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13902429 No.13902429 [Reply] [Original]

Is he right?

>> No.13902437

>>13902429
I think so.

>> No.13902446

>Blinded by storge
It can be true. It isn’t always.

>> No.13902447

Yes.

>> No.13902489

>>13902446
And I suppose you're living a wholesome existence when you've wasted years of your life on this board?

>> No.13902798

>>13902429
based

>> No.13902804

Very rarely. Being from a high IQ WASP family connected to tradition, I can see why he would think that

>> No.13902808

>>13902429
It's true in my experience.

>> No.13902828

>>13902429
Yes, but not same-sex couple families.

>> No.13902920
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13902920

>>13902489
Really besides the point, anon.
Some families are quite broken, so the blanket statement might just as easily be followed up with “...at least it can be if a given family isn’t as heartless as the world it finds itself in”.
Lasch seemed sensible enough to know this

>> No.13902930

>>13902828
Says an incel with a collection of ‘women rekt’ webms

>> No.13902943

>>13902930
owned that maga chud

>> No.13902951

>>13902828
What if the woman is transgender? I'm thinking about marrying a transwoman.

>> No.13902968

>>13902951
then it's not a woman, you're just gay

>> No.13902970

>>13902968
But could my family with her be a haven in a heartless world?

>> No.13902979

>>13902429
midwit. you clearly haven't read the book which is about the rise (and decline) of the bourgeois notion of the family as a haven in a heartless world

>> No.13903016

>>13902943
>implying Lasch would ever think highly of Trump

>> No.13903017

>>13902979
That still exists just not in middle class, upper middle class at the very least if not full on ivy league wasp.

>> No.13903021

>>13903016
I read Lasch during 2016, isn't Trump literally the rise in working class populism that Lasch had spent his entire life calling forth?

>> No.13903022

>>13902970
You can't have a family when you sabotage and mutilate your own gear.

>> No.13903026

>>13903022
She's keeping her penis.

>> No.13903029

>>13903021
No, he's very much Reagan 2.0 ,who Lasch hated.

>> No.13903032

>>13903029
Trump is the death of Reagan politics.

>> No.13903039

>>13903032
No he isn't. Did you forget Trump's tax cuts for the rich?

>> No.13903051

the world is not heartless, it simply is. it's family that itself adds heart. we perceive the world as heartless precisely because we grew up in the comfort of family

to those abnormal people from abnormal families, I feel truly sorry. but in some way they're stronger than all of us because they never experienced what love is, so they do not feel lost without it

>> No.13903053

>>13903029
The free market aggressive foreign intervention, both central tenets of reaganism, are no longer the central tenets of republicanism. Now its primarily about protecting American workers, immigration protection, and moderate isolationism.

>> No.13903062

>>13903039
Forget a tradewar and a questioning of free trade agreements in general?

>> No.13903070

>>13903039
Forget tariffs?

>> No.13903080

>>13903062
>>13903070
He's still swindling Americans with trickle down economics, the central tenet of Reaganism.

>> No.13903090

>>13902446
It's questionable if it's even a family if it's not a haven for you.

>> No.13903114

why are there no good conservatives in america anymore

>> No.13903117

>>13903114
Because they worship money.

>> No.13903164

>>13903080
>trickle down economics
Thats not even Reagan's economic beliefs are, thats what lefitsts propagandized his beliefs as and then somehow deluded themselves as being his actual beliefs. I don't care for free market fundamentalism, but jesus christ get a grip and take a econ 101 course.

Anyway thats not what Trump talks about. At most if at all if he has to include that stuff its an aside. He is cheered on for his immigration and trade policies. As far as the future image of the republican party, its as a nationalist workers party.

>> No.13903170
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13903170

>>13903114
Theres Buchanan.

>> No.13903176

>>13903164
What Trump talks about is immaterial. We need to look at what he does, and that's cut taxes for the rich but not the rest of us. And though he's made efforts to bring manufacturing back to the US I don't know how you can call the future of the Republican Party a nationalist workers party. Unions are dead and Republicans still oppose raising the minimum wage. Trump's economy is a gig economy, which is terrible for workers.

>> No.13903231

>>13903176
>muh tax policies
literally a tiny part of the administration done at the beginning of his administration to get support from establishment republicans that largely left the party in 2018.

If you want to talk actions vs words thats literally 1 action. Though I'd argue words in this case are more important, as Trump's voice is infinitely more important then if he even actually built the wall.

>> No.13903283

>>13903231
You can trivialize his tax policies all you want but you're failing to understand that those policies underscore who his real allegiance is with. With his endless contradictions and evasions, his cheap sales pitches, I don't know how you can trust the guy, or how you've convinced yourself that there's a coherent vision behind all his hollow talk. Trump fails and fails and fails then has a minor victory and suddenly his supporters think he's playing 4D chess. He's not even playing chess. He doesn't know the rules of the game.

>> No.13903355

>>13903283
>allegiance
Anon do you honestly think anyone is controlling Trump? You said it yourself he doesnt know the rules of the game. I don't trust him I just know him, he wants to be historically remembered, he couldnt care less about the tax policy which he has not talked about since it past, that was simply and attempt at a truce with the establishment which they apprently didnt take.

>> No.13903387

>>13903021
To an extent, but it's not really in the form he described. The biggest curveball is the internet and global media. That's what caused the "populist spring", and Lasch died before it really took off the way it did in the 90s