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Best playwright: Shakespeare
Best poet: Milton
Best prose: William Golding
Best selling: Shakespeare

Any thoughts?

>> No.1382323

Best prose william golding? I don't think so.

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>Best selling

>> No.1382328

>>1382320
It was bestselling author. God doesn't count because he has too many powers - we can't tell if he's cheated.

>>1382323
Suggest alternatives?

>> No.1382347

>>1382328
Jonathan Swift or Dickens or Conrad or Dh Lawrence. DH is definitely my pick.

>> No.1382361

>>1382347
Haven't read Lawrence but I have read Swift and Dickens and I disagree that they have better prose than Golding. Which Golding works have you read?

>> No.1382366

>>1382328
Well he did write the quran aswell so he is an author.

>> No.1382370

>>1382361
Honestly, I've only read "lord of the flies" and just was not impressed at all by it. I was surprised to see he won the nobel prize. Do yourself a favor and read some DH Lawrence though, noone else wrote as he did. Any suggestions with Golding?

>> No.1382386

Play: Shakespeare
Poem: Dante
Prose: Hardy

>> No.1382400

Playwright:Shakespeare
Poet:Dylan Thomas
Prose: Dh Lawrence
Modernism ftw

>> No.1382401

>>1382370
Yeah, the Spire. Lord of the Flies was his first novel and the one that made him famous but he did write better ones, which I think are massively underrated. Pincher Martin has great prose but didn't like it at all.

>> No.1382402

>>1382386
>Prose: Hardy

My nigga.

>> No.1382419

>>1382386
I like Hardy's poetry, not bothered with any prose. Best work?

>> No.1382443

>>1382419
Jude or Mayor of Casterbridge.

>> No.1382463

Best playwright: Shakespeare
Best poet: T.S. Eliot
Best prose: Faulkner
Best selling: God

>> No.1382477

>>1382419
Tess of the D'ubervilles -- maybe far from the madding crowd.

Tess is a very sexy novel.

>> No.1382485

>>1382463
Elliot on his own or Elliot with Pound editing him?


I'll take hemingway over faulkner any day.

>> No.1382492

Best playwright: Shakespeare (or Ibsen)
Best poet: William Blake
Best prose: Raymond Carver
Best selling: eh?

>> No.1382495

>>1382485
>I'll take hemingway over faulkner any day.

You're wrong everyday.

>> No.1382529

Best playwright: Shakespeare.
Best poet: Plath.
Best prose: Nabokov.
Best selling: Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Peter...

>> No.1382536

Playwright: Beckett. (Really it's undoubtedly Shakespeare, but I wanted to mix it up a bit).

Poet: Tennyson or Frost

Prose: Pynchon

Selling: Meh. Rowling, I guess?

>> No.1382546

Best playwright: Beckett
Best poet: Paz
Best prose: Goethe
Best selling: A Tale of two Cities, apparently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books#More_than_100_million_copies

>> No.1382549

>>1382536
I was going to say beckett too (he's my favorite, I think. he and tennessee williams, anyway) but noone can deny Shakespeare.

>> No.1382554

best selling book is unfortunately the bible

>> No.1382581

surely favourite is a much more interesting question? as though people on 4chan have any weight when it comes to deciding a canon, or whether middleton is objectively better than webster

>> No.1382587

>>1382529
Eeh, Nabokov. I find he overdoes his prose to the extent that it jars - not each time he's being descriptive but as a whole. Suspect that's just personal preference.

>> No.1382607

Best playwright: Shakespeare
Best poet: Milton, Alighieri, Homer
Best prose: Pynchon, Kafka, Joyce
Best selling: God

>> No.1382612

>>1382607
Excuse me, *God, J.K. Rowling

>> No.1382633

Best playwright: Terence
Best poet: Vergil
Best prose: Cicero
Best selling: The Bible

FTFY
YHBT

>> No.1382648

>>1382633
Do you mean English translations, or can you read classical Latin?

>> No.1382649

Playwright: August Wilson
Poet: Thom Gunn
Prose: Albert Camus
Selling: Who gives a shit?

>> No.1382666

Shakespeare
Milton
Joyce
Thread//

>> No.1382685

>>1382666
how can you even suggest Joyce for best prose - it's horrible reading.

>> No.1382688

>>1382666

666 = THREAD

>> No.1382704

>>1382685
>Hurr durr the only thing Joyce wrote was Ulysses

>> No.1382721

>>1382704
So Dubliners and Portrait are enough to place him at the top, if we assume Ulysses and FW are horrible reading?

meh, it's rhetorical because 666 get negates arguments

>> No.1382728

>>1382721
Only assuming that Ulysses and FW are horrible reading, which is a belief reserved only for those who have not even seen the text of either.

Also 666 negates arguments.

>> No.1382763

>>1382648
I can read prose well enough although I struggle with poetry.

>> No.1382765
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seriously, am i the only one who thinks shakespeare is overrated???? you faggots all sit around saying "shakespeare is teh best playwright hurr durr" but you only say that because its what youve been told. and to justify it you say to someone who doesnt like him: "youre just not reading it properly or you cant read it deep enough". the truth is you want to think hes awesome because english is a subject youre good at and it makes you feel special to sit around and say "shakespeare is teh best playwright in the whole world and i know this because im so good at this shit i can see what he really meant by this derp". you dont want to disagree with any convention because maybe then youre not really that good at english after all because you cant see what everyone else sees in shakespeare or milton or john fucking donne. you lie in bed at night secretly dreaming of the day when youll go into a school full of young black gangstas and teach them that SS was violent and loved sex and slappin bitches with his AK and theyll love it and it will be magical and youll go back to your wife and youll say I DID IT and shell hug you and its all been because of SHAKESPEARE. HE WAS A FAGGOT AND HIS WORK ISNT EVEN THAT GOOD.

tl;dr grow a set of balls and try thinking for yourself.

>> No.1382771

>>1382721
I've read Dubliners, half of Portrait and all of Ulysses. It's not good prose.

>> No.1382772

>>1382765
>>1382765
cool rebellion just for the sake of rebellion bro

>> No.1382787

>>1382765
I like your spirit, but Shakespeare was just an amazing writer--he created over 1000 of the words that became commonly used in modern english, he was pretty instrumental in the transition from classical to modern literature. He isn't my favorite playwright (in fact i like writers who would probably at some time say essentially what you are saying, albeit with better language, the surrealists and dadaists) but, he is undeniably the greatest writer in the english language. Sometimes, killing your idols is just a way of making yourself feel like less of a nothing

>> No.1382789

>>1382771
666 get negates arguments

>> No.1382790

>>1382765
>>1382772

cool samefagging bro. and terrible unoriginal trolling. first thing i thought was "i've seen brownbear post that pic, i bet it's him", next thing you know, i scroll down, and there's brownbear responding to himself!

>> No.1382797

>>1382666
there it is

>> No.1382804

>>1382790
>>1382790

>calls samefag because of the picture
>the origional poster doesn't even name his fucking files.

retarded anonymous strikes again!

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also

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>>1382808
>>1382808

forgot to add that the fact i can post the picture means they're two different files.

jesus christ i wish more people would use a trip so we can separate the intelligent ones from plebeians like that anon.

>> No.1382843

>>1382790
>>1382790

i actually don't care about what name people post under but you just got FUCKING TOLD SON

>> No.1382848

>>1382812
i dont even feel like checkin the date modified for anon, it's just that obvious!

>> No.1382849

>>1382772
>>1382787
youre right; ive embarrassed myself.

>> No.1382859

>>1382765
>>1382772
>>1382790
>>1382804
>>1382808
>>1382812
>>1382843
>>1382848
>>1382849

mfw this entire episode is brownbear samefagging.

>> No.1382868
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1382868

I love yellow comic...

>> No.1382875
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...I think it's the best...

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>>1382875
>>1382868

>> No.1382888
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>>1382848
>>1382848

you mean like this?

>>1382859
>>1382859

nope.avi

>> No.1382901
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1382901

...it's a pretty cool comic...

>> No.1382904
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1382904

...and doesn't afraid of anything...

>> No.1382907
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...even pretty cool metanarratives.

>> No.1382916

>>1382907
>>1382904
>>1382901
>>1382875
>>1382868
Oh wait, what am I doing? I can't post files that look the same. I must be some 7334 h4x0r

>> No.1382924

cervantes, motherfucker

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>>1382916
>>1382916
>sees date modified in the pic i posted
>realises' he's wrong
>continues anyways

pic related

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>>1382924
this an aeon times

>> No.1382974

yeats

>> No.1382977

Best playwright: Goethe
Best poet: Goethe
Best prose: Goethe
Best selling: Bible

>> No.1382979

>>1382977
>>>krautchan

>> No.1383014

>>1382949
That you go to such lengths to "prove" your innocence merely makes your guilt more obvious, loner.

>> No.1383029

>>1383014
>>1383014

nice ad hominem bro

>> No.1383031

>>1383029
Cry harder.

>> No.1383038

Playwright: William Shakespeare
Poet: Edmund Spenser
Prose: Charles Dickens

>> No.1383069
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Play: Beckett
Poem: Paz
Prose: Vonnegut

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1383083

>>1383031
>>1383031

>> No.1383089

>>1383014

>you lie in bed at night secretly dreaming of the day when youll go into a school full of young black gangstas and teach them that SS was violent and loved sex and slappin bitches with his AK and theyll love it and it will be magical and youll go back to your wife and youll say I DID IT and shell hug you and its all been because of SHAKESPEARE.

I actually believe it was brownbear simply because only he could come up with something this retarded. Then again, deliberately downloading a different version of the pic is quite a shrewd move, not something I'd expect from him... hmmm...

>> No.1383098

>>1383083
>wait half an hour to reply
>get the last laugh
It's so transparent it's sad.

>> No.1383099

>>1383089
>>1383089

i would never forget to use punctuation such as apostrophe's within a post.

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>>1383098
>>1383098

>he doesn't know about having more than one tab open
>he doesn't realise that by not saging i bump the thread to page one
>

>> No.1383116

>>1383089
You only need to change one or two pixels.

>> No.1383122

Brownbear: master samefag, puppeteer and shadow partner of the vilest order

>> No.1383135

Playwright: Pinter
Poet: Milton
Prose: Chesterton

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1383148

people, people please, i know you love showering me with all this attention and shouting out samefag just for a chance to have any form of contact with me, albeit over the internet, but try and control your orgasms as i tell you that in face, i was not "samefagging" and actually have never dropped trip.

you may all continue your pathetic lives now.

>> No.1383151

I don't know about you guys, but Herman Melville had some sexy, sexy prose.

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>>1383148
>>1383148

woops, i meant 'in fact'

>> No.1383164

Best playwright: Shakespeare
Best poet: Dante
Best prose: Cervantes

done

>> No.1383310

>>1383164
Yeah, pretty much.

>> No.1383323

>>1382529
You know, you're alright.

I'd like to here add that I haven't gotten around to Beckett's plays, but his novels are fucking unreadable.

>> No.1383340

>>1383164
Don't think Dante is better than Milton. Cervantes is a possibility, hard to judge as I've only read the translation.

>> No.1383542

>>1382765
>>1382849
OP of both of these. stop giving brownbear my credit. i came up with this retarded shit myself

>> No.1383555

>>1383542
>>1383542

inb4 brownbear stop samefagging hurr durr

>> No.1383582

"Best" implies objectivity, which there is clearly not in something like this. I'm not even arrogant enough to suppose that I can form an opinion on who the best are. I haven't read it all, and my views on what I have read are influenced by my attitude at the time I read each thing. I could perhaps say who my favorites are, but never the best.

>> No.1383593

if you think that any playwright was better than Shakespeare in terms of cultural influence then you're insane. No author has so defined what it means to be a human like Shakespeare has.

Playwright: Shakespeare
Poet: Keats
Prose: Impossible

>> No.1383612

>best poet
>anything other than T.S. Elliot or Blake

>> No.1383615

>>1383612
>T.S. Elliot
boy, I sure hope you like footnotes and allusions!.

agree with you on Blake though.

>> No.1383632

Best playwright: Goethe
Best poet: Goethe
Best prose: Goethe