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I suffer because I feel lonely.
I'm kissless virgin. I've never had a girlfriend, but when I look around and start to analyze couples, I see that they're always bickering, always worried about this or that. Always worried about money. Most of them don't even look happy, at least on the outside.
Romantic love is dead. The only thing that holds couples together are sex and the fear of loneliness.
And it makes me wonder if it is worth dedicating my time, energy and so on to another person. I'm unhappy because I'm lonely, but I think I'd still be unhappy AND stressed if I had a girlfriend. Sure there would be moments of pleasure, love, satisfaction, a shelter. But these moments are rarer than moments of boredom and stressful situations, at least through my observation.

And this reminds me of this quote by Kierkegaard:

"If you marry, you will regret it; if you do not marry, you will also regret it; if you marry or do not marry, you will regret both; Laugh at the world’s follies, you will regret it, weep over them, you will also regret that; laugh at the world’s follies or weep over them, you will regret both; whether you laugh at the world’s follies or weep over them, you will regret both. Believe a woman, you will regret it, believe her not, you will also regret that; believe a woman or believe her not, you will regret both; whether you believe a woman or believe her not, you will regret both. Hang yourself, you will regret it; do not hang yourself, and you will also regret that; hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret both; whether you hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret both. This, gentlemen, is the sum and substance of all philosophy."
- Kierkegaard

>> No.13902599

>>13902580
projection

>> No.13902603

>>13902599
?

>> No.13902648
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>>13902580
I don't know anon. I see young college couples all the time at my place of work and they seem pretty happy, at least on the surface. Sure they may be bickering and bitching at each other behind closed doors all the time but seeing them out in public only makes me even more depressed knowing that I completely missed out on young love.

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>>13902580
artists name?

>> No.13902728 [DELETED] 

>>13902718
jerekaya atustan

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>>13902718
Edvard Munch.
My favorite painter.

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>>13902741
i got it thanks

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no gf, less responsibilities.

>> No.13902755

>>13902648
Just date a college girl lol

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>>13902648
Dedicate yourself to a life of solitude.

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>>13902790
>>13902753
>solitude
But that also would make me suffer.
I think getting a gf is the least of the two evils. Or maybe it's just my natural male instincts trying to trick me.

Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_fatale

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>>13902815
>two evils
One is the virtuous path and the other is a pipedream.

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>>13902815
Marlboros are such shit

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>>13902580
I used to think being a virgin with no gf was bad, and then I acquired neurological damage. Now I'm in pain every waking hour. Still a virgin too but I could care less.

You won't be able to be grateful for what you have until you realize how much worse it could get, and then it'll be too late. I'd say that I hope you don't end up like me but I really don't give a damn either way.

>> No.13902833

>>13902829
Lucky Strikes >

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>>13902830
>neurological damage
What happen

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>>13902833
Lucky Strikes don't last as long though

>> No.13902847

>>13902830
You do give a damn because you relate to my post.

>> No.13902848

>>13902580
I'm 43 and starting a new relationship (after >10 years of solitude) with an old flame from ~20 years ago. AMA

>> No.13902868

>>13902580
Your perceptions are objectively false, and that's no surprise since you're a kissless virgin who's not speaking from experience. Finding a compatible life partner drastically alleviates feelings of anxiety, boredom, loneliness, and angst. My advice to you is to set aside your pessimism and try to find love while you still can.

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>>13902848
Do you feel happier or at least less or not lonely?

>> No.13902900

>>13902868
This is was written by a female.
Women are not welcome in my threads.

>> No.13902931

>>13902894
Sort of. It's somewhat of a novelty again right now, and at the same time I know it's a double-edged sword as Kierkegaard alludes to.But since I'm a lot more wiser and mature now, I'm going to be the one who works hard to keep it fun and interesting and balanced. Romance movies are a lie, and solitude can be ok.

>> No.13902950

>>13902900
I'm a 28 year old man who was just engaged to his girlfriend today. So yeah, I'm riding the high from that and maybe I'm biased, but I know a hell of a lot more about romance than some kissless virgin loser who wants to give up on happiness because he's too lazy to take risks, or maybe too afraid to live a life

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>>13902931
You sound like a very self-aware and wise person. Thanks.
>>13902950
You sound like a low IQ normie trying to subtly mock a virgin for being virgin.

>> No.13902995

>>13902972
I'm mocking him because he's trying to write off female companionship based off his shallow observations, having never actually experienced female companionship. He's navel gazing and self-pitying while trying to justify his failures. I'm just sick of seeing MGTOW faggots being memed into throwing away their future.

>> No.13903000

>>13902972
>You sound like a very self-aware and wise person. Thanks.
Thanks and you're welcome.
Just know that loneliness is pervasive. We are all alone in some sense, apparently the worst being even when surrounded by other people. That's either depression or the human condition.

But having a significant other, especially the "right one", with all it's stresses and responsibilities, can be rewarding. It's the little things it brings, I guess. It's best to have low expectations also.

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>tfw no girlfriend but wait this should be a lit thread so heres a kierkegaard quote

>> No.13903010

>>13903003
And a shitty one at that

>> No.13903024

>>13903000
>It's the little things it brings, I guess. It's best to have low expectations also.
Yeah, thanks for the advice.

Enjoying life without too much expectation must sounds like the best approach to any ambitious idea.

>> No.13903130

who gives a shit

life is gay. we are all just waiting to die anyways

ive had a partner, and ive been single. both are shit. kirkegard is right here.

i dont know why im on this earth right now. one day the journey will be over, thankfully.

>> No.13903140

>>13903130
based and blackpilled

>> No.13903142

>>13903130
i wake up every day, go to useless uni, surrounded by a bunch of foreigners.

i do this so i can go work as a "project co-ordinator" for some faggot conglomerate.

then i "get" to retire and sit around in boredom until i die.

everything is a cope. sex is a waste. relationship sucks, being single sucks. hooking up leaves me feeling empty and worse than jerking off. money is worthelss. church is pretty gay too.

but what is there to do about this... i'll go to sleep tonight and wake up tommorow and live out another day of this useless existence.

repeat until i die.

>> No.13903188

>>13902580
There is cure. Make HER suffer. Someone have to suffer for other to be happy. Or have relationship on higher spiritual level then just desires of the flesh.

>> No.13903198

>>13902580
>Ohhh noooo I don't have a girlfriend! I officially have the worst life in the world!
Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot. I would love to show you what true pain is.

>> No.13903208

>>13903198
Well, I've experienced appendicitis and will probably get cancer because I smoke too much.

>> No.13903219

>>13902830
Based.
>>13902847
Delusional faggot. There will be a time in your life where you realize how stupid you were for thinking that virginity is painful. You will feel pains a thousand times worse than this. BOOHOO IM A VIRGIN I HAVE IT SO BAD. Get the fuck over yourself.

>> No.13903245

>>13903208
Wow how sad......... Do you want me to pat you on the back? Give me your address. I'll show you what a truly deranged person looks like.

>> No.13903280

>>13903245
Nothing's more painful than cancer.

>> No.13903284

>>13903245
LOL

based

>> No.13903296

>>13902580
I believe that romantic love is absolutely possible and have unironically had now terminated sexual relationships with biological females of the opposite sex that I am happy to have been able to experience. The possibility of romantic love is just horribly crippled by digitization and the increased real space between people.

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Is there anybody on this board who isn't completely miserable?

>> No.13903304

>>13903301
Everybody everywhere is miserable

>> No.13903310

>>13903301
no.

modernity is misery.

one day i wanna start a farm and shovel pig shit all day.

>> No.13903318

>>13903301
No, unfortunately.
It's full of women, philistines and people with low IQ who still watch anime.

>> No.13903319

>>13903296
One of my complaints with contemporary life is it’s “cramped” nature. If we develop new idea’s at a geometrically exponential rate, then the corollaries of empiricism and abstractions drive us schizophrenic even faster. To truly grapple with the universe is within our reach, but any further theoretical push might start mentally breaking people if we don’t start increasing the general public’s mental health without resorting to genocide.

>> No.13903320

>>13903318
I meant to say YES. there are

Fuck.

>> No.13903327

>>13903320
turns out you are one of us smooth brains after all

>> No.13903330

>>13903320
Retard.

>> No.13903357

>>13902580
>quoting Johannes the Seducer
Go read Kierkegaard's Christian Discourses

>> No.13903408

>>13902580
Why have confidence in what would have been assumptions if you didn't make them statements that are painful to you?
I'd assume pleasant humility was desirable.

>> No.13903884

>>13902580
The fact that you believe that tarnishing your virginity, and having a "girlfriend", may potentially make you happy, and that happiness would relieve you of your loneliness in the first place, indicates that you are willingly unselfconscious & unselfreliant, i.e.: wilfully weak & pathetic.

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>> No.13903960

>>13903952
>>13902580

>> No.13904024

>In group therapy, discussion turns to issues of sex and relationships
>Say sex should ideally be between consenting, committed partners, that there is no "free" love because of biological, chemical, and emotional factors, and that therefore one should have morally responsible sex
>Get weird looks
>Group goes on to talking about how this or that friend was hurt by someone using them for sex, unfulfilling casual sex, etc.
I felt like I was getting gaslit.

>> No.13904037

>>13904024
It's the uncomfortable truth that everyone knows but prefers not to see because it goes against the socially accepted narrative. They are gaslighting themselves, and you only by extension.

>> No.13904067

>>13904037
I don't pretend to understand it, and I would love to read more books that contend with 21st century "love" - but I don't read much contemporary literature. I bet there's a lot given how common an experience it is, though.

>> No.13904093

>>13904067
There's not much to understand beyond what you yourself said, that free love is not actually free. You just need to carefully follow the implications, going against both the flow of the narrative and your own longing for easy pleasure. Saying to a modern person that casual sex is more often harmful than not is akin to saying to an alcoholic (at the stage of his alcoholism where he keeps denying he's one) that unchecked alcohol consumption is more often harmful than not.