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[Anonymous No.13881555]

Anti-tech messiah when? What will this man look like? What should you accomplish to become one?

[Anonymous No.13881583]

If anybody is interested in actually seeking out other similar minded individuals in an attempt to get organized send a PM to /u/green1wind on reddit. We have had irregular meetings in the past and one will likely be coming up soon.

Also if you are unaware of what OP is talking about start by reading Industrial Society and It's Future and then move on to Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How. Follow with his other works.

Also check out /r/procollapse, there is also a discord.

[Anonymous No.13881596]

>>13881555
The only hope primitivism has is nuclear war, and even then, if humans do survive and the planet recovers we'll just return to technology.

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[Anonymous No.13881607]

>>13881596
>The only hope primitivism has is nuclear war, and even then, if humans do survive and the planet recovers we'll just return to technology.

This was the opinion of, for example, the late distinguished astronomer
Fred Hoyle (Hoyle, p. 62). The argument is that, due to the exhaustion of such
natural resources as readily accessible deposits of coal, oil, and high-grade metallic
ores, there could not be a new Industrial Revolution; consequently, there could
never again be a technologically advanced society. Unfortunately, I can’t agree with
this. I think it’s all too possible that a technologically advanced society might be
developed without “coal, oil, and high-grade metallic ores,” especially since there
would be a vast amount of scrap metal left over from the previous technological
society. But it’s certainly true that the development of a technologically advanced
society would be much slower and more difficult the second time around due to
the lack of coal, oil, etc. - Kaczynski

[Anonymous No.13881611]

Unabomber but succeed

[Anonymous No.13881615]

>>13881596
If the system were thoroughly broken down the effect would
be—at least for a long time—irreversible, because it would take several
hundred years or more for a new technological system to develop.
people even believe that a technological system could never again be created
on Earth. 162

[Anonymous No.13881619]

>>13881583
Le reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.13881621]

Unless we purposefully make it happen, which is literally never going to happen, it is literally never going to happen

[Anonymous No.13881629]

>>13881555
Greta thunberg

[Anonymous No.13881634]

>>13881621
Stop pretending being a pessimistic loser is cool. It is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIcUBd-5fk

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[Anonymous No.13881658]

>>13881555
>>13881649
>>13881652

To actually answer your original question OP self-discipline is one of the most important skills to aspire to.

[Anonymous No.13881722]

>>13881555
What would be some authors related to this movement? Are Linkola and Ellul in the same wheelhouse?

[Anonymous No.13881725]

imagine being so reactionary you want to go back to the stoneage lmao

[Anonymous No.13881802]

>>13881722
>Ellul
Yes
>Linkola
Yes, but less so

[Anonymous No.13882205]

>>13881583
Figures you fags are from redd*t

[Anonymous No.13882956]

>>13881607
Where is that quote from? I've thought about this a lot and I don't see how Ted could think that another technological society could be developed just because there's lots of scrap metal laying around.

[Anonymous No.13884187]

>>13881658
Is self-discipline even possible? At my point the only way is too find people who will force me to do things until I will be able to discipline myself, e.g. create an activity club.

[Anonymous No.13884838]

>>13882956
I don't know where the quote is from but he has implied before that technological advancements and processes are a somewhat "natural" progression and that's why all references to advanced/industrial technology need to be gotten rid of, because in the event that the slate was wiped clean, people in the post-industrial/technological world could find references to or artifacts of technology and use that to start the whole system up again. Or something along those lines.

[Anonymous No.13885012]

>>13882956
>>13884838
The quote is from Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How

[Anonymous No.13885314]

>>13885012
Thanks, I have a copy but it's been a few years since I read it.
>>13884838
Yeah I know what you mean, I just don't see how a second industrial revolution is possible (assuming reversion to pre-industrial society). The industrial revolution was in part only possible because of easily accessible fossil fuels like coal and later oil. Most of these resources now are difficult to access without advanced techniques like fracking and offshore drilling, all of which require a large industrial society to do. I could see local communities making use of basic principles of modern electronics for lighting or simple power generation for example however.