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Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:05:34 2019 No.13785701 [DELETED]

>Have multiple wagie friends who are in the top 10% of earners in the UK
>They all describe their lives as miserable, never ending drudgery with no point or meaning they can discern
>Some of them got wives and kids thinking it would help but after the novelty wore off they were even more miserable
>They have plenty of money, work 9 to 5 and go on holiday 3 times a year
>Still dissatisfied with life
I know some autistic little queer is already typing up his "W-Well your personal experiences don't prove anything NYEEEEEE WHERE'S YOUR PEER REVIEWED STUDY NYEEEEE?!?!" reply.

Society and civilisation is not the answer so stop looking for it there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:08:01 2019 No.13785706 >>13785701 Is some lucky group getting paid to meme Teddy? If so, I want in. The anarch sees the uniform as motley.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:10:05 2019 No.13785714 >>13785701 >being in the top 10% doesn't make you happy >therefore we should tear down human civilization Brilliant reasoning OP, you made me a anarcho-primitivism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:13:29 2019 No.13785721 >>13785714 If the people in the top 10% aren't content with their lives, no one is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:14:51 2019 No.13785723 neetcore is the only answer. a parasite is valuable in the eyes of god. that's why he made so many of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:26:22 2019 No.13785747 >>13785701 What salary is top 10% now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:29:14 2019 No.13785755 >>13785721 I am not in the 10% and I am happy. Your reasoning is inherently flawed.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:35:07 2019 No.13785768

>>13785721
Only a naive of uneducated person would believe the people have the top have to be happier than most. On the contrary, getting to the top implies either obligations or ambitions, as well as competition and anxiety about status loss, all things which are detrimental to happiness no matter the material conditions.

If there is a "financial soft spot" for happiness (dubious but let's assume for argument' sake) it's probably somewhere between 1.5 and 3 times the median income, depending on the conditions of living in your countries. Below that lack of money implies significant losses in living standards, above that status, ambition, competition, guilt and envy inevitably start to kick in.

Also note how everyone in OP's examples is still wagecucking, not using their wealth to live frugally but freely. There are people out there who spend their lifes traveling and enjoying themselves despite not even being that rich.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:45:44 2019 No.13785787 >>13785768 >1.5 and 3 times the median income >thinking in terms of income rather than wealth never gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:47:34 2019 No.13785797 >>13785768 They have more money, better working hours and more holiday days than people in the 90%. Their jobs don't matter and they know it, they know the work the do is worthless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:48:36 2019 No.13785800 They probably work longer hours than most people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:48:39 2019 No.13785801 >>13785768 >traveling meme Traveling is just "ok". It's not this mind awakening experience you delusional 3rd worlders pretend it is. I know you're poor and full of hope but it's just as bad up here as it is down there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:49:40 2019 No.13785803 >>13785800 They don't. They struggle to find work to occupy their time. They're contracted for 9 to 5 but they really only have 3 hours of work a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:49:42 2019 No.13785805 >>13785787 My argument is pretty much that your wealth isn't gonna save you.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:50:40 2019 No.13785809

>>13785768
>Also note how everyone in OP's examples is still wagecucking, not using their wealth to live frugally but freely
Stop shilling this stupid shit.

You retards will not retire by 30. You won't. You think you're smart but you're not, you're just living in fantasy land.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:51:12 2019 No.13785810

>>13785797
>They have more money, better working hours and more holiday days than people in the 90%
Only to people in the 90% who are wagecucks. As for "better working hours", allow me to doubt it. Moving up the remuneration ladder almost always involve greater responsabilities and longer hours.

>Their jobs don't matter and they know it
Is that supposed to help their happiness?

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:51:15 2019 No.13785812
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>>13785701
I’m not looking forward to graduating. I’m 30 and I have a very easy council customer service job that pays about £24k full-time inc unsocial pay, which is enough for me. I took a year out of uni and asked for a shift pattern meaning I only work four days a week (still forty hours) and get Wednesday to Friday off, allowing me to go out and do open mics, get nice midweek lunch deals at restaurants, visit museums when they’re quiet etc. It’s great.

I don’t take the work home with me and when it’s quiet at work I can fuck about on my phone, browse the web or read a book or whatever and nobody gives a shit. My colleagues are all sound as fuck, it’s a nice little team. Sometimes I even have the time to write songs and poems at work.

I’m about to enter fourth year of quantity surveying at uni and go back part-time at work, obviously everyone is expecting me to go on to work as a QS or some other construction professional. I’ll lose all this free time and my simple, happy lifestyle.

I might just bite the bullet and do fuck all with my degree even though I am probably going to get a first and my parents will fucking hate me for it. Yeah, sadly I do still give a shit what they think even though I am thirty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:51:43 2019 No.13785814 >>13785805 And neither will being a hippy bumming around the world

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:53:49 2019 No.13785820

>>13785810
>allow me to doubt it
They're my friends retard, they have no reason to lie about how bored they are at work.
>Moving up the remuneration ladder almost always involve greater responsabilities and longer hours.
Wrong. In real companies the higher up you go the less there is for you to really do. They're all bored as fuck all day because they're not given enough work to occupy them 9 to 5.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:54:16 2019 No.13785821

>>13785801
>Traveling is just "ok". It's not this mind awakening experience you delusional 3rd worlders pretend it is.
I live in the first world and I never said it was mind awakening. I just argued it is better than wagecucking. Learn to engage with what you read instead of replacing it with whatever meme argument you're most used to deal with.

> I know you're poor
I make more than the median income in one of the 10 richest countries in the world, that almost the definition of not poor.

>it's just as bad up here as it is down there
I'm not sure what you're on about here. You seem to be working with plenty of unwarranted assumption. Again, actually read my post, it's not that hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 04:54:21 2019 No.13785822 File: 182 KB, 990x1262, serveimage(13).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13785701 Welcome to fucking capitalism: Where all revolves around hoarding wealth, and happiness doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:02:43 2019 No.13785846 >>13785701 >Some people are unhappy. Have you considered the idea that some people are ALWAYS going to be miserable, regardless of their situation. It's a matter of chemicals in the brain and it's determined at birth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:04:35 2019 No.13785855 >>13785846 My mum warned me after meeting my now ex-girlfriend a few times that “she’s someone who is never going to be happy in this life”. I wish I had fucking listened to her, I could have saved myself years of mental anguish.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:07:00 2019 No.13785861

>>13785821
>I just argued it is better than wagecucking
So is ANYTHING. What's your obsession with travel?
>Learn to engage with what you read
Then stop spouting basic bitch shit like "dude travel lmao" "dude everyone on big money is worked to death lmao". You clearly have zero idea what people on big money actually do.
>Only a naive of uneducated person would believe the people have the top have to be happier than most. On the contrary, getting to the top implies either obligations or ambitions, as well as competition and anxiety about status loss, all things which are detrimental to happiness no matter the material conditions.
Wrong.

Life isn't like your movies. Getting to the top is about cronyism and making other people money. Hard work doesn't factor into it. Long hours doesn't factor into it. My friends got to where they are today by being autists who completed work accurately and fast and whenever they wanted a raise they did interviews with other companies and threatened to leave when they got an offer. They either got a raise or just went to the new company.

One of my friends finished college at 23 and went into an unpaid internship, 6 years later he's on £75,000 a year plus benefits. He literally does nothing all day, the company he works for is so huge and profit rich that most people there just drag 1 hour of work out into 8 hours every day. There's nothing for them to do. Only the brainlets find it overbearing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:08:03 2019 No.13785865 >>13785846 Yes, optimists brains block out negative memories and input. That's why they're always so full of positivity.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:09:05 2019 No.13785872

>>13785809
>Stop shilling this stupid shit.
I'm not shilling anything, read again. And people who live without wage are a thing, whatever you think about it.

>You retards will not retire by 30.
This has nothing to do with me. Are you unable to argue a point without personally relating it to the one making it?
I swear sometimes I wonder where the reading comprehension in this board went. People on /lit/ were never that bright but they could at least not seriously misread a simple ten lines post.

>>13785820
>They're my friends retard
Ah, sorry, I assumed you were not the OP.
>Wrong. In real companies the higher up you go the less there is for you to really do.
We must not have met people working in the same "real companies" then. I know people who have worked for one of the world's top 5 carmakers, for some of the world's top 10 fashion and cosmetics companies, for some of the world's biggest insurers, as well as for state-owned company responsible of critical assets like nuclear reactors. The actual work to do is very variable depending on the sector, the season, the task and the company culture, but more responsibilities and more presence hours (if not actual "hardwork" hours) are almost always expected. I even know people who turned down potential promotion because they knew it would mean more work and of a less interesting nature.

>They're all bored as fuck all day because they're not given enough work to occupy them 9 to 5.
Hven't heard of many executives who can come at 9 and leave at 5 every day without being looked at funny. But again, it depends on comany culture.

>>13785814
Very debatable. The few I've met were definitely happier than most wagecucks I know (which is most people I know) but that's just my experience of course.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:13:01 2019 No.13785888

>>13785872
>I know people who have worked for one of the world's top 5 carmakers, for some of the world's top 10 fashion and cosmetics companies, for some of the world's biggest insurers, as well as for state-owned company responsible of critical assets like nuclear reactors.
mmhmm ok buddy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:13:02 2019 No.13785889 >>13785721 I'm pretty content bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:14:15 2019 No.13785895 >>13785872 You're not a tenth as interesting as you think you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:15:16 2019 No.13785900 >>13785889 Exceptions don't invalidate the rule, no one cares about you

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:15:36 2019 No.13785902 >>13785701 Are they religious?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:16:38 2019 No.13785908 File: 31 KB, 450x321, 6162BA2A-4536-4647-8EC5-567AF7D2376F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13785895 Ooh that’s a nice insult, I’m stealing that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:17:47 2019 No.13785911 >>13785701 They allow wifi in supermaxx?

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:28:27 2019 No.13785932

>>13785801
>mind awakening experience you delusional 3rd worlders pretend it is
3rd worlders feel the least need to travel faggot
it's the deluded first worlder on whom the weight of overly materialistic lifestyle lies the most that he feels the need to get out regularly

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:29:23 2019 No.13785933 >>13785797 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0H1VkCYmYY

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:33:25 2019 No.13785943 >>13785821 Stfu delusional porky

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:35:54 2019 No.13785950

>>13785861
>So is ANYTHING.
So you agree with me then. You could have said it in fewer words and without the angry capitals.

>What's your obsession with travel?
What obsession? I mentioned it once in one post as an example, and then you started harping about how it's not that great. You seem to be stuck in an argument that was only made in your mind.

>You clearly have zero idea what people on big money actually do.
I was answering to OP who said they were wagecucking like everyone else. If you have any better insight nobody is preventing you for gracing us peasants with it.
And you not liking my point is not an excuse for being a dumbfuck who can't adress a simple argument. But I guess I'm wasting my time here.

>Life isn't like your movies.
I barely watch any movie. You're still wrestling with a strawman here.

> Getting to the top is about cronyism and making other people money.
For some of them sure, perhaps even more so in the higesht levels, but for the top 10% I doubt that's univerally true.

"People at the top" (again those in OP's argument) include the higher end of law and medecine professional, middle and high ranking executive in a variety of sectors, probably a lot of enginners as well. Do you think all of them are just good at cronyism? Many of them perhaps, but certainly not all, I even doubt it's the majority.

So, your ridiculous burst of anger aside, I see where we disagree.
I think the majority of people in, say, the top 10% income bracket works a lot, even if their work might be mostly useless, and that they moved up because they thought they would like the work or that they needed it.
You think the majority of those people are just good at cronyism and making people under them work.
We both only have anecdotal evidence (I have seen both kinds actually, but I've seen the hardworking type more often even at the 70k+ a year level, and there are also doctors and similar professions).
Wasn't really worth getting that worked up honestly, and you will concede me that we're talking about a relatively huge population still, so there's bound to be a lot of variations.

>There's nothing for them to do. Only the brainlets find it overbearing.
Well the friends of OP seem to not like it. You could say they're probably brainlets and I'd agree. Anyway that doesn't change my argument about happiness, the top 10% have little reason to be necessarily happier than the rest. "Nothing to do" for most of the day doesn't seem great for happiness,you get used to the money, competition, envy, guilt, status anxiety and the like might still be into play (to variable extent depending on personal character). Personal relationship are going to be pretty similar or worse than for the average blokes.

I give you that I have probably overstated the role of work for wealthy people (though not for all of them). Still I maintain you'd be naive to expect them to be much happier than the average. Feel free to point to evidence of the contrary.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:41:31 2019 No.13785963

>>13785888
Those companies employ buttloads of people, it's not that hard to meet one, even the middle-to-high managment ones are pretty common. And I'm doing a PhD in stats, I have a lot of former classmates for went for juicy corporate jobs after their masters.
>>13785895
Funny how almost any discussion on /lit/ has to end like this. A good old "fuck you, I disagree" would be more honest.

>>13785943
Okay that one is funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:42:35 2019 No.13785967 God damn it, I wish I could be a NEET but I'm to old scrupulous to leech off my mother, especially with the way I've treated her growing up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:43:36 2019 No.13785971 >>13785967 Too scrupulous *

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:45:24 2019 No.13785976 >>13785801 >he can't into travelling You have no soul mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:45:43 2019 No.13785979 >>13785963 >I'm doing a PhD in stats So you've never worked and are just talking out your fucking arse. Glad we cleared that up you fucking child.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:46:31 2019 No.13785981 >>13785976 Yeah, I travelled solo for the first time a few months ago, spent three weeks in Japan. It was absolutely brilliant, I couldn’t recommend it more highly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:47:29 2019 No.13785987 >>13785967 so save up money and leech off yourself >>13785976 intuitives don't get as much out of traveling as sensors

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 07:07:52 2019 No.13786215 >>13785701 >Some of them got wives and kids They don't sound like they deserve these things, honestly. How does someone get this far and be that retardedly nihilistic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 12:39:55 2019 No.13787733 >>13785701 I know wealthy people who spend every non-working moment of their lives doing fulfilling stuff and they enjoy being alive.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 12:47:04 2019 No.13787772

>>13785701
If you're rich and you're not spending your non working time doing the sickest possible shit you're a waste of wealth.

My idea of the good life require very little wealth, just a conscious effort to pursue what makes life enjoyable. I would only aim at being a top 10% richfag if I needed cocaine, constant travelling, and to race sportscars in order to feel that I'm living a good life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 12:48:36 2019 No.13787786 >>13785747 this please?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:03:49 2019 No.13787876 >>13787786 >>13785747 In UK top 10% is £53k before tax. Not much if you live in London as OP's friends probably do

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:06:12 2019 No.13787889 >>13785701 Tell them to study evolutionary biology, it’s easy to understand with very little background knowledge and it’ll make them more invested in their kids and thus in their lives

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:06:22 2019 No.13787890 >>13785723 Based but bluepilled.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:15:42 2019 No.13787955 >>13787889 USD 65 k dollars per year? >>13787889 Or maybe they'll want to take their kids out of the gene pool. lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:26:18 2019 No.13788019 >>13787955 >Or maybe they'll want to take their kids out of the gene pool. lmao Probably wouldn’t, instinct to survive is too strong usually, unless they have genetic diseases

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:41:01 2019 No.13788080

Don’t underestimate the godsend that is the Internet. Work yourself into a role, any role, that is relatively low-effort and can be done remotely. After a year or two of working on-site, negotiate for a couple WFH days a week and increased vacation time as opposed to a raise. Never accept higher pay for a lesser freedom. Follow this pattern until you’re near fully remote and indispensable to the company. This is entirely doable already but will become more common as it cuts costs on office space for employers. Tech and sales are good fields for this. Avoid medicine, finance and law like the plague. The Internet gives so much power to the people. Use it and you will be free, with an income.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 14:13:33 2019 No.13788245 >>13787772 This is the brain of a stimulation addict, makes me sick

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 16:36:16 2019 No.13788864 >>13788080 A lot of time it's even easier than this, I got a fully remote job with three weeks vacation, benefits, and great career progression straight out of college in a field I had no experience in. Feels good. Good pay too.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:53:10 2019 No.13789455

>>13788864
Nice man. There’s a lot of soul-destroying work out there, in fact I’d estimate 95%+ of modern office work qualifies as such, so good for you for avoiding it early. It brings me joy to hear of another anon escaping the sinister corporate timesink that is most’s reality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:48:57 2019 No.13789731 >>13785721 I'm fairly internally stable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 00:42:34 2019 No.13791033 >>13785812 is that john prine based

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 00:48:22 2019 No.13791057 >>13785721 >earnings is the only dimension for quality of life and happiness

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 00:49:27 2019 No.13791061 >>13785701 This. You can be the same in pleasure and pain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 00:52:48 2019 No.13791077 >>13785706 Seconding this, how do you unironically get paid to be a shill? I browse so much anyway I might as well get paid.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:17:28 2019 No.13791154 >>13785701 all athiests of course

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:36:09 2019 No.13791210 >>13785755 Proof?

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:52:11 2019 No.13791258

He's fucking retarded. Even if you live off the grid capital is going to find you and fuck up your shit sooner or later. There's literally no way an amprim revolution is ever going to happen, even an unironic communist revolution is more likely so you might as well just become a marxist. The only point where his ideas might become useful is if the world gets nuked but you'd have to be a fucking edgelord to actually want that to happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:00:33 2019 No.13791291 >>13791258 Collapse is comin bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:07:24 2019 No.13791316 >>13791258 1,000 years from now Teddy will be prescient. We still have a couple centuries of limping though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:14:49 2019 No.13791341 >>13791258 lmao tell me if it's non-viable after nuclear armageddon

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:25:16 2019 No.13791368
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>>13785701
>Its a thread of some fag trying to cope with not being successful in his studies and career.
>"Burh my top 10% friends are depressed"
>"Society and civilisation is not the answer bro"
Atleast try to come up with better excuses man

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:29:41 2019 No.13791375

>>13785768
Deaton & Kahneman did a study and found that people's life satisfaction correlated with income, but that after $75k/yr people's emotional well-being (i.e. happiness) did not.

i.e. money correlated with happiness up to an income of 75k a year and made no difference thereafter

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:43:29 2019 No.13791405 >>13791368 >Its a thread of some fag trying to cope with not being successful in his studies and career I never studied anything or tried to pursue a career in the first place so checkmate, you butthurt retard.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:50:30 2019 No.13791426

>>13785979
I never said I had worked. I said I knew people who did. And my PhD is under a joint agreement with a big company, so I'm actually an employee on their payroll.

Your answer is pretty typical of the brainletism on /lit/ btw. Aggressively adressing a point that wasn't made, and that relate to the poster and not the argument, to give yourself an occasion to be "btfo" someone when you don't even understand what is being said. Getting so drunk on your own angry, baseless self-righteousness you start mistaking every argument for a shitflinging contest.
"Glad we cleared that up", you haven't cleared up shit, you tried to refute a nonexistent, irrelevant point and you failed. I would call you a fucking homo but those people actually benefit from what they do, what do you get from being on /lit/ and barely being able to read?

>>13787772
You would have trouble regularly getting those things with a top 10% income anyay. Those are more 1% things.

>>13788080
This seems a pretty sound strategy actually.

>>13791375
So that would be around 2,5 times the median US wage in 2019 (but closer to 5 or 6 times when the study was done I guess)? I wouldn't have guessed the threshold but the general conclusion doesn't suprise me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:52:27 2019 No.13791430 File: 1.99 MB, 300x225, 1500419526770.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13791405 >I never studied anything or tried to pursue a career in the first place >so checkmate ahahahahhaha

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:55:37 2019 No.13791443 >>13791405 So this is the power of the autodidact t. Stemfag

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:56:50 2019 No.13791446 >>13785803 Can they play games at work? Do they have table tennis or minigolf there? Because if yes, that sounds comfy af.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:01:16 2019 No.13791462 >>13791430 >>13791443 I study at home, for free, uninfluenced by University system more concerned with feelings than facts. If you want to get into debt, go ahead, I choose knowledge and wisdom.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:02:58 2019 No.13791467

>>13791446
No and no.

They're watched at all times and even the ones who complain about having no work are given empty promises of "oh just stick around we've got this and this coming up" and it never materialises. Their bosses complain if they go on their phones too much too, despite the fact it's essential for their work.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:13:48 2019 No.13791484

>>13791467
Sounds like the job you want to quit once you've gathered enough spare cash. Also the kind of job that makes you feel like shit not matter how much you make. Having shitty bosses is one of the worst thing in the workplace, it can really fuck up you mental health. In those cases it's often better to quit even a financially advantageous situation before you get wrecked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:15:33 2019 No.13791487 >>13785701 >Society and civilisation is not the answer so stop looking for it there. You lost me there Eurocuck. Society with less work and more play time is the answer, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:20:02 2019 No.13791497 >>13791487 >Society with less work and more play time is the answer, obviously. I'm a NEET for the past 12 years. I do 0 work and play whatever I feel like. I'm better off than my wagie friends but not by much and still dissatisfied with life.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:26:47 2019 No.13791518

>>13785721
I'm in the top 3% and I'm pretty happy. Not having to worry about working because my money just makes me more money. The only problem is all the women I'm attracted to have to work and are generally chasing material meaning. Other than that I generally enjoy society.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:27:51 2019 No.13791525 >>13791518 Stop responding to me with your personal opinions. I don't care, it doesn't prove anything. The majority of 10%ers are miserable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:38:54 2019 No.13791555 >>13791497 >I'm a NEET for the past 12 years. How bro, tell me the secret.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:44:47 2019 No.13791578 >>13791555 Leeching off relatives and the government with unemployment benefit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 03:53:41 2019 No.13791605 >>13791578 Which country? did they give you neetbux for 12years without any question? Here we have to show that we are actively looking for job to get any welfare.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 07:19:49 2019 No.13792133
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It's irrelevant how much they make if they don't have a clear idea on what to do with their money. Having a job and kids does not mean you are immune to stagnation and boredom. You can still end up as depressed as a neet or as miserable as a wagecuck if you don't have that goal in sights.

Having said that I must admit I am still looking for a solid personal goal myself. It's an everyday struggle, and it doesn't get easier with age.

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