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13805287 No.13805287 [Reply] [Original]

Why don't Gnostics just kill themselves if the material world is so bad?
t. Plotinus

>> No.13805315

>>13805287
because they are edgy weakling, who don't actually believe in their theology.

>> No.13805325

>>13805315
>the martyrs didn’t actually believe in the theology
You sniveling swine

>> No.13805351

Because they believe they will reincarnate into the material world again, devoid of memories of their previous life's experiences.

>> No.13805359

>>13805325
Which martyrs
Gnostics had no martyrs.

>> No.13805394

>>13805351
so why not kill themselves if their life sucks and betting for a slightly better one?

>> No.13805409

>>13805287
Because Gnostics were multiple different ideologies that set apart from each other in many ways, not just one thing. There is no such thing as a single Gnosticism.

>> No.13805418
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13805418

>>13805359
Yeah right.

>> No.13805759

>>13805287
>kill yourself
>return with erased memory
whats the benefit?

>> No.13805778

>>13805394
what if I get a worse life?

>> No.13805899

>>13805759
You don't feel cringy when you remember your failures with women in high school before sleep.

>> No.13805918

>>13805287

A truly awful question.

>> No.13805966

>>13805899
>being this entitled
yikes

>> No.13806005

>>13805918
A truly awful response.

>> No.13806028

how do I into Gnosticism?
>also I have to take Plato literally, yes? like his tales of Gods, Suns and demiurges?

>> No.13806208

>>13805287
I think they're all dead already.

>> No.13807332

>>13805394
because they will just reincarnate until they reach 'gnosis'.

>> No.13807346

>>13805918
It was good enough to shut up the Gnostics for a long time back in the day

>> No.13807354

Why doesn't God just do the rapture right now if the world is so shit?

>> No.13807391

>>13805287
Because they aren't stoics. They were brave enough to defy their assigned lot and recognize it for what it is

>> No.13807398

>>13805287
Didn't Plotinus say matter was evil?

>> No.13807426

>>13807398
maybe in a negative sense, but it's not like a source of evil as the gnostics say

>> No.13807517
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13807517

>>13805287
>neopl*tonists
>not leibverächter as well

>> No.13807537

>>13807398
It's evil in the sense of being the ultimate representation of our ignorance, not really in a truly moral sense though.

Some groups of Gnostics viewed it in that regard as well

>> No.13807561

If you kill yourself you just get kicked back into a new meat prison, so it's a futile gesture. Plus, if people care about you, which some to some degree certainly do, you're only increasing the suffering of those people by taking your own life.

>> No.13808457

>>13805418
Cathars did everything wrong. Literally asking for it, and I don't mean their doctrines. How is it possi le to fuck up politically this badly?
What happened in waco is more martyr like than the cathars.