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Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:32:28 2019 No.13828091 [DELETED]

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I want to start believing in God.
Where do I start?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:34:21 2019 No.13828103 >>13828091 You ever notice how in this painting God is reaching out to Adam but Adam doesn't reach back for God?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:34:34 2019 No.13828106 >>13828091 You already know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:35:11 2019 No.13828108 >>13828091 Lobotomy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:38:54 2019 No.13828124 >>13828103 Does that mean Adam is a traitor? I'm supposed to hate him, right? Could you tell me more facts like this which will lead me through life?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:39:00 2019 No.13828125 >>13828091 Sumerian paganism. Not what you expected, but you'll see what I mean.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:46:20 2019 No.13828160

>>13828091
Here's 3 really good Christian books that solidified my faith :
Blaise Pascal - Pensées
The Journals of Kierkegaard
Kierkegaard - Fear and Trembling

The book that personally made me dive into faith was The Kybalion by Three Initiates, it's a somewhat recent hermetic text but it lays foundations for supernatural beliefs.

You shouldn't start by believing in God, but by having faith in God. Big difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:51:46 2019 No.13828196 >>13828091 Retard of retards, that is you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:59:40 2019 No.13828244 >>13828091 Critias (dialogue)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:09:48 2019 No.13828299 File: 2.22 MB, 413x240, 1536673917289.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:14:30 2019 No.13828330 >>13828124 No It's meant to make you reflect. How many times did God reach for you and you ignored him? Once you're appropriately humbled by the realization of your own brainlettism, You can start praying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:20:04 2019 No.13828363 >>13828160 I also started with the Kybalion and moved on to Pensées. The Kybalion is more of a humbling experience that makes you question your position on metaphysical claims, not necessarily guiding you into any one direction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:24:03 2019 No.13828390 File: 8 KB, 300x300, benjamin-franklin-wc-9301234-1-402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13828363 >Kybalion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:26:35 2019 No.13828409 >>13828390 How am I supposed to respond to this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:26:59 2019 No.13828410 >>13828160 with all these lit guides and so on we should probably make a mega folder for them or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:28:15 2019 No.13828417 >>13828091 I dont think you can rationalize faith.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:31:39 2019 No.13828434 File: 84 KB, 1563x961, hack.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13828409

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:32:00 2019 No.13828438 With yourself

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:32:03 2019 No.13828439

>>13828417
If that were the case then you could not rationalize your choice of object in which you have faith. It’s not as if you apply faith randomly to whatever it latches onto. Otherwise we would have millions of religions, and no dominating religions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:34:59 2019 No.13828453 >>13828439 I meant that faith is something largely irrational.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:36:53 2019 No.13828459 >>13828453 The act of believing requires both faith and reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:37:26 2019 No.13828463 >>13828459 In what way?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:38:45 2019 No.13828468

>>13828453
It's really not. Despite Kierkegaard's presumption the actual role of Faith is that of giving you strenght when something you rationally accept as true is in doubt. The Argument for the existance of God is a rational one, Faith enters the equation when something makes you doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:39:16 2019 No.13828471 >>13828463 Do you believe that tomorrow will exist by reason alone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:40:02 2019 No.13828475 Can someone explain what God even is? I don't even understand how the trinity works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:40:50 2019 No.13828480 File: 68 KB, 500x750, ADAECE57-33BB-4CEF-AD11-EA6E8422D2D6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13828475 God is Truth

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:41:25 2019 No.13828481 >>13828480 Doesn't this lead to pantheism?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:42:08 2019 No.13828485 File: 38 KB, 1108x1080, Trinity-Is-IsNot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13828475

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:42:42 2019 No.13828487 >>13828481 No, God (Truth) is a subject that understands itself as such.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:44:36 2019 No.13828495 >>13828485 Yes, I get that. But why is God in 3 and not just God? >>13828487 Would you say God is good too? As in, he IS good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:45:51 2019 No.13828499 >>13828091 Asking us is a bit cruel, obliging us with such bait. Ask God or angels or your ancestors...

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:46:27 2019 No.13828501

>>13828495
God IS good in that good is that which tends to existence (what else can “good” mean?). Since God gives existence to all things, whether they be subjectively good or bad to parts of the creation, God is objectively good. But God is especially good to humans who seek Him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:48:34 2019 No.13828511 >>13828501 Does God even have a personality?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:48:38 2019 No.13828514

>>13828475
The Trinity is a mystery, a contradiction in catholic tradition that can not be unravelled. The Son is God, the Father is God, and The Holy Ghost is God, but these are not separate modes of God, as heretical modalists would tell you, but they are all God. One God, not three.

You do not have to understand God. Just put your faith in him foremost, and do the works that Jesus said were good. Heal the sick, feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty. Have righteous justified love of yourself, and love your neighbour. Do not lie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:51:25 2019 No.13828526 >I want to start believing in God. Why? Also, which god?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:51:33 2019 No.13828528 >>13828514 Wasnt it holy trinity + mary back in a day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:51:33 2019 No.13828529 >>13828511 That’s a vague question. God has attributes that we can relate to human traits

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:52:25 2019 No.13828533 >>13828514 If I don't even understand what God is, how could I place my faith in him? Wouldn't that be similar to the cave allegory? Why would I do something without understanding why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:53:27 2019 No.13828538 >>13828529 Such as?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:55:29 2019 No.13828544 >>13828529 We were created in His image. >>13828533 Is your understanding of everything you do perfect? If it is, you are a greater man than I, and greater than any I have ever met.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:56:43 2019 No.13828549 >>13828538 love, justice, personal consolation

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:57:53 2019 No.13828555 >>13828533 God works in mysterious ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:58:25 2019 No.13828557 >>13828544 >We were created in His image. Obviously it’s not a physical image. So what do you think it means?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:00:08 2019 No.13828569 >>13828557 The jury is still out, but I think .TIFF has great potential

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:00:39 2019 No.13828571 >>13828544 I don't have a perfect understanding of everything I do, but I have some at the very least. I'm telling you, I have literally no idea what God is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:01:46 2019 No.13828578 >>13828481 God's spirit is reflected in the universe but God is greater than the universe. You can't escape God wherever You look but He's so much bigger than everything you can see and imagine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:02:46 2019 No.13828589 >>13828495 It is a representation of man - body, mind and soul

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:03:34 2019 No.13828591 >>13828589 wtf is a soul

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:03:53 2019 No.13828593 >>13828589 and maybe subject, object, and the relation between the two, the path to self-understanding

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