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[Anonymous No.13904699]

Cioran on Nietzsche, from The Trouble of Being Born:

>To a student who wanted to know my position about the author of Zarathustra, I answered that it has been a lot of time since I stopped frequenting him. Why? He asked me. Because I find him naive. I blame his infatuations and his fervors too. He pulled down idols only to replace them with other ones. A false iconoclast with adolescent traits and I don’t know what kind of virginity, what innocence related to his career of lone man. He observed men only from the distance. If he’d observed them closely he never could have conceived and celebrate the Ubermensch: a rummy vision, a laughable, if not grotesque, chimera or caprice that could only spring from the mind of someone who didn't have the time to live, to age, to know the real detachment and the long serene disgust. Marcus Aurelius is much more close to me. There’s no hesitation in me between the absolute lyricism of frenzy and the prose of acceptance. I find more comfort, and even more hope too, in a tired imperator than in a thunderstruck prophet.
Based

[Anonymous No.13904706]

Nietzsche was not a philosopher, he was dynamite.

[Anonymous No.13904718]

>>13904699
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE WILL TO POWER IS BULLSHIT FUCK YOU I CHOOSE MY OWN MORALS THERES NO SUCH THING AS RIGHT AND WRONG I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT AND WHAT BENEFITS MYSELF THE MOST ALSO GOD IS DEAD AND HE IS NEVER COMING BACK

[Anonymous No.13904719]

>>13904706
>I am dynamite
Not very familiar with N, did he ever intend to be a “philosopher” or did he just want to shake things up and tear things down? Haven’t read TSZ

[Anonymous No.13904723]

>>13904699
>and I don’t know what kind of virginity
What kinds of virginities exist, bros?

[Anonymous No.13904771]

>>13904699
Why is everyone always a pseud when it comes to discussing the overman? It wasn't idealism in the traditional sense that Nietzsche was fighting.

[Anonymous No.13904786]

>>13904723
you asking that question means that you retain at least one

[Anonymous No.13904792]

>>13904786
Yes, that's why I'm asking. I can speculate about multiplicities but then how are they named?

[Anonymous No.13904825]

>>13904699
Christian, All Too Christian

[Anonymous No.13904869]

>>13904719
>How to philosophize with a hammer

[Anonymous No.13906203]

>>13904706
>he was dynamite.
Anyone who has to say "I am dynamite" is a schoolgirl. Blake got to all of N's ideas first and treated them with greater subtlety.

[Anonymous No.13906229]

>>13904719
He wanted badly to be a philosopher, but really he ended up a minor thinker. He's a very amusing read for young people.

[Ippolit No.13906235]

>>13904699
well as a 22 year old, I much more identify with the role of tragic hero over tired imperator. to each his own, cioran

[Anonymous No.13906241]

>>13906235
>well as a 22 year old, I much more identify with the role of tragic hero
Nietzsche fans in a nut shell

[Ippolit No.13906264]

>>13906241
you act like this is a slight or something. why, at the dawn of my adult life, would I not empathize with those who rage against the despair of practicality? why would anyone? out of fear of coping? whatever, someone else can be afraid of that

[Anonymous No.13906314]

>>13906235
Sounds a lot like LARP and megalomania.

[Anonymous No.13906348]

>>13906203
>Blake got to all of N's ideas first and treated them with greater subtlety.
lol

[Ippolit No.13906362]

>>13906314
personally I take more from Kierkegaard's tragic hero than Nietzsche's example, and I'm nowhere near as bitter, but Nietzsche does have a searing wit that reminds me of the lads, and a melancholy of one who knows he is not of this world but does not know how to break out of his shell. It's extremely relatable, and there is at least the faintest glimmer of hope, which is magnitudes more than the other existentialists have given me (aside Kierkegard and Dostoyevsky who show that existence is meaningless without redemption/vindication. They are not content to imagine themselves happy).

[Anonymous No.13906431]

>>13906362
hope is a slave virtue

[Anonymous No.13906449]

>>13906348
>lol
lol

[Ippolit No.13906460]

>>13906431
lmao! everyone point at this anon and laugh

[Anonymous No.13906463]

>>13906431
>if I assume Nietzsche is right then Nietzsche is right
great post retard

[Anonymous No.13906663]

any other authors with similar view of religion as cioran?

[Anonymous No.13906757]

>cioran
Whomst?

[Anonymous No.13907519]

I enjoy Cio and Nietzsche aforism a lot. For me, both are based.