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[Anonymous No.13801963]

Why did midwits take to this so hard in the last few years? Did Jordan Peterson or someone shill it on his show?

[Anonymous No.13801995]

>>13801963
>stoicism
>recently
anon....

[Anonymous No.13802015]

>>13801995
Are you baiting? I'm asking why in the last few years has this book become a rallying point for midwits, not suggesting that stoicism is a new philosophy.

[Anonymous No.13802019]

>>13801963
It’s practical applicable advice presented in an easy to read fashion. Also a lot of it is common sense stuff but actualized and developed. It appeals to the self-help and the “bro” crowd. The type of people who call themselves warriors for going to the gym 3 times a week and read articles about optimal beard growth. I find that a lot of people either don’t bother to properly understand him or just skim quotes here and there and think the book is telling them to be “tough” and “manly”.

[Anonymous No.13802020]

all aphoristic writing is midwit-tier desu

[Anonymous No.13802025]

>>13802015
It just was in the air. Youtube starts recommending stoic animations, stoic bloggers get reposted on larger services, et cetera. Stoic books got reprints/new translations. It's all happening now, so when Marcus Aurelius or Seneca or whoever resurrect later, there is no demand for them.

[Anonymous No.13802040]

>>13801963
It happens every few years, it's a constant cycle.

[Anonymous No.13802064]

Meditations is introductory-core for getting into reading. The self-help crowd read it before their interest in books fizzles out and they move onto their next short-lived hobby. It is an eternal pattern.

[Anonymous No.13802146]

>>13802015
It hasn't, or at least not in the past few years. It's by a famous general, and is a famous philosophy. What you're seeing is subjective psychological issues with you.

[Anonymous No.13802154]

>>13802146
>What you're seeing is subjective psychological issues with you.
How is noticing that a book is garnering popularity among people who are otherwise functionally illiterate indicative of me having a psychological issue?

[Anonymous No.13802155]

Might be stoicism is gaining popularity due to the increasing noise and distractions in the modern day and Meditations is what is usually recommended first

[Anonymous No.13802301]

>>13801963
Because the Amerikkkan empire is crumbling and they need to pump an ideology of duty.

[Anonymous No.13802323]

>>13801963
Is stoicism is the post 08 cope?

[Anonymous No.13802353]

>>13802323
Depends on what you mean by "Stoicism"
>only reading Meditations if that and getting all your knowledge from self help books or "inspirational" out of context quotes
Yes
>Reading Epictetus and Seneca (I.E. the actual philosophy)
no

[Anonymous No.13802375]

>>13801963

Ryan Holiday shilling

[Anonymous No.13802462]

>this guy rolls up and does your nighttime routine for 28 days
what do?

[Anonymous No.13802464]

>>13801963
Your pic related is actually a great translation of the book. Love me some Marky "Be Cool, bruh" Aurls

[Anonymous No.13802576]

He suffers the same fate as Eastern philosophers. Getting quoted completely out of context in some retarded self-help, IDGAF book or blog or whatever.

[Anonymous No.13802595]

>>13802353

>Epictetus
>real philosophy
>when it boils down to "just be apathetic lmao"

[Anonymous No.13802609]

>>13801963
>Why did midwits take to this so hard in the last few years?
The internet has produced a tidlewave of pop historians who have a particular interest in Roman history. Also, it plays into the wave of self-improvement for young men (not to say that any of this is a bad thing by the way)

[Anonymous No.13802612]

Marcus Aurelius is an ancient text for people too retarded to read ancient texts.

[Anonymous No.13802624]

>>13802576
HOW TO NOT GIVE A F**K AND JUST LIVE YOUR F**KIN KICKA*S F**KIN LIFE YOU BOSS B*TCH (SUPER DELUXE EXPANDED F**KIN EDISH)

You can tell a self help book is good, by how many curse words are in the title

[Anonymous No.13802652]

>>13802595
>t. is perturbed by what doesn't depends on him
It is a philosophy of action (both external and contemplation) deriding all passive life as mere supply of material of representations. If that's what you mean by apathetic, it is indeed the patrician life.

[Anonymous No.13802726]

>>13802652
>mere supply of material of representations

What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.13802730]

>>13801963
There is absolutely nothing wrong with stoicism.

[Anonymous No.13802742]

>>13802576
Seneca is next. I can see his quotes more often nowadays

[Anonymous No.13802807]

>>13802730
There isn’t, but it’s completely misunderstood by the self-help crowd. A recurrencing theme in The Meditations as well as other stoic writers like Epictetus is living in accordance with nature. Some seem to interpret stoicism as hardening your heart and suppressing your emotions, but in reality it’s got more to do with controlling your emotions and living life peacefully without worrying too much about life’s cosmic questions.

[Anonymous No.13802915]

>>13802146
>Being this pseud

[Anonymous No.13802936]

>>13802726
how the FUCK does a cat wear a ball cap?

That shit would just fall off his head.

[Anonymous No.13803036]

>>13802726
Not anon, but he probably means epictetus argues for being emotional only about your own actions (including thinking among your actions) and not about the state of the external world which is only an 'occasion' to act.
When you see something external passively pleasant or unpleasant, how you react to them is more important than the external thing.
It's the central theme of epictetus. It's already sort of there in Plato and Aristotle and early stoics but epictetus expands on it.