/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13887254]

>Dude define your own meaning!
Really?

This is who you worship?

[Anonymous No.13887266]

>>13887254
Beats nihilism if successful. That's the minimum meaning, at least.
However, I think it's a fool's errand. We can't exactly define our own meaning. We either know we failed at life or we know we lived the life we wanted.

[Anonymous No.13887283]

Act according to your own nature*
ftfy

[Anonymous No.13887284]

>>13887254
>This is who you worship?
Not worship, but highly respect, yes. In a world where everything about the human experience is determined by genetics, where everything is evolving and becoming less and less equal, where power is the only seemingly plausible type of gravity that the will can experience, where we are likely not alone in this galaxy of ours, the only philosophy that makes any sense is the one that embraces what the meek would call "evil."

[Anonymous No.13887305]

>>13887254
t. Untermensch

[Anonymous No.13887313]

>>13887305
t. Idiot who believes in fairytale made up terms

[Anonymous No.13887314]

>>13887284
>where power is the only seemingly plausible type of gravity that the will can experience
Not true. Music and aesthetics, art and beauty - those validate existence even without power. In fact, they are what power should be used for - something all democracies fail to do, but all monarchies succeeded in.

[Anonymous No.13887318]

not literature

[Anonymous No.13887331]

>>13887313
Not going to make it

[Anonymous No.13887335]

>>13887254
I was always bothered by this kind of sentiment on /lit/.
>Don't read Plato, Aristotle, the Stoics, Epicurus, etc create your own values
Those guys were pretty smart and can teach you lots of things. Ignoring what they spent their whole lives and going from "zero" (or negative, given how bad our modern culture is) seems like a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.13887348]

>>13887318
Your mother has a hairy snatch

[Anonymous No.13887357]

>>13887314
Nietzsche had a whole theory of aesthetics that related it to power.

[Anonymous No.13887398]

>>13887357
At that point it suffers from the same problem as materialism; that all is defined through one value. Either the value changes accordingly to match the requirements placed upon it by all existence or it denies reality and forces a view on it that conforms to its meaning.

[Anonymous No.13887435]

>>13887254
I'm pretty sure he rejected teleology altogether

[Anonymous No.13887556]

>>13887335
Nietzsche argued against them and their philosophy but I dont remember him saying dont read them. I certainly would have never made such a statement. Nietzsche was a Classics professor after all and I believe he even taught as class on Plato.

[Anonymous No.13887567]

>>13887556
Certainly. And they would argue back, just like they (or their disciples) argued against each other.
This is not a criticism of Nietzsche, but of his "cultists" on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.13887726]

>>13887254
Unparalleled folly.

[Anonymous No.13887765]

>>13887254
Nietzsche was not a cumbrain existentialist, most people just don't understand him right. He is not telling you to create your own meaning, he is telling you to prepare for the Übermensch, the human to come, to live your life towards this development, which means to let go of views and including that the attachment to values and norms, not to make up your own instead, which will be a regress. The Übermensch is the one who sets new values, as he is the spontaneous expression of the unadulterated will. This setting of new values is not postulation of norms for his own life though, it is merely a naturalized form of morality that precedes any conceptualization.

[Anonymous No.13887802]

>>13887765
Sounds like a load of pseud wank

[Anonymous No.13887835]

>>13887765
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.13888530]

>>13887835

[Anonymous No.13888545]

>>13887254
>create* your own meaning
important difference

[Anonymous No.13888630]

>>13887283
Define nature

[Anonymous No.13888637]

>>13887835
What about my post made you think I belong on /pol/? There is not an ounce of political ideology in it to be found. Consider Reddit.

>>13887802
It always does to people who don't read.

[Anonymous No.13888646]

Not like you have a choice in this anyway. You fucking Nigger

[Anonymous No.13888653]

>>13888530
lmao
you do realise that hammer and sickle are photoshopped on, right?

[Anonymous No.13888714]

>>13887254
>Dude define your own meaning!
I've only read BG&E but what I got from it was that he hopes for a modern iteration of the great leaders of old, who shaped society in their image by creating enduring systems of values. Not in a reactionary sense of trying to LARP as Romans or something but creating something new. This is a political process, and not something that's down to the individual.

[Anonymous No.13888764]

>>13888653

[Anonymous No.13888783]

>>13887254
0/10 troll

[Anonymous No.13888792]

>>13887254
>Dude I didn't read it!

[Anonymous No.13888795]

>>13887313
t. christian

[Anonymous No.13888810]

>dude just turn your brain off, never enjoy yourself and let everyone walk all over you
Really?

This is who you worship?

[Anonymous No.13888836]

>>13887254
Jesus Fucking Crist im sick and tired of these Nietzsche threads full of blockheads that probably havent read a single fucking work of him. And either larp as some super Nietzchean fans or anti-Nietzscheans.

[Anonymous No.13888876]

>>13887284
how old are you?

[Anonymous No.13888941]

>>13887398
Nietzsche's philosophy of power is reality. It's flawless.

[Anonymous No.13888942]

>>13888836
>crist
Go back to your tree, pedro. White Men are talking.

[Anonymous No.13889209]

>>13887266
It is philosophical nihilism. All nihilism means is that you acknowledge that meaning/values aren't universal externals, but are rather expressions of our very nature. Nihilism doesn't proscribe assigning value and meaning, it simply recognizes the correct provenance.

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>>13888630
I will, thank you.

[Anonymous No.13889235]

Imagine being that murrican, so you can't even comprehend that some philosophy isn't meant for mass use.

[Anonymous No.13889237]

>>13889220
No :3

[Anonymous No.13889575]

>>13887313
t.untermensch

[Anonymous No.13889578]

>>13889575
t. coward pseud, just like Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.13889586]

>>13887254
>Nietzsche was an existentialist
He was a fatalist.

[Anonymous No.13889833]

>>13888876
27, why? Do you have a problem with that sentiment?

[Anonymous No.13889841]

Nietzsche is a total dead end desu. There’s no moving on to any utopian ubermensh era, there is only stagnation. What’s more, that faggot created a dichotomy that traps you if you take him seriously, that can’t practically be transcended, which is why all Nietzscheans fall back into nihilism

[Anonymous No.13889896]

>>13889841
You're wrong on all accounts.

>There’s no moving on to any utopian ubermensh era, there is only stagnation.
Why do you think that? Because it has already started to happen since Nietzsche was alive. This is going to take centuries, if not longer, to fully propagate. The Crusades were the height of the Christian period of the history of Europe and it took many centuries after before they happened. It's not like Nietzsche's philosophy was shoehorned into history, either; he based it all on genuine philosophical and cultural paradigm shifts in the West that he was observing.

>What’s more, that faggot created a dichotomy that traps you if you take him seriously, that can’t practically be transcended, which is why all Nietzscheans fall back into nihilism
What dichotomy? This is also more or less applicable to every philosophy ever.