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Is 'riding the tiger' the ultimate redpill?

>> No.13870045

Throwing out reactionary trash and reading actual theory is the ultimate redpill.

>> No.13870070
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>>13870045
Caesarism will eventually come back, whether you like it or not. Daily reminder.

>> No.13870079

>>13870070
cyclical history is retarded

>> No.13870107

>>13870079
It actually makes a lot of sense.

>> No.13870193

>>13870107
if you are simple minded

>> No.13870199

>>13870193
If you observe history.

>> No.13870323

>>13870045
>Reading actual """"""theory""""""

don't forget that theory, the theory that you're speaking of, is a relatively recent and highly subversive phenomenon founded almost entirely by marxists and jews. stop pretending its prestigious or more legitimate than any other form of sociology or philosophy. it's not.

>> No.13870337

>>13870079
Linear history is dumber though.

>> No.13870345

Why can't you retards finally admit that history doesn't make sense and that we simply don't know where the fuck we're going.

>> No.13870377

>>13870323
But at least it’s not retarded new age mumbo-jumbo like Evola. As bad as theory can be sometimes, Evola is just a notch removed from juvenile Lord of the Rings LARPing like Varg’s garbage or bullshit like Aleister Crowley or Blavatsky without Crowley’s sense of humour or Blavatsky’s spastic weirdness.

>> No.13870387

>>13870337
I didnt say anything about linear history
>>13870323
which you have read none of

>> No.13870770

>>13870387
Funny you should say that, seeing as I've read adorno, Deleuze, and Foucault, and you haven't read Evola.

>> No.13870778

>>13870387
>dude lmfao we can just keep growing forever fuck yeah capitalism
I never get why people who aren't gazillionaires are Liberals. Perhaps a leather fetish drives them to lick boots?

>> No.13870795

>>13870778
I literally said nothing about that

>> No.13870810

please see the gif in the OP, faggots. honkler jumps around riding the tiger. cheers to whoever made it.

>> No.13870817

>>13870323
This.

>> No.13870837

>>13870778
Most liberals are just afraid that going far right or left is going to lead to a disaster and bloodshed. It's a basically centrist position, and the 20th century does give them a bit of an argument.

It's a naive view because liberal states don't just stay how they are, they move in a predictable direction that eventually undermines the system they liked in the first place, but this could be said of practically any form of government/economy.

>> No.13870874

>>13870795
You literally did, though, when you stated that you're implicitly a liberal.

Why are you so afraid of even the notion of not being part of the herd? Does the yoke around your neck weigh so much that you cannot even consider to raise it up and look around you?

>> No.13870884

>>13870874
unless you're some outlaw bank robber or a warlord you're still part of a herd

>> No.13871525

>>13870884
wow so deep bro

>> No.13871533

>>13871525
Same level as depth as saying belonging to society is being a herd.

>> No.13871545

>>13870045
>saying reactionary like it's a bad thing

>> No.13871848

>>13870070
What's the relationship between Evola and Spengler?

>> No.13871875

>>13870024
Yes and no.

>> No.13871889

>>13871875
care to elaborate?

>> No.13871902
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>>13870377
Oh, how I despise you.

>> No.13871971

>>13871902
Not him but he has a point and so do you. Evola is shit tier even if he is heading in turn right direction. He is a midwit, or at best an idiot savant. Inferior in all ways to Guenon which is not only more intelligent but much more lucid. Evola has the physiognomy of a car mechanic. Guenon looks like a genius.

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>>13871889
"Riding the tiger" is a really vague imperative that doesn't elaborate a clear path of action. It's only a redpill if it bears meaning; in other words, while it points out what is to be ridden (the tiger), it doesn't teach you how to ride. Learning how to ride is the only-just-implied redpill in this imperative. But I dare say that many who think they're riding the tiger are already in its claws; or else they may even be the tiger's claws themselves.

>> No.13871986

>>13871971
What was Guéno's solution? Converting to Islam?

>> No.13872002

>>13870107
>>13870079
>>13870070

Reading Man And His Technics should be a requirement for posting in Spengler threads.

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>>13870024
The ultimate redpill is to see modernity as something that has to be surpassed, but which was necessary for taking the next step towards a new restoration of the traditional values. Finally denying both Modernity and the Ancient Regime.

>> No.13872040

>>13871986
No.
Guenon thought traditional Catholicism was the best religion for Europe

>> No.13872048

>>13872040
Do as I say not as I do, I suppose?

>> No.13872050

>>13872040
Why did he LARP as a Muslim then?

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>>13870079
willful ignorance is also retarded

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>>13872040
>>13872050
>>13871986
Guénon and Evola shit all over Catholicism. I don't think either of them liked it. This is one of the reasons I don't take them too seriously. They seem to love all religions, EXCEPT Catholicism. This is more true for Evola than Guénon. Guénon seemed to like Catholicism but thought it was lacking an initiatory side. That's why he converted to Islam supposedly >>13872050, in order to find an unbroken initiatory chain. I think his choice was lamentable. Imagine leaving the one true religion in order to larp as an "initiated one" among copper-toned Egyptians. Sad!

>> No.13872113

>>13871902
Massive cringe alert
Scurry back to your trash board

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>>13871971
>>13872113
I was moreso hating on him for his passive nods to Blavatsky and Crowley, who I hate. Evola is not on their depth of shitty nonsense, he at least writes well and does not claim to have met demonic apparitions.
I am also not /pol/ incarnate, I am an Evola fan but also a Deleuze/Guattari fan.