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>wanted to learn french
>singed up for it at local college
>first class
>teachers says vous = you'all
>mfw

>> No.13776164

>lmao white people being niggers and yall! they totally didn't steal it from us! stupid whites!

>> No.13776181
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>>13776112
>wanted to learn french
>singed up for it at local college
>first class
>teacher says vous = thou
>mfw

>> No.13776187

There are so many resources to learn independently now, I'm wondering why you are going to a class? Unless you want to meet other people it's not worth it desu

>> No.13776219

>>13776112
i always see people talking about taking courses at colleges. how do you actually do this? do you have to be enrolled or is it just a night school type thing?

>> No.13776234

>>13776112
You fool. It is “you’all.” Vous is a formal and a plural “you,” depending on context. Perhaps if you listened instead of incorrectly assuming you speak more French than your teacher, you would know this as well. And if the teacher actually said “y’all” instead of “you’all,” than it was probably to accommodate the demographic, for whom terms like “plural” may be difficult. Evidently you fall into this category, you insolent worm.

>> No.13776240

>>13776234
Holy shit you're retarded

>> No.13776254

>>13776234
My Latin teacher explained the plural accusative or w/e as y’all

>> No.13776259

>>13776234
i learned that shit in middle school. you're not intelligent for knowing what vous means, you're a pseud. it does not mean "y'all" either.

>> No.13776283

>>13776219
if you're enrolled you can usually just take the class for free, if you're not enrolled you usually have to sign up and pay for the courses, costs depend on the college but they're usually cheaper than other places.

>> No.13776291

>>13776259
I'm not even that guy but it expicitly fucking does. It can mean a formal singular you too, but when you address a group, proper French uses "vous."

>> No.13776311

>>13776112
>want to learn French
>can barely grasp English
this was your first mistake OP

>> No.13776316

>>13776283
so do you just take the course with the college students who actually are enrolled, or is there a separate class?

>> No.13776328

>>13776291
no it does not. you singular and you plural are two different words, and y'all is different from you plural.

>> No.13776335

>>13776328
Y’all is you plural, it is never used as the royal you if that’s what you’re implying

>> No.13776343

Actual native french speaker here to solve this thread. >>13776234 is right.

Vous can have two meanings. Plural you, and a polite form of singular you if you speak to someone older than you or to a stranger in a formal setting (customer in a shop, etc.)

>> No.13776347

>>13776335
exactly, it doesn't have the dual meaning that vous does, therefore it is not the equivalent of vous.

>> No.13776349

>>13776112
true literature

>> No.13776351

>>13776234
But "you" is already plural.

>> No.13776353

>>13776187
I'm teaching myself French already. I just thought it would be a good idea to practice it in a classroom.

>> No.13776356

>>13776234
>And if the teacher actually said “y’all” instead of “you’all,” than it was probably to accommodate the demographic, for whom terms like “plural” may be difficult.
The absolute state of America TOP KEKS

>> No.13776361

>>13776343
Op here, already know this, but as >>13776351 already said it you is plural and singular.

>> No.13776362

>>13776187
to show off that they're "intellectuals"
meanwhile actual intellectuals just autodidact for free in the comfort of their own home.

>> No.13776365

doesnt vous mean both ye and thou or you and you (all)?

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>>13776112
>you'all
bloody Americans, mate lol they can't even speak English yet they attempt to learn French

>> No.13776378

>>13776365
Yes it does, but my point is that it's retarded to use you all as a why to teach.

>> No.13776428

What a shit fucking thread. You will never learn a language with this picky attitude. Its not about finding the perfect method/teacher for your special self, its about continuously learning from multiple sources and not whining while you could be studying. There is no need to rush but there is no need to come up with excuses either.

>> No.13776435

>>13776378
i think what is retarded is modern english

>> No.13776445

>blabla guys i know the actual origin/meaning of english "you" even though nobody gives a shit anymore in modern day
>look at dumb that french teacher was for not hinting at this irrelevant bit of english information

>> No.13776459

>>13776187
A classroom setting allows for discussion and immediate feedback which is pretty important for learning a language

>> No.13776470

>>13776316
when i took french classes it was just one group with some arthoes, some economics students, some 3 geezers and a couple of bored housewives

>> No.13776472

>>13776378
How else do you explain English's lack of second person plurals without referencing another language? I agree we should never have stopped teaching Latin and Greek as mandatory subjects to schoolchildren, but that's Progressivism for you.

>> No.13776480

It's impossible to learn a language except through thousands of hours of comprehensible and compelling input.
A classroom environment may never replicate this unless it's literally just watching films and reading novels with a dictionary at hand, no tests or assignments of any sort given.

>> No.13776529

>>13776472
If you want kids to learn Greek & Latin, you should translate or write pornographic comics and gangsta video games in/onto them instead of expecting them to memorize conjugation tables.
Do you think the ancient Greeks or people subjugated under them learnt how to understand and speak by consciously having to recall the accusative or dative declension of a certain noun?

>> No.13776563

I'm using both ''Easy French Step-by-Step'' by Myrna Bell Rochester and ''The Ultimate French Review and Practice'' by David Stillman and Ronni Gordon to teach myself French.

Does anyone know if they are good books? Recommend me other ones if not.

>> No.13776575

>>13776563
t. nigga keeping himself in the dark by not taking the massive input pill

>> No.13776867

>>13776112
>german class
>ihr = y'all
Do Englishmen have a word meaning you all? We do. It's "You."

>Y'all should go on
>You kids/guys/people should go on

>> No.13777221

>>13776361
Not in French, retard. Tu is singular