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Goddamn...

>> No.13894126

Crime and Punishment seems like a pretty cool guy. Eh kills old lady and doesn't afraid of anythign

>> No.13894140

>>13894112
My only gripe was Sonya. I just couldn't really imagine a person being as selfless and pure as her. Though I might just be a cynic.

>> No.13894162

>>13894126
Yes, he even has hot sister.

>> No.13894167

>>13894140
I think it's perfectly believable. It's rare but it's not impossible.

Also can anyone give me their thoughts on the epilogue? Does raskolnikov just convert? Is there supposed to be a symbolism or meaning or something, or is it just some kind of Christian moral?

>> No.13894172

>>13894140
Sonya is just religious plus willing to make sacrifices for her family. That's not so rare a combination (not that it is any less admirable for it), though it rarely goes to Sonya's extreme. I don't find her particularly unbelievable.

>> No.13894342

>>13894167
His dream just showed him that his philosophy will lead to more and more suffering. In the end he just decided to pursuit being a good man.

>> No.13894417

>>13894112
Is this the only big Dostoevsky work which ends with positive ending? I mean in Brothers K only Aliosha gets somewhat positive one and the rest is negative , in Idiot Myskin ends up in asylum again , Notes from Underground he's distances himself from world even more and Demons Nikolai hangs himself

>> No.13894445

Couldn't finish it too boring and meandering desu like the part where the brother in law comes. Nigga I don't care about the mother sister and her fiance just wanna see what happens to Radiovich. Anyway couldn't finish it. Couldn't finish the idiot either this man was adhd when he wrote

>> No.13894475
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13894475

This is one of the books that changed my life. I read it when I was an edgy teenager, and my way of thinking was very close to that of Raskolnikov.

Reading it humbled me, and brought me that one step closer to god.

>> No.13894528

>>13894475
Ah. Now I understand why I had trouble relating and immersing myself into this book. I wasn’t an edgy napoleonic little boy when I read it.

>> No.13894820

>>13894167
>Does Raskolnikov just convert?
No, but the seed is planted in him for it to germinate, the narrator ends the story before we see that transformation because it would've another full story in itself.
>Is there supposed to be a symbolism or meaning or something, or is it just some kind of Christian moral?
As >>13894342 pointed out, his philosophy will germinate everywhere and cause much suffering, as it arguably happened in reality (Dosto would certainly say it did).
Raskolnikov in prison will begin to reform under Sonya's love for him.

>> No.13896190

>>13894417
It's more of a bittersweet ending than a positive one.
One interesting note about Brothers K - Dostoevsky originally planned for that work to be first in a trilogy that would be called "Life of a great Sinner" and he planed to have Aliosha become a revolutionary in the second part of the trilogy; I think he wanted him to lose his faith and become an atheist and then in the end he would find God again.

>> No.13897903

that feel

>> No.13897913

>>13894528
lame-o soccer dad

>> No.13897920

Bros, is Notes from the Underground supposed to be good?
It's a chore to read

>> No.13898714

>>13897920
>It's a chore to read
What the hell, I finished it in a few hours

>> No.13898732
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13898732

>>13894417
Based spoiler blocker
Haven’t read TBK yet. You’re the best

>> No.13898798

>>13897920
First part might be a drag if you're not socially reclusive person.

>> No.13899477

>>13898714
>>13898798
Yeah, the first part was terrible.
Everything went smooth after it

>> No.13900099

Preferred translations?

>> No.13900247

>>13900099
David McDuff or Jessie Coulson

>> No.13900554

>>13894112
Incredible book. I’ve heard critiques that it’s too on the nose but I think that’s a strong point personally.
C&P > Brothers K > Demons > Notes >>> Idiot

>> No.13900789

I could not understand it so I gave up 30 pages in

>> No.13901131

>>13900247
More like McBUFF, amirite?

>> No.13901250

>>13900554
No way anon.
Brothers K > Idiot > C&P > Demons > Notes.
You almost had it right.

>> No.13901387

>>13894112
Crime and Punishment: the Crime being naively believing Dostoyevsky to be a good writer, the due Punishment being having to read through the entirety of it without killing yourself.