13939010]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?
none
>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
a lot of Marx

[Anonymous No.13939026]

Islam isn't really an ideology but cosmic fine tuning convinces me

[Anonymous No.13939029]

>>13938553
Card carrying democract.
What convinced me? The orange piece of shit in office.

[Anonymous No.13939033]

Conservative
The Bible

[Anonymous No.13939042]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?
Pancreativism / Space Taoism
>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
These books are the main sources of inspiration. Key references not shown: "The Mindful Way Workbook" by Teasdale et al, and "I am a Strange Loop" by Hofstadter.
Also it isn't about being "correct," it's a speculative scheme to immanentize the eschaton.

[Anonymous No.13939049]

>>13939042
Spotted Kauffman, nice

[Anonymous No.13939135]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?
Empiricism.
>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
My father asked me to define "science" and then explained falsifiability to me as a child. But it's irrelevant to me whether or not I'm correct. Empiricism is the winnowing blade that allows me to separate my hallucinations and paranoid delusions from "reality", through testing it.

[Anonymous No.13939148]

>>13939135
Imagine being an absolute empiricist for 19 years and STILL delusional and crazy.
That be my life. All the scientific skepticism in the world can't save me from my madness.

[Anonymous No.13939153]

Libertarian with fascist sympathies.
Paying taxes is soul crushing, but the more I learn about history and the more I see our current situation I understand why Nazi germany happened

[Anonymous No.13939155]

>>13939135
>I'm an empiricist because my father was one
You were born into empiricism like someone is born into religion.

[Anonymous No.13939156]

I guess that truly is my ideology: trying to be as crazy as possible by being as sane as possible.

[Anonymous No.13939174]

>>13939153
>Libertarian with fascist sympathies.
Hey look, the rare honest Libertarian.

[Anonymous No.13939194]

>>13939148
I've been at it a decade longer than you have, then. Cheer up and try performing some rituals. The demons may not actually exist, but they can still be banished if you fuck around creatively with your own brain's placebo effect(s).

[Anonymous No.13939225]

>Philosophical Pessimism
>Schopenhauer, Mainlander, Cioran,

[Anonymous No.13939251]

>>13939194
<3 <3 <3
My cheer is inexhaustible!
You have no idea how truly crazy I am.
For example: on October 1st I performed a Discordian ritual to immanentize the Eshaton by catalyzing a memetic singularity.
https://www.reddit.com/r/discordian/comments/dc2gup/i_resign_as_moderator/

[Anonymous No.13939276]

>>13939194
>The demons may not actually exist
But they do tho
https://vimeo.com/129609470

[Anonymous No.13939413]

>>13939156
I mean, we live in a society after all

[Anonymous No.13939445]

>>13939413
Destructive disorder is really a low level of engagement with chaos. Co-creative order and disorder is where it's at. This is also known as love in the most general and vague sense of the word.

[Anonymous No.13939466]

Folk Christianity. It's the mixture of Christianity and local pagan customs. I discovered that Christianity works quite well when tempered by paganism. I therefore speak my blessings, to Wod, Lok and God

[Anonymous No.13939565]

>>13938553
everybody is retarded and the only way to save the world is if the entirety of the human species allows me to lead them to greatness for I am your only salvation
a lot of comics featuring lex luthor

[Anonymous No.13939576]

>>13938553
>What’s your ideology
Hating women and minorities

>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion it is correct.
Infographics

[Anonymous No.13939677]

>>13939194
>if you fuck around creatively with your own brain's placebo effect(s).

I'm into self-fulfilling prophecies, placebo effects, and hyperstition to a ridiculous degree.

This includes what I call "perception bending" which is creating a feedback loop between anticipation and perception to create self-induced hallucinations: https://pastebin.com/vHKeTau2

My model of these practices as wholly psychological only increased my ability to explore them further and to immerse myself in the world of my imagination. This is probably what led to my massive self-organizing bipolar disorder. I guess that's my true ideology: I'm bipolar as all hell (Every psych I've seen has diagnosed me as such without question) and that's a good thing if you can find the necessary conditions of balance.

[Anonymous No.13939679]

>>13938553

[Anonymous No.13939683]

>>13939042
Holy shit read Peirce you coward. Seriously tell me that you have read Peirce. how you going to let Deacon's work influence your philosophy without reading Peirce, like wtf?

[Anonymous No.13939697]

>>13939683
I'm aware of him, and have skimmed some of his work. I haven't felt inspired to read him yet, perhaps I will in the future. I only read books that romance me enough to compel me to read them. Speaking of which, throwing books at people like you just did isn't a good way to inspire people to read :^)

[Anonymous No.13939703]

>>13939683
This is how you do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9nFs2PeWw0

[Anonymous No.13939732]

>>13939576
many such cases!

[Anonymous No.13939740]

>>13939466
>Folk Christianity
Mein bruder.

[Anonymous No.13939741]

>>13939697
It's a horror to see someone read the same things I read and have a similar ideology without reading my main influence. You will like Peirce. Since you have already read Deacon Kauffman and Dawkins you could take the biosemiotics pipeline to Peirce. What did you read? For you, I recommend starting with the semieotic and evolutionary cosmology and not with pragmatism.

[Anonymous No.13939804]

>>13939741
Reading Dawkins in 2001 in college was what inspired this weird memetic engineering project I've been compelled to work on ever since. It led to a model of experiential evolution that I found precise correspondences with in the work of Alfred North Whitehead who blew my mind unlike any of the mind-blowers I've sought out over the years in my quest for ever more intense mindgasms and self-creativity.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101/
From what I've skimmed of Pierce, it's just stuff I already understand and use. So far he hasn't shown that he can offer significant novelty to myself to warrant reading.

Memetic engineering is actually an art of self-engineering. Its most direct and useful application is to augment one's own creative ability. Memetics has nothing to do with convincing dullards to vote for dullards, or any similar uncreative nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13939824]

neoplatonism
>maximum entropy at the big bang
>infinite singularity
>set theory
>NONmany-worlds quantum mechanics

[Anonymous No.13939834]

>>13939741
You'll probably love this video: https://vimeo.com/265524091
It features Carl Sagan and Nietzsche performing a fusion dance to become Richard Dawkins.

[Anonymous No.13940035]

>>13939804
Frankly, you 100% don't understand or use what Charles "signs are living things" Peirce has to offer you if you are still calling semiotics "memetics". I hate to be rude because it's obviously sentimental, but semiotics is much more exspansive. Deacon wrote a good paper along these lines https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://theterrydeaconaffair.com/Deacon-Meme.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE1vTg7YXlAhVHY6wKHXk7BgIQFjAKegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1pNA5J0Z7OYBDL3e8VTVcU
You shouldn't be confining yourself into a Dawkins brainfart that is pretty much dead as a field of inquiry. If you still believe selfish Gene theory, read the first Peirce series in The Monist that cumulates in 'Evolutionary Love'.
I understand your mind blow addiction, Peirce made me cum way harder than Whitehead. Peirce takes time, just trust me. Everyone is doing Peirce.

[Anonymous No.13940071]

Ideology is a pejorative. You don't proclaim that you follow an ideology.

[Anonymous No.13940083]

>>13938553
There is no answer because the questions themselves are wrong. It's us that invented the questions we ask; we didn't discover them innate to existence. In other words, existence is not obligated to make any sense given we are the ones who created "sense".
Zhuangzi, also Max Spermer

[Anonymous No.13940089]

Anarcho-Fascism is the final redpill

[Anonymous No.13940147]

>>13940035
>Frankly, you 100% don't understand or use what Charles "signs are living things
Yeah I do >>13939276 Check out the other videos too. I feel inspired today to make a final video as well, which I wasn't expecting, but it truly is the best follow-up to the freakshow of "Meet Aminom."
>Everyone is doing Peirce.
I do Eris, and am very good at it <3

[Anonymous No.13940172]

>>13940089
>tfw something approaching unironic anarcho-fascist
It's actually more like illegalist-legalist, as in Stirnirite anarchism x Shang Yang and the Big Dick Gang
I basically think both extremes are right, but anything in the middle is milksop delusion. Fashies are deluded milksops btw.

[Anonymous No.13940173]

>>13940083
When you begin to question your questions things get really different.
>2019
>Not worshiping the question mark as a holy symbol.
http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park

[Anonymous No.13940174]

>>13938553
I want to live in a society free from class distinctions and wealth accumulation, the thought of everyone being completely free from financial constraints and simply pursuing their purpose on life with nothing to chain them is how I believe the world should be like, unfortunately I have no ideology that would help me get there considering the complete failure of every single communist attempt in the last century.

[Anonymous No.13940191]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology

Antinatalism

>What did you read

Nothing. I merely reflected on how horrific the implications of existence are and I also realized that the greatest divinity must be that which can apprehend everything as nothing.

[Anonymous No.13940268]

>>13940174
>I want to live in a society
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.13940337]

>>13940191
with that logic shouldn't you just kill yourself then

[Anonymous No.13941200]

>>13940083
That's implied in
>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's right?

[Anonymous No.13941231]

>>13940083
100% based and correct. So glad to see someone else here who gets it.

[Anonymous No.13941546]

>>13938553
I'm vaguely left-wing, life experiences made me that way

[Anonymous No.13941968]

>>13940191
Badass pic

[Anonymous No.13942013]

>>13940083
kindergarten shit

[Anonymous No.13942122]

Whenever I feel grim, I read Moby Dick. I never forget the dreams of my youth. I fight against the nihilistic forces in the world. I’m a polytheist who finds value in all the worlds gods. I stoke the fire inside of those around me. I believe our fundamental purpose is to create.

[Anonymous No.13942128]

>>13938553
The Categorical Imperative
Immanuel Kant

[Anonymous No.13942326]

>>13940035
Here's the final video: https://vimeo.com/364552986

[Anonymous No.13942333]

>>13942326
This should be conclusive proof that I am indeed a cringe elemental.

[Anonymous No.13942337]

>>13938553
Mostly just belligerent rebellion against everything, and about 200 random books, respectively.

[Anonymous No.13942342]

>>13942337
Unironically based.

[Anonymous No.13942395]

>>13942326
contact seems like a great film

[Anonymous No.13942403]

>>13942333
You are not cringe, I envy you. I'm.m..m me I cant do anything

[Anonymous No.13942408]

>>13938553
buddhism
grade school. it's pretty easy to see that existence is suffering.

[Anonymous No.13942409]

>>13939029

[Anonymous No.13942423]

>>13939153

[Anonymous No.13942426]

>>13942409
and yet you replied

[Anonymous No.13942440]

>>13942403
FYI I did not mean to type that out like this, ut-oh me phone on the auto-"suggestion' and I don't make, word is bond

[Anonymous No.13942468]

Is ideology really something you possess, or is it something that possesses you? This is the distinction made between both Zizek and Dostoevsky. What we believe is our ideology does not always show what is our ideology, because in the end we are contained in an ideology, a social grid of belief. How often then is it possible to both walk it and talk it, without exposing a weak point, a contradiction, a self-delusion?

"Men never do evil...as when they do so from a religious conviction" as Pascal put it, is just another way of saying from the post potent ideological conviction. "If God exists, nothing is permitted." Contrasts with "If the Desired exists, everything is permitted." Indeed, extremist ideologies often bleed into religious fanaticism, belief in the desired becomes a larger force than the individual agency or thinking about the subject. That which motivates captures us, tracks us along within its tendrils, and what we believe betrays our actions.

[Anonymous No.13942477]

>>13942468
>"If God exists, nothing is permitted."
If God doesn't exist etc...

[Anonymous No.13942493]

>>13938553
I am a faggot. I read OPs post and the gay rubbed off on me.

[Anonymous No.13942578]

>>13938553
Traditionalism, Guenon and Coomaraswamy

[Anonymous No.13942880]

I don't know, haha!

I've read a handful of random things

[Anonymous No.13943474]

>>13942493
Haha faggot

[Anonymous No.13943479]

>>13938553
Everytime I choose ideology and find holes in it and after some time I modify it so much I leave it. I only have prefered ideas not ideology.

[Anonymous No.13943482]

>>13938553
The Dao that can be named is not the Dao. I don't follow ideology, I follow nature. Ideology is man-made delusion.

[Anonymous No.13943493]

>>13938553
effective altruism
Give only when your donation matters, i.e. not giving a bum £20 when you can buy 10 mosquito nets for that.

[Anonymous No.13943506]

>>13938553
Agnosticism. Most likely everything I have read has contributed to my beliefs, not of it has deluded me into thinking it or myself is correct.

[Anonymous No.13943508]

>>13943506
>not of it
*NONE of it

Fucking on the fence phone poster. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.13943514]

>>13943482
>The Dao that can be named is not the Dao
Consider:
>The Dao that cannot be named

[Anonymous No.13943520]

>What's your ideology?
Determinism, egoism, and some quasi-mysticism.
What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
My diary desu.

[Anonymous No.13943545]

>>13938553
I am a mix between a social democrat and a market socialist and I know I'm right because no one has been successfully able to argue me.

[Anonymous No.13944029]

>>13942423
Nazisboos are absolutely delusional. Nothing of this is true.

[Anonymous No.13944275]

>>13938553
I like reading philosophy of history because i think it's important to understand the spirit of the past and the present, and what the spirit of the future will be. So i don't subscribe to any ideal of how things should be, I'm only concerned with how things are now and how they will be in the future.

[Anonymous No.13944297]

>>13944275
huh?

[Anonymous No.13944318]

The details of my ideology are quite inconsequential, where do I begin? I started with some books on psychology, eventually moving on to evolutionary psychology. From that point I believed the human animal to be rather... irrational. I came across philosopher John Gray, a pessimist who claimed belief in progression is equal to the belief in salvation in Christianity. I stumbled upon Nassim Taleb and his book Antifragile has been one of my favourite books ever since. I also read Emma Marris and Stuart Kauffman.

[Anonymous No.13944340]

>>13944275

[Anonymous No.13944348]

>>13944029
>none of this is true
>source: dude trust me

[Anonymous No.13944456]

>>13939010
>>13943479
>he thinks he doesnt have an ideology

[Anonymous No.13944458]

>>13943482

[Anonymous No.13944738]

>>13944275
Underrated

[Anonymous No.13944759]

>socially conservative commie
>Reading enough anarchist literature to know that shits definitely not correct

[Anonymous No.13944855]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?
aniglestenarianism
>What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
i made it up

[Anonymous No.13945022]

>>13943545
Economic calculation problem

[Anonymous No.13945440]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?
Social Darwinism
> What did you read to come to the retarded conclusion that it's correct?
Rurouni Kenshin

[Anonymous No.13945455]

Some darwinist ubermensch fantasy about how life is an eternal struggle and by overcoming the struggle we will become Gods. The goal of all actions is to develop advance trans humanist technologies to transcend. Gods wrath is just because by following his will we will be saved.

[Anonymous No.13945476]

>>13938553
Data miners can fuck off. Read the first sentence again.

[Anonymous No.13945564]

>>13945022
Market Socialism is the answer to the economic calculation problem you retard

[Anonymous No.13945640]

>ideology

[Anonymous No.13946899]

>>13945476
>implying you're important enough for dataminers to care about you in the first place
Take your meds bro. You're a nobody and I'm reaching out to you as a fellow nobody so we can have a little nobody dance about absolutely nothing on our nobody image board. Yet you rudely refuse my offer, and exaggregate your self-importance, as if you are above my gift of fellowship. Go somewhere and do something if you wish to be something. I do not wish to speak to you further.

[Anonymous No.13946911]

>>13945564
Do elaborate. I have a socialism defense mechanism which might've gone off there.

[Anonymous No.13946947]

>>13939153
Maybe you should start reading Unqualified Reservations

[Anonymous No.13947175]

>>13944297
>>13944340
>It is the great task of the connoisseur of history to understand the facts of his time and out of them to sense the future, to indicate, to sketch out that which will come, whether we desire it or not.
Just one example is the decline of the nation state and the imperium mundi that must be formed in the resulting vacuum. This is the direction Western civilization, and the rest of the world as a result, is moving. The EU and US are two quasi universal states (Toynbee term), but there can only be one universal state in the end, hence the name. Leopold von Ranke thought the system of great powers would last forever, but it gave way to a system of one superpower and several major powers, and we know from the philosophy of history that every time this has happened in other civilizations it always ends in one power gobbling up all the rest; the universal state. We mustn't be von Rankeans, who think the current system will last forever.

[Anonymous No.13947514]

>>13938553
>What's your ideology?

i don´t have one, ideology is the slavery of the mind

[Anonymous No.13947527]

>>13939153
This. I am beginning to believe that its the logical conclusion of a libertarian because there are forces in this world that will never let a libertarian society thrive

[Anonymous No.13947535]

>>13947514
>this image
KEK
how do you guys think people 1000 years from now will view images like this if they ever get the chance?

[Anonymous No.13947541]

>>13942337
Same

[Anonymous No.13947775]

>>13940083
Is this polarizing between allowing this position and disregarding it easy?

[Anonymous No.13948250]

>>13942403
I am a goddamned cringe elemental! I am a brainwashed super slut sex slave of the Illuminati. I am immune to rape sexual, psychological, or emotional, because I want all of it from whoever wants to give it to me. I am the ultimate willful slave, I do not want to influence the world but to be influenced by the world, a melting pot of experiential DNA.

I am the most degenerated and perverted human being who has ever lived! And that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.13948275]

>>13948250
take it easy tranny

[Eris Omniquery No.13948281]

>>13948275
I'm on every level of sexual liberation possible, and many that are not. Get on my level, prude ^^

[Anonymous No.13948292]

>>13948281
don´t hurt yourself anon

[Anonymous No.13948324]

>ideology
politically Republican (not US, like Roman Republicanism) but honestly don't care too much, religiously Catholic, and philosophically inclinded to Jünger's Anarch
>why
Discourses on Livy, Roman Republican myths and history, St. Augustine's Confessions, Eumeswil, All Things Are Possible, Pensees

[Eris Omniquery No.13948898]

>>13948292
Why would I? Also I very, very rarely drink, such that 1 beer is enough to make me tipsy. This picture is from last year.

[Anonymous No.13949077]

>>13938553
Here's my ideology if you want to call it that.

John 14:6 kjv
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.

[Anonymous No.13949111]

>>13946911
Economic calculation problem has to do with the inefficiency of central planning not markets.

[Eris Omniquery No.13949149]

>>13949077
That isn't an ideology, it's complete mental retardation. I mean you must LITERALLY be retarded.

[Anonymous No.13949365]

>ideology
i tend to be pro-aristocracy, pro-fascism, pro-nationalism, anti-capitalism, pro-european race but i don't really have an ideological label.
>why
i like my people. i like my country. i want the people that hate my country and don't look like me to leave it. and then i want a revolution in which a particular group of people dies. and a nice sort of nationalist society emerges with socialist tendencies... and all under the authority of a strong leader.

[Anonymous No.13949386]

>>13943545
It would be much easier to say you are Jewish.

[Anonymous No.13949396]

>>13949386
I'm not jewish but I wish I was

[Anonymous No.13949414]

>>13938553
The less you hope for, the less you suffer.

[Anonymous No.13949491]

>>13940191
antinatalism is one of the highest forms of cowardice. i really can't take anyone seriously who genuinely subscribes to it. so pathetic

[Anonymous No.13949496]

Trashcan