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13923201 No.13923201 [Reply] [Original]

Which philosophy does the best job in explaining why suicide rates are rising so fast among men? What literature has been written to specifically address this likely modernity related issue?

>> No.13923212
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13923212

>>13923201
That is total suicides, not the suicide rate

>> No.13923226

>>13923212
So 10 people per 100k kill themselves lmao.... what a fucking travesty! Modernity! Ah!

>> No.13923242

>>13923201
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_(book)

>> No.13923243

>>13923226
Yes, but why is it rising so quickly? This is an insular trend that is clearly being caused by something. It would be ignorant of us to deny the implications this statistic has on the state of our society.

>> No.13923244
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>>13923226
SHISH

>> No.13923262

>>13923243
Society is the reason.

*dabs*

>> No.13923268
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13923268

Houellebecq's Whatever is a good introduction to the issues of modernity, especially the impact it has on the sex life.

>> No.13923284

>>13923268
This is shooped, right?

>> No.13923294
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>>13923201
Yes, it's called the Ted pill. Read his manifesto and you will understand everything.

>> No.13923308

>>13923243
It’s a non issue. I’d say 10 ppl out of 100k is pretty good, given how shit life is

>> No.13923314

>>13923212
>>13923226
>>13923268
what is so bad about sexually incompetent men killing themselves? many animals do it except they lack sentience to kill themselves so they die alone instead

>> No.13923320

>>13923314
There is nothing objectively wrong with it, or with sterilizing dumb people or whatever

>> No.13923322

>>13923268
Damn, I'm glad I was born before all you shitheads. I probably would have been a virgin too, but I just made it before the Thotarchy cutoff.

>> No.13923332
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>>13923314
>we need intensely competitive sexual relations so that the next gen can do their best to keep this going

>> No.13923339

>>13923242
Yes, we know the feelings associated with the act of suicide. What’s is driving those feelings to occur? What exactly is the source of the problem? How can it be targeted?

>> No.13923423
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>>13923284
You're in a for a rough ride buddy.
>>13923314
You seem to think that there is some correlation with sexual success and inherent usefulness to society. Most scientists and artists would have been sexual losers today. Higher IQ men loses virginity later today, there is also a correlation between criminality and sexual success.

>> No.13923434

>>13923201
Mark Fisher—Capitalist Realism is pretty good. I say this as a non-leftist.

>> No.13923435

>>13923201
Suicide is a fad, OP. See the sorrows of y. werther.

>> No.13923445
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13923445

>>13923332
women empowerment increases each woman's self image making her not accept anything bellow the top 20% of men. only the highly intelligent (intelligence being actual intelligence and not meme internet tests), the strong, the healthy and the beautiful would reproduce. chads also would only breed healthy women in their prime assuring best possible outcome. at this rate men would become masculine 10' tall 4000iq with a 20" dicks by the year 2200
it's 3d chess bro, you need to see beyond the 1 dimensional line of pol trads - sjw libs. that's the only way to combine natural rules and modern society

>> No.13923518

>>13923445
based gigachad

>> No.13923526

>>13923201
Our culture is hyperfeminized. Men do worse in school compared to women, they have higher suicide rates, they NEET and play video games all day, not bothering to find a mate. Males are just checking out of a society that doesn't want them. The gender crisis is a direct result of our hyperfeminized society, where males are literally attempting to become females because deep down they feel that's what society expects of them. I used to think of the LGBT phenomenon as blurring the line between male and female, but now I think it's about the complete erasure of the male. Women who want to emulate men are a very small fraction of this movement; without the reverse, the LGBT tag wouldn't exist. Hyperfeminization ties into the decline of the birth rate as well; the reproduction of the species is masculine, but "love" is feminine. The incel epidemic is because of men who feel they are entitled to love, an idea that society has been pushing for over 100 years. Modern popular music is only about love. The pussy whipped modern man doesn't marry to produce children, because like a woman, he marries for love.
>The best-known characteristic of American life is the hen-pecked nature of American men…the childish desire for love that Americans display in their contacts throughout the world is a direct consequence of the absolute predominance of the female principle…Intimacy, familiarity, lack of reverence have become the dominant themes of American life.
I believe this is the biggest reason, among others, that explains the OP. Why this actually happened is another matter entirely.

>> No.13923550

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/james-mill/

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>>13923550
>marxists.org

>> No.13923610

>>13923268
This is why we need more young men writing novels instead of fucking around in STEM disciplines. We're experiencing the biggest sexual shift in centuries, and men aren't talking about it through the only medium capable of dealing with it

>> No.13925145

>>13923201
Unironically feminism. I don't just mean "muh sjws" I mean women's current place in society is so unnatural and fucked up it's causing all this friction.

>> No.13925181

>>13923610
What would books do for their sex life?

>> No.13925274

>>13923314
Yes, sex is the solution to everything, if only it was so simple.

>> No.13925291

>>13923201
Socialism
A political philosophy, but very well equipped to address this socioeconomic problem

>>13923434
>>13923550
There ya go

>> No.13925313

IIRC women commit suicide far more often than men but are less successful at completing the task than men

aka women are even shit at killing themselves when compared to men.

>> No.13925320

>>13925313
>aka women are even shit at killing themselves when compared to men
lmao I said the same thing to my coworker when this cake up in conversation this summer. just shows women are better actors than men, or try to be

>> No.13925337

>>13925313
It's because they do stuff like swallowing pills that has a very low rate of success. Men tend to shoot themselves, jump off stuff, etc.

>> No.13925419

>>13923445
>at this rate men would become masculine 10' tall 4000iq with a 20" dicks by the year 2200
You were correct up until this point. Being tall and having a big dick makes you a nigger, figuratively speaking. The 4k IQ gigachads of tomorrow will be 4 foot tall rice dick chinks.

>> No.13925432

>>13925291
Please don't agree with my post, tranny. Thank you.

>> No.13925435

im amazed nobody has written a book about the blackpill.
It seems like all the information is scattered.

>> No.13925440

>>13925435
People can't even swallow Houellebecq what makes you think anyone's ready to even write a blackpill book?

>> No.13925479

>>13925181
i think he just means as a way to counter this phenomena dudes gotta stop hoping they wont be incels cause there making 80k and publish something addressing the topic

>> No.13925489

>>13923201
motherfucking Emile Durkheim, motherfucker

>> No.13926785

>>13923526
It's true. The total Cuck music that dominated radio since the 40s played a major role. In a way women became everything for men to offset the soulcrushing aspects of work and the Cold War. Children were increasingly feminised by this.
There's an interesting scene in Crumb where he discusses his sexual attraction, at first he became attracted to feminised cartoon animals but once he got a little older he saw these strong amazon type women which became a lifelong obsession. From a psychological perspective the attraction to a strong mother-warrior figure is a replacement for a total lack of parenting. The individual continues to seek the upbringing he was denied.
And of course homosexuality is a common result as well considering the male qualities of this ideal type.

>> No.13926803

>>13925313
even when it comes to killing yourself, you're less successful than a male, meme gender

>> No.13926833

>>13923445
>>13923526
>>13925145
the final pill

>> No.13926853
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>>13923201
According to some, it's not rising fast enough.

>> No.13926861
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>>13923526
whats wrong with a feminine society? its something humans have been working towards since the beginning of civilization, even before that. Look up human self-domestication and see how masculine/aggressive features have been selected against because they arent useful to a functioning society. It's in your self interest to be safe, and a more feminine society will provide that better than the romanticized traditional culture a lot of people coming here from /pol/ suggest,

>> No.13926868

>>13926853
She's based, we should bring back gladiator fights

>> No.13926878

>>13926861
Civilization and order are masculine constructs.

It's not a coincidence that femininity/the feminine principle is almost always perceived as chaotic in various religions ( e.g.: Tiamat ).

>> No.13926882

>>13926878
Those are just sexist generalizations lmao

>> No.13926888

>>13926882
Get the fuck out of here then, r*dditor.

>> No.13926889

>>13923314
Taking a selection process from a billion years ago (literally), fit for discriminating mushrooms, and using it for intelligent beings is not really optimal either.
Evolutionary pressure is a good thing. Sexual selection is only one form it can take and is ridiculously inadapted for improving higher functions.

>> No.13926927

>>13926889
Would you be against legalizing gladiatorial combat?

>> No.13926928

>>13926861
There have been a lot of matriarchies. They were extremely violent societies, were systematically btfo when meeting a masculine society and never produced any higher culture/industry.
Feminity isn't safer. It is weaker and docile but that doesn't make things more functional. It reduces the probability of successful change and preserves subpar methods.

>> No.13926936

>>13926927
No, I want unreal tournament to happen and bet all my money on the exoskeletons.

>> No.13926938

>>13926882
you absolute brainlet

>> No.13926947

>>13926861
>whats wrong with a feminine society?
It gets conquered, raped and obliterated the moment something 1% manlier shows up. Such is this universe.
>and see how masculine/aggressive features have been selected against because they arent useful to a functioning society
A functional society can protect itself against wild animals or feral humans, and can also apply specifically physical strength, physical perseverance and physical will to overcome obstacles in a strictly hierarchical and direct way. A thing females were never known for and never will be.
Which is OK, to each their own, hypermasculine societies turn into Islamic Shitholes. Hyperfeminine turn into the same. I wonder if the ongoing colonization of EU pussy by Afro-Arabian dick will result into a Muslim world that is not a flaming junkpile of hateful inbreds and a European world that is not full of limp-wristed faggots and screeching unwanted bitches.

>> No.13926959

Well there's slightly more christian women than men, maybe that could be the solution for incels.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/gender-composition/

>> No.13926968

>>13925313
They do it for attention, same reason women cry so much more than men.

>> No.13926979

"Why Liberalism Failed" by Patrick Deneen. Liberalism "freed" people from old morals, which led them to become aimless.

I would add that without a guide, people end up being led by their base desires. Which leads to unhappiness. Another thing I'm seeing is how culture is making men mentally weaker. It values weakness as good and mental strength as toxic.

And worse, it makes men define their worth by how women rate their physical appearance. This is a pretty bad way to define your worth as a man.

>> No.13926983

>>13926947
You speak like we are in the Bronze Age. Increased diplomacy and technology has changed everything. Just look at Europe. If there is no reason to be masculine, why should someone conform to the way of his long dead ancestors?

>> No.13926987

>>13923201
modern women are more hypergamous than ever
and men are financially fuck with more men than ever believing they will never own a home

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>>13923445
BASED

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>>13926983
>no reason to be masculine

>> No.13927004

>>13926979
Had a brother in law jump off a cliff recently, when they searched his apartment it was just filled with a random mishmash of tokens from around the world, global cities, lots of buddhist shit, expensive clothes, stuff related to people like steve jobs.
It seemed to me like the guy was a completely unmoored global citizen who was searching for meaning and finding none.

>> No.13927006

>>13926983
it seems like you're misunderstanding their reply. where do they say there's no reason to be masculine?

"Increased diplomacy and technology" has changed a lot, definitely not everything.

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>>13926999
spooked

>> No.13927011

>>13923445
>trusting femoids to make decisions
Disgusting. W*men should have zero reproductive rights and a eugenics/genetic engineering program initiated.

>> No.13927015

>>13926983
Short term thinking considering we get literally replaced.
You also seem to severely underestimate the remaining masculinity in Europe. Society is feminizing, it is not feminized yet and far from it, the stronk womyn crowd is right on that. It can get much, much worse than what we have.

>> No.13927019

>>13927007
By RNG's sense of humour? Kinda

>> No.13927021

>>13923212
By percentage, female suicide rate went up more.

>> No.13927029
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>>13926987
If somebody believes that they're going to go their entire lives without sex unless they pay a prostitute +$300 for a quick fuck their main concern is not owning a house.
They also don't have time to fantasize about meme ideologies.

>> No.13927040

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcz1WM7A1A

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>>13927021
So?

>> No.13927052

>>13926983
>technology
Technology make the world more masculine.
There is a reason little boys (even chimps) spontaneously want to play with robots but not little girls. Men are on average both eager and more competent at developing and operating higher technology.

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>>13926861
kek probably not even bait

>> No.13927059

>>13923445
Well put, Chadibiades. But aren't we forgetting the spectre of cyber lesbocracy reaching back from the future and hyperstitionally thwarting the progress of sexual selection through the pill and condoms? How can women bring the solution when they are increasingly becoming spiritual lesbians?

>> No.13927065

>>13927054
Exactly what I'm saying. You have to be lesbian to believe that.

>> No.13927067

A humanity that does not include me or my progeny can honestly go extinct for all i care. Fuck your perfection of humanity crap.

>> No.13927075

>>13927045
I'm just surprised because people always whine about males

>> No.13927088

>>13923268
>men under age 30 who report zero female sex partners since turning 18
So that include 18 years old who turned 18 in the past month and gays?
Please choose your sample subjects more carefully next time Washington Post.

>> No.13927091

>>13927075
Well what would people whine about? Can you blame women? No, i don't think so.

>> No.13927098

>>13923201
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcz1WM7A1A

>> No.13927105

>>13927088
Also includes 18 year olds who had sex at 15, 16 and 17 years of age. Not exactly a measure of virginity

>> No.13927108

>>13927075
>x goes from 1 to 2, y goes from 1000 to 1500
>why are people talking about x when y increased more as a percentage I literally can't even right now.
Probably because male rates are still more than triple female rates. Female issues in general still attract far more attention than male even when they're utterly trivial in comparison, so good job reinforcing the cunt-centric world view.

>> No.13927114

>>13927108
Or maybe females aren't afraid to seek help because it makes them seen unmanly anon.

>> No.13927124

>>13927114
Cute

>> No.13927126

>>13923201
MGTOW

>> No.13927138

>>13927114
Or maybe they just have it easy anon.

>> No.13927140

>>13927138
If they have it so easy why do they keep getting raped, smart boi

>> No.13927145

>>13927140
Because they're asking for it

>> No.13927151

>>13923339
godless men

>> No.13927155

>>13927145
I've never heard any woman ask to be raped, where do I find those

>> No.13927156

Unironically Marx. His economics are shit, but as a sociologist his theories of alienation are actually not entirley off the mark.

>> No.13927157

>>13927004
>Had a brother in law jump off a cliff recently, when they searched his apartment it was just filled with a random mishmash of tokens from around the world, global cities, lots of buddhist shit, expensive clothes, stuff related to people like steve jobs.
>It seemed to me like the guy was a completely unmoored global citizen who was searching for meaning and finding none.
If anything, this is what the media pushes people for. And obviously this is not a good recipe for a good life.

>> No.13927161
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So what should I do to be more masculine and thrive that way? I don't feel comfortable taking feminine roles in society, nor do I want to feel excluded and discarded.

>> No.13927165

>>13927155
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19085605/
Anywhere you find a woman, you'll probably find one that wants to be raped.

>> No.13927180

>>13927161
buy a motorcycle and get off the internet

>> No.13927187

>>13927161
Read the Stoics (not the emasculated modern ones, but the Roman ones). And biographies of old Romans. Cato the Elder, Scipio Africanus, Cincinnatus, Manius, etc
Being masculine is not being some roided caricature like >>13923445. People like that are unmanly, since they care too much about pleasing women. Being manly is being mentally strong, rational.

And this is not only a Roman thing. Look at the man who ended the Warring States Period in Japan, Tokugawa Ieyasu:
>The strong manly ones in life are those who understand the meaning of the word patience. Patience means restraining one's inclinations. There are seven emotions: joy, anger, anxiety, adoration, grief, fear, and hate, and if a man does not give way to these he can be called patient. I am not as strong as I might be, but I have long known and practiced patience. And if my descendants wish to be as I am, they must study patience.

>> No.13927210

>>13926878
That's not the case in every civilization, not even in the case of your example. Tiamat was a symbol of chaos but she was a beast, while Inanna-Ishtar was considered a symbol of the civilization process (while being at the ame time goddess of love and war).

>> No.13927221

>>13927165
>4 times a year
Well it seems like a big gamble to find one that's currently wanting to be raped anon

>> No.13927250

>>13927221
>fantasize about winning the lottery four times a year
>get upset when you win it unexpectedly
Boo hoo

>> No.13927275

>>13927004
>lots of buddhist shit
>expensive clothes
That's completely contradictory, what the fuck was this idiot doing?

>> No.13927292
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>>13923550
>>13925291
>>13927156

People would kill themselves en mass in a hypothetical socialist "utopia". When they are "free" to do whatever they want and find they have no purpose, no special talent, no recognition, all they have is drugs, that's when suicide is gonna become banal.

>> No.13927300

First you've got Durkheim's book "On suicide". Although it might seem outdated as it is from 1890, it's not. He begins by refuting several suicide theories (such as suicide as an individual disease, suicide by climate, by race, etc.) and he finally ties it to anomie, a disintegrated society with no human bounds, a phenomena specially strong among wealthy people (today it would be across all classes, but that's because anomie is tied to modernity and capitalism, and the social class more identified with these values was the upper class, as poor people were still peasents who lived in a traditional way and suffered no anomie).

Then you've got marxism. It's the primary framework for thinking every relation between economy and social and psychological issues. There's a school called "value criticism" that ties the freudian death thrive to commodity fetishism. It's much better than Mark Fisher, but their texts are weird to found translated in english.

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13927314

>>13925291

>> No.13927320

>>13927155

>men are rapists, it must be from all their fantasizing about rape and perpetuating rape and wanting to rape people

>>13925869
>>13925954
>>13925969

oh wait

>> No.13927326

Well boomers aren't committing suicide en masse so that leaves three generations.
generation x-they were slackers in their youth out rebelliousness and now have found out they're +40 years old and have nothing so they off themselves.
millenials-this generation got fucked with the most, if you don't realize this you live under a rock.
zoomers-they off themselves off themselves or their classmates because of a lack of sex.

>> No.13927336

>>13925181
It contextualizes their loneliness, making them feel like they're still part of the human community even if they're struggling to find physical intimacy

>> No.13927340

>>13923590
Is it an (un)ironic meme to pretend to shit on marxists.org now?

>> No.13927342

>>13926853
Based but she's still ugly as fuck

>> No.13927351

>>13926853
Reading this is weird. Like, normally, reading misogynistic women fills me with seething rage, but there's a kind of honesty and self awareness to this that I can't actually argue against.

>> No.13927365

>>13927292
>People would kill themselves en mass in a hypothetical socialist "utopia".

Weak people would. It wouldn't be suited for those who are unable to grant themselves meaning, but that's typically what justified the existence of an aristocratic class separate from the masses.

>> No.13927381

>>13927365
socialism and social darwinism at last meet again

>> No.13927399

>>13927351
She's full of shit. Low quality men almost always contribute more to society as drones than chads, not to mention that she can only talk like that because low quality men made it possible by inventing and developing the infrastructure necessary for her to spout her shit-tier opinions. That's besides the fact that in the "naturally balanced" world she proposes she would be nothing more than a glorified incubator and libido sink for Chad. She would have to give up the comforts of civilized life as well, because there would be no one there to maintain it.

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>>13923201
Apostolic Christianity

>> No.13927441

>>13927351
It is crap. Historically, your status, your marriage and your "line of work" were not decided by some kind of free market but by the family you were born in.

Also, a man's quality is not defined by how women rate them as attractive.

>> No.13927450

>>13927275
Buddhism is sort of mental fashion accessory for this type of people

>> No.13927452

>>13927326
Boomers have very large rates of suicide
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/23/health/deaths-despair-mortality-opioids-economy-study/index.html

In large parts because they share the same kind of values as you do.

>> No.13927456

>>13927450
It's even more ironic that of all the religions they could choose from they chose the one that is about not becoming attached to things or phenomena.

>> No.13927467

>>13927456
Whoops, didn't see the guy you replied. Sorry.

>> No.13927480

>>13927427
that book was very underwhelming

>> No.13927556

>>13927155
In the 50SoG book clubs.

>> No.13927797

>>13923314
>The man, he said, who was animal

>> No.13927815

>>13927187
Thank you for this post anon.

>> No.13928214

The arrogance in believing a completely outdated and refuted economics book has the answer as to why people commit suicide.

>> No.13928668

>>13923243
>This is an insular trend that is clearly being caused by something.

not necessarily.

could be simply that people are now more successful in committing suicide. that is, with internet they now know how to do it properly. there is more and more info out there about how to go about it often in a painless way.

but there is probably a socioeconomic component and social/cultural component to it. most people these days are alienated by their own society. religion is more or less dead, social instuations and associations have all disappeared, communities have become split along ethnic and political lines. familes likewise either don't exist or are splitting along political/cultural lines. the sources of social support in the past have disappeared.

>> No.13928688

>>13926853
this implies that there's always an excess of women. what are the women doing? they can't all be whores.

and the men who can afford to keep harems are few and far between.

>> No.13928949

>>13928688
>They can't all be whores
That's where you're wrong bucko

>> No.13928968

>>13926853
>Life is all about getting laid
heh

>> No.13929041

>we're all feminized losers please I need big Muslim cock!
You guys are pathetic and delusional. Have sex.

>> No.13929195

>>13923201
>Which philosophy does the best job in explaining why suicide rates are rising so fast among men?
God is dead and we, western society, still have found no replacement for it. Lack of meaning ensues, etc etc

>> No.13930541 [DELETED] 

>>13923268
Coincides with the rise of smart phones.

>> No.13930561

>>13923268
Coincides with the rise of smart phones and social media.

>> No.13930649

>>13928668
I wouldn’t blame the emergence of new social divisions, since there really isn’t any. It’s not like the United States are like the Middle East, where the impact of the War on Terror recreated old antiquated sectarian divisions that either did not exist prior or at least not to that extent, and the Arab Spring delegitimizing the state powers that kept the re-emerging discontent in check, erupted violent sectarian civil war all across the region. In contrast to that, the gridlock in congress spurring a concentration of power into the chief executive and the respective constituencies of current and possible presidential coalitions as a means of reorienting the public policy of the United States away from post-Reagan neoliberalism, is nothing in comparison.

At most, like I just said, you have the re-entrenchment of identity politics, as the basis for Democratic Party constituency building, as a result of the impotence of establishment neoliberal politics. Democrats-in-denial whining about Trump and braindead conservatives trying to trigger the libs, both to compensate for a sense of inadequacy, are more so the consequence than the cause of the general misery.

If we are going to refer to any social-political as originating why people are so miserable, its that, as you said, old communities have been fractured to the extent where public participation no longer holds meaning - partially because of either the realization, or the repression of that realization, that old institution are ultimately impotent in the face of new developments making them superfluous. This can be political, such as the crisis of neoliberalism revealing the idiosyncrasies of public institutions, or just a simple fact of modern life; like new technologies such as the internet dissolving old forms of social belonging. For example, It used to be you wanted to be around people, you would just go outside. Nowadays you go online.

>> No.13930719

>>13926853
she aint wrong

>> No.13930732

>>13927067
but youre acweak incel, no one cares what you think

>> No.13930742

>>13930732
You can't even type out a proper sentence, you're much worthy of breeding.

>> No.13930750

>>13930742
being a grammar nazi nerd dont get you pussy little beta bitch

>> No.13930754

>>13930750
Women are attracted to intelligence and confidence.

>> No.13930791

>>13930754
Or they're hoes who like big dicks and fat wallets

>> No.13930841

>>13930791
https://youtu.be/4cTG9Sb-Qwc

>> No.13930907

>>13923314

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201212/running-amok-why-are-virtually-all-spree-killers-men

>Now, here is where the nasty part of nature, including human nature, comes in. An unfortunate corollary of the relativity of inclusive fitness is that an organism can also increase its inclusive fitness by reducing the inclusive fitness of others. Reducing the proportion of others' (non-kin) genes in the gene pool will increase the proportion of yours. That potentially makes murder, genocide, warfare, and other nasty stuff potential relative genetic pay offs.

>> No.13931752

>>13925291
Reminder to ignore butterfly's "advice" or any "advice" that it promotes and agrees with.

>> No.13931921

>>13923445
This only works with fascist levels of pleb control. Youll have hordes of sexually frustrated men of fighting age. Theyll find religion, or some extreme ideology to fill the hole left by being unable to fulfill the instinct to procreate. The arab spring was one example of violent uprising fueled by such.

>> No.13931925

>>13925291
Kindly contribute to the female suicide rate

>> No.13931928

>>13926853
I agree with her but shes got to submit to more rape and pillaging

>> No.13931937

>>13926882
>whats wrong with feminine society
>Recieves valid arguement with historic sources
>thats sexist you cant say that

>> No.13931938

Not even a leftist but

>>13923550
Based

>>13923590
Cringe

>> No.13931941

>>13923201

i can't consider a three-per-100k increase an increase the rate is just too low

>> No.13931946

>>13926947
> hypermasculine societies turn into Islamic Shitholes. Hyperfeminine turn into the same.
Hyperfeminie societies tend towards communism. Its female instinct to nuture the weak

>> No.13931951

>>13927075
Call me when the death rate approaches equal

>> No.13931953

>>13927140
Because thyre physically weaker

>> No.13931956

>>13927292
This is true today in capitalism

>> No.13933487
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13933487

>>13931921
the top tier men aren't selected by anyone but they rather always float to the top wherever you put them.
the situation described in >>13923445 is grotesquely similar to today but most people seem to accept this probably because they see that everyone has the same starting point yet chads always end up at the top. they can only blame themselves because the system gave them equal opportunities but they still failed. there is no system to revolt against, no man, no ideology, nothing to blame except god and yourself.
of course exceptions exist but those exception are strongly demonized in today's society and nonetheless they barely do anything other than further stigmatize themselves.
incels should just accept this and surrender, nature knows no honor or spirit or ego. samson took himself and everything with him to save fellow Israelites, incels aren't saving anyone when they destroy the pillars of society and nature