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Sandworm edition

Monthly Reading for September: Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Masterworks

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks

Other Charts:
https://mega.nz/#F!ywtXwYjC!LXU3e7knFpZK_dnHeC9ixA

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>> No.13800456

I start with a question: is the Handmaid's Tale any good, or it is only a glorified 3rd wave feminist manifesto?

>> No.13800462

>>13800456
The latter

>> No.13800486

Pre-LOTR fantasy novels worth reading:

Lilith (George MacDonald)
The Well at the World's End (William Morris)
The Wallet of Kai Lung (Ernest Bramah)
The Golem (Gustav Meyrink)
Jurgen, A Comedy of Justice (James Branch Cabell)
A Voyage to Arcturus (David Lindsay)
The Worm Ouroboros (E. R. Eddison)
The King of Elfland's Daughter (Lord Dunsany)
Lud In the Mist (Hope Mirrlees)
The Circus of Dr. Lao (Charles G. Finney)
Descent Into Hell (Charles Williams)
The Once and Future King (T. H. White)
Fictions (Jorge Luis Borges)
Titus Groan (Mervyn Peake)
The Dying Earth (Jack Vance)
The Cloven Viscount (Italo Calvino)
The Broken Sword (Poul Anderson)

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Threadly reminder that litrpg belongs in the thread on /tg/, bugman shit belongs in it's own thread, and your self published fanfiction has no place anywhere.

>> No.13800521

>Words of Radiance

When do things start happening

>> No.13800534
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>>13800521
>When do things pick up
When you give up on Sanderhack and start reading Zelazny

>> No.13800569
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Chad Joe Abercrombie is releasing his next first law trilogy. Read it and buy his books.

>> No.13800613

>>13800500
"No"

>> No.13800628

>>13800569
You can't write fantasy and be a chad.

>> No.13800633

>>13800445
Any sailing novels that don't overdo the colonial times influence on the setting? Also I've seen Blindsight recommended on here, is it easier/harder to get through than something like Solaris or on par?

>> No.13800639
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Been away for a while, has anything good been released in the last 6 months or so?

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The ultimate brainlet filter. Found it a bit boring & tedious at first but Erikson does endings like no other

>> No.13800670

>>13800646
You are in no position to call anyone a brainlet.

>> No.13800676

>>13800670
>t. couldn't get past the first paragraph in Gardens of the Moon

>> No.13800677

>>13800646
>Boring and tedious
>Does endings like no other

I feel like my stories have good highs and good endings, but man I feel like the rest is shit

>> No.13800679

>>13800676
Come on anon, have some self-awareness.

>> No.13800830

>>13800646
based

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>>13800613
>"No", he typed, fingers still sticky with jizz and cocksweat from his latest furrysmut fap session. "Heh, I sure showed him. My tastes are immaculate. Litrpg is truly the way of the future"

>> No.13800936

>rereading Underlord
Fuck guys, I think Yerin is becoming my second waifu
wat do

>> No.13800947

>>13800936
Write hate mail to the author

>> No.13801010

Or break through to foundation establishment and fly over on your sword

>> No.13801022

>>13800936
>tfw no yandere gardening waifu

>> No.13801116
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>>13800847

>> No.13801177

>>13800646
Have you read Urth of the New Sun you tasteless shit?

>> No.13801325
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13801325

is the person reading and enjoying the demon cycle still here? I saw your post last thread and it reminded me I dropped the series 50 pages into the second book months ago. I vaguely remember enjoying 3/4 of the first book. From what I remember:
the young boy realizes his father is a total pussy for letting his mother die to demons and leaves and most of the book is about him traveling and learning how to kill demons. Then it switches to the future and this weird virgin girl who loves chad but realizes chad is an asshole so she saves her virginity for so long people think she's messed up and then she gets raped by a group of bandits and eventually meets the MC who turned into some bald, feral, tattooed freak and she wants to get raped by him. There was also this random jester guy who plays music that soothes the demons or something who like the non virgin girl and they become some weird trio. Then the second book is about the sand people that the MC stayed with briefly in book 1 and it was insanely boring. I even checked amazon reviews and everyone was confirming my suspicion that the rest of the book and series turned to absolute shit. So did I drop it prematurely? Reading about muslims in a desert and having 10 new main characters sounds shitty so how are you enjoying it?

>> No.13801349

>>13800628
>You can't write fantasy and be a Chad
Cringe
>>13801325
Stay away, Anon. Unless you're into genderfluid babies and tranny armies that serve no purpose but to woke virtue signal

>> No.13801373

>>13800847
>all this butthurt to a simple "no"
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg

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>>13801349
You're still not hitting the gym are you fatty?

>> No.13801417

>>13801022
She's technically available now. Just needs someone to make her bow down to the D.

>> No.13801432

>>13801349
>Unless you're into genderfluid babies and tranny armies that serve no purpose but to woke virtue signal
Thanks for the warning. The only thing worse than corporate traditional publishing is reddit publishing.

>> No.13801444

>>13800569
>grimderpers
>chads
lol

>> No.13801452

>>13800646
>The ultimate brainlet filter.
My theory as to why people pretend Malazan is great is because they want to feel smart for reading it is proving more and more true.

>> No.13801551

>>13801391
>tfw waiting out a two day rest and can't work out.

>>13800445
Has there ever been any research into how reading fantasy as a child affects an adults morality?

>> No.13801575

>>13801349

What the fuck are you talking about? It has muslim rape armies lead by a man who got ass raped (as is muslim tradition) by his fellow soldiers as a child and now uses evil Muslim kung fu to defeat white men and rape and impregnate their women.

>> No.13801577

I started reading wheel of time and I loathe Egwene. Will she get better? When will she stop being such a hypocrite bitch?

>> No.13801592

>>13801577
After she gets viciously spanked for about 3 books.

>> No.13801706

>Elizabeth Moon
>Paksenarrion
How's it?

>> No.13801796

>>13801706
Good military fantasy on the first book, don't remember the rest..., something something ptsd.

>> No.13801907

>>13801796
Thanks fren

>> No.13801999

>>13801577
Every single female character in WoT is based on the author's mother or wife, who were the only women he had anything more than a casual acquaintance with over the entire course of his life.

What I'm saying is that it will never get better.

>> No.13802006

>>13801022
Who in t hat series did gardening?

>> No.13802016

>>13801575
Read out the entire series if you want to know.

>> No.13802022

>>13801452
That theory applies to lotr and gene wolfe too.

>> No.13802171
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On the second Hyperion book. Easily one of the best sci fi books I have listened

>> No.13802180

>>13800569
Met him. P cool guy but not a Chad. Honestly wish I enjoyed his books more bc he was likable and I wouldn't mind helping his career, but they've fallen sorta flat for me.

>> No.13802279

>>13802022
LOTR? No. Gene Wolfe? Maybe, but for different reasons. Malazan is as bloated as epic fantasy could possibly be with tons of shit happening just to happen and an insanely large cast of characters because EPIC XD and a lot of people (morons) equate all of that with 2deep4u literature. They think because there's 10 books and each book is 5,000 pages then it MUST be "deep" and so they want to feel more intelligent for reading it. Whereas a writer like Gene Wolfe genuinely does write deep fiction in that there's usually more going on beyond the surface level.

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>>13801325
Read the superior demon fantasy

>> No.13802352

>>13802341
>posting something that isn't the first book
I remember reading these as they were published, when I was like in 4th-8th grade or something.
I liked them at the time.
Probably wouldn't now.
I liked the magic system.

>> No.13802360
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>When Agia and I left the Botanic Gardens, Dorcas was still with us. Agia was anxious to make her go away, and for a time I permitted her to try. I was moved in part by the fear that with Dorcas near it would be impossible for me to persuade Agia to lie with me; but even more by a vague appreciation of the pain Dorcas would feel, lost and dismayed as she was already, if she should see me die.

I never expected Severian to be such a hilarious protagonist. The guy is such a narcissistic autist.

>> No.13802363

>>13802279
Listen queer. It also applies to lotr, and don't you sass back to me.

>> No.13802374

>>13802171
Hyperion is entirely overrated.
TRANSLATION: I didn't like it.

>> No.13802385

>>13802279
More like they are so annoying that few people want to read them so they can have plausible deniability about them and pretend however much they want and then if someone actually reads them they can say they successfully trolled the other people into reading them.

>> No.13802388

>>13801551
>Has there ever been any research into how reading fantasy as a child affects an adults morality?

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers

>> No.13802392

>>13801432
Nice tribalism

>> No.13802400

>>13800456
>asking the /pol/ insurgents this question
Unclear if this was an actual question or a set-up to be answered in specific way by the same person who asked it, especially considering how quickly it was responded to.

>> No.13802436

>>13802022
I legitimately just want more people to read Wolfe novels, that's the only reason I shill them
BotNS/UotNS definitely don't require you to be smart, if anything they just expect you to have a decent memory
Peace on the other hand is fucking weird and I don't talk about that one much specifically because it's challenging
But nobody who's read BotNS is impressed with themselves at the end of it

Speaking of, I'm almost finished rereading UotNS, and I like the first third much more the second time around
I bitched about it being boring generic sci fi for that part, and it's still kind of true, but it doesn't really suck as bad as I thought it did
There's a lot of shit that doesn't matter much, but I did at least feel like the actions bits were sufficiently exciting this time

>> No.13802443

If/when I do a opinion survey should I use book title, author name, or author name and sample book? It's really a question of whether a specific book is more important than the author. Including a sample book will inevitably upset those who would have preferred a different book was chosen. This is not a binding poll.

https://www.strawpoll.me/18628744

>> No.13802470

>>13800445
just finished the last argument of kings

>> No.13802489
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for me, it's Brian Evenson.

>> No.13802536

>>13801391
>Everyone who doesn't like my woke tranny books is conanfag
Tbqh the first two books were good, but after that it's homoerotic weiner biting territory with down south phonetic spelling, tranny armies, and gay babies. The last book was especially cringe. Also, pls dilate

>> No.13802558

>>13801575
The biggest, baddest Muslim rapist gets his dick bitten off, then bites off a cripples dick, then chops off the duck of everyone he meets and forces them to join his dick chopping army where all they do is chop off the weiner of everyone they meet and make them chop off weiners too. This has no relevance to the plot whatever.

>> No.13802570

>>13802470
Great book. Ignore conanfag and his grimderp bullshit. The great leveller morbid obesity will take care of him

>> No.13802571

>>13800456
The latter. The story suffers from a problem, which is that the Plague which sterilized the vast majority of the human race more or less justifies the dystopian authoritarian theocratic regime of that forms the backdrop for the story. I.E., the Christian Mysoginazis are actually trying to save the human race, and everyone who opposes them is technically fighting to hasten its extinction.

In light of this, why would you create this convergence of an ideology that you intend to be horrific and dystopian, and a series of events that basically justifies that ideology, if not in practice than at least in principle?

It struck me as discordant and even perverse.

>> No.13802581

>>13802006
The girl from the south empire, who was dating the prince.

>> No.13802583

>>13802388
>shitting on atlas shrugged

B.A.S.E.D.

>> No.13802610

>>13802388
>T. Pinko commie
It's ok Anon. There was a point in my life where I was struggling to pull my weight in society as well. I didn't waste time bitching about it on the internet, but to each his own

>> No.13802639

>>13802570
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.13802668

>>13802639
I'm sorry to inform you of this, conanfag, but LGBT does not stand for Lettuce, Gravy, Bacon, and Tomato.

>> No.13802699

>>13802668
>>>/ck/

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>>13802536
Less butthurt more lifting.

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>>13802668
>Lettuce gravy bacon and tomato

>> No.13802850

>Try to get into Stormlight
>Can't stand Shallan's "Oh I'm so fucking clever look at me spout witty comments" bullshit
Please tell me she gets better or at least smacked with the suffering stick.

>> No.13802878

>>13800569

Quite a disapointing trilogy. Sorry abercrombie. Your story doesnt scale well.

>> No.13802893

>>13802850
Nope she gets worse and worse and is literally always right about everything.

>> No.13802912

>>13802893
How the fuck did Sanderson screw up so badly with this, I don't remember Vin or even Vivenna and Siri being awful female leads.

>> No.13802949

pirate books? pirate freedom was ok but want something even more piratey

>> No.13802981

>>13800646
Finishend Bonehunters today at 1 in the morning, Erikons truly is a master at writing the most awesome scenes imaginable.

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Sorry I'm late.

>> No.13803193

>>13802878
Based anon burying grimderp bugmen.

>> No.13803210

>>13802571
But that's actually the thing that makes the book decent. It's not just Christian Mysoginazis being bad for the sake of being bad, the have a reason. The thing that makes the book not fantastic is that it fail to explore these ideas and their counterpoints, instead focusing on the main character and her experiences within this idea.

>> No.13803219

>>13800486
Great list really, make a chart. Potentially add Dracula and Frankenstein, unless you consider the later proto sci-fi.

>> No.13803319

>>13801325
Im about half way through the 2nd book and i decided to drop it, which is a shame, because i enjoyed most of book 1. I cant stand any of the female characters. Either they're helpless idiots who only exist to be raped and abused, or they're high strung cunts who treat everyone around them like shit. From what i read, Arlen, the only character that i enjoyed gets sidelined and his character ruined. Also intersex babies, what the fuck

>> No.13803389

>>13803319
>intersex babies
How far has the fantasy come.

>> No.13803433

>>13802171
I know a few people disliked the switch from short-story anthology to full-blown space opera but I also loved Fall of Hyperion. I thought it did a great job wrapping the entire story up.

>> No.13803449
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>>13800445
>Postcyberpunk
>Postcyberpunk uses the same immersive world-building technique, but features different characters, settings, and, most importantly, makes fundamentally different assumptions about the future.
>Far from being alienated loners, postcyberpunk characters are frequently integral members of society (i.e., they have jobs). They live in futures that are not necessarily dystopic (indeed, they are often suffused with an optimism that ranges from cautious to exuberant), but their everyday lives are still impacted by rapid technological change and an omnipresent computerized infrastructure.[5]
> examples of postcyberpunk novels are Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age and Bruce Sterling's Holy Fire. In television, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

do you agree with this definition?

>> No.13803576

>>13802558
You wouldn't want to join the gilded dick gang?

>> No.13803579

>>13803210
>why couldn't they explore Christianity more
You christcucks make me sick.

>> No.13803582

>>13802581
Are we talking about the cradle series? The only royalty I remember is the emerald wings in the dragon graveyard.

>> No.13803602

>>13803579
Not christianity you idiot. The whole authoritative dictatorship as a consequence from declining birth rates theme.

>> No.13803634

>>13803582
Did you not read underlord?

>> No.13803637

>>13802392
Everytime you post the tribalism nonsense, I point out the fact that reddit has shit taste, and ome people there haven't even heard of the best fantasy authors, such as Wolfe and Peake, but they love complete hacks like Mark Lawrence. You proceed to not respond to me, and my arguments regarding, for example, their top novels chart, or the large population of barely literates.

>> No.13803648

>>13803579

Triggered much?

>> No.13803857

>>13802392
Thanks. Our tribe rules, their tribe sucks. Now get the fuck back to your tribe.

>> No.13803865

>>13803634
I read over one hundred books since I read underlord. Pardon me if some body didn't make an impact. Lindon's sister is going to get turtle'd though.

>> No.13803877

>>13803582
It was on the competition. The other kingdom that was fighting had the Prince and his gardener (female) join. They got rekt.

>> No.13803884

>>13803865
>spoiler
It is the only way. She is too far gone. Bitch doesn't even have an iron body. The only think that can save her now is Ortho's D.

>> No.13803934

>>13803877
Oh. The nutters chick who wanted to protect her slave master at all costs. Why do you cunts live for sticking your dick in crazy? I hope she dies next book. Fucking bugman logic, "I will sneak attack you, but because you didn't die and killed my partner that was trying to kill you, I will swear vengeance upon you".

>> No.13803966

>>13803865
She was the female “antagonist” in Underlord

>> No.13803970 [DELETED] 

Okay, so I'm writing a sci fi story that features faith and transcendence as themes, and I'm unsure about how I want to play a particular character. My initial idea was that this character, the emperor, would serve as the avatar of the deity that story focuses on. Like the Emperor of Mankind, he would not rule. Unlike the Emperor, though, he would not be immortal, or even a psychic. He would be on life support by the start of the story, as the act of communing with the deity would have gradually destroyed his body. To give you a bit of backstory, he would be the latest in a long line of emperors who have sacrificed their bodies and minds so that the deity may possess a physical avatar. Their insanity is something I would present as having come on gradually. After attaining the throne and performing the ritual which links them to the deity, they would begin to have nightmares, and their bodies would begin to break down. Within a few years, they would have degenerated to the point were their skin has disintegrated and they can do no more than babble incoherently in long dead languages, their minds having been overwhelmed by so much CANNOT BE. The emperor in the setting would be near the end of his life, and his death would be a central plot point. My concern is that the premise is, for the lack of a better word, shit. I'm not sure it makes sense, or that it would make a good story. Yet at the same time, I want to write it.

I have a secondary idea I've been writing a story around which I was thinking about merging with this. In this story, the emperor does not rule because his power has been usurped by the nobility and the armed forces. This emperor I based on the Japanese emperor pre-Meiji, in that they are de jure an absolute monarch, but we fact a figurehead, with actual power being executed by a regent, the Lord Protector. The emperor would be limited to performing religious duties, while the Protectorate would actually rule the nation. In the merged scenario, it would be revealed that the emperor does not rule because of the circumstances described in the first paragraph, rather than a coup or armed take over, as was assumed. This would be revealed to the main character, the son and heir to the Lord Protector, who would subsequently lose faith in the deity and the empire, and begin to work against them.

>> No.13804032

>>13803934
>Why do you cunts live for sticking your dick in crazy?
You wouldn't want a gf that would do anything you said and would avenge your death by any means? I bet the prince could even convince her to be the mistress since he would need to marry a hot noble to preserve the kingdom.

By the way, Lindon just doomed a whole kingdom now that the stupid little brother will be in charge. Just imagine all the suffering the poor people will have to endure now. I blame the faggy prince. He just couldn't let it go, could he?

>> No.13804051

>>13804032
It’s not his fault. If an Akura tells you to jump, all you can do is jump. Or do you really think Charity would have let him just walk away without a fight?

>> No.13804054

Okay, so I'm writing a sci fi story that features faith and transcendence as themes, and I'm unsure about how I want to play a particular character. My initial idea was that this character, the emperor, would serve as the avatar of the deity the story focuses on. Like the Emperor of Mankind, he would not rule. Unlike the Emperor, though, he would not be immortal, or even a psychic. He would be on life support by the start of the story, as the act of communing with the deity would have gradually destroyed his body. To give you a bit of backstory, he would be the latest in a long line of emperors who have sacrificed their bodies and minds so that the deity may possess a physical avatar. Their insanity is something I would present as having come on gradually. After attaining the throne and performing the ritual which links them to the deity, they would begin to have nightmares, and their bodies would begin to break down. Within a few years, they would have degenerated to the point were their skin has disintegrated and they can do no more than babble incoherently in long dead languages, their minds having been overwhelmed by so much CANNOT BE. The emperor in the setting would be near the end of his life, and his death would be a central plot point. My concern is that the premise is, for the lack of a better word, shit. I'm not sure it makes sense, or that it would make a good story. Yet at the same time, I want to write it.

I have a secondary idea I've been writing a story around which I was thinking about merging with this. In this story, the emperor does not rule because his power has been usurped by the nobility and the armed forces. This emperor I based on the Japanese emperor pre-Meiji, in that they are de jure an absolute monarch, but de facto a figurehead, with actual power being executed by a regent, the Lord Protector. The emperor would be limited to performing religious duties, while the Lord Protector and the privy council would actually rule the nation. In the merged scenario, it would be revealed that the emperor does not rule because of the circumstances described in the first paragraph, rather than a coup or armed take over as was assumed. This would be revealed to the main character, the son and heir to the Lord Protector, who would subsequently lose faith in the deity and the empire and begin to work against them.

>> No.13804088

>>13803449
If you're referring to the chart in the OP, then "postcyberpunk" is more used to refer to a move away from cyberpunk in the 1990s.

As far as your definition, I don't like it at all. The only one I might agree with is Diamond Age, which is a deliberately postcyberpunk. GitS:SAC is just straight-up cyberpunk (it also sucks).

>> No.13804095

>>13803637
First time i hear about Peake, and I've been lurking here for a while

>> No.13804113

>>13804095
We even read him for monthly reading, are you illiterate?

>> No.13804124

>>13804095
You either haven't been reading the threads or "a while" means like 3 days max. Gormenghast gets brought up all the fucking time.

>> No.13804138

>>13804113
that was one year ago, exactly. I don;t have to be here the whole time.

>>13804124
>Gormenghast gets brought up all the fucking time.

All the time means one reference in the last six /sffg/? Peake was mentioned 8 times in the last six /sffg/ threads. That's easy to miss, don't you thinkg?

>> No.13804168

>>13803006
>No dl link

>>13803449
>Cyberpunk
>Without the "punk" element
>Hey guys let's call it post-cyberpunk!
Who thinks this shit up? That's just scifi. Cyberpunk is more of an aesthetic than a subgenre anyways; literally just late new wave style authors writing near future sci-fi with neon signs in Japanese and meth

>> No.13804233

>>13804168
>No dl link
Aw shit nigger. Fortunately enough can get it from the usual place, check the sticky for more info.

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>>13803637
Not that guy, but Mark Lawrence's Prince of Fools series is based. Demon Cycle is indeed tranny cuck fantasy, however.
>>13803576
>Gilded dick gang
I think you mean gelded
>>13803934
>Read bugman "books"
>Complain about bugman logic
Radical?

>> No.13804273

>>13804233
The Google drive folder only goes up to August

>> No.13804313

>>13804273
Yeah, check the sticky.

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>>13803219
Dracula is not worth reading past the beginning castle segment. Frankenstein is one of my favorite books of all time.

>> No.13804424

>>13804313
>>13804273
>>13804233
>>13804168
>>13803006
>>13800445
https://mega.nz/#F!Sp0BSKDQ!RNQtBpMgWg4TkYH95aPjOg

>> No.13804448

>>13804260
You like using that image.
>>https://warosu.org/lit/image/UT0DMMEiSk6J_8vMDjrnvg

>> No.13804453

>>13803637
>>13803857
I'm glad that you've accepted that you're entirely about identity politics.

>> No.13804503

>>13804390
What's the problem with Dracula? I thought all the parts with Mina Harker were great.

>> No.13804534

>>13802570
im glad glokta got a happy ending. That son of a bitch deserved it. Also fuck bayaz

>> No.13804543

>>13804260
I wouldn't call the Prince of Fools series quality near the level of Wolfe, Peake, etc. but fuck me if it wasn't a fun read.
The Thorns series on the other hand can fuck right off with its edgy grimderp teen badass protag.

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>>13804054
You guys are back huh. I thought we got rid of you years ago.

>> No.13804563

>>13804095
>lurking here for a while
I give you a month max, he's among the 5 most mentioned authors desu, at least long term. He was also an inspiration for pretty much every good living fantasy author and is generally agreed by critics and many other authors to be at least on par with Tolkien, so the fact that you haven't heard of him shows just how ignorant you are about the great genre of fantasy.
>>13804138
>mentioned once a thread
>easy to miss
>>13804453
>Yeah, so I think /r/fantasy is a shitty community, because their taste is simplistic, they are ignorant about almost every author that wrote works of literary merit, and not just escapism, and their top novels list is literally just goodreads most popular fantasy + writers who shill their own works on their subreddit, showing a remarkably shallow understanding of the genre, and a clear inability to challenge themselves.
>IDENTITY POLITICS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>13804138
I made this years ago, and post it regularly.
Want to know how we know you are lying?

>> No.13804570

Are there any sci-fi books that start on a small scale, like maybe just a couple of characters, but then by the end of the book the plot is worldwide/universe wide or even spanning different dimensions?

>> No.13804583

>>13804543
Thorns was good, fools was utter shit. Made me drop Lawrence.

>> No.13804586

Anyways, the point is the most popular author on /sffg/ by far is pringles man, and the most popular guy on reddit is either Sanderson or Lawrence
This objective truth alone highlights the fact that /sffg/ is at least somewhat better than arrfantasy

>> No.13804625

>>13800639
Imagine choosing Chani over Jessica

>> No.13804703

>>13804556

I'm just asking a question. No need to get salty.

>> No.13804724

>>13804570
So you want the scifi version of Malazan?

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>>13804703
This isn't the aspiring authors general. Check critique for that.

>> No.13804787

>>13804583
We clearly have very different taste.

>> No.13804804

>>13804730
>>13804556
Is this some new meme? Never saw it before. What's wrong with aspiring to write? The editor of these pictures clearly has a bias against people that try to better themselves in the art of writing. Maybe he is jealous that all his efforts thus far are wasted as spilling water in the desert, and he is taking it out on his betters. It would have to be a man because only males harbor such hatred and disingenuous feelings towards another.

>> No.13804816

>>13804804
>Is this some new meme?
The image is ancient newfriend. There's nothing wrong with aspiring to write but this is not a thread about writing.

>> No.13804821

>>13804787
We do. Next thing you'll tell me is that you enjoyed the gunpowder junkie spin off series more than the original.

>> No.13804836

>>13804804
I can smell the vagina all the way over here, and it smells tight.

>> No.13804857

>>13804821
I'm honestly not sure what series you're referring to.

>> No.13804886

>>13804836
Hi, Brent Weeks here, did someone mention tight pussy?

>> No.13804889

>>13804570
Count to a Trillion series, if you want some of that good ol' godly and Catholic science fiction.

>> No.13804893

>>13804586
How did gene wolfe end up displacing Bakker as sffg's patron, anyway?

>> No.13804901

>>13804886
I forgot that was a plot point, who the fuck decides to put "the pussy is medically too tight" in as an actual plot point. That and the shit with the midget race where the babies would come out too big and kill the mother or something. Just why. For what purpose.

>> No.13804904

>>13804893
He died.

>> No.13804966

>>13804901
He was fucking a girl who had that condition when she was younger, thought it was interesting and put it in. Not at all to appeal to the woman he was fucking at the time, totally.

>> No.13804996

Anyone read The Fall of Gondolin? Any good? I'm worried it's too unfinished to be interesting.

>> No.13805042

Currently reading "Cities in Flight." Any opinions about it?

>> No.13805203

>>13804857
Ryan Anthony is dragon blood junkies.
Brian ___________ is gunpowder junkies.

>> No.13805244

>>13805203
Oh the powder mage guy. Haven't read that series, didn't even know there was a spinoff too.

>> No.13805281

>>13804966
Amazing, totally needed that blurb at the end about how its a serious medical condition and support those who have it and other such pertinent information to the story.
Maybe now that the bitch is dilating we can get back to the "kill god" part.

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>>13804448
>Trying to stalk niggas on a fantasy image board
Man, I must've really hit a nerve. In any case, I've literally never posted that image before I stole it from here you mongoloid

>> No.13805633

>>13804570
The Stars My Destination

>> No.13805652
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>>13804556
It's gotta those litrpg fags. Every time there's a boom in litrpg posting these two writefags show up and cry about how their Pokemon stories don't make sense
>>13804586
>Mark Lawrence isn't secretly /ourguy/

>> No.13805692

>>13804893
Unholy Consult was dissapointing (I SMELL CUNNY - dragon)

>> No.13805702

>>13805692
what are some sff books with cunnies?

>> No.13805722

how the fuck do i listen to books
im trying my first audiobook and every few minutes i lose focus then have to go back like 10-20 seconds

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>>13805281
Tight pussy part 2 October.

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>>13805652
Why don't you use my anti litrpg pic I made last year?

>> No.13805763

>>13804893
Wolfe has always been a patron. Bakker wasn’t even discussed until I started shilling him about 3 months before TGO came out.

>> No.13805765

>>13800639
gideon the ninth

>> No.13805769

>>13805722
By developing retaining abilities. You will be able to get pussy and function in society by listening to audiobooks. You will learn to pay attention to what people are saying and not spaz out inbetween a conversation.

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>>13805763
>Bakker wasn’t even discussed until I started shilling him about 3 months before TGO came out.
Uhhh...

>> No.13805776

Guys, I need a recommendation!

I am looking for "cyberpunk meets fantasy", as in the Shadowrun series, preferably not post-apocalyptic.

So high-tech, with solid science meets magic and orcs and all of that. Why isn't this more popular?

Also, are The Shannarah Chronicles any good as a book series and do they, eventually, reveal the history and past?

>> No.13805791

>>13805750
I have that one saved somewhere

>> No.13805793

>>13805776
you have YA tastes so go read artemis fowl or something

>> No.13805821

>>13805776
Perdido Street or something from that China boy

>> No.13805826

>>13805793
So sci-fi meets fantasy is a YA flavor?

>> No.13805837
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Are these books worth reading?

>> No.13805898

>>13805837
No

>> No.13805906

>>13805826
that type of book is very common in YA and almost nonexistent in adult literature.

>> No.13805967

>>13805837
Yeah, they're pretty good, just dont expect a conclusion to the story

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>>13805776
What you're looking for is the Kane series by Matthew Woodring Stover. Start with Heroes Die.
>>13805906
See above

>> No.13806134

>>13805652
How would he secretly be /ourguy/? Pls elaborate bc I'm not really seeing it.

>> No.13806146

>>13806020
You mean Caine, and it's not really the same as what that guys looking for. He said "like shadowrun" so he's basically looking for 'urban fantasy' but in a nearish future scifi setting. Acts of Caine is more what happens when cyberpunk scifi setting gains access to a fantasy setting and decides to fuck with their lives on a grand scale for entertainment. It's not hacker cyborg elves and street magicians with a futuristic drug habit or whatever.

>> No.13806227

>>13806020
This my favourite image in a long time

>> No.13806305

>>13806020
>pol took all my memes and made it theirs
Except the boomer woodsman

>> No.13806448

Is there anyway to see what this guy has behind his paywall? https://www.subscribestar.com/william-s-corner
He hasn't updated anything since February.

>> No.13806479

>>13805837
Oh boy.

>> No.13806724
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Gonna start in on this spicy little slut tonight which was clearly inspired by Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser.

>> No.13806807

Reading the Conqueror series by Conn Iggulden and I'm wondering, does it count as fantasy?

>> No.13806830

>>13806807
Haven't read it but the description just sounds like standard historical fiction.

>> No.13806834

>>13806807
sounds like historical fiction? maybe if there is some mystical religious shit

>> No.13806847

I need someone to hit me up with the Bakker "Black Demon Seed" bit so that I can show it to the guy next to me on this plane.

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>>13806134
>Protagonist inspired by based Cugel and equally based Flashman
>Women constantly btfo'd
>Hated by Reddit for misogyny and non-inclusion
>Plays brilliant 4D chess move by rushing out a series for soibois and Harry Potter fans
>Reddit now praises his literal rapist mc's
>Back to work on based Jalan and Snorri buddy adventures
How is he not /ourguy/ again?

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>>13806847

>> No.13806931

>>13806902
>>13806847
It loses context without the preceding 200 or so pages

>> No.13807027

>>13806902
I love that this dude says shush. Fucking lmao

>> No.13807128

>>13804424
I will be removing these downloads of the monthly reading after this thread is dead.

>> No.13807207

>>13806724
Just finished the first story. This is fun stuff so far. Reads like a "lighter" Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. Also liked how the first story was about women trying to use Dareon and Blue with both of them eventually realizing this and deciding disregard females and acquire bro-ship instead.

>> No.13807214

>>13806724
>Written and Illustrated by
>ROBERT ZOLTAN
Based. I may have to give it a go when I finish the Fafhrd/Mouser stories

>> No.13807228

>>13806871
But his next series isn't based buddy adventures, it's another female mc in the same universe as the series for Harry Potter fangirls and sois, bc that series was quite successful
I don't blame the guy, he has kids to provide for, but I don't think he's /ourguy/

>> No.13807240

https://youtu.be/GtD0TNAr0LI
https://youtu.be/Q8gfFqj3dI0
https://youtu.be/OnYUww2SIbU

>> No.13807278

>>13807228
Yeah, it's not his next series, but he's working on it. I'll skip the Abeth Harry Potter girl school shit and come back to him when we get more Jalan and Snorri. He's clearly playing to the crowd atm for bucks and social cred with his D&D 80's nostalgia fest ala Stranger Things

>> No.13807423

>>13806902
As long as we're here, does anyone have the one about the shellfish demon hideously raping some dude and his family?

Seriously this whole series is rape.

>> No.13807431

>>13807423
Hacks think stuffing their books full of rape makes it "deeper."

>> No.13807472

I finished A Canticle for Leibowitz today. What a downer. I don't really get the significance of the tomato lady's other head being some pure being without original sin in the eyes of the dying abbot. Did she really give him communion or were those just his dying visions? Her and the wandering Jew were fairly odd inclusions to the book, as in my eyes they sort of clashed with the very realistic and bleak depiction of post-apocalyptic society. Other than that, the book had a very believable setting and I enjoyed the very cyclical nature of how the three sections played out, especially with the focus on the vultures near the end of each.

>> No.13807490

/sffg/, I think my time as a writer might be over. my interest is just gone

>> No.13807493

>>13807431
How else would you portray a race of hedonistic aliens?

>> No.13807508

>>13807493
>implying it's only the rape aliens who rape in this series
The fucking prologue of the very first book has a 6 year old boy getting raped by a man because RAPE IS DEEP XD.

>> No.13807515

>>13807493
The Skeksis from The Dark Crystal are hedonistic as hell but don't rape anything.

>> No.13807516

>>13807508
The word you’re looking for is edgy, not deep.

>> No.13807525

>>13807515
Apples and oranges

>> No.13807528

>>13807472

A Canticle for Leibowitz is much like Forever War to me in that there are elements which on their face ruin any realistic treatment of the work, but I just process it as an idiosyncrasy inserted by the author's personal convictions and issues. In this case the author's relationship with Catholicism drove him to, even in the darkest hours of the new man-kind, portray something emblematic of his faith.

Now the sequel he wrote is more the result of his loss of faith and disaffection with the church, and you can definitely tell that too.

>> No.13807535

>>13801577
>thought going to hate Wheel of Time
>start to furiously like Mat and Rand despite all of it
God damn Rand suffering and Mat going from this fucking tame young man into a humble hero is awesome.

>> No.13807542

>>13807516
Rape = edgy and hacks think edgy = deep.

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>>13807214
I'm 3 stories in and it's been enjoyable so far. Reads like a less literary Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. Pic related also gotta chuckle out of me.

>> No.13807562

>>13807528
>In this case the author's relationship with Catholicism drove him to, even in the darkest hours of the new man-kind, portray something emblematic of his faith.
Yeah, but he'd already shown a lot of his faith through the focus of the book being the monastery. The existence of the monks preserving their faith both after the apocalypse and then after roughly a thousand years as the world got back to its feet was very emblematic, especially in the last section where the abbot is standing for his conviction against euthanasia for the fatally radiation sick. That, Francis's devotion to his holy work and then awe at the impoverished New Rome, and the abbot in the second section's fears about the monastery (and thus their religion) being put by the wayside as science once again took hold of the world and tried to reclaim the preservers' relics struck me as much more poignant and meaningful ways to express religion than having outright divinity in the book. Rachel sort of works in showing a face of innocence even in an atrocity and the Jew did work in the second part when the abbot there had his talk, but I found them unnecessary. Still a good book, though. I couldn't tell if it was uplifting or bleak until the third part when I settled on "bleak."
>Now the sequel he wrote is more the result of his loss of faith and disaffection with the church, and you can definitely tell that too.
How is the sequel?

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>>13806020
>>13806227
This is the complete image.

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>>13800628

>> No.13807789

>>13807716
That's not a chad nigger.
Look at his pensive apprehension.

>> No.13807808

>>13800445
Ok so why do no charts exist which rates books according to their stories irrespective of the genre?

>> No.13807813

>>13807686
not gonna lie, id absolutely read a book about the journey. Gregolas and Spurdo going whoring and drinking every chance they get while laughing at Wojak, Pepis and Gondola are gonna be best friends and doing natue stuff, Pepe sneaking around and stealing everything thats not nailed down and beating the others in card games by cheating though they never catch him and Sir is just there to chronicle everything.

>> No.13807815

>>13805906
Why? Why does adult literature tend to be written more in a specific genre, and less in a mix of genres?

>> No.13807823
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UH SO I JUST READ THE NEWEST OUTSIDER PAGE AND I NEED SOME MORE SCI FI SPACE ELVES AND I NEED THEM NOW

>> No.13808308

Raft is set in far and away the most interesting sci-fi setting ever written.
Why hasn't Baxter written a sequel yet?

>> No.13808511

>>13808308
Because he's too busy writing about his autistic hyper-intelligent self-insert: Michael Poole.

>> No.13808639

Mask of the sorcerer was a lot of fun. It reminded me of the wizard knight. Can anyone upload the short stories Darrel wrote afterwards? Sekenre: The Book Of the Sorcerer.

>> No.13808689

>>13808639
>tfw a book you brought to /sffg/ is actually being read and enjoyed by anons
And there is no ebook for the sequel. If you wanna read that shit you gotta buy a physical copy.

>> No.13808752

>>13807813
If only someone were to write it and write it good.

>> No.13808794

>tfw nobody reads the books you bring to /sffg/
>tfw NEW ONE PIECE TODAY HOLY SHIT BROS

>> No.13808955

>>13807808
Because that's just an theoretical concept that is an illusion of consensus reality at best.

>> No.13808969

>>13808955
maybe a vote needs to be held for such a chart

>> No.13809017

I feel like going long
Amber or Belgariad?

>> No.13809025

>>13808639
>>13808689
simplified listing of what is available
https://pastebin.com/Vu5JudnR

>> No.13809027

>>13808969
You could do that, but it wouldn't be what you want. It's not possible to satisfy the ideal with real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltschmerz

>> No.13809029

>>13809027
Though maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sehnsucht is closer.

>> No.13809043

>>13809017
Amber, Belgariad is only good as babbys first series. It's so cliche ridden that it's not even funny.

>> No.13809051

>>13809043
Cliches only become such as many others have used them. Is it fair to disparage the origin because of others copying them so much and making so many derivative works?

Also, for people who haven't read much, everything is new and not cliche.

>> No.13809113

>>13809043
Belgariad may be cliche but it's the best version of that story and it's comfy af.

>> No.13809265

>>13807528
what parts of the forever war did you not like? the state enforced homo sexuality/collective conciousness shit?

>> No.13809274

>>13808639
>>13808689
I bought this and read like the first quarter of it, instead of him trying to learn sorcery he seems to just walk around and have shit happen to him. Its pretty infuriating to me, I want him to just buckle down in the time stopped house and learn at least a little bit so hes not so useless. Does it get better?

>> No.13809623

>fagtuber thinks people want to hear what a fanboy has to say about shit of the ring

>> No.13809654

>>13809274
The entire point is him not really wanting to be a sorcerer, but eventually realizing he has no choice and deciding to embrace it. So yes it "gets better."

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>>13800639
MOMMY!!!!

>> No.13809733
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There we go with the fantasy again.

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>>13809654
Who in their right mind would want to be a sorcerer anyway?

>> No.13809831

>>13809733
You did it now faggot. This is a blue board and we can finally bet rid of you.

>> No.13810009

>>13807493
Whenever I think of hedonism as a character trait in scifi or fantasy my mind immediately jumps to the Baron Harkonnen.

>> No.13810062

>>13807813
Really any sort of lighthearted book about a bunch of dysfunctional idiots on an adventure sounds fun. Aside from Discworld I can't think of anything I've read like that.

>> No.13810092

>>13810062
I know it often gets mentioned here but i really recommend Waldo Rabbit. Its about a white mage who is raised as an evil dark mage who goes on a journey to prove himself to his mother and some council. Along the way he meets a chaste succubus who was brought up as an upstanding citizen, a gay ogre who wants to be a woman and a white mage who is crazy in love with him and deludes herself into thinking its her religious duty to turn him to the good side and a whole host of other silly and downright outlandish characters. Its light-hearted, funny and very entertaining.

>> No.13810103

Is there a good resource for downloading fantasy ebooks from? I have been trying to get into fantasy after a years long sojourn and I can't find the titles I am looking for on libgen or torrents.

>> No.13810158

>>13810103
try mobilism.org
can't remember if you need to make an account to use search, but it's free

>> No.13810167

>>13809784
I want to sire an half-orc.

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>>13809831
Hah!
I am behind 7000 firewalls.

>> No.13810199

>>13810009
It’s like Baron Harkonn but also a race of fleshcrafters, so they don’t get fat and diseased.

>> No.13810201

>>13810167
Better hit the gym in that case.

>> No.13810208

>>13810092
>I know it often gets mentioned here but i really recommend Waldo Rabbit.
Why are you so mean anon? Why would you subject anyone to such shitty writing is beyond me.

>> No.13810265

>>13810187
Why did you delete it? I should have waited until it was too late for you to download. Then the mods would have caressed you softly.

>> No.13810283

>>13805837
Someone post the cuck page.

>> No.13810300

>>13810265
Oh well better luck next time.

>> No.13810536

>>13810283
But that's almost a quarter of each book!

>> No.13810632

>>13807716
>Hey anon, i heard you were talking shit about Moorcock.

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>>13800486

Amazing list, please make this as an image.
I would add two more personally:

A Connecticut Yankee in the Court of King Arthur by Mark Twain

Since you're allowing short story collections, throw in Jirel of Joiry by C L Moore

Seriously good taste though, lad.

>> No.13810668

>>13810092

Sounds quite shit to be honest.

>> No.13810741

>>1380583
Read name of the rose and I'll respect you a lot more.

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>>13810092
>I know it often gets mentioned here
Literally only you.

It seems like it's mostly dialogue because it is. 3,000 character limit:

To Waldo friendship was an alien concept.

“You were always just like the rest! Always plotting to destroy me and take what should be mine! I know it was you! I know it! I know it! I know it!”

“Why? If it’s not to sleep with me, why would you want me?”

For both of them this was the very first kiss.
To Waldo there was nothing at all emotional to it. He thought of it simply as a necessary component to performing a magical spell.
“Yes I am darling. I’m your wife!”

“WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!”
In fear, in rage, in panic, she lost all control and unleashed her power.
“HOW DARE YOU?!!” She shrieked as her body shook. “HOW DARE YOU HURT HIM!”

She especially liked his tight little ass.

He was rewarded with a clear view of her magnificent chest.
“Aaah! Don’t look!” Covering herself with both arms she turned back around.

“NICE?!!” She exploded. “Nice? Is that all you have to say?!”
“What’s wrong with nice?” He asked not understanding. You would think he’d insulted her.
“My breasts are not nice! They’re wondrous! Amazing! Men have been staring at them ever since I was thirteen! I’ve had men come to the Inn and spend entire evenings just ogling them! They have ruined marriages! I once had a traveling bard compose a song for them! You are the first man to ever actually see them and all you have to say is that they’re nice?”
“What are you upset about? It’s a compliment! If I said that to any of the sex slaves they’d have been flattered!”
“I am a succubus! My body is made to enthrall men! Who could possibly have better breasts than me?”
“My mother,” Waldo answered primly. “Hers are spectacular.”

He might have been a virgin, but he quickly discovered he had a pretty good notion of what to do. His hands fondled and squeezed and he licked and kissed her all over her body. His touch was light and certain. His affection was patient and thorough and brought her mounting pleasure.
He paused, and then drove the stake in. She gasped at the pain, but it was not as bad as she expected. She knew from stories that the first time wasn’t supposed to be this enjoyable for a woman.

“Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh!!!”
All the men down in the common room were staring up at the stairwell. It turned out Alice was a moaner and they could all clearly hear her erotic cries. A few of the men laughed and made some naughty jokes. Many more were weeping tears of pure jealousy.
The Innkeeper lifted a mug. “To the luckiest bastard on the face of the Earth.”
All the men lifted their mugs in salute.

He put his lips to Gronk’s.
“Oooh, okay master, make me your bitch.” The eight foot tall ogre put his hands together and let out a girlish giggle.
“What the hell are you doing to my husband?!!”
“I may have gotten the contract wrong again.”
“YOU THINK?!!!”

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>>13807716
There is literally no such thing as a left-wing chad, and there cannot be.

>> No.13810751

FUCK. So this Fantasy book I'm trying to find basically had the plot of a world where good triumphs over evil and there's been a cabal of druids attempting to remake balance over the world as if good finally defeats evil the world itself will evaporate, so they gather a load of thieves and the last remnants of demons to undergo these trials and essentially rebirth a shitload of demonic energy to balance out the goodness of the world
I CAN'T FUCKING FIND IT THOUGH

>> No.13810758

>>13810751
Sounds terrible and you ought to give up looking for it.

>> No.13810765

>>13810749
>there cannot be.
Why?

>> No.13810768

>>13804996
Bumping this.

>> No.13810773

>>13810758
balance is needed in the world

>> No.13810781

>>13810773
There really doesn't need to be that sort of balance.

>> No.13810787

>The Last Light of the Sun by GGK
>The novel is set in the same world as Kay's The Lions of Al-Rassan and The Sarantine Mosaic, taking place at an indeterminate time. A passing reference to the mosaic Crispin created at the end of The Sarantine Mosaic and to the works of Rustem implies that decades or perhaps centuries have passed. A conversation about Leontes' time on the throne puts The Last Light of the Sun roughly three hundred years afterwards. Asharite merchants from Al-Rassan, and references to the Khalifate of Al-Rassan in the description of Firaz ibn Bakir, put this book chronologically either before or during the events of The Lions of Al-Rassan. [wiki]

How connected are they really? I bought the book above at the thrift store and I want to read it. Does it matter if I haven't read any other GGK?

>> No.13810859

>>13800569
The Blade Itself was ok, everything after that was trash and his stand alones are fucking awful

>> No.13810876

I just finished Codex Alera and couldn't help but feel that the ending was lackluster.

>> No.13810914

>>13810876
Kinda. Left the door open for a sequel

>> No.13810926

>>13810639
Where do you think you are, you dino faggot. Stop praising dusty tomes and embrace the contemporary.

>> No.13810932

>>13807716
>anarcho gommie
>wears jewelry in his ears
>"abolish property... b-b-but buy my book first please"
>shaves head to hide balding
>physiognomy around the eyes reveals mental instability (look at the whites)
>lights himself from above to look more cut
Ok

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>>13810932
Look at his neck... what the fuck is that??!!

>> No.13810954

>>13810926

Just because I think that's a good list of pre-Tolkien fantasy doesn't mean I don't read and like modern works too.
You don't have to pretend to be salty just to fit in on 4chan, you know.

>> No.13811003

Does star wars have anything like the eisenhorn trilogy from 40k? Not real big into either universe but I read eisenhorn and enjoyed it.

>> No.13811017

>>13810742
Wow that's bad.

>> No.13811023

>>13810765
Cuz being a leftie implies being a pussy nigga.

>> No.13811027

>>13810751
Villains by Necessity by Eve Forward

>> No.13811033

>>13811023
Oh, so it's identity politics again. Good to know.

>> No.13811048

>>13811033
See now you're being a pussy.

>> No.13811057

>>13810951
What the fuck is that bro?!

>> No.13811064

>>13800569
Read the first trilogy but didn't touch the stand alones. 1 and 2 were cool but 3 was shit IMO

>> No.13811068

>>13811048
How so?

>> No.13811069

>prequel
is there a worse meme than this

>> No.13811078

>>13811069
What about sidequels or "the same story told again from a different viewpoint character"?

>> No.13811079

>>13811068
Bro I don't know what to tell you if you can't figure it out bro.

>>13811069
Remakes?

>> No.13811087

>>13811057
that's a tuner or something

>> No.13811091

>>13811087
"We're seeing some shit we ain't nevah seen befoah kid"!

>> No.13811094

>>13804625
Paul was such a pleb. He could have had all three.

>> No.13811096

>>13811079
How convenient.

>> No.13811098

>>13811068
not him but you do kind of seem like a fag with your meaningless passive aggressive replies 'why?', 'good to know!', etc
hope this helps

>> No.13811103

>>13811096
Bro now you're being the worst kind of pussy bro.
The passive-aggressive one.
You're so deep in you can't see the light bro.

>> No.13811104

>>13811078
old man's war did this with Zoe's Tale. it was awful

>> No.13811110

>>13802850
>>13802878
>>13802893
I started liking Shallan's chapers after some time but Shallan is really annoying a lot of the time. Especially in Oathbringer. It's a shame especially because as the other anon stated Sanderson has often written decent female characters

>> No.13811115

>>13811098
>>13811103
Cheers!

>> No.13811133

to whomever recommended poor man's fight: you were right, this was definitely the kind of book i was looking for, stylewise but the adolescent politics are just too much and too cringe for me. i'm no corporatist or capitalist but this is just embarrassing. can't believe an adult man wrote this

>> No.13811134

Recently been trying to get into the Malazan Book of the Fallen series however I find Gardens of the Moon really hard to read somehow. Feels like it's all over the place and most of the time something is introduced with no explanation or guidelines whatsoever. I'm not sure if I phrased that correctly but idk it's really hard for me to read at times and I'm only 40% in.

Anyone else had problems with those books and does it 'get better'?

>> No.13811144

>>13811134
Are you to the new to these threads?
This is by far the most common response.
I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't an accurate composite of all posts made about it.

>> No.13811150

>>13811144
*wasn't should be was

>> No.13811163

>>13811134
i had no problems, aside from being bored and finding the dialogue and characters really dull. i'd say it doesn't get better and i'm sorry i wasted all that time reading the whole series. don't ask me why i did it, i couldn't tell you.
taht said, book 2 is unironically good and it's the highlight of the series for me. i'd at least read that, assuming you make it that far

>> No.13811175

>>13811163
>i'm sorry i wasted all that time reading the whole series
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

>> No.13811189

>>13811144
actually yeah I'm not browsing /lit/ all too much and I only recently started reading fantasy books (again). I've been hearing a lot about the series though and I was wondering if I was just too thick for it.

>>13811163
I'll keep reading but I agree with your take on the characters and dialogue. Hard to quit a series of books once you're invested in it unless it's really terrible imo

>> No.13811235

>>13811189
alright. fair warning: at first the second book will seem pretty much just as dull and confusing as the first one, but as it progresses, you will find yourself being drawn in

>> No.13811398

>>13811017
Replying to yourself.

>> No.13811416

>>13809265

Forever war sucked so much dick.
Lukewarm battlescenes, hippy STD fuckrosters and muh weed blocked me from cooming even in the slightest

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Are there any middle eastern inspired fantasy?
>inb4 dune

>> No.13811454

>>13811430
there's arabian nights

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>>13811134

This whole series is unreadable.

Currently reading about some half monkey character called "mappo" (seriously who thinks of such shit) and his faggot boyfriend "Icarium" (puked a little as I wrote that out) fight ghost tigers in the dessert or some shit.

Simultanously there"s some skank getting vaginally stretched by a hung prison guard on some mining camp, while she gives food to some handless stumpy boar faggot.

Elsewhere there's some fags on a boat shooting at ghost whales. The ghost whale talks to them, says he is james bond or some shit and now they seen him he gotta eat them. Then he eats a magic grenade and the ghost whale explodes.

Umm.. there are .. uh.. people in a place called seven cities and uh... they are opressed I suppose. There are a few characters here and they all kinda blend together. I think one guy knowlingly ate dogmeat which is quite dispicable.

Meanwhile, mappo enters in a library where he discusses lewd nun stories with his homo interacial boyfriend and some hermit fag, which is where I am now

Whats the point of this story?

>> No.13811473

>>13811460
To trigger your delicate snowflake sensibilities.

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>>13805769
Interesting. I never thought of this added benefit to the proliferation of audiobooks. I guess the same can be said for long form podcasts and their popularity, if nothing at all, we may see an increase in listening skills.

Nice, got me some optimism before bedtime.

>> No.13811489

>>13811477
People would have to care about what others have to say first.

>> No.13811683

Seems like this whole thread is just shitting on everything. Do you people actually like books?

>> No.13811775

>>13811430
Yes, but I can't really remember the name. I specially can't tell if they were any good.

>> No.13811789

>>13811683
Books are for nerds dude, grow up

>> No.13811811

>>13807528
>Now the sequel he wrote is more the result of his loss of faith and disaffection with the church, and you can definitely tell that too.
He didn't write the sequel, the narrative that Miller simply finished a near-complete script is complete fiction invented by Bisson, he utilized the decade old 60 page draft acquired from Random House.

>> No.13811828

Is Ball Lightning by Liu Cixin good? I finished the trilogy of Three bodies and I want to read more of him.

>> No.13811833

>>13811683
There isn't much to be positive about.

>> No.13811836

Anyone read Clariel and Goldenhand in the Old Kingdom series by Garth Nix? I never actually got around to them.

>> No.13811838

>>13809265

I actually was fine with it, I was actually talking about the dates. The author wanted people who fought in Vietnam to be able to fight in this future war, so we jump from Nam to interstellar combat in a few decades.

>> No.13811896

>>13811069
No need to be mean just because Kazerad doesn't know what an update is.

>> No.13811913

>>13811104
I skipped that whole book. I'm glad it wasn't any good.

>> No.13812073

THREAD SLUT

>> No.13812231

What's your favourite urban fantasy book or series?

>> No.13812233
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>>13811430
Pic related

>> No.13812235

>>13811460
>conanfag calling other works unreadable

>> No.13812245

>>13811836
I did, a long time ago though. I remember that I liked them, though not as much as the first one though, Sabriel was better.

>> No.13812263

>>13812235
Nice try, bugman.

>> No.13812270

>>13812245
>a long time ago
Goldenhand only came out in 2016.

>> No.13812283

>>13807562
It's good. There's a surprising amount of action and one really good battle scene. It's a lot less cluttered and straightforward than Canticle with just a pinch of magical realism. Canticle was too dense for and some of the symbolism and religious meaning was lost to me, but I quite enjoyed the sequel. The last fifth has an abrupt tonal shift which is where the co-writer finished Miller's manuscript.

>> No.13812292

>>13812231
The Hollows Series.

>> No.13812310

>>13811430
The Gandalara Cycle is what you seek

>> No.13812334

>>13812270
Got it confused with the others, rhyming main character names. Nope, never read them, summaries seem interesting.

>> No.13812383

>>13812334
Ah, ok. Yeah, I read the original trilogy and the Creature in the Case novella as well. Just haven't read the newest two.

>> No.13812464

>>13811828
The Redemption of Time (Three Body X: Aeon of Contemplation)

The first book by Baoshu, an unauthorized fan sequel of Liu Cixin's Hugo Award winning SF epic Three Body Problem, intersected with dōjinshi and young-adult fictional experience which evokes a lot of disagreement and discussion on the internet since its unroyalty and adult elements such as Japanese AV actress. It was later regularized with the permission of Cixin Liu, the author of Remembrance of Earth's Past of which this is a fan fiction to, and original trilogy publisher Chongqing Press. Published by Chongqing Press in June 2011; published in English as The Redemption of Time by Tor Books in July 2019.[2]

>> No.13812498

Rec me something with non shit romance

>> No.13812604

What are some sci-fi stories or series (may work better as a series) that present very abstract, esoteric concepts not normally featured in traditional works?
tl;dr where do I find the weird shit

>> No.13812609

>>13812604
do you mean stuff like city at the end of time, the great divorce and the god engines?

>> No.13812617

>>13812609
never read those but i can give a few examples
>lot of concepts presented by PKD
>manipulation of physics like some Reynolds/Baxter/Egan works
haven't read 3 body problem but from lurking, it seems like it gets freaky at times

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>>13810932
>h-he's not a ch-chad, h-he's using lighting to make himself look good

>> No.13812756

A proxy cannot determine the quality of that which it purports to represent.

>> No.13812843

thread please

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